Yes with 4.4.2 we get more RAM, but the phone is not using it. In 4.3 I could easily keep 9-11 (2.2gb RAM/2.38gb) apps running in the background. 4.4.2 it now stays around 5-7app using (2.0gb RAM/2.71gb). Anyone else notice this?
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Yes with 4.4.2 we get more RAM, but the phone is not using it. In 4.3 I could easily keep 9-11 (2.2gb RAM/2.38gb) apps running in the background. 4.4.2 it now stays around 5-7app using (2.0gb RAM/2.71gb). Anyone else notice this?
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Tell me again how a software update will give you more ram? You don't get more ram. Sorry. What you got was ART which doesn't even matter with the Note 3 because our hardware is TWICE as powerful as most stuff out there. Its sad... Kit kat has never been what it was meant to be. Think of it like Morpheus with the blue pill and the red pill.
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RErick said:
What you got was ART
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As far as I know the Note 3 did not get ART. As many of you may know, when you wipe the dalvik cache and reboot the phone
"optimizes" all installed apps. When I had KitKat ROMs with ART enabled on my Galaxy Nexus it would take forever to "optimize" everything. My Note 3 running KitKat optimizes all 200+ apps in less than 2 minutes, much like my Nexus did when I was using dalvik. Based on these observations I believe that we're still stuck with dalvik.
I am using a custom KitKat ROM on my Note 3, so maybe the official OTA has ART and the ROM I'm using doesn't? I don't see an option for it in the development settings and I doubt the developer would remove it.
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As far as I know the Note 3 did not get ART. As many of you may know, when you wipe the dalvik cache and reboot the phone
"optimizes" all installed apps. When I had KitKat ROMs with ART enabled on my Galaxy Nexus it would take forever to "optimize" everything. My Note 3 running KitKat optimizes all 200+ apps in less than 2 minutes, much like my Nexus did when I was using dalvik. Based on these observations I believe that we're still stuck with dalvik.
I am using a custom KitKat ROM on my Note 3, so maybe the official OTA has ART and the ROM I'm using doesn't? I don't see an option for it in the development settings and I doubt the developer would remove it.
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Well first of all, the note 3 is 5 times as powerful as the gnex. Secondly, if that's the case and we don't get ART because our hardware is so badass, then tell me what was the point of the upgrade?
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Well first of all, the note 3 is 5 times as powerful as the gnex.
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According to this article (link below) Samsung removed ART from its 4.4.2 update. The author didn't specify which version of the Note they tested, so it may or may not apply to the AT&T or other US variants of the Note 3.
Link: http://allaboutgalaxynote.com/galax...top-5-disappointments-and-top-5-consolations/
Secondly, if that's the case and we don't get ART because our hardware is so badass, then tell me what was the point of the upgrade?
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Upgrade from what? My Nexus or 4.3 on my Note? I upgraded from my Nexus because the battery life was absolutely terrible, the screen was cracked, the reception was awful, it was a 2.5 year old device, and I wanted a giant phablet with a stylus.
I upgraded from 4.3 on my Note because I wanted to try out the mighty Knoxraid that was being praised on this forum. If I was going to flash a custom ROM I figured that I might as well use one based on the latest version on Android, with or without ART.
I'm not trying to start a fight or anything. I'm just stating my opinion based on my experience with ART on my old rundown Galaxy Nexus and what I've read...
Let's not make this an argument over which roms are better than others....
Stay on topic, thanks.
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When you guys were on the Note 2 before updating to the Note 3 (or any Galaxy device), how long did it take for the update(s) to come out where you would get the UI from the Galaxy S device? For example, the phone, web browser, texting UI, etc updated for the Note 2 and it looks similar to the S4. Like I understand it's hard to explain, but I was wondering when will our Note 3's look like the S5's TW ui?
The answer is maybe never. Think about it you buy a device with one look learn it then they force a whole new look on you. This would outrage probably most novice users.
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There's a way to get the s5 look on the note 3. I currently use it now.
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When you guys were on the Note 2 before updating to the Note 3 (or any Galaxy device), how long did it take for the update(s) to come out where you would get the UI from the Galaxy S device? For example, the phone, web browser, texting UI, etc updated for the Note 2 and it looks similar to the S4. Like I understand it's hard to explain, but I was wondering when will our Note 3's look like the S5's TW ui?
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There is an xposed module for that.
Cbass15 said:
There's a way to get the s5 look on the note 3. I currently use it now.
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Can I get this without rooting or voiding my warranty? I hate Knox, but I don't want to trip it and I rather keep my warranty intact. I rooted my old Note on Verizon, but then unrooted it later and it's warranty is unvoided, but I rather not root alltogether and keep it clean.
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There is an xposed module for that.
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These modules are available without rooting?
nviz22 said:
These modules are available without rooting?
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No, need xposed framework.
posersk8r said:
No, need xposed framework.
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Sorry, not familiar with the program. Is that a program where you have to rewrite some core files with the Note 3's hidden file system?
nviz22 said:
Sorry, not familiar with the program. Is that a program where you have to rewrite some core files with the Note 3's hidden file system?
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I dont know about hidden file systems, just google it dude, lots of videos on youtube too about modules for xposed framework.
Hy...i have a problem wit huge battery drain..Under setting and battery I can find gifss deamon on the first place 40%.... and I assume this is the reason....can somebody tell me how can delete this think and what is it? I have stock version 4.4.2...thanks for help
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Anyone else hope Google brings us an option to run dalvik in lolliflop?..
yes it can have a slight delay when pressing home button for instance, but that's the nature of the beast, because much less has been pre compiled. On the other hand apps take less space up, which i think is a bigger advantage.
once a java/dalvik coded app is up and running, qualcomm optimised dakvik reigns king. no benchmarks needed, you can see with your own eyes, launchers, animations run way smoother.
personally i have gone back to kitkat and optimised dalvik
I don't miss Dalvik, have been on ART all the time on KK also. But although I knew that ART would be standard on Lollipop, I thought they would still give users the choice - for compatibility reasons alone, since not all apps (especially games) will run on ART right now.
This thread, when DuARTe warriors come
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seriously, who would want Dalvik when we have ART! even if first boot takes a while, everything is much smoother. i don't have any issues with performance.
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seriously, who would want Dalvik when we have ART! even if first boot takes a while, everything is much smoother. i don't have any issues with performance.
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Agreed. ART is the way of the future. And with so many cloud storage options, space should not be a problem.
there's no xposed for art right now. that's why we need dalvik. will stay on KitKat because of that reason.
it wont happen
If we don't get rid of dalvik completely then some developer will just not fixing ART compatibility.
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Screw Dalvik! It's crap compared to ART. Smoother you say? Not a chance. I'm 100% sure they wont bring it back and that's a good thing.
Run Spotify for example in Dalvik compared to ART and that pretty much sums it up.
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there's no xposed for art right now. that's why we need dalvik. will stay on KitKat because of that reason.
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an app doesn't support ART, so Google is the problem, not maybe, the app developers who had few months to fit their app to art.. interesting.
well, what if Google wouldn't force us to use ART(which is better), and app developers wouldn't have a reason to use art? it could slow down technological advancing and we wouldn't want that.
Ummmmm...
Facepalm. That is all.
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an app doesn't support ART, so Google is the problem, not maybe, the app developers who had few months to fit their app to art.. interesting.
well, what if Google wouldn't force us to use ART(which is better), and app developers wouldn't have a reason to use art? it could slow down technological advancing and we wouldn't want that.
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No it's the app developers fault for not updating their app to ART. Google gave plenty of heads up on the change. Its newer technology and it's entirely the app developers fault if they haven't adapted their app for it. Not sure why you'd think it's Google's fault...
Edit: NVM, understood your post. Was kind of hard to follow at first.
I think Windows 95 is more efficient and better optimized than Windows 7/8. If we listened to this advixe wed be stuck in the technological stoneage.
Some people don't like change. Very closed mindset.
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I think Windows 95 is more efficient and better optimized than Windows 7/8. If we listened to this advixe wed be stuck in the technological stoneage.
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I get you but at no time was Win95 more optimized than anything.
Let's all ask Microsoft to make the new halo for the original xbox, remember there is power in numbers
One step forward and two steps back.
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How can I sideload Vista?
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How can I sideload Vista?
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You put the dvd next to the phone everything else is automatic
Wait a second, won't I need SCSI cables for this?
Ha!!!
Another case of 'I want xposed, screw google' syndrome?
I think so!
Stay on kit Kat while we enjoy the greatness of lollipop.
I don't know if this is exactly the right place for this however I love this phone but there seems to be no support for modified kernels. Without a modified kernel it seems that adjusting the CPU frequency seems to be overwritten everytime on a rooted phone. I took a crash course in creating a kernel and implementing a few changes and I am currently running it on my phone now once it last a day or two I might go ahead and put it up here so that people can actually try it out. But in the meantime I will host how I was able to get the frequency scaling to work and increase the battery life while still making it very responsive. Unfortunately it will have to wait until I get home because I am at work however I am very happy with what I have done and it seems to be the fastest I have got this phone to go and still ridiculous battery life, it even seems a little snappier than my brothers galaxy note 4. Stay tuned for instruction
Looking forward to this man, thanks.
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How did you get it loaded without a custom recovery and a locked bootloader?
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bmxmarine said:
I don't know if this is exactly the right place for this however I love this phone but there seems to be no support for modified kernels. Without a modified kernel it seems that adjusting the CPU frequency seems to be overwritten everytime on a rooted phone. I took a crash course in creating a kernel and implementing a few changes and I am currently running it on my phone now once it last a day or two I might go ahead and put it up here so that people can actually try it out. But in the meantime I will host how I was able to get the frequency scaling to work and increase the battery life while still making it very responsive. Unfortunately it will have to wait until I get home because I am at work however I am very happy with what I have done and it seems to be the fastest I have got this phone to go and still ridiculous battery life, it even seems a little snappier than my brothers galaxy note 4. Stay tuned for instruction
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ok first unless you somehow have the much sought after keys to unlock the bootloader you DID NOT FLASH ANY CUSTOM KERNEL to an AT&T G870A
or
You do not have a G870A but rather an international or otherwise version of the phone.
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ok first unless you somehow have the much sought after keys to unlock the bootloader you DID NOT FLASH ANY CUSTOM KERNEL to an AT&T G870A
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You do not have a G870A but rather an international or otherwise version of the phone.
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+1 yep
Well this thread died real quick
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Well this thread died real quick
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That's because there won't be a custom kernel for the Active or the G900A
Yeah. I know. I was just trying to liven things up. Lol.
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Hello. I just joined in here and I'm sorry if this in incorrect topic. I figured this is the best place to seek answers.
I have Samsung S4 Active GT-I9295 (obviously, otherwise I wouldn't post this in here) and I've recently experienced some minor lag and such in it. I have rooted it about six months ago and removed all the bloatware I didn't need, only sparing some of the apps I know I use. Now here's the thing: my space (16GB version) is almost full at all times, preventing me from using the camera and adding new music and apps because of this. I do have a memory card but that's almost full too and there are not that many apps that I can move in there. I'm figuring that the stock ROM is hogging most of the space. Even though it's rooted, it doesn't allow me to download any updates for apps and even if I manage to remove something that frees some of the space necessary to update, Google Play doesn't update. It just notifies me "updating <APP_X>" and stays there for who knows how long. Sometimes it stays there for half an hour, sometimes even two days. Yeah, no joking here. After the notification goes away, it states that <APP_X> has a new update.
So, are there any custom roms FOR GT-I9295 (really emphasizing this because I want to make it clear) that use Lollipop 5.0.1? I would really like to download a custom rom but I'm not that fond of KitKat version of the roms. And all the custom roms I've found so far are for other versions of S4 Active, which I believe don't work in my phone.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
Takkalenkki
Takkalenkki said:
Hello. I just joined in here and I'm sorry if this in incorrect topic. I figured this is the best place to seek answers.
I have Samsung S4 Active GT-I9295 (obviously, otherwise I wouldn't post this in here) and I've recently experienced some minor lag and such in it. I have rooted it about six months ago and removed all the bloatware I didn't need, only sparing some of the apps I know I use. Now here's the thing: my space (16GB version) is almost full at all times, preventing me from using the camera and adding new music and apps because of this. I do have a memory card but that's almost full too and there are not that many apps that I can move in there. I'm figuring that the stock ROM is hogging most of the space. Even though it's rooted, it doesn't allow me to download any updates for apps and even if I manage to remove something that frees some of the space necessary to update, Google Play doesn't update. It just notifies me "updating <APP_X>" and stays there for who knows how long. Sometimes it stays there for half an hour, sometimes even two days. Yeah, no joking here. After the notification goes away, it states that <APP_X> has a new update.
So, are there any custom roms FOR GT-I9295 (really emphasizing this because I want to make it clear) that use Lollipop 5.0.1? I would really like to download a custom rom but I'm not that fond of KitKat version of the roms. And all the custom roms I've found so far are for other versions of S4 Active, which I believe don't work in my phone.
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A close look at the development section would've found you what you're looking for. The first two threads are for the most popular roms for your phone:
--SuperWiz Cyan 5.0.1 (a Touchwiz-based rom)
--Cyanogenmod 12/12.1 (obviously more AOSP-grounded)
There's also Metallium Rom (another touchwiz-based rom), as well as Pacman Rom and SlimLP which are both based off of CM12. Point being is you definitely have options
Thank you my dear sir! Although I searched for about two hours I was unable to find any of those roms you linked. I'm gonna give those a shot this coming weekend!
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official nightly cyanogenmod working with it for months now [emoji4]
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I have an ota update available.
Probably just modem and bootloader as usual.
600mb though.........
Probably the BlueBorne fix. It took really long to get it released...
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i'm still rocking 5.1.1 stock/no root. i don't know if i can trust that these updates to our Note 4 are actually improving it. I feel like it's deoptimization. And worse of all, it's not guaranteed you can downgrade successfully
I still love my Note Four and just had it refurbished!
Prefer my old note 3 to the 4.
they took out to many voice commands etc
cannot control the music player with voice
4 has better hardware for sure but they just took away to many good things
update was modem/bootloader afaics.
security patch is aug2017 so that hasn't been updated
but it seems at least my phone does not have the blueborne vulnerability after checking with the Armis app.
Definitely loved, one more time, in OTA form (217Mb worth of it)
I am still rocking the N910C as my daily driver. I love the fact that I could swap out the battery in seconds and not have to lug around a heavy powerbank to keep it charged.
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I have an ota update available.
Probably just modem and bootloader as usual.
600mb though.........
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Don't update if you use an extended battery. Mine won't recognise the battery as extended after the update, even after six complete charge cycles draining to empty and charging to full.
update
got yesterday software (230MB) update
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I have N910C since early 2015,
I bought LG G4 after the Note .. after 2 months I sold it, you can't compare any screen with the Note 4 gorgeous screen.
Tried my luck with iPhone 6s Plus, sold it .. reason ? cuz it's piece of sh*t.
Another try with S7 edge, I did not like the curved screen also I missed the S Pen and the replaceable battery [ I have 5 batteries one of them 10,000 mAh].
In my opinion, the note 4 is the most completed phone made ever even it's 4 years old.
I'm using SimpleRom which is the lightest rom made for N910C, day to day usage you will not notice any speed different between the note 4 and newer flagship.
Same here.
I just got an update after a long time, but with no security updates. Weirdly, I've seen same variants as the German has a October update, whereas I keep having the August update.
https://samsung-firmware.org/model/SM-N910F/region/DBT/
And despite having almost 3 months the update, I got it yesterday.
Any further information about this upgrade?
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i'm still rocking 5.1.1 stock/no root. i don't know if i can trust that these updates to our Note 4 are actually improving it. I feel like it's deoptimization. And worse of all, it's not guaranteed you can downgrade successfully
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Just curious what's your SOT on a good day?
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Just curious what's your SOT on a good day?
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not good, like average 3- 3.5 hours? I'm on 6.0.1 now because my phone updated by itself after all this time. At first, it gave me a big battery boost, but now it feels lightly better than when i was on 5.1.1. But, some apps on 6.0.1 do feel a bit slower i find. i could always downgrade back, as i'm not on the latest 6.0.1