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How dependent is gear?

Hey guys, this may be a dumb question but I'm not that familiar with smart watches. I know you currently need the GN 3 for full function but can the gear function at all without first syncing?
The reason I ask is because I want one but have a GN 2. I know eventually they will be updated to sync with gear but not sure I can wait. If I get the gear now, would I still be able to use it as a watch? I thought I saw an option to set time and date and another option to sync with phone. I also assume camera can be used independently.
I wouldn't mind getting it now if I knew the clock itself would work and wait for the update for the rest of the features. Just trying to see what I could do without syncing watch.
Sorry if this seems idiotic.
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koreankabachy said:
Hey guys, this may be a dumb question but I'm not that familiar with smart watches. I know you currently need the GN 3 for full function but can the gear function at all without first syncing?
The reason I ask is because I want one but have a GN 2. I know eventually they will be updated to sync with gear but not sure I can wait. If I get the gear now, would I still be able to use it as a watch? I thought I saw an option to set time and date and another option to sync with phone. I also assume camera can be used independently.
I wouldn't mind getting it now if I knew the clock itself would work and wait for the update for the rest of the features. Just trying to see what I could do without syncing watch.
Sorry if this seems idiotic.
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It would be a very heavy regular watch with a camera. I wouldn't do it, especially at its current price. Just wait till the watch drops price and you can afford both it and the Note 3.

It has to sync with a compatible device at least once before it will even display the time. After that it seems to keep the time on it's own but the initial syncing is what sets the time etc..

Well that sucks... Wasn't planning on getting the GN 3 and don't know when we will get the 4.3 update on GN 2. Like the looks of watch and as long as I could get the time on it, I could live with it until the update.
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Note 2 leak 4.3 now available.... Chk Out the same
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koreankabachy said:
Well that sucks... Wasn't planning on getting the GN 3 and don't know when we will get the 4.3 update on GN 2. Like the looks of watch and as long as I could get the time on it, I could live with it until the update.
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I read somewhere someone stating that they had loaded the gear manager software on their S4 with 4.2 and it would pair but that several features didn't work. The app is available in the Samsung store. you could give it a shot and see how it goes. If it will pair you will at least have the time. I don't recall what other features were and were not working tho, sorry.

As far as I know... Someone else with a GN 2 tried to download form the Samsung app store but was unable to do so. Not sure the 4.3 asop roms are the same/work to sync gear. Been keeping my eye on the GN 2 forms but haven't seen any post about a Rom working to sync with gear.
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koreankabachy said:
Hey guys, this may be a dumb question but I'm not that familiar with smart watches. I know you currently need the GN 3 for full function but can the gear function at all without first syncing?
The reason I ask is because I want one but have a GN 2. I know eventually they will be updated to sync with gear but not sure I can wait. If I get the gear now, would I still be able to use it as a watch? I thought I saw an option to set time and date and another option to sync with phone. I also assume camera can be used independently.
I wouldn't mind getting it now if I knew the clock itself would work and wait for the update for the rest of the features. Just trying to see what I could do without syncing watch.
Sorry if this seems idiotic.
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I was like you, I have gs3 and bought the the gear today as couldn't wait any longer! I would have been happy if I was able to use it as a watch, however it worked fine with my gs3. I downloaded Galaxy Manager from Samsung app store and it paired without any issues ... Some of things aren't working, but majority is (changing clock faces, seeing contacts, calling, answering calls, taking pictures and videos - transferring them to my phone, pedometer, etc all working great; s voice, weather app and installing any new apps from Samsung's app store arent ). Hope this was helpful, any questions please let me know.

Sdr001 said:
I was like you, I have gs3 and bought the the gear today as couldn't wait any longer! I would have been happy if I was able to use it as a watch, however it worked fine with my gs3. I downloaded Galaxy Manager from Samsung app store and it paired without any issues ... Some of things aren't working, but majority is (changing clock faces, seeing contacts, calling, answering calls, taking pictures and videos - transferring them to my phone, pedometer, etc all working great; s voice, weather app and installing any new apps from Samsung's app store arent ). Hope this was helpful, any questions please let me know.
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Gs3? Thought they weren't syncing with those... If they are, that's good to know as my wife has the gs3. Will have to look into this.
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It works some with the apk listed in main gg thread. Using it now on the note 2
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Phandroid says price drop means a failure

It never stops amazing me Phandroid reports the price of Galaxy Gear maybe going down and this is failure.
Prices of all devices drop after several months did the reporters at Phandroid forget this fact? It is one of the reasons being a early adopter is not always wise.
This is the first Smart Watch to have dedicated forum on this site. Is that a sign of failure?
I am sick of people saying how badly the watch is doing.

AstroDigital said:
It never stops amazing me Phandroid reports the price of Galaxy Gear maybe going down and this is failure.
Prices of all devices drop after several months did the reporters at Phandroid forget this fact? It is one of the reasons being a early adopter is not always wise.
This is the first Smart Watch to have dedicated forum on this site. Is that a sign of failure?
I am sick of people saying how badly the watch is doing.
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sometimes it does means failure. but we have to ask ourselves if Samsung plan was actually to make Gear a 'non failure' device or they just wanted to get it first on the market. Pebble or Sony Smartwatch 2 are far from what I would have call a "smart watch".
either way - launching gear was a failure. compatible with only Note 3 at the beginning, terrible battery life, no external notifications, lack of software etc. it was limited on purpose, but for no reason. gear is powerful enough to be working with all modern smartphones. so yes, i judge the device on the release day - why would i care what it will become in few weeks/months? stock Gear is **** and the only reason why i keep it is because i can use it the way i want it to - not some korean creeps designing my menu..
thank you f0mey for saving this product!

hurdlejade said:
sometimes it does means failure. but we have to ask ourselves if Samsung plan was actually to make Gear a 'non failure' device or they just wanted to get it first on the market. Pebble or Sony Smartwatch 2 are far from what I would have call a "smart watch".
either way - launching gear was a failure. compatible with only Note 3 at the beginning, terrible battery life, no external notifications, lack of software etc. it was limited on purpose, but for no reason. gear is powerful enough to be working with all modern smartphones. so yes, i judge the device on the release day - why would i care what it will become in few weeks/months? stock Gear is **** and the only reason why i keep it is because i can use it the way i want it to - not some korean creeps designing my menu..
thank you f0mey for saving this product!
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Still have not used or tried the Null Rom, it is my understanding all it does is replace the Touchwiz interface.
Gapps means nothing to me because my Note does not support bluetooth tethering.
.... but that is off my own Topic, still believe if the price drops it is mainly due to normal life cycle.
Have not bought a device yet that I could not get at least $100 cheaper in 3 months, the Gear is 3 months old.

it's completely normal for all electronic devices to go cheaper with time.
null does not replace touchwiz interface, it allows you to use any interface of your choice. you like nova launcher you can use it. you prefer google experience? the world is yours. it allows bluetooth tethering, two way sync, direct dial shortcut and way way more. if you haven't tried it yet then maybe it's just not for you (surprisingly there are people out there who are happy with stock thing ).
i use my gear - for other than notifications, time and calling/camera - for viewing agenda, to-do list, displaying some text on it, calculator and more.. and nothing of it could be achieved without null.

hurdlejade said:
i use my gear - for other than notifications, time and calling/camera - for viewing agenda, to-do list, displaying some text on it, calculator and more.. and nothing of it could be achieved without null.
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before i used null i had root and could install and use all the things you mentioned above. i love null but just saying that it was still great without it and better with it.

Or it simply means there trying to clear stock for the next release of the gear which is expected to be in 3 weeks.

fOmey said:
Or it simply means there trying to clear stock for the next release of the gear which is expected to be in 3 weeks.
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so glad i bought mine 38 days ago for 299 LOL
i dont get mad about this kind of stuff. if i did i would never buy anything with concerns that it will be cheaper in a month

fletch33 said:
so glad i bought mine 38 days ago for 299 LOL
i dont get mad about this kind of stuff. if i did i would never buy anything with concerns that it will be cheaper in a month
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No kidding.
I paid $299 for mine the day they where released but I love the thing.
If you worried about things like TVs/cameras/stereo equipment etc. going down in price you ill never buy anything.

I don't know where all these rumors are coming from for a galaxy gear 2 already being released. That's just downright stupid... The note 3 and gear were just released a few months ago! The things still brand new and the N3 is still the best phone on the market right now.
Releases are done typically once a year... hence iphones, Samsung galaxy devices etc... its not every 3 months...
You guys are basically saying they would be making three different models per year if they are releasing the GG2 this fast... then another 4 months the Gear 3? Waayyy to fast.
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Joe92T said:
I don't know where all these rumors are coming from for a galaxy gear 2 already being released. That's just downright stupid... The note 3 and gear were just released a few months ago! The things still brand new and the N3 is still the best phone on the market right now.
Releases are done typically once a year... hence iphones, Samsung galaxy devices etc... its not every 3 months...
You guys are basically saying they would be making three different models per year if they are releasing the GG2 this fast... then another 4 months the Gear 3? Waayyy to fast.
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i understand your logic and thoughts on this however wearables are very new and could be updated at first much faster to address things they just didnt know until they released what they thought was the right mixture of style, performance, apps, etc, etc...
i consider myself generally an early adopter and look at this:
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although i am in the early adopter category most of the time i sometimes want to read and see what happens with something before i jump (usually depends on cost) and Gear was just really about is it really useful.
here is my opinion:
1. i saw some usefulness in it but not day 1
2. i finally had to know what it is all about myself and so i bought one actually expecting to return it since i have 30 days as a BB platinum 30 day no restocking fee customer
3. after 3 days and finding this section of XDA i knew i was keeping it
4. i can see where improvements could be made
5. i do not in any way regret my purchase even at $299/US
6. i personally would LOVE a new edition
7. the new edition would have to really prove itself as having enough to get me to upgrade
8. even if the next edition doesnt motivate me i will probably upgrade because thats just what i do
dont let new models even if its 4 months later upset you and instead appreciate what you have and decide if the newer model comes out in a date faster then what you feel is fair.
as long as Samsung continues to support this model for a decent amount of time then what difference does it make that a different model is released and if it works for you as it is then you can continue to enjoy it

Joe92T said:
I don't know where all these rumors are coming from for a galaxy gear 2 already being released. That's just downright stupid... The note 3 and gear were just released a few months ago! The things still brand new and the N3 is still the best phone on the market right now.
Releases are done typically once a year... hence iphones, Samsung galaxy devices etc... its not every 3 months...
You guys are basically saying they would be making three different models per year if they are releasing the GG2 this fast... then another 4 months the Gear 3? Waayyy to fast.
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May not be released in February, although the announcement of the new gear 2 could easily be made in late February.
HERE.

Joe92T said:
I don't know where all these rumors are coming from for a galaxy gear 2 already being released. That's just downright stupid... The note 3 and gear were just released a few months ago! The things still brand new and the N3 is still the best phone on the market right now.
Releases are done typically once a year... hence iphones, Samsung galaxy devices etc... its not every 3 months...
You guys are basically saying they would be making three different models per year if they are releasing the GG2 this fast... then another 4 months the Gear 3? Waayyy to fast.
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The galaxy gear was released Sept 4th. Thats almost 6 months ago!! Samsung releases 2 flagship phones a year. Thats once every 6 months. The S4 came out in march. 6 months later the note 3 in late Sept. The S5 is to be unveiled Feb 24th and probably released early March. Why wouldn't Samsung release the Galaxy Gear 2 then? I bet you they do!!!!!!!! Samsung is hurting right now for pieces of the cellphone market. They've got to pull out all their tricks.

AstroDigital said:
It never stops amazing me Phandroid reports the price of Galaxy Gear maybe going down and this is failure.
Prices of all devices drop after several months did the reporters at Phandroid forget this fact? It is one of the reasons being a early adopter is not always wise.
This is the first Smart Watch to have dedicated forum on this site. Is that a sign of failure?
I am sick of people saying how badly the watch is doing.
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Don't be so emotional about a watch. Samsung definitely over priced this thing.
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barondebxl said:
Don't be so emotional about a watch. Samsung definitely over priced this thing.
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Pricing is relative. I paid heaps to get Google glass. First gen is always expensive
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I think Samsung will continue to support the GG when GG2 is released be silly for them not to.
What will intrest me is if the GG2 Firmware & software can be ported over to the GG.

google glass is not a widely available consumer product yet, it's meant for developers (and celebrities , unlike gear which you can get in almost any electronic/phone store.

barondebxl said:
Don't be so emotional about a watch. Samsung definitely over priced this thing.
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Could be, likely true.
.... but they are all over priced when you have to get something first.

Brendo said:
Pricing is relative. I paid heaps to get Google glass. First gen is always expensive
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Its subjective.....right. That's why the majority feels like this thing its overpriced.
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440bro said:
Samsung is hurting right now for pieces of the cellphone market. They've got to pull out all their tricks.
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Care to extrapolate on that? Samsung is, bay far, the largest manufacture of mobiles. How are they "Hurting"?

440bro said:
The galaxy gear was released Sept 4th. Thats almost 6 months ago!! Samsung releases 2 flagship phones a year. Thats once every 6 months. The S4 came out in march. 6 months later the note 3 in late Sept. The S5 is to be unveiled Feb 24th and probably released early March. Why wouldn't Samsung release the Galaxy Gear 2 then? I bet you they do!!!!!!!! Samsung is hurting right now for pieces of the cellphone market. They've got to pull out all their tricks.
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Samsung is hurting how exactly? Do u have any evidence or anything like that? Cause last time I checked they were the largest mobile manufacturers in the world.
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Only 14 Non-Samsung Apps Available on Tizen?

I'm kind of shocked at how few apps are available for Tizen in Samsung Apps. Not counting clocks there are 14 and even Samsung's own ChatOn is missing. Does everyone who upgraded to Tizen show the same apps I do (listed below)? Is this all there is for the GG2 also or is some kind of restriction in place that's only displaying some Tizen apps for GG1 users? I'm hoping it's the latter and more apps show up soon.
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Its almost the same apps available with android, except CNN, Line, News Republic, golf apps, run tastic and other useless apps. Still, Im keeping android unless theres a way to get back to android after testing Tizen.

I'm pretty sure there are some apps available in Samsung store (as opposed to just through gear manager)?
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Brendo said:
I'm pretty sure there are some apps available in Samsung store (as opposed to just through gear manager)?
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When you access Samsung Apps through Gear Manager it filters out all but what's available for or already installed on your Gear. In moving to Tizen I lost:
Peel Remote
Path
CNN
Glympse
TripIt
Vivino
Hopefully they or similar apps will be back. Samsung may have burned bridges with app developers by overselling Android on the GG1 only for them to develop something no one used (based on limited sales) and then became throw away with the move to Tizen.
So what I posted is what's available for everyone regardless of region? I was kind of hoping since my CSC was mismatched there may have been more apps and I just couldn't see them.

BarryH_GEG said:
I'm kind of shocked at how few apps are available for Tizen in Samsung Apps. Not counting clocks there are 14 and even Samsung's own ChatOn is missing. Does everyone who upgraded to Tizen show the same apps I do (listed below)? Is this all there is for the GG2 also or is some kind of restriction in place that's only displaying some Tizen apps for GG1 users? I'm hoping it's the latter and more apps show up soon.
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Thanks for this but for me its a day too late. If I saw this before I upgraded to Tizen I woudn't have. I saw a different list on another website that said lots of apps are available and they aren't.

NakedFaerie said:
Thanks for this but for me its a day too late. If I saw this before I upgraded to Tizen I woudn't have. I saw a different list on another website that said lots of apps are available and they aren't.
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Thanks for that. I have a U.S. Gear with a UK ROM on it. So either my device being a GG1, being from the U.S. where Tizen isn't even released yet, or the UK ROM potentially being a victim of app release timing, are probably affecting what's offered in Samsung Apps. Hopefully more apps will be exposed or available soon. Moving the GG1 to Tizen adds several hundred thousand users so maybe that'll entice developer's. Time will tell.

There are tons more apps for the Gear 2 Neo. I have that. I'm in the US and also still have my Gear. As mentioned before, no update for US Gears yet. So, since I have the Gear 2 Neo with lots of apps and more each day, I'm in no rush for my Gear to get updated to Tizen.

kbboykin said:
There are tons more apps for the Gear 2 Neo. I have that. I'm in the US and also still have my Gear. As mentioned before, no update for US Gears yet. So, since I have the Gear 2 Neo with lots of apps and more each day, I'm in no rush for my Gear to get updated to Tizen.
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Why are the app stores inconsistent if the OS is now the same? So frustrating sometimes.

Gear 2 apps not supported by Gear 1
BarryH_GEG said:
Thanks for that. I have a U.S. Gear with a UK ROM on it. So either my device being a GG1, being from the U.S. where Tizen isn't even released yet, or the UK ROM potentially being a victim of app release timing, are probably affecting what's offered in Samsung Apps. Hopefully more apps will be exposed or available soon. Moving the GG1 to Tizen adds several hundred thousand users so maybe that'll entice developer's. Time will tell.
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Again- we are left behind.
I confirmed this with Samsung Support this morning after I asked why there were so few apps available to Gear 1 owners who converted to Tizen.
Shame-

T-Anthony78 said:
Again- we are left behind.
I confirmed this with Samsung Support this morning after I asked why there were so few apps available to Gear 1 owners who converted to Tizen.
Shame-
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In my opinion is up to developers to add support "flag" for gear.
I think that most apps for gear 2 will work, but at the moment they are not configured to. The manifest file should be changed and inside Samsung Apps Store the Gear flag should be added.
That's all.

And can where can we ge download wgt files to install them?
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So this is why all the apps I am trying to install are failing. Lovely. Have only been able to use the clock face and notifications.
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As of today a bunch of more apps are available in Gear manger and Samsung app store for Tizen on Gear 1. I see that most of them is updated on June 9:th with Galaxy Gear 2 support and does work on Gear.

yes new apps awesome...watch styler is finally available. has anyone been able to get sleep genius to work? it hung on install now gear app store says it's installed but it doesn't show on the watch. no way to uninstall.
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gtxaspec said:
yes new apps awesome...watch styler is finally available. has anyone been able to get sleep genius to work? it hung on install now gear app store says it's installed but it doesn't show on the watch. no way to uninstall.
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My Sleep Genius works.
Are you able to go into Gear Manager under My Apps and delete it from there? Click the trash can on the top right and then select Sleep Genius (provided it appears in Gear Manager)

gtxaspec said:
yes new apps awesome...watch styler is finally available. has anyone been able to get sleep genius to work? it hung on install now gear app store says it's installed but it doesn't show on the watch. no way to uninstall.
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To uninstall goto your app manager and uninstall it in there.
Then go back to Samsung Apps and install it again.

There are sooooooo many more apps for gear 2. sorry. just sayn :laugh:

raiu said:
There are sooooooo many more apps for gear 2. sorry. just sayn :laugh:
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My brother just got a Galaxy S5 and Gear 2 Neo and that Samsung App Store has even less apps than Gear 1 Tizen.
Samsung has totally screwed everyone around with Tizen apps and the Samsung App Store.

NakedFaerie said:
My brother just got a Galaxy S5 and Gear 2 Neo and that Samsung App Store has even less apps than Gear 1 Tizen.
Samsung has totally screwed everyone around with Tizen apps and the Samsung App Store.
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That stinks, I have the gear 2 and a note 3 in the US. I have 77 apps just in the entertainment section of the app store in gear manager. There are more added every day. Don't know why.
I came from a gear 1, I liked it, but I had 3 that started showing a green area in the middle of the pictures. I exchanged it for the Gear 2 and couldn't be happier.

I was able to gain more apps in my Samsung store my changing the build prop on my phone. I currently have an ATT Note 3 (rooted via Towelroot) and I changed the build prop from this:
ro.product.model= SAMSUNG-SM-N900A
to this:
ro.product.model=SAMSUNG-SPH-L900
I did not change anything else, and I have approx 20 apps just in the Entertainment section alone. Multiwatch is there, along with a bunch more.
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Android or Tizen: Verdict?

I ordered the first gen Gear Smartwatch from a deal that was posted on SlickDeals earlier this week (should be here next week). I have been doing a lot of reading on the Gear and the pros & cons of Android vs Tizen...and whether root is really needed to enjoy the Gear. So I am asking all of you...what do you prefer & why? I know Tizen wins with battery life & Android wins with sideloading full Android apps...
What did all of you choose to do?
THanks!!

Tizen especially now apps are becoming available
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phil999 said:
Tizen especially now apps are becoming available
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Where can I see a list of all the apps available on Tizen? Also, can Android apps be ported over to Tizen easily? Thanks!!

I can tell you about my feelings on Tizen. The ability to root the watch and sideload apps was a nice novelty for me, but when I upgraded to Tizen, I felt like I had a new watch. It flows much better, the interface prettier, and the battery life is much improved. Tizen is dead in the water due to Android Wear and Samsung's insistence on keeping it a closed platform, but it gives new life to the Gear 1.

alprazolam said:
I can tell you about my feelings on Tizen. The ability to root the watch and sideload apps was a nice novelty for me, but when I upgraded to Tizen, I felt like I had a new watch. It flows much better, the interface prettier, and the battery life is much improved. Tizen is dead in the water due to Android Wear and Samsung's insistence on keeping it a closed platform, but it gives new life to the Gear 1.
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Thanks for your view on Tizen. To be honest I had difficulties understanding why someone would want to look at a small screen with regular android apps when you have a 5.7 inch phone in your pocket. BUT variety is also the spice of life and the ability to have all these apps on your watch IS a nice novelty. For me I think besides the stock apps I would need Evernote & My Fitness Pal on the watch. Anything else would be just for bragging to my iPhone friends what I can do with my new toy!!! LOL

List of apps i posted in the app and themes forum
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mikespe,
Thanks for this thread. I was wondering the same thing myself...whether to root my Android based Gear One or upgrade to the new OS. Still don't know for sure which I will stick with. Just rooted mine and looking to see if I can find any ROM's to install and play with. Then I will make my decision on whether to move up to Tizen. Would appreciate any other thoughts from folks on the Tizen OS.

Battery life seems better on tizen
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for me, battery life on tizen/multi-watch/custom watch face lasts about 3 days whereas android/watch styler/custom watch face would last about 1 day.
the other thing is that the tizen'ed gear can receive notifications from the watch when the screen is on. On android notifications doesn't come thru until the screen turns off. So when using Waze or other full-screen apps, I can easily glance to see what notifications i just received.
I don't miss android at all since upgrading to tizen about 3 weeks ago
edit: whats the benefit of rooting tizen? besides silencing the camera and i think increasing video length...

I have had tizen for 24 hours an missing a few of the old android apk. Like media remote for controlling the music player on my phone.
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Tyronnster said:
I have had tizen for 24 hours an missing a few of the old android apk. Like media remote for controlling the music player on my phone.
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Media remote is there. As is the new media player.
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I'm running nexus 5 so no access to the apps store
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I changed to Tizen within the first week of its release and must admit initially i found it much better in terms of battery life , sleep monitor etc
i also liked the fact that we have an SDK and i created a couple of watchfaces that suited me
BUT the haphazard way that Samsung make the Apps available is awful and i found i could have every type of app i want using Null
I have now gone back to Android as the biggest thing for me is Notifications , under Tizen the Notification system is worse than the original gear as Samsung have changed the Message Body font to a dull grey which is difficult enough to read anyway but in sunlight its virtually impossible. That coupled with the fact that not enough of the notification is displayed makes this a waste of time for me, Good to have the better battery life but if i have to open every message on the watch that soon dissapears.
So now i'm back to Null and i use SWAPPLink and the Notifications are brilliant, loads of the message info is displayed and i feel that its actually useful again.
what i have now done is made a watch face with the info that i want using UCCW and i find it much better now
Yes the battery is nowhere near as good but for me thats a small price to pay for a watch i am enjoying for a change

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I changed to Tizen within the first week of its release and must admit initially i found it much better in terms of battery life , sleep monitor etc
i also liked the fact that we have an SDK and i created a couple of watchfaces that suited me
BUT the haphazard way that Samsung make the Apps available is awful and i found i could have every type of app i want using Null
I have now gone back to Android as the biggest thing for me is Notifications , under Tizen the Notification system is worse than the original gear as Samsung have changed the Message Body font to a dull grey which is difficult enough to read anyway but in sunlight its virtually impossible. That coupled with the fact that not enough of the notification is displayed makes this a waste of time for me, Good to have the better battery life but if i have to open every message on the watch that soon dissapears.
So now i'm back to Null and i use SWAPPLink and the Notifications are brilliant, loads of the message info is displayed and i feel that its actually useful again.
what i have now done is made a watch face with the info that i want using UCCW and i find it much better now
Yes the battery is nowhere near as good but for me thats a small price to pay for a watch i am enjoying for a change
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Could you just show some pictures of your screen then? I am rather curious about your UCCW modifications!

Armazia said:
Could you just show some pictures of your screen then? I am rather curious about your UCCW modifications!
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not to everyones taste but i'm liking this at the moment
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not to everyones taste but i'm liking this at the moment
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Can you still make it through a full day with that setup... That's all I'm worried about.

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not to everyones taste but i'm liking this at the moment
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My last question; What kind of launcher are you using? just nova?

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Can you still make it through a full day with that setup... That's all I'm worried about.
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i am making it through the day but i dont think it would last the night as well
but i have been using it a lot setting it up so i expect that to improve
not as good as when i was on Tizen but even then i was charging every night as i dont think i would have made 2 full days easily
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My last question; What kind of launcher are you using? just nova?
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yes just Nova that came with Null

A quick update so far I have not used the watch for anything other than receiving notifications and after 7 hrs of use the battery is at 86% and that's with the display on full brightness for a while whilst I was out

Another update for you 14 hrs 48 mins and 41% left and I've been playing music on it through bluetooth so that's pretty good . I can live with that

Endomondo support

Endomondo released an update on Google Play today that now supports the Gear Fit. Can someone smarter than me tell me if its possible to make this app recognize the Gear 2 (Neo)?

I read that the just announced version only supports SS Fit. Article also said next release would include SS Gear 2...so you'll have to wait.
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I looked but must have missed that article. At least there is still hope. Endomondo is my favorite sports tracker app.

enodmondo released for gear 2 neo
today, i installed endomondo on gear 2 neo. i was waiting for it for 2 months.
it works, but with flaws:
- after the screen turns off, when you flip the hand to turn on the screen, you can only see the watch; to see the running exercise you have to use task manager or to click the app icon again, but this is not ok, requiring another 2-3 steps, not ergonomic
- the heart rate works only 'till the first screen off, after that it remains blocked at the last value - fixable only by restarting the app on the watch (and resetting the exercise)
- the customization is not available for the moment (the phone app has settings for Gear Fit only) - probably it will be solved by the next update
i was about to sell my gear2neo, but this release just changed my mind. i hope they fix the bugs so we can enjoy it.

I assumed you downloaded a new version of endomondo to connect the gear2 neo? I am waiting for that. I was similar to you and ready to sell my gear2 neo, even though I love the hardware. Looking forward to the new update.

Yes, I have 10.3.0 on the phone and the app from the Samsung Gear Apps on the watch.
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Someone can share the wgt to install it on a non-samsung phone?

They've updated the phone app to 10.3.1, and now it has support for gear 2/neo and you can customize it now
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They've updated the phone app to 10.3.1, and now it has support for gear 2/neo and you can customize it now
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Onihay:
Do you have a SS phone?
I'm sure a lot do not and we will need to learn how to download the widget and install on the Gear2. I'll research it

I have a Galaxy S4.
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Now the problem is that it doesn't work with the Endomondo Pro app. And the free app doesn't allow for custom intervals. ?
Scratch that... The free version is picking up my custom intervals. All is good!

On my Note 3 works fine, but on my K Zoom i can't download/install Endomondo on my Gear2Neo. Is it incompatible?
Any idea how to make it work?
Edited 25.09 - i know solution - need to edit build.prop file and change model from sm-c115 (kzoom) to for example S5 (which is sm-900f)

Regarding the issue of the screen turning off. This is a setting on the Gear 2 neo under the gestures. You can tell it to go to the clock screen or the last viewed screen. I changed my to the last viewed screen and now I can see the app that was running with no issues. I have also seen issues with the heart rate monitor but that is also with the stock exercise app as well.
omihay said:
today, i installed endomondo on gear 2 neo. i was waiting for it for 2 months.
it works, but with flaws:
- after the screen turns off, when you flip the hand to turn on the screen, you can only see the watch; to see the running exercise you have to use task manager or to click the app icon again, but this is not ok, requiring another 2-3 steps, not ergonomic
- the heart rate works only 'till the first screen off, after that it remains blocked at the last value - fixable only by restarting the app on the watch (and resetting the exercise)
- the customization is not available for the moment (the phone app has settings for Gear Fit only) - probably it will be solved by the next update
i was about to sell my gear2neo, but this release just changed my mind. i hope they fix the bugs so we can enjoy it.
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