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When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
cbgnl said:
When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
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Have you put the slider to best performance rather than best battery?
Yes i did
never had the problem with the tytn and wizard.
I only get that on my TyTN II when I'm far away from the router and the signal strength is low. If you've already set the performance vs battery life slider to give maximum performance as suggested by kareem9nba and it's still behaving as reported, what happens when you're near to the router?
If it's just that your saying the range isn't as good as youve been used to with other devices, I have nothing to compare my TyTN II with as this is my first WiFi capable ppc - but I'm sure other more experienced members here will be able to comment. If you're near to the router where there's no doubt it should be working fine and still getting problems then thats a different matter.
maybe your router needs a restart or maybe its just faulty.
have you tried other devices with same router?
try a wifi sniffer/scanner see what happens (a good example would be PeekPocket)
mospantagruel said:
maybe your router needs a restart or maybe its just faulty.
have you tried other devices with same router?
try a wifi sniffer/scanner see what happens (a good example would be PeekPocket)
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All other devices doenst have the problem output signal is ok but i ll try peekpocket
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I have nothing to compare my TyTN II with
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I do! My Kaiser's performance is on a par with my old HTC Universal, which is to say, they are both terrible at getting a signal. I don't think my Kaiser is faulty as back in the Universal forums, it was often commented how useless the WiFi was in comparison to other machines. I used to have a HP Ipaq 5450 which could get a signal upto approx 20m from my router, my laptop starts struggling at around 50m. The Universal could just about get a signal upto 4m away, the Kaiser is no better.
I realise much of this is due router location and the fact that I was trying to get WiFi in my garage, but in my bedroom with a full signal on the laptop, the HTC devices struggle to get more than 1 bar and if I move 10cm further away from the router the signal goes completely.
I think the WiFi on the Universal and the Kaiser just isn't that powerful. I guess it's Maximum Performance setting is still quite low power in order to save battery life. Wonder if there is a registry tweek to increase the power to the WiFi card, and if doing that would blow the card?!
Steve-C said:
The Universal could just about get a signal upto 4m away, the Kaiser is no better.
I realise much of this is due router location and the fact that I was trying to get WiFi in my garage, but in my bedroom with a full signal on the laptop, the HTC devices struggle to get more than 1 bar and if I move 10cm further away from the router the signal goes completely.
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I'm using an 11 Mbps Wifi capable router (about 2003 vintage) and even with a wall and a floor between my TyTN II and the router it still works about 15 m away, I've yet to try any further as that'd be outside the house. I was impressed to see it even detected other WiFi sources in the area though. I found that even though the signal quality bar was fluctuating, my web browsing still worked OK. Bumping the slider towards the performance end did make a difference to the signal quality indicator (although it still fluctuated). If your TyTN II is only working up to 4 m from your router then I think there's a fault with either device, you should be getting better than that.
I can connect to my linksys WRT54G when beside the it and 20mt away. Even when beside it the TynII will cycle off (disconnect) and then reconnect again. I thought it was signal strength but I am beginning to think its just a crappy wifi setup on the tyn. I also have my slider on best performance.
Flying Kiwi said:
I'm using an 11 Mbps Wifi capable router (about 2003 vintage)
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Funny that, so am I! However I bought it because it was cheap and I really didn't know much about WiFi etc several years ago when I bought it. I notice many routers come with external antenna's, mine is all internal so I would think that it's more my router isn't that powerful, combined with the Kaiser having a less powerful WiFi set-up that older models. To be fair, the Ipaq had an external antenna (of sorts, a little lump on top) and my previous laptops didn't have built in WiFi, their external WiFi adaptors also had external antenna's.
Frankly I think that all this internalisation of components is having a negative impact on signal strength and range. To compare I have a GSM car kit with an external antenna that picks up a much better signal than a phone on it's own. Likewise my GPS can be connected to an external antenna and I've noticed when connected it will pick up more satalites, with a stronger lock, than when on it's built in antenna. It also picks up more than the Kaiser (internal antenna) or Universal (external bluetooth GPS with internal antenna) ever do.
Still, it all just about works for my needs, so I'm going to leave well alone!
Juzzman said:
I can connect to my linksys WRT54G when beside the it and 20mt away. Even when beside it the TynII will cycle off (disconnect) and then reconnect again. I thought it was signal strength but I am beginning to think its just a crappy wifi setup on the tyn. I also have my slider on best performance.
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i have the same problem... i hope that's a firmware problem....
checked
i checked signal and even did hard reset on kaiser.
i still have full signal and goes to zero all the time
no clue here
eipiklein said:
i have the same problem... i hope that's a firmware problem....
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But does this actually affect your browsing? In the end the signal quality bar can do whatever it wants as long as the data still gets through as far as I'm concerned and for me that’s happening. My hunch is that the reason why the signal quality bar intermittently dips down (even when nearby a router) is associated with power management on the TyTN II (which will still be in place to a certain degree even when the performance vs. battery life slider is fully at the performance end).
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But does this actually affect your browsing? In the end the signal quality bar can do whatever it wants as long as the data still gets through as far as I'm concerned and for me that’s happening. My hunch is that the reason why the signal quality bar intermittently dips down (even when nearby a router) is associated with power management on the TyTN II (which will still be in place to a certain degree even when the performance vs. battery life slider is fully at the performance end).
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really i can't connect to my wifi router, while other hardware can (a laptop for example). it loops from "connecting" to "available" with 5 bars. but nevers connect or never shows an error. i tried open, WEP, WPA, WPA2 with no results... its a compatibility problem of TYTN II with some routers....
i hope that upgrading firmware, this problem dissapear....
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My experience isn't that the signal itself is particlarly poor, but that it can be prone to loose connection regularly if its very weak. Atm I'm sitting some 150m from the accesspoint (quite powerfull transmitter), through a couple of concrete walls and its fast, as in almost so fast as the Kaiser can chew. Livestreaming from Youtube is np etc. The signal is no doubt very poor tho, and I have to use max signal/minimum battery on that bar you can adjust.
What drives me nuts is that it DCs me and often force me to key in the network key randomly every 1 to 20mins or so. I don't know if this is due to weak signal (both my laptop and the kaiser have 1 bar) or config of the wlan/kaiser. The PC dont DC, but its deffo a cranky connection. It almost seems like theres some auto-DC feature somewhere.
On other networks I haven't seen this. Generally I find the Kaiser wlan surprisingly powerfull, albeit it often shows a weak signal I've found this to be very relative and far from always descriptive of real life performance.
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kaiser wifi low signal - wi fi poor reception - wifi disconnecting and reconnecting:
Suffered a lot with my kaiser wifi poor reception. Tested several radio versions and could solve the problem.
Radio version:
1 71 09 01 - too low WIFI reception
1.27.12.11 - disconnecting and turning OFF the WIFI with no automatic reengage of the access point or turning ON the WIFI if coverage is good.
1.65.17.56 is the versione that SOLVED my problem.
This radio was collected from the original HTC shipped rom:
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.exe
In this moment I am running Radio 1.65.17.56 with
ROM jjblaster3 - updated 28014 with good WIFI behaviour.
I need to underline that the reception I have now with the Kaiser, can never reach the sensibility of my Nokia 5530 WIFI or the one I have on my laptop with good antenna embeded in my LCD framem but I am happy now because the WIFI is making sense now.
Best Regards
cbgnl said:
When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
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I'm facing the same problem. WiFi worked fine and one day it was suddenly gone. Tried quite a few radios, including 1.65.17.56 and still no deal.
To elaborate, when WiFi is turned on, the icon never even comes up in the taskbar, and it continues to remain in an off state (when checked in wifi settings) even when it's turned on (in the comm manager).
I'm guessing this could be a hardware problem like a loose contact to the antenna? Anyone heard of such issues?
(On a side note, the phone function never worked either, I always got a "No Service")
I've fixed it! I believe the problem was indeed a loose antenna. I opened up my phone and removed the antenna peice (the plastic plate that also houses the speaker) and pushed up the two pins left of the camera (so that they'll have better contact with the antenna piece. Put everything back and now the WiFi works!
Now if only I can figure out why the cellular doesn't work..
Hey guys, I just increased my overall signal for my htc incredible S to 79dBm.
Now i have 4 bars instead of 2 .
Fix is easy:
You need a strip of foil, scissors and tape.
Now my palm doesn't decrease signal anymore.
I'm just wondering what i can use instead of foil, which one has less resistance.
I know gold and silver does, but hey those are way too expensive .
After getting enough responses, i will rewrite this and add [TUTORIAL] line.
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UPDATED:
I'm using latest radio now, signal still low without attached cover modification, but with it I get significant signal increase.
I post step by step tutorial later! Stay tuned guys.
Is it possible to use this solution for WiFi problems as well?
If you could elaborate on what you actually did?
And what was the problem you had that prompted this?
i don't seem to be having any problem with reception atm...
Since the GB update, which I installed yesterday, I keep loosing my WiFi signal. Before the update I had a good reception. But when I hold the mobile now, the signal drops and then the icon of WiFi disappears.
Also the gsm reception seems to be worse then before.
I'm going to try the solution above and see if it helps.
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Is it possible to use this solution for WiFi problems as well?
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Yes, Wi-Fi antenna is upper.
letmedanz said:
If you could elaborate on what you actually did?
And what was the problem you had that prompted this?
i don't seem to be having any problem with reception atm...
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I brought antenna up from palm location (Otherwise signal decreased dramatically), I'm just thinking what material have better +dBm, Getting +10dBm would be awesome .
Why i made this topic was comparison with my and my friend's phone. He have Nokia Xpressmusic, i have Inc S, and he had 5 of 5, i had 1 out of 4 atm. I try to find out material resistances. Copper wire or alu must be OK.
Gotta go to football match, See ya later!
henrylife said:
Yes, Wi-Fi antenna is upper.
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Going to try it now!
FIX for wifi problems
_Flea_ said:
Since the GB update, which I installed yesterday, I keep loosing my WiFi signal. Before the update I had a good reception. But when I hold the mobile now, the signal drops and then the icon of WiFi disappears.
Also the gsm reception seems to be worse then before.
I'm going to try the solution above and see if it helps.
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For WIFI problems go to
Settings> Wireless & networks > Wi-Fi Settings> Press the menu button > Advanced and then select Best Wi-Fi performance.
Enes_81 said:
For WIFI problems go to
Settings> Wireless & networks > Wi-Fi Settings> Press the menu button > Advanced and then select Best Wi-Fi performance.
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Already tried that. Very bad reception. Keep losing signal. Doesn't reconnect
Looks like it has some kind of deathgrip.
_Flea_ said:
Already tried that. Very bad reception. Keep losing signal. Doesn't reconnect
Looks like it has some kind of deathgrip.
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Try without holding your palm on cover, still poor signal?
And how many metres is your router away, is this forced with 100% output power?`
Try with other devices, if still persists then this may be caused from corrupted Radio.
Hope I helped.
henrylife said:
Try without holding your palm on cover, still poor signal?
And how many metres is your router away, is this forced with 100% output power?`
Try with other devices, if still persists then this may be caused from corrupted Radio.
Hope I helped.
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It's quite a distances to the router.
Is there a possibility to reflash the phone?
Death grip here too. Would appreciate a solution.
Select settings: wireless & networks: mobile networks: gsm and wcdma.
Next select settings: about phone: network.
Hold in hand and see connection drop to 0asu eventually.
incredible s
_Flea_ said:
Since the GB update, which I installed yesterday, I keep loosing my WiFi signal. Before the update I had a good reception. But when I hold the mobile now, the signal drops and then the icon of WiFi disappears.
Also the gsm reception seems to be worse then before.
I'm going to try the solution above and see if it helps.
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The GB update seems to have raised the "signal strength minimum value", so that it shuts down wi-fi at a higher signal strength than on 2.2.
it seems to be part of android 2.3
This should explain why when I tested Incredible S (with 2.2) and the Desire S (with 2.3) side by side, the Desire S dropped the wifi connection while the incredible S held the connection. (I was testing on a network with very poor signal)
Now, as it too got 2.3 - it seems the Incredible S has gotten as "bad" as the desire s.......
I hope many people report this to HTC. I did.
_Flea_ said:
Since the GB update, which I installed yesterday, I keep loosing my WiFi signal. Before the update I had a good reception. But when I hold the mobile now, the signal drops and then the icon of WiFi disappears.
Also the gsm reception seems to be worse then before.
I'm going to try the solution above and see if it helps.
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PLease tell me if it helped.
It looks like the reception is better in the house. So yes it works.
In my bedroom I went from 2 bars to 3 bars.
Could any of you who have the wi-fi issue try this with a different router?
It is possible the router may be faulty, or as already pointed out, the distance may be over what the router covers.
if not, this seems to be quite an issue which will need to be looked into
Ok, I´ve done a hard reset and it seems to be improved.
WiFi signal switches from fair to good and back. So I´m fine with it.
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Could any of you who have the wi-fi issue try this with a different router?
It is possible the router may be faulty, or as already pointed out, the distance may be over what the router covers.
if not, this seems to be quite an issue which will need to be looked into
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No no, before the update, I had connection in my bed. After update - same location - wifi disconnects. Signal strenght seems the same.
It's not the router.....
Guys, we have the same problem with the Desire S (chech the forums) after the 2.3.3 update. It's very likely software related (phone dropping the connect after it's under certain signal value ... viva la HTC update).
Check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061502&page=3
I tried it but it doesn't seem to affect my signal strengt. Signal still changes between 51 dBm and 88 dBm.
better conductor
henrylife said:
Hey guys, I just increased my overall signal for my htc incredible S to 79dBm.
Now i have 4 bars instead of 2 .
Fix is easy:
You need a strip of foil, scissors and tape.
Now my palm doesn't decrease signal anymore.
I'm just wondering what i can use instead of foil, which one has less resistance.
I know gold and silver does, but hey those are way too expensive .
After getting enough responses, i will rewrite this and add [TUTORIAL] line.
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i Believe copper will work much better but its much harder to find in a thin "foil" form
btw i havnt found a design that increases reception yet but if you hold the phone upside down it helps
Is anyone else having an issue where your device will be hooked up to a wifi network, will still indicate you're connected but no data will sync? I email myself and nothing happens. Happens with FB, Email, Gmail, and Voice Controls don't work.
ShamanicEnzan said:
Is anyone else having an issue where your device will be hooked up to a wifi network, will still indicate you're connected but no data will sync? I email myself and nothing happens. Happens with FB, Email, Gmail, and Voice Controls don't work.
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I have that issue with my gNex and my wife's DNA on our home network. I don't think it is necessarily this phone, but I am not convinced (yet) that it is my router, either...
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I have that issue with my gNex and my wife's DNA on our home network. I don't think it is necessarily this phone, but I am not convinced (yet) that it is my router, either...
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It comes and goes, it looks almost app specific. I say Hello Google Now, and it seems to lock up on recognition or says it can't connect to google....but I'm able to browse the internet.
Yeah I've been having a ton of WiFi issues with this phone.
Slusho said:
Yeah I've been having a ton of WiFi issues with this phone.
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I called Moto and after dealing with their terrible level 1 support I got the following:
HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR DOING THE WIPE CACHE PARTITION:
This will remove any temporary files that may be causing the problem, but will not delete your files or settings.
1. With the phone powered off, press the VOL DOWN KEY for 2-3 seconds then POWER key then release.
2. The device will display different BOOT OPTIONS
3. Use the VOL DOWN Key to SCROLL to Recovery and VOL UP Key to select
Tip: If the device reboots, you may have waited to long to make a selection, you will need to begin the process again.
4. The device will display the Motorola logo and then the Android in distress ( logo with Exclamation mark)
5. Press and hold the VOL UP key for 10-15 seconds. While still holding the VOL UP key tap and release the POWER key
Tip: You can try this step, holding the phone in landscape. If you are stuck on step 6, try a force reboot by pressing the Power key and Vol Down key, and start the process again.
6. The device will display additional menu options (Text will appear in BLUE)
7. Use the VOL DOWN Key to scroll to wipe cache partition and the POWER Key to select this option
8. The device will then perform the partition wipe
9. The device will reboot and start the normal power up sequence
Ever since it hasn't had any problems, but it's only been a few hours as well.
The issues started happening again...turned off wifi and everything resynced perfectly...
ShamanicEnzan said:
The issues started happening again...turned off wifi and everything resynced perfectly...
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Have you tried it on a different router?
Sent from my Nexus 7
phositadc said:
Have you tried it on a different router?
Sent from my Nexus 7
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I haven't been able to yet, I'm hoping to at work, but my current router works with my laptop and my old HTC
ShamanicEnzan said:
I haven't been able to yet, I'm hoping to at work, but my current router works with my laptop and my old HTC
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If it doesn't work properly with a different router try exchanging it. Also have you gone into advanced WiFi settings and forced the moto x to 2.4 GHz? If give that a try.
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phositadc said:
If it doesn't work properly with a different router try exchanging it. Also have you gone into advanced WiFi settings and forced the moto x to 2.4 GHz? If give that a try.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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It was set to auto, I set it to 2.4 ghz...now to wait if it happens again.
phositadc said:
If it doesn't work properly with a different router try exchanging it. Also have you gone into advanced WiFi settings and forced the moto x to 2.4 GHz? If give that a try.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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The force to 2.4ghz actually made the problem occur a lot faster, any reason it might be due to the massive amount of wifi networks around? When I set to scan 5 ghz there was only one still open, I might go into my router and see if I can change the atenna settings.
EDIT: Turns out if I go to 5 ghz my computer can't connect, but I changed the channel to something less populated in the area to see if that helps.
DOUBLE EDIT: It appears to occur after I'm supposed to get a Facebook notification, at that point I don't get any more notifications....attempting to clear out facebook data and cache to see if that does anything
Try disabling WMM on your router.
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Try disabling WMM on your router.
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Forgive the stupid, but what's WMM short for in case that's not readily apparent?
Edit: I've also noticed the problem is exponentially worse after I upload pictures to facebook
Edit Edit: Found WMM, turned it off, let's see what happens.
I has this kind of issue before and did a cold boot but nothing happaned. so my last option was to do a restore. After that, my WIFI connection got okay again. problem solved :silly:
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I has this kind of issue before and did a cold boot but nothing happaned. so my last option was to do a restore. After that, my WIFI connection got okay again. problem solved :silly:
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You mean full reset? It looks like I may have to do that with the idle battery drain issue anyways....so that's the last resort.
Hey guys I'm having a similar issue with my moto x on the 2.4ghz band. Speeds are very slow and sometimes cut out completely. Im getting a download speed of about 300kb/s on 2.4 both on auto channel and it doesn't rlly change once I change it manually to an open channel using WiFi analyzer app. My download speeds on 5ghz hit 4000kb/s even with a much lower signal strength.
YouTube and Netflix is unusable and growing the internet sucks. I usually just use the 4g network while at home cuz its a thousand times faster but I'd like this to be fixed regardless. Has anyone found a solution or explanation?
2.4 ghz wifi issues
matt87n said:
Hey guys I'm having a similar issue with my moto x on the 2.4ghz band. Speeds are very slow and sometimes cut out completely. Im getting a download speed of about 300kb/s on 2.4 both on auto channel and it doesn't rlly change once I change it manually to an open channel using WiFi analyzer app. My download speeds on 5ghz hit 4000kb/s even with a much lower signal strength.
YouTube and Netflix is unusable and growing the internet sucks. I usually just use the 4g network while at home cuz its a thousand times faster but I'd like this to be fixed regardless. Has anyone found a solution or explanation?
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I'm having these issues too. Got the GSM Developer Edition on 11/29. It immediately updated to Kit Kat OTA so I'm not sure whether it had the issue prior to Kit Kat or not. This only happens on 2.4 ghz wifi and only with one of my routers at home, a Netgear WNDR3700v2 running OpenWrt Attitude Adjustment (I tried upgrading from Backfire to see if it would help, it did not). The other router is a Linksys WRT350N and when the phone is connected to that one the problem does not happen. Note, that there are 2 laptops, a Samsung Galaxy S2, and a Kindle Fire HDX that have zero problems with the WNDR3700. All can transfer data perfectly fine and at high speeds. Thus I do not think the router is bad. Have not checked work routers. 5 ghz wifi is totally fine and indeed very good with this phone.
For me, the problem is that the phone seems unable to receive data at high speed (over 1Mbps) on 2.4 ghz wifi in any area where the signal isn't perfect and sometimes even in the same room as the router (although usually it is fine there). Oddly in many cases when it has trouble receiving it can send data much faster. It almost seems like it might be some kind of interference as it is rather random.
At this point I'm wondering if the phone has a defective 2.4ghz subsystem, though that seem unlikely due to good transfer with the WRT350N, or if this is some kind of wifi tuning software bug in the phone.
Any info would be appreciated. Does anyone have this issue who did not have the issue on Jellybean? Am wondering if anything changed with wifi for the update? Note, I have tried clearing the cache in recovery as noted in another thread with no luck. Anyone have the WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini file from Jellybean for this phone? Would rather not reflash just for 1 file.
Thanks.
glimmer00 said:
I'm having these issues too. Got the GSM Developer Edition on 11/29. It immediately updated to Kit Kat OTA so I'm not sure whether it had the issue prior to Kit Kat or not. This only happens on 2.4 ghz wifi and only with one of my routers at home, a Netgear WNDR3700v2 running OpenWrt Attitude Adjustment (I tried upgrading from Backfire to see if it would help, it did not). The other router is a Linksys WRT350N and when the phone is connected to that one the problem does not happen. Note, that there are 2 laptops, a Samsung Galaxy S2, and a Kindle Fire HDX that have zero problems with the WNDR3700. All can transfer data perfectly fine and at high speeds. Thus I do not think the router is bad. Have not checked work routers. 5 ghz wifi is totally fine and indeed very good with this phone.
For me, the problem is that the phone seems unable to receive data at high speed (over 1Mbps) on 2.4 ghz wifi in any area where the signal isn't perfect and sometimes even in the same room as the router (although usually it is fine there). Oddly in many cases when it has trouble receiving it can send data much faster. It almost seems like it might be some kind of interference as it is rather random.
At this point I'm wondering if the phone has a defective 2.4ghz subsystem, though that seem unlikely due to good transfer with the WRT350N, or if this is some kind of wifi tuning software bug in the phone.
Any info would be appreciated. Does anyone have this issue who did not have the issue on Jellybean? Am wondering if anything changed with wifi for the update? Note, I have tried clearing the cache in recovery as noted in another thread with no luck. Anyone have the WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini file from Jellybean for this phone? Would rather not reflash just for 1 file.
Thanks.
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For what it's worth I have this same Netgear router and have had the same connectivity issues on both 4.2.2 and 4.4.
I did some reading today and found a couple possible fixes I plan on trying out. First one is to disable WMM. Secondly I found on the official netgear forums that they have had major issues (some of which you've described) with all firmwares ending in the .30s and went so far as to pull them from their download section.
My router was running firmware .36 and I successfully downgraded it to the latest stable firmware .12 that netgear now recommends.
Hopefully 1 of those 2 fixes improves the performance, at any rate I really think it's something with the router itself and not the moto x.
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Thanks for letting me know this was also an issue on 4.2.2. Saves me the trouble of flashing back just to test.
I will be interested to know if your using official netgear 1.0.0.12 firmware fixes the issue for you. I haven't actually ever used the official firmware as I've run OpenWRT since I got the router a year or two ago. 10.03.1 had the issue, and it appears 12.09 does as well. I may try a trunk build at some point to see if that changes anything.
I had previously written that all was well on the 5 ghz band. This appears to not be 100% correct. Yesterday evening and this morning I found myself "connected" to the 5ghz band without actually having working internet. Toggle wifi on/off fixes it, but I shouldn't have to do it.
Not sure if this helps, but on the 2.4 ghz side things do work better on one side of the house vs the other. Also it seems that I can get a very fast connection at times and then it stumbles and gets stuck going under 1 Mbps. I still suspect either a defect or some kind of low level radio issues with the moto or the router regarding interference from neighboring wifi access points (there are a lot around me, single family houses on small lots). However, keep in mind no other device has these issues but the moto. In the rare instance I venture into a bad signal pocket the signal indicator goes down and speed slows or they lose connection vs the moto where it can show excellent signal and have no/nearly no connectivity.
I haven't tried it for long, but switching to wireless g mode vs ng may improve stability though I only briefly tried it. I did walk around part of my house checking the Mbps with the app "WiFi Speed Test" and while way slower than N mode it was far more stable. Even if this does work it is a definate downgrade in speed though.
Well its only been a day or two so it may be too early to tell, but so far my wifi seems much better after making those two fixes I mentioned above. This is on 2.4 band, the 5ghz band doesn't provide me enough signal strength to use all the time (router is too far from my bedroom).
The main issue I was having was my wifi signal would cut out even though it still showed a good connection. I could swipe down on the status bar and see no download arrow next to the wifi icon so I knew I wasn't receiving data. However a simple disconnect and reconnect to my wifi would fix the problem until it happened again. This seemed to be most common while watching YouTube videos, in fact it happened far too often which is why I went searching for a solution.
So as I mentioned things seem to be better for sure so far but I need to give it a week or so to see how much it is really helped, but so far I can't remember any wifi cutting out since I've made those two fixes.
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One guy on Sony forum post this fix
i fix wifi with solution
Please root your phone before edit
Open the file /system/etc/firmware/wlan/prima/WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini in text editor
Change ConnectivityThresholdDBM=-87 to ConnectivityThresholdDBM=-100
reboot
no problem about battery drain.
my fw is 2.254
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I dont know if it works or not. Im testing it now and i post it to allow you try it.
This has been posted before in general section and some report it works some not.
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It helps I think.
My understanding is that this is the level when the phone decides that wifi is too weak and it should switch to a data signal.
I don’t suffer from range issues – the SP has as good, if not better range than all the other wireless devices in my house. However connecting in the first place can be a right pain.
I had an xperia ray before and it also did what I’m about to describe (but connected more reliably) – in essence when wifi is ‘connecting’ the signal strength will go from excellent/good/fair to poor or even nothing. It fails to connect and I’m told there’s an authentication issue.
This tells me that either my router reduces its wifi signal, or my phone is less able to receive the signal during this stage. As my router is old (6/7 years), I’m inclined to think it’s the router – Sony probably test their devices on more recent hardware.
With these things in mind what this tweak does, is hold on to the wifi signal for longer before switching to a data connection, making connecting to wifi more likely.
In my case after applying this hack the signal still drops whilst ‘connecting/authenticating’ but connects more frequently, and the signal goes back up again once connection is made.
I must also say that wifi problems are not unique to Sony devices and having had a look elsewhere for a solution I discovered that many other phones, from a variety of manufacturers, have similar issues. One of the big US Universities even wrote reports about how the Android OS was at fault for overloading their wireless network with repeated DHCP requests.
Anyway before you apply the tweak try enabling ‘auto IP support’ in advanced wireless settings. Similarly it doesn’t make sense to have ‘avoid poor connections’ enabled.
It does work for me
juansuperuser said:
One guy on Sony forum post this fix
I dont know if it works or not. Im testing it now and i post it to allow you try it.
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I changed the file as well. It worked for me, now it doesn't disconnect randomly on weak signals..couple of inches range increased.
Didnt work for me.
Deathless93 said:
Didnt work for me.
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Thanks for the answers. I have been testing this fix and i can say it works for me. Where i had 1 weak signal now i have 2 or 1 but a steady one. Now i can move in my house without losing WiFi.
Remember that you can change -100 and test it with more (-300) but I supouse the battery will last less. Otherwise you can change to -90 or -95 if you think WiFi its enough good.
Very good. Saw significant improvement in the areas of the house that I had a problem with the connection before. C5303 on 12.0.A.1.257.
Thanks
On the stock 4.1.1 rom i could reach wifi from my modem at about 60 feet or even more. I could stand at the farthest point in my house and still get 2 out of 4 bars on wifi. I loaded slimkat and although it was a good rom it lagged to much, and now im on the latest cm11 nightly, but both roms gave poor wifi performance, i could barely reach it from 20 feet. It would connect but i couldn't really use the internet cause the signal was so bad.
Anyone else have this problem? I have a 2wire modem if anyone is wondering.
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On the stock 4.1.1 rom i could reach wifi from my modem at about 60 feet or even more. I could stand at the farthest point in my house and still get 2 out of 4 bars on wifi. I loaded slimkat and although it was a good rom it lagged to much, and now im on the latest cm11 nightly, but both roms gave poor wifi performance, i could barely reach it from 20 feet. It would connect but i couldn't really use the internet cause the signal was so bad.
Anyone else have this problem? I have a 2wire modem if anyone is wondering.
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I have been having issues with Wi-Fi, but it's my provider fault. So no, no issues so far. I'm on a Carbon ROM nightly. BTW, you don't need to "bump".
What frequency does your router use? 2.4 or 5 ghz? And how many walls is it going through? Mine uses both and I get good reception up till my fence line, about 40ft away from the router behind a brick wall and some windows, using 2.4 whereas 5 will barely make it out of the house. I have a Western Digital router, not sure of the model number, but it was a cheapo from Walmart.
That said, wifi has been strange with custom roms on 4.4 with some people. For some of us it seems to be just fine where others have poor or no signal. The following is speculation based on what I've noticed lately --- Makes me wonder if some phones have revision B of the wifi chip when development team is using A, or something like that. The RAZR HD was having similar issues caused by different chipset revisions when KitKat first came out and maybe we're having the same. --- End speculation.
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What frequency does your router use? 2.4 or 5 ghz? And how many walls is it going through? Mine uses both and I get good reception up till my fence line, about 40ft away from the router behind a brick wall and some windows, using 2.4 whereas 5 will barely make it out of the house. I have a Western Digital router, not sure of the model number, but it was a cheapo from Walmart.
That said, wifi has been strange with custom roms on 4.4 with some people. For some of us it seems to be just fine where others have poor or no signal. The following is speculation based on what I've noticed lately --- Makes me wonder if some phones have revision B of the wifi chip when development team is using A, or something like that. The RAZR HD was having similar issues caused by different chipset revisions when KitKat first came out and maybe we're having the same. --- End speculation.
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I understand there maybe many factors why the signal is weak, but its the fact that after i changed the rom the reception became worse.
Im using a 2.4 GHz i think. Mine has to go through a floor because its in the basment and from the floor goes through 2 walls to get to my room where before i flashed kit kat i got 2 bars just fine and could use the internet and now it doesn't even get signal. Before flashing kit kat i could get 2 bars in my sisters room (floor and around 3 walls and furniture around 50 feet away). Its a big house so...but its never been this bad even with my old phone! which is an lg optimus one.
after doing extensive research on the kit kat update, turns out this is a location services/wifi chip conflict and this pretty much renders the wifi chip useless. so unless your router is strong (and mine isnt) you wont get good wifi connection anywhere.
One way to sort of fix it is to do the following.
1. Go to Settings>Location Services> Device only (basically so it would not use the wifi and this would free up some bandwidth for your phone).
2. Go to Settings>Wifi>Advanced>Turn the Eco mode/ Battery saver mode OFF
This will increase performance of the wifi chip and stop google from using up your wifi to track you (lol)
This also seems to drastically increase battery performance, I loose about 1 percent every 5 minutes with screen off. Right now i am at 78% and not going down at all while my screen is on. So...i guess the battery saver thing drains battery??? (idk maybe a cm bug).
Hope this helps anyone who has this problem on kit kat. By the way turning off location services does 2 bad things, renders certain apps useless and 2, does not help wifi (idk why).
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Its been around 10 minutes and battery isn't going down
russian392 said:
after doing extensive research on the kit kat update, turns out this is a location services/wifi chip conflict and this pretty much renders the wifi chip useless. so unless your router is strong (and mine isnt) you wont get good wifi connection anywhere.
One way to sort of fix it is to do the following.
1. Go to Settings>Location Services> Device only (basically so it would not use the wifi and this would free up some bandwidth for your phone).
2. Go to Settings>Wifi>Advanced>Turn the Eco mode/ Battery saver mode OFF
This will increase performance of the wifi chip and stop google from using up your wifi to track you (lol)
This also seems to drastically increase battery performance, I loose about 1 percent every 5 minutes with screen off. Right now i am at 78% and not going down at all while my screen is on. So...i guess the battery saver thing drains battery??? (idk maybe a cm bug).
Hope this helps anyone who has this problem on kit kat. By the way turning off location services does 2 bad things, renders certain apps useless and 2, does not help wifi (idk why).
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Its been around 10 minutes and battery isn't going down
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I don't see the Eco Mode, maybe is just a feature of the ROM you are using? I see Wi-Fi optimization (minimize battery usage when Wi-Fi is on), is that it?
Yea that is the one he is referring to. Btw, I personally don't have WiFi issues on my roms, go back to stock if you get a chance and see if the wifi is still failing, it may just be that 2-Wire.
russian392 said:
after doing extensive research on the kit kat update, turns out this is a location services/wifi chip conflict and this pretty much renders the wifi chip useless. so unless your router is strong (and mine isnt) you wont get good wifi connection anywhere.
One way to sort of fix it is to do the following.
1. Go to Settings>Location Services> Device only (basically so it would not use the wifi and this would free up some bandwidth for your phone).
2. Go to Settings>Wifi>Advanced>Turn the Eco mode/ Battery saver mode OFF
This will increase performance of the wifi chip and stop google from using up your wifi to track you (lol)
This also seems to drastically increase battery performance, I loose about 1 percent every 5 minutes with screen off. Right now i am at 78% and not going down at all while my screen is on. So...i guess the battery saver thing drains battery??? (idk maybe a cm bug).
Hope this helps anyone who has this problem on kit kat. By the way turning off location services does 2 bad things, renders certain apps useless and 2, does not help wifi (idk why).
EDIT
Its been around 10 minutes and battery isn't going down
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Hmmm. I'm already doing #1, haven't bothered taking a #2, I mean trying #2 ever....My wifi is set to go on and off with the screen and I only connect to trusted networks, for me, there never has been reason to use #1 between paranoia and wanting to save battery life.
Good finds, it'll be worth watching logs when those settings are enable/disabled to see if any errors pop up.
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Silentwidow said:
Yea that is the one he is referring to. Btw, I personally don't have WiFi issues on my roms, go back to stock if you get a chance and see if the wifi is still failing, it may just be that 2-Wire.
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He did go to stock and it worked just fine -- in the OP....errr, at least said that it works with stock just fine.
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Hmmm. I'm already doing #1, haven't bothered taking a #2, I mean trying #2 ever....My wifi is set to go on and off with the screen and I only connect to trusted networks, for me, there never has been reason to use #1 between paranoia and wanting to save battery life.
Good finds, it'll be worth watching logs when those settings are enable/disabled to see if any errors pop up.
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He did go to stock and it worked just fine -- in the OP....errr, at least said that it works with stock just fine.
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Yes i did go back to stock to check if it was the phone or the rom. It is the kit kat os...many other devices are reporting this problem.
Also noticed a CM bug, the camera has a hard time saving video over 10 seconds long and also the google play music app reboots the device for some reason...anyone else with this?
For now i am getting close to usual wifi after changing my settings around although it is still only 60-70% as strong as it should be :/
mauchito said:
I don't see the Eco Mode, maybe is just a feature of the ROM you are using? I see Wi-Fi optimization (minimize battery usage when Wi-Fi is on), is that it?
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Yes that is what it is...i just called it eco mode but yes it is the wifi optimization thingy
I flashed the pa moto ROM and with the WiFi, I had great signal, it just would not connect. To any router at all. It would sit at saved and never attempt to connect.
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tork0112 said:
I flashed the pa moto ROM and with the WiFi, I had great signal, it just would not connect. To any router at all. It would sit at saved and never attempt to connect.
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sometimes i get that too on CM. It wont connect to wifi till i literally come right up to the modem, otherwise if im walking around the house it wont even see the signal (if im moving around). I have to stop, stand there for like 2 minutes till it finds the signal. Usually if its 1-2 bars of wifi it wont even bother to try to connect.
This is a huge kit kat bug.
I always have had problems with WiFi, even on stock (because of a 3rd world internet provider).. But I can't download anything con google play... I download at 10kbps per second, but downloading from other apps or browser Its decent like 2-3mb/s. How can I fix this?
Arjomer said:
I always have had problems with WiFi, even on stock (because of a 3rd world internet provider).. But I can't download anything con google play... I download at 10kbps per second, but downloading from other apps or browser Its decent like 2-3mb/s. How can I fix this?
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now that i dont know.
My problem isn't internet speed. Even here in the USA i get 70kbps internet because to get anything more than that i need to pay 2 or 3 times more and i already pay 30 bucks a month for 70kb. But the problem is the signal, i cant get signal in my bedroom on kit kat rom, but i can on stock.
your problem? i really dont know, try clearing data on the play store, rebooting the phone and trying again. its probably a play store issue
Yeah.. I hope we could get a decent wifi reception on kk. And I already done that, Should I flash other gapps?
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I flashed the Pac Man 4.4.2 ROM on my kids Atrix HD, and that was the first thing I noticed. I was doing the work at my desk, which is located about 5' (with a typical wall in between) from my AT&T (Motorola) wireless router. Prior to that; I got full bars on the Wi-Fi signal strength meter anywhere within a 50-60-' radius. After I did the upgrade from Pac Man 4.3; sitting at my desk, 5' away from the router; I was only getting 3 bars - which - still works, but is a significant degradation in Wi-Fi performance. Sitting at the same desk, or anywhere on my property with either my Samsung S4 or Note 3, I have full bars, and full speed. Both of my Sammy's are running the stock AT&T KK update, unrooted - but living for the day that an exploit becomes available.
In fact; when I turn the corner onto my street (my house is the second house) my Sammy's connect to my router before I reach my driveway. Now, bear in mind; I have the power of my router turned up to a full 10. The router is located inside my bedroom closet near the ceiling, with no external antennas. I have it bridged to a dual band D-Link router for 5GHz with the 2GHz disabled. I carefully used a spectrum analyzer / logger to sweep the area for the best channels, as well. All that being said; I don't think much of that is relevant to the decreased Wi-Fi- performance of the Atrix HD, since it worked similarly to the Sammy's before the 4.4.2 bump.
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I flashed the Pac Man 4.4.2 ROM on my kids Atrix HD, and that was the first thing I noticed. I was doing the work at my desk, which is located about 5' (with a typical wall in between) from my AT&T (Motorola) wireless router. Prior to that; I got full bars on the Wi-Fi signal strength meter anywhere within a 50-60-' radius. After I did the upgrade from Pac Man 4.3; sitting at my desk, 5' away from the router; I was only getting 3 bars - which - still works, but is a significant degradation in Wi-Fi performance. Sitting at the same desk, or anywhere on my property with either my Samsung S4 or Note 3, I have full bars, and full speed. Both of my Sammy's are running the stock AT&T KK update, unrooted - but living for the day that an exploit becomes available.
In fact; when I turn the corner onto my street (my house is the second house) my Sammy's connect to my router before I reach my driveway. Now, bear in mind; I have the power of my router turned up to a full 10. The router is located inside my bedroom closet near the ceiling, with no external antennas. I have it bridged to a dual band D-Link router for 5GHz with the 2GHz disabled. I carefully used a spectrum analyzer / logger to sweep the area for the best channels, as well. All that being said; I don't think much of that is relevant to the decreased Wi-Fi- performance of the Atrix HD, since it worked similarly to the Sammy's before the 4.4.2 bump.
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I'm also on at&t except with a 2wire router. I had to move the router around to get slightly better signal. But still. I would sit in my friends house and I could use his parents houses WiFi (on the same property) and get 2 bars. Now its none.
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russian392 said:
I'm also on at&t except with a 2wire router. I had to move the router around to get slightly better signal. But still. I would sit in my friends house and I could use his parents houses WiFi (on the same property) and get 2 bars. Now its none.
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I had a 2Wire until last summer and it was a pretty decent router with decent coverage. I modified it by adding two external antennas and only made a slight difference. that was before rooting, tweaking, etc. The Motorola router is much better with respect to signal coverage - without any modifications.
The issue that I'm having, now is that I'm experiencing significantly less Wi Fi performance with the Atrix HD after I did the operating system upgrade. The other two stock phones are still working as well, or better than expected after the 4.4.2 update.
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I had a 2Wire until last summer and it was a pretty decent router with decent coverage. I modified it by adding two external antennas and only made a slight difference. that was before rooting, tweaking, etc. The Motorola router is much better with respect to signal coverage - without any modifications.
The issue that I'm having, now is that I'm experiencing significantly less Wi Fi performance with the Atrix HD after I did the operating system upgrade. The other two stock phones are still working as well, or better than expected after the 4.4.2 update.
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Are you using official 4.4?
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