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[Q] ROM battery life

I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I've flashed a few ROMs, and I haven't been impressed with battery life yet. Some are obviously better than others but I have yet to see these day long battery life days even after calibrating battery and clearing battery stats and anything that's recommended.
I've started carrying a 2nd battery since I'm in the middle of coaching season and we take a good number of long trips in which I want to stream music or play games, etc while riding on the bus.
Can I get some opinions from those that have tried different ROMs on which gave you the absolute best battery life?

Def in the wrong place.

Wrong place plus this question has been asked and answered to death. Try searching and you will find your answers.

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kiltedthrower said:
I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I've flashed a few ROMs, and I haven't been impressed with battery life yet. Some are obviously better than others but I have yet to see these day long battery life days even after calibrating battery and clearing battery stats and anything that's recommended.
I've started carrying a 2nd battery since I'm in the middle of coaching season and we take a good number of long trips in which I want to stream music or play games, etc while riding on the bus.
Can I get some opinions from those that have tried different ROMs on which gave you the absolute best battery life?
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I havent a clue what your talking about i get 2 to 3 days out of many ROMs with medium useage best i seem to get is from Dilli,s rom and GB v.4 kernel UV 100 across the board this one i get 2 to 3 days of use with no bugs a few other ROMs have few things that dont work that i need, this ROM covers my needs and is fast good on batt very good choice for me.
is possible If u haved 3 or 4 hours of srceen time and some major texting and calling, and few hours of music u may never get good batt life depends how u use your phone.
I dont do more then 5 or 6 texts a day 5 or 6 calls a day i do use music app and headphones with screen off for about 4 to 8 hours the more i use the less i get this combo i use drains slow when i get to 10% and under it seems to hang on for hours before it dies all the way.
If you short charge your batt all the time u will kill it in a matter of weeks, U could have a bad battery or 2
Cycleing a batt all the way to full and all the way dead atleast 1 time a week or more batt life will be better
If you short charge your batt all the time it will get batt memory and only use the part of the batt you charge and disscharge to so if your useing 50% of your batt the it will only charge 50% if u use close to 100% it will charge to that.
Is true of all batterys car batt phone batts and so on.
I will tell u this me and my kid had same phone about 5 years ago because she short charged her phone all the time it would never last more then 5 or 6 hours yet mine would last 4 days with out chargeing.
we traded batterys and ofc she uses phone more them me it only lasted 2 1/4 days on that charge. but proves what i am telling u.
she learned from then on take the time and charge your phone to full and discharge as close to dead as u can.
easiest fix is do like i do i charge use 2 days near end of 2nd day i play a long vid till it dies the charge over night. and repeat i can go longer then 2 days but figer it is easier to charge over nite.
I also turn off gps,autorotate,data,bluetooth,wifi,also set wifi to sleep when screen is off, i turn off search for networks, i use a batt widget set screen to dimmest setting. and all the other stuff to save battery.

kiltedthrower said:
I apologize if this is in the wrong place. I've flashed a few ROMs, and I haven't been impressed with battery life yet. Some are obviously better than others but I have yet to see these day long battery life days even after calibrating battery and clearing battery stats and anything that's recommended.
I've started carrying a 2nd battery since I'm in the middle of coaching season and we take a good number of long trips in which I want to stream music or play games, etc while riding on the bus.
Can I get some opinions from those that have tried different ROMs on which gave you the absolute best battery life?
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I agree with you and have found this to be particularly true of some of the newer ROMs, my guess would be bad Kernel/Modem pairings, best advice is to pick a ROM with a large number of users since the support will be better for those ROMs and continue to experiment with compatible Kernel/Modem combinations for that ROM until you find the optimum one for your device/location

I searched and looked in the Q&A forum. I can't find more than 3-4 people agreeing that X ROM has the best battery life. Then a couple people will say "no, this ROM has better battery life." But for the most part unless I just missed a massive thread, the battery ROM question threads don't get a lot of answers.
I was mainly looking at if I got 100 people (throwing out a random number) to answer which ROM gave them the best battery life, I might start seeing certain ROMs which have better batter life than others without having to flash a bunch of different ROMs.

kiltedthrower said:
I searched and looked in the Q&A forum. I can't find more than 3-4 people agreeing that X ROM has the best battery life. Then a couple people will say "no, this ROM has better battery life." But for the most part unless I just missed a massive thread, the battery ROM question threads don't get a lot of answers.
I was mainly looking at if I got 100 people (throwing out a random number) to answer which ROM gave them the best battery life, I might start seeing certain ROMs which have better batter life than others without having to flash a bunch of different ROMs.
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It depends more on the apps and stats of your phone... are you running at full brightness? are there apps preventing your phone from sleeping? What is your wifi sleep policy? How is your signal, or are you getting the 50% Time-without-signal bug?
I'm running serendipity and get over 24 hrs. my usage is a couple hours of listening to music with poweramp, maybe 50 texts throughout the day, some gaming and facebooking.
I also havent cleared battery stats in weeks (although I've been on serendipity for about a couple weeks now). After flashing it at full battery, i just let it run to shutdown a couple times.

Some kernels are built for battery, and some apps or settings can be optimized for battery. Anything substantial will likely be included in pretty much every ROM, once it's known.
The main factor is that your battery meter is likely to act unpredictably for the first few days after you flash a ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806211

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11805468

steph2 said:
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
Sent from my Captivate

Post-Update Battery

((Please leave out any discussions about the "dangers" of updating in this thread))
So I updated via the leaked OTA 3 days ago and all is well so far. My battery has definitely improved by two fold (doubled). Prior to update my D3 would only go about half a day on light usage. Now it goes past 24 hours easy and could most likely push 36 hours (light use, wifi on 24/7).
However today I actually have been using my device quite a bit. Nothing heavy, really just organizing home screens and other duties of the sort.
So I look into my battery usage and after 6 hours my battery is at 40-50% with the display consuming a large amount of the battery. Brightness is at Automatic and the display itself has been on for 3 hours while using 50% of the battery. Is this normal or should % usage be more dispered between the running programs? I imagine the way battery usage stats work is that there will always be a program at the top with 40-50%... but maybe im (dead) wrong?
Also, how has your battery been since update?
(TL; DR) Display is raping my battery post-update, sup?
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...Battery just hit 5% after 8 hours and 4 hours of display on. It unbelievably dropped from 15% to 5% with no brightness in less than a half hour, oh and I was in airplane mode. Literally all I've been doing since I turned my phone on today is have music playing and tweak my homescreen settings.
On standby the battery kicks ass but wow if I actually want to use my phone, the battery is as good as dead.
Im going to try out the standard battery that came with my D3 tomorrow and see if I get better results. Maybe its just my extended battery that's faulty.
If that fails then there has to be something wrong with the way my display draws juice from the battery... and ill probably have to get a replacement ... fml ... those crappy refurbed phones.
Divide by zero, I dare you...

Battery life for me is mostly improved. I say mostly because in weak coverage areas this thing destroys battery life fast! 20% or more per hour kind of fast. Still better than stock, but not much in weak coverage.
Strong coverage areas, phone is much improved for battery life. Seems to be a baseband issue. Hint hint Moto.
What I have noticed the most, is that my data roaming enabled setting actually sticks now, even if i lose coverage. For me, that was one of the biggest things against this phone. It made my data so impossible to stay connected, it almost wasn't woth having.
I too have the official Moto extended battery, but i still struggle to get 24 hours out of my device with very mild usage. For example, i am at 15 hours now, no wi-fi usage, no bluetooth usage, both off, cdma mode only and display on time of 23 minutes total for that time. I'm now at 15%.
My other phones, 2 Eris, and 1 Inc2, get anywhere from 2.5-4 days on this kind of use. I am thinking about ditching this battery monger for an Inc2 until Moto gets their shnizit together, or CM7 is available via a custom recovery and unlocked bootloader.
I am loving having my data available without needing to recheck the data roaming box 100 times a day, and other fixes. I am glad i used the leaked update, as my phone was close to a brick without it anyhow.
Now all we need is the new soak test update to ensure we're official...my gut tells me we are.
Anyone else having issues with Swype predicting in Spanish after the leaked update was applied? Only happens in one app for me, so far.
Sent from my DROID3 using xda premium

wattnxt said:
Battery life for me is mostly improved. I say mostly because in weak coverage areas this thing destroys battery life fast! 20% or more per hour kind of fast. Still better than stock, but not much in weak coverage.
Strong coverage areas, phone is much improved for battery life. Seems to be a baseband issue. Hint hint Moto.
What I have noticed the most, is that my data roaming enabled setting actually sticks now, even if i lose coverage. For me, that was one of the biggest things against this phone. It made my data so impossible to stay connected, it almost wasn't woth having.
I too have the official Moto extended battery, but i still struggle to get 24 hours out of my device with very mild usage. For example, i am at 15 hours now, no wi-fi usage, no bluetooth usage, both off, cdma mode only and display on time of 23 minutes total for that time. I'm now at 15%.
My other phones, 2 Eris, and 1 Inc2, get anywhere from 2.5-4 days on this kind of use. I am thinking about ditching this battery monger for an Inc2 until Moto gets their shnizit together, or CM7 is available via a custom recovery and unlocked bootloader.
I am loving having my data available without needing to recheck the data roaming box 100 times a day, and other fixes. I am glad i used the leaked update, as my phone was close to a brick without it anyhow.
Now all we need is the new soak test update to ensure we're official...my gut tells me we are.
Anyone else having issues with Swype predicting in Spanish after the leaked update was applied? Only happens in one app for me, so far.
Sent from my DROID3 using xda premium
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Lol the thing is I live in NYC so there are no weak coverage areas except the subway and I put my phone in airplane mode during those times.
Im sure we wont have any problems updating when the new OTA hits (whether through legit ways or otherwise)
Divide by zero, I dare you...

The battery icon is misleading after the update. 60% - 70% reads more like 80% or 90%

Bobbar said:
The battery icon is misleading after the update. 60% - 70% reads more like 80% or 90%
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Would another battery widget fix that?
Divide by zero, I dare you...

Dmw017 said:
Would another battery widget fix that?
Divide by zero, I dare you...
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Yes.
The battery stats (system reported percentage) appear unchanged, it's just the rendering of the stock icon that seems to be different.
*EDIT*
I use Battery Circle, as it reports in increments of 1%. I'm sure there are others.

Post-update, my battery usage has been noticeably improved. Before updating, it seemed that my battery drained at about the same rate regardless of how much or how little I actually used the phone (excepting major battery hogs, like fancy games or navigation). Now, the drop, when not being used, is significantly slower compared to before. Battery drain when actually using the phone seems about the same. So, overall, I'd say the processes like phone idle and cell standby have been optimized to great success.
-SR-
PS: "Display" now consistently lands at the top of the usage list, as is to be expected, and is much more believable than before the update.

WarER4X said:
Post-update, my battery usage has been noticeably improved. Before updating, it seemed that my battery drained at about the same rate regardless of how much or how little I actually used the phone (excepting major battery hogs, like fancy games or navigation). Now, the drop, when not being used, is significantly slower compared to before. Battery drain when actually using the phone seems about the same. So, overall, I'd say the processes like phone idle and cell standby have been optimized to great success.
-SR-
PS: "Display" now consistently lands at the top of the usage list, as is to be expected, and is much more believable than before the update.
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Totally agree. My battery seems about the same if I actually use my phone but on standby my phone lasts like a champ.
I tried using my standard battery today and it lasted half as long as my extended one. Still, I doubt there's anything physically wrong with my phone... I guess batteries just suck all around lol
Divide by zero, I dare you...

Battery still sucks for me after update display is raping it for me as well..
Sent from my DROID3 using xda premium

wattnxt said:
Anyone else having issues with Swype predicting in Spanish after the leaked update was applied? Only happens in one app for me, so far.
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Yeah I noticed that too. If you go into Settings under Keyboard and Language, you can change it back to English.

After the update and debloat my battery was still struggling so I froze the task manager built into blur with TB and it seemed to have improved my battery just throwing that out there...
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ajbattaglia83 said:
After the update and debloat my battery was still struggling so I froze the task manager built into blur with TB and it seemed to have improved my battery just throwing that out there...
Sent from my DROID3 using xda premium
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Any repercussions? I heard freezing the task manager can have adverse effects on your phone. Also by how much did your battery increase, Im trying to see if taking the risk is worth it. The app is called taskmanager.apk I assume?
thanks
Divide by zero, I dare you...

Dmw017 said:
Any repercussions? I heard freezing the task manager can have adverse effects on your phone. Also by how much did your battery increase, Im trying to see if taking the risk is worth it. The app is called taskmanager.apk I assume?
thanks
Divide by zero, I dare you...
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No repercussions yet its been froze for about a day now and im getting about an extra 10% or so my battery meter shows
Sent from my DROID3 using xda premium

Ok so I froze the social location apk and can't believe how much my battery life improved...
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After the OTA update, I went from getting 8-12hrs of use to 2days easy.
That's with 85% left.
Also, I love that the battery symbol is fixed now. It pissed me off seeing the battery lose a bar when it hit 94%. Threw me off so bad.

[Q] Battery Drain is making my life horrible!!

Hi All,
I am using mini for the past one year and for the past 2-3 months am facing a lot of battery drain in my mobile. Before that also my battery drained quickly but now it happens in a drastic manner. Previously i used to have my battery life as 7-8 hours with full internet activities and games.
But, i am able to keep my mobile up to 5 hours only by stopping everything that runs and disabling internet and also making brightness to zero.
And one main issue is, when i am putting in charge, it gains 20-30 % in 10 mins and when i take it from charge, it reduces 5-10 % immediately and when i make a call or something it again drops 15-20 %. With this battery i am unable to predict how much time my battery will live before next charge.
Please help me out !! I will be grateful to you if u can help..
Just an update. Mt battery went down from 65 % to 16 % in a single phone call for 10 mins. Please help me guys. this thing freaks me out !!!

premsurya said:
Hi All,
I am using mini for the past one year and for the past 2-3 months am facing a lot of battery drain in my mobile. Before that also my battery drained quickly but now it happens in a drastic manner. Previously i used to have my battery life as 7-8 hours with full internet activities and games.
But, i am able to keep my mobile up to 5 hours only by stopping everything that runs and disabling internet and also making brightness to zero.
And one main issue is, when i am putting in charge, it gains 20-30 % in 10 mins and when i take it from charge, it reduces 5-10 % immediately and when i make a call or something it again drops 15-20 %. With this battery i am unable to predict how much time my battery will live before next charge.
Please help me out !! I will be grateful to you if u can help..
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Maybe try to recalibrate your battery. I did that to mine and the life is much better!

Thank u friend ! tried that too. But no luck !!

Try some custom rom...might help...
If not, then you need a new one...
And remember, it is advisable to use your phone and let battery fall from 100 to 0% (or say 5-10) quite often...I.e. a full discharge...
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premsurya said:
Thank u friend ! tried that too. But no luck !!
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Sorry to hear that. I hope something works!

Maybe its time to buy new batery beacuse batery hawe limited circle chargin if you chargin you batery 2 times per day she is hardly used

a.cid said:
Try some custom rom...might help...
If not, then you need a new one...
And remember, it is advisable to use your phone and let battery fall from 100 to 0% (or say 5-10) quite often...I.e. a full discharge...
drunk-texted from my dkxjsovzzzzz
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No no no.
It's a Lithium Ion battery, do not let it fully discharge, it's better to charge it before it's fully drained.
That said, if you deleted battery stats, charged it up and it still has such drain, you may need to request a new battery.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
You don't have to read all of it, just look at the the little boxes with info in them and see there how it is better to frequently charge your battery than it is to fully discharge.
It also shows, temperature is very important, so don't put it near any heating things (or laptops). You might not want to overclock too much either.

luki2411 said:
Maybe its time to buy new batery beacuse batery hawe limited circle chargin if you chargin you batery 2 times per day she is hardly used
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Bought a new battery of 1500 mAH from dealxtreame. results are not so different. But i am using that one also for more than 5 months.

a.cid said:
Try some custom rom...might help...
If not, then you need a new one...
And remember, it is advisable to use your phone and let battery fall from 100 to 0% (or say 5-10) quite often...I.e. a full discharge...
drunk-texted from my dkxjsovzzzzz
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I feel stock rom is better in terms of battery than custom one's. tried a lot like cyanogen,andro-id.. after that came back to stock gb. did a last official update last month i think. could it be a problem ?

LeQuazz said:
No no no.
It's a Lithium Ion battery, do not let it fully discharge, it's better to charge it before it's fully drained.
That said, if you deleted battery stats, charged it up and it still has such drain, you may need to request a new battery.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
You don't have to read all of it, just look at the the little boxes with info in them and see there how it is better to frequently charge your battery than it is to fully discharge.
It also shows, temperature is very important, so don't put it near any heating things (or laptops). You might not want to overclock too much either.
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Thank u friend. i tried with two batteries and both of them are lives for same time approxly.. hence am feeling whether thats a defective phone or some software glitch !!

I too had that problem. But then I switched to Andro-ID. Life is less frustrating now.

premsurya said:
I feel stock rom is better in terms of battery than custom one's. tried a lot like cyanogen,andro-id.. after that came back to stock gb. did a last official update last month i think. could it be a problem ?
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We fit users also had an update (ddkt1, 2.3.6), which had a horrible battery life...and if we flashed any custom rom on it (I.e. using it as baseband), then the custom rom also gave poor life...
Because of that, I myself, am using an older stock rom (ddkq5, 2.3.4) as baseband...
So maybe that is the problem?
Ask other mini users from your region about which baseband they prefer for battery...
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a.cid said:
We fit users also had an update (ddkt1, 2.3.6), which had a horrible battery life...and if we flashed any custom rom on it (I.e. using it as baseband), then the custom rom also gave poor life...
Because of that, I myself, am using an older stock rom (ddkq5, 2.3.4) as baseband...
So maybe that is the problem?
Ask other mini users from your region about which baseband they prefer for battery...
drunk-texted from my dkxjsovzzzzz
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I'm also facing a similar problem, battery life really bad. I'm on CM7.2 Stable with the kernel provided with the ROM. Here is the link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697912
and my Baseband version is DDKT2, 2.3.7
Which baseband do you recommend?
Dude, do you have the DDKQ5 firmware? The hotfile links don't seem to work.

My mini also suffers from this kind of problem, from past 2½ months (or more).
And I suspect, the custom Rom or the battery mod tweak, by sterricson.
My pc is dead, so I couldn't Flash stock Rom.
Current Rom: Latest CMX from squadzone
Base: KPK 2.3.4
Please help us out.

i agree, its better to use stock rom(or stock-rom-like-customroms) it has better battery life than cm7 roms

Set a screen off cpu profile to under clock at max 122mhz min 122mhz. Your phone will go into deep sleep, and save you lots of juice. Also, use Juice defender to control mobile data, and that will also save lots of battery
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U might try reseting phone to its factory settings, if u don't have anything important on you're phone... It worked for me...

Winston O'Boogie said:
Set a screen off cpu profile to under clock at max 122mhz min 122mhz. Your phone will go into deep sleep, and save you lots of juice. Also, use Juice defender to control mobile data, and that will also save lots of battery
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Your suggestion is right, but the battery is !ABNORMAL!
Just let me explain,
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Phone-ON scenario:
1. Charged to 100% - 4200v
2. In just a minute, battery drops to 90%(egprs data on)
3. For Next 30m - battery 51%
4. In 10m battery Rapidly drops to 14%
5. After 10m, Battery drains slowly, now @ 4%
6. @ 1% after 24m.
Phone-OFF scenario: here phone is OFF
1. Plugged-in, shows directly 10% battery available
2. Battery charging @ 2%/sec till 50% within 10min(estimate)
3. Now the battery is charging as usual but a bit faster
4. @80% battery it's charging as normal.
5. Got 100% in 2 hrs(estimate)
6. At last, I Switched ON the phone. Voila battery 67%(much less than 3. But actual it's 100%
Battery HEALTH: good? :banghead:
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First, try re-calibrate your battery using batterycalibrator. If you fail, then using CWM -> advanced -> wipe battery stats. Its working for me
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Do a pumb charge before calibrate ur battery
1.Charge to 100%
2.unplug the charger then plug again immidiately
3. Wait for 100% again and do it again and again until ur phone show full almost instantly after plug in.

Just ordered a 1500mAh

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3X-New-1500...577377?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43b079be21
Ordered it today. Posted the link so you guys can have a look and see if you want a pair as well. My friend bought a pair of 1500mAh ones and is having some pretty awesome results so I had to order one myself too. Not sure if these are the same ones. Must be since I can't find any other 1500mAh for the Ace.
Posted the link so you guys can give it a shot too. I'll be reviewing as well as the guys on other threads and batteries to let you all know their performance as soon as I get them.
EDIT: I just got them. Using one and just came with 50% charge. Here are some pictures.
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Funny fact; the battery sticker is on the opposite side of the battery. So when you put it on the phone, you get the back side xD
My Review
This battery's a winner. Lasts a little more than stock and holds charge like a champ. Something I just noticed though, unlike stock, it gives you the 100% performance. Meaning, when it's discharged it will literally be completely discharged. Your phone won't even boot. Takes longer to charge (logically) and a little longer to discharge.
I won't bother posting screen shots or anything because everyone's battery varies. Everyone uses their phone in a different way so it won't be the same for anyone.
Either way, this battery's awesome. I highly recommend it.
EDIT: Here's an extra, the battery meter is completely accurate. Still no 1% drops or increments, but the drops happen when they're supposed to and give you literally the battery left.

SuperAce609 said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3X-New-1500...577377?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43b079be21
Ordered it today. Posted the link so you guys can have a look and see if you want a pair as well. My friend bought a pair of 1500mAh ones and is having some pretty awesome results so I had to order one myself too. Not sure if these are the same ones. Must be since I can't find any other 1500mAh for the Ace.
Posted the link so you guys can give it a shot too. I'll be reviewing as well as the guys on other threads and batteries to let you all know their performance as soon as I get them.
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They dont deliver in my town
Sent from my GALAXY Ace

what about the 2000mAh ones?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gold-2450...150?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d028ce9ee
Too good to be true?

paradoxiumwind said:
what about the 2000mAh ones?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gold-2450...150?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d028ce9ee
Too good to be true?
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Those are fake. Read other threads.

SuperAce609 said:
Those are fake. Read other threads.
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"read other threads"
links to none.
very helpful, thanks.

paradoxiumwind said:
"read other threads"
links to none.
very helpful, thanks.
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use the search bar , thats whats for.There are plenty of battery threads

paradoxiumwind said:
"read other threads"
links to none.
very helpful, thanks.
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Waitwaitwaitwait. HOLD UP. I gotta link you too? Wtf?
I'm reserving my comments for the sake of the thread.

SuperAce609 said:
Waitwaitwaitwait. HOLD UP. I gotta link you too? Wtf?
I'm reserving my comments for the sake of the thread.
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Searching these forums is probably the worst thing anyone can do, it is absolutely packed with newbies like myself except they seem incapable of coherent thought processes and typing skills, and reading the forums in general is a headache in itself because of this, a little common courtesy with a link to a specific thread in mind wouldn't have been too much to ask, but whatever, I don't care.
I sprung for one of these 1500mAh batteries last night on ebay, cheap, but i've written down how much power I can get from my current 1350mAh 3-day old battery and plan to compare with the 1500mAh one when it arrives so i'll update the thread with the info so anyone considering knows it's worth it or not.

i think it's kinda expensive for such battery?
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i forgot to see if that's 3X battery.. soryy

paradoxiumwind said:
Searching these forums is probably the worst thing anyone can do, it is absolutely packed with newbies like myself except they seem incapable of coherent thought processes and typing skills, and reading the forums in general is a headache in itself because of this, a little common courtesy with a link to a specific thread in mind wouldn't have been too much to ask, but whatever, I don't care.
I sprung for one of these 1500mAh batteries last night on ebay, cheap, but i've written down how much power I can get from my current 1350mAh 3-day old battery and plan to compare with the 1500mAh one when it arrives so i'll update the thread with the info so anyone considering knows it's worth it or not.
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So then there'll be two reviews going on in this thread? Use that same post. Too bad you couldn't post second though. Could've been a double review one after the other. That would've been sweeetttt...

kevintangi said:
i think it's kinda expensive for such battery?
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i forgot to see if that's 3X battery.. soryy
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Lol yeah. AND a charger. Pretty handy.

My 1500mAh battery came today, I only got the 1x but the sticker looks identical to the one in the OPs eBay link, it's charging now and then I will check the values and give an update.
This is the exact one I bought (eBay UK): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221074982744
Edit- Results:
Fully Charged on official Samsung 3-day old 1350mAh battery
Extreme Profile: 43hr 25min
Balanced Profile: 40hr 49min
Normal Profile: 34hr 5min
Fully Charged on 1500mAh replacemenet battery
Extreme Profile: 45hr 14min - 1hr 49min difference
Balanced Profile: 44hr 19min - 3hr 30min difference
Normal Profile: 35hr 30min - 1hr 25min difference
Note:
"Profile" refers to the Dolphin Browser HD addon "Dolphin Battery Saver" (Not very customizable but I like the browser and the addon is clean and simple)
Is there a more accurate battery indicator I can use as a benchmark tester anywhere? Either way it seems it gives a little bit more life, worth it for £4? Depends on how long it lasts before it starts losing the charge faster or whatever.. do Li-Ion batteries do that? Any battery experts care to comment, is this an acceptable battery life increase? It is only 1350mAh to 1500mAh so I wasn't expecting like 12 hours extra or anything.

paradoxiumwind said:
My 1500mAh battery came today, I only got the 1x but the sticker looks identical to the one in the OPs eBay link, it's charging now and then I will check the values and give an update.
This is the exact one I bought (eBay UK): http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221074982744
Edit- Results:
Fully Charged on official Samsung 3-day old 1350mAh battery
Extreme Profile: 43hr 25min
Balanced Profile: 40hr 49min
Normal Profile: 34hr 5min
Fully Charged on 1500mAh replacemenet battery
Extreme Profile: 45hr 14min - 1hr 49min difference
Balanced Profile: 44hr 19min - 3hr 30min difference
Normal Profile: 35hr 30min - 1hr 25min difference
Note:
"Profile" refers to the Dolphin Browser HD addon "Dolphin Battery Saver" (Not very customizable but I like the browser and the addon is clean and simple)
Is there a more accurate battery indicator I can use as a benchmark tester anywhere? Either way it seems it gives a little bit more life, worth it for £4? Depends on how long it lasts before it starts losing the charge faster or whatever.. do Li-Ion batteries do that? Any battery experts care to comment, is this an acceptable battery life increase? It is only 1350mAh to 1500mAh so I wasn't expecting like 12 hours extra or anything.
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Yeah, you're only supposed to get a little boost. It's only 150mAh more than the original. But the battery life completely depends on the usage of the phone.
What I do is just use the phone normally and keep checking the Battery Usage graph in the android settings. I don't use any other 3rd party apps.
And yeah, you're supposed to completely drain it before you charge it. Then when you do charge it, charge it to 100% nonstop.

SuperAce609 said:
Yeah, you're only supposed to get a little boost. It's only 150mAh more than the original. But the battery life completely depends on the usage of the phone.
What I do is just use the phone normally and keep checking the Battery Usage graph in the android settings. I don't use any other 3rd party apps.
And yeah, you're supposed to completely drain it before you charge it. Then when you do charge it, charge it to 100% nonstop.
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According to this article on ArsTechnica (which as far as I know is pretty reputable) it says you shouldn't let it drop below about 20% before fully charging it again, it's a pretty interesting read, take a look:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/02/ask-ars-what-is-the-best-way-to-use-an-li-ion-battery/
Another page suggests that charging a Li-Ion battery should be done with the device turned off, as the device can confuse the battery.
A portable device must be turned off during charge. This allows the battery to reach the set threshold voltage unhindered, and enables terminating charge on low current. A parasitic load confuses the charger by depressing the battery voltage and preventing the current in the saturation stage to drop low. A battery may be fully charged, but the prevailing conditions prompt a continued charge. This causes undue battery stress and compromises safety.
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http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries/

I've also purchased a 1500 mAh battery, but it isn't the one you're reviewing here. If somebody's interested I could open a new thread.

im looking for more battery life.
im considering these two. what you think
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-1500mah...ccessories&hash=item1c24dd5854#ht_3362wt_1270
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gold-2450mA...087998?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cc8cfa07e

hshaikh said:
im looking for more battery life.
im considering these two. what you think
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-1500mah...ccessories&hash=item1c24dd5854#ht_3362wt_1270
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gold-2450mA...087998?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cc8cfa07e
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I'd go for the 1500 mAh one. The golden one has been proved to be a hoax.

Have the same ones, awesome.
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paradoxiumwind said:
According to this article on ArsTechnica (which as far as I know is pretty reputable) it says you shouldn't let it drop below about 20% before fully charging it again, it's a pretty interesting read, take a look:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/02/ask-ars-what-is-the-best-way-to-use-an-li-ion-battery/
Another page suggests that charging a Li-Ion battery should be done with the device turned off, as the device can confuse the battery.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries/
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Well my friend, on the Ace, not dropping below 20% while trying to make a charge last a whole day seems almost practically impossible.
I've read that article before. Never really followed what it said and look at what happened to my battery. Dies after 40 mins with 3G on after a full (100%) charge xD

The charger appears to be designed to have a adapter to other plugs, is this the case?
I need the EU plug, for 220 V, can I buy that one and use it?

[Q] Battery life with XXLSZ ROM

I just flashed the Ultimate JB 4.1.2 XXLSZ v5.2 ROM. I had the previous Ultimate 4.1.2 XXLSC v5.1 before.
Is it just my imagination or is the battery drain higher with the later ROM? I think my pattern of usage is roughly the same but get the impression the battery percentage goes down noticeably quicker that previously.
Has anyone got any similar experience to share?
Thanks
Trevor

If you just flashed it then give it a day or two... it will be scanning and caching a lot of things... also do some restarts. you should notice a big improvement to smoothness and battery usage after about 2h with it. I have ulitmate running atm. and it has better performance and battery life then official.

Thanks for the reply. This is after having run it for a few days. However, will monitor for a day or two more and if it seems the same, maybe I'll try going back to XXLSC.
Trevor
XxPixX said:
If you just flashed it then give it a day or two... it will be scanning and caching a lot of things... also do some restarts. you should notice a big improvement to smoothness and battery usage after about 2h with it. I have ulitmate running atm. and it has better performance and battery life then official.
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sacentre said:
Thanks for the reply. This is after having run it for a few days. However, will monitor for a day or two more and if it seems the same, maybe I'll try going back to XXLSC.
Trevor
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If was the same with me. Fast battery draining for the few days. But now it's okay. Very good ROm, awesome speed.
But i have other problem.
Once a day, or maybe every 2 days my phone (N7000 with 5.2 XXLSZ ROM) just turns off. And can't turn it ON, unless I put the battery out and back in. What could be the problem?

Im using LSZ (Ultimate) and prior to this I was using LSC (Ultimate) and I am getting much better battery life with LSZ.
When I say much better I mean about 18 - 24 hrs (including 7-8 hrs sleep) Which might not sound good to you guys, But My battery is worn out and desperately needs replacing, so 18 - 24 hrs is good for me

Zakelinho said:
If was the same with me. Fast battery draining for the few days. But now it's okay. Very good ROm, awesome speed.
But i have other problem.
Once a day, or maybe every 2 days my phone (N7000 with 5.2 XXLSZ ROM) just turns off. And can't turn it ON, unless I put the battery out and back in. What could be the problem?
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This you may call deep sleep or sudden death. There are several posts on this issue. You can try this one, in recovery mode select advance and boot into recovery and then reboot system. Second one is flash bootloader by eybee1970. Third is in recovery do a backup and then restore. Fourth is flash philz latest fixed2 kernel.
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dsmas said:
This you may call deep sleep or sudden death. There are several posts on this issue. You can try this one, in recovery mode select advance and boot into recovery and then reboot system. Second one is flash bootloader by eybee1970. Third is in recovery do a backup and then restore. Fourth is flash philz latest fixed2 kernel.
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+1
btw deepsleep is good, you mean sleap of death (sod) , which is deepsleep that usually can't wake up from. So in a sense, anyways confusing terms this sleep lol ZzZzz

i m on Thaidai v1.3 wif kernel philz 4.63... wifi n data permanently on...
battery can last near to 12hrs wif abt 2hrs screentime... i m satisfied wif this performance... but when i m asleep 8hrs at nite... the battery can drop from 100% to 80-84%... average drain of 2% /hr when the phone is doing nothing at all... for this i hav already uninstall watever samsung bloatwares n kill off active apps b4 gg to slp... but it aint helping at all...
anyone care to share if this is normal??

it happens to me when the wifi is on.. with wifi off i get 2% drain during sleep time

What I have noticed is that LSZ with PhilZ latest Kernel behaves very oddly on terms of battery management. First thing I noticed is that no longer charges battery beyond 80% of its voltage. Also, suddenly drops charge levels between restarts. Do anyone know why this could be? Check out my screenshot
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ive been using paranoid android 3.10 before and now using this just because i want to go back to stock and i dont see any difference in battery usage. mine last for 12 hours with normal usage (web browsing/facebook/tapatalk/email/sms/etc).

battery life is good just as any official rom

FreemanAMG said:
What I have noticed is that LSZ with PhilZ latest Kernel behaves very oddly on terms of battery management. First thing I noticed is that no longer charges battery beyond 80% of its voltage. Also, suddenly drops charge levels between restarts. Do anyone know why this could be? Check out my screenshot
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your battery is over its best life, get replacement, if under 6months old and is original Samsung claim warrantee

I think the trick is to keep using the phone for a couple days and let it settle (caching and what not) my battery life in the beginning was abysmal. Now 3 days in, it works just as when I was on ICS, i.e. gets me through a day easily (30%) by the time i get home.

I have done little playing around with various ROMs as well. From the stock ICS, I updated it to official XXLSZ 4.1.2 release by Samsung. Multi window, Smartstay, pop-up play etc worked like charm - but the only trouble was below average battery life. After couple of days, I found myself on eBay searching for high capacity battery packs for N1. I tried few other ROMs as well - here is a quick synopsis of what all have tried so far:
•Samsung 4.1.2 XXLSZ Coocked ROMs: BurtROM, AllianceROM, Pristine and Ultimate are worth mentioning whom I have tried. Battery life is pretty much the same as what it is with stock XXLSZ - may be 10% better but no more. Ultimate ROM was best of them all.
•Custome 4.2.2 ROMs : Tried CM10.1 CarbonROM, PA. SlimBean, and Stunner2. No Samsung experience and need to compromise on original Samsung feel. Basically, you'll not get any feature of Note1. But they are very much stable. Of them all, Slimbean is the one which is giving me amazing battery life. Its almost 40% more than stock. With Stock, my battery is every day recharge, but with SlimBean, its spilling to second day.
Then I went on to try JonROM, and stock UBLSF 4.1.2 ROM. Currently running stock UBLSF and its second day. First experience wasn't very good - though the phone was used heavily. It lasted for 18hrs with 25% gone during sleep time of 8 hrs. Battery drain while browsing was very good with 1% drain every 2-3 mins. JonROM was much better in performance but its heavily stripped - I need stock email app or some free app to handle my office emails and calendar. if JonROM gets stock email app - I'll switch back to JonROM.
All in all, from my experience of all this flashing and ROM trying - UBLSF is definitely much better than XXLSZ. If you don't want Note features, use Slimbean. There aren't any cooked ROMs on UBSLF other than heavily stripped down JonROM [all Note S-Pen goodies are there], so use it if you are fine with it because it giving better battery life

FreemanAMG said:
What I have noticed is that LSZ with PhilZ latest Kernel behaves very oddly on terms of battery management. First thing I noticed is that no longer charges battery beyond 80% of its voltage. Also, suddenly drops charge levels between restarts. Do anyone know why this could be? Check out my screenshot
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Maybe go back to ICS or GB and check there? If not get a newer Battery