I'm on Cromi-X and last night the screen just died. No warning or other issues were noted. My wife was in the middle of a game of PVZ2 and it stopped working, She assumed that the battery had just hit 0%. I have been on Cromi-X for about 5 weeks and had zero problems - the tablet was running just fine. It's still running fine, with an HDMI cable and dock, the tablet is perfectly useable. So now for suggestions.
1) Is there any point in going through the effort of returning the tablet to stock and sending it back to Asus (hoping that they will honor the warranty)? Obviously unlocking and rooting aren't going to cause a hardware failure like this, but their language is pretty clear that unlocking voids the warranty regardless of whether or not this has anything to do with the failure.
2) In a sad coincidence, my second TF701T was damaged yesterday in a car accident (yes, I actually lost two tablets the same day). In this case, the problem seems to be just the digitizer as the display looks perfect below the cracked glass, but I know that replacements for qty=1 aren't really an option. That one wasn't unlocked by the way (too bad they weren't reversed). This one may get covered by insurance since the other driver ran a red light and smashed into the car. However, I might end up with a functional LCD available to use on the other one (I'm guessing that the digitizer is probably fine). I realize that this is a tricky repair.
3) Are there any known problems anyone has heard of about screens going dead like this? Is there a connector that could have worked its way loose or anything like that?
What do you folks think I should try? If #1 is a 0% chance of getting Asus to fix under warranty, then I'd rather not waste the time and money on round-trip freight. On the other hand, if there is a chance, I'd be screwing myself by opening the tablet to look for something loose or fixable on the connection to the screen which definitely would void the warranty.
Thanks in advance.
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I'm on Cromi-X and last night the screen just died. No warning or other issues were noted. My wife was in the middle of a game of PVZ2 and it stopped working, She assumed that the battery had just hit 0%. I have been on Cromi-X for about 5 weeks and had zero problems - the tablet was running just fine. It's still running fine, with an HDMI cable and dock, the tablet is perfectly useable. So now for suggestions.
1) Is there any point in going through the effort of returning the tablet to stock and sending it back to Asus (hoping that they will honor the warranty)? Obviously unlocking and rooting aren't going to cause a hardware failure like this, but their language is pretty clear that unlocking voids the warranty regardless of whether or not this has anything to do with the failure.
2) In a sad coincidence, my second TF701T was damaged yesterday in a car accident (yes, I actually lost two tablets the same day). In this case, the problem seems to be just the digitizer as the display looks perfect below the cracked glass, but I know that replacements for qty=1 aren't really an option. That one wasn't unlocked by the way (too bad they weren't reversed). This one may get covered by insurance since the other driver ran a red light and smashed into the car. However, I might end up with a functional LCD available to use on the other one (I'm guessing that the digitizer is probably fine). I realize that this is a tricky repair.
3) Are there any known problems anyone has heard of about screens going dead like this? Is there a connector that could have worked its way loose or anything like that?
What do you folks think I should try? If #1 is a 0% chance of getting Asus to fix under warranty, then I'd rather not waste the time and money on round-trip freight. On the other hand, if there is a chance, I'd be screwing myself by opening the tablet to look for something loose or fixable on the connection to the screen which definitely would void the warranty.
Thanks in advance.
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I have something I have just discovered 2 days ago.... When I was playing real racing 3, my tablet turned off as the battery got discharged. I connected the charger and turned the tablet on, then all I could see was gliches on the screen. The colors were hazy.And the touchscreen was not usable. I think it is a hardware issue because it did not affect only android but also the asus logo that appears before loading the os. I tried to reboot several times in vain. Fortunatlely, I found out how to get rid of those glistches. Very simple: when the os boots, I lock the screen then unlocked it. Yeah very weird!!! the problem was reproduced as well as the solution... However, I dont know if it happens only when the tablet goes off while gaming or does it happen every time the tablet gets discharged. Other than that, everything works flawlessly!!!
You unlocked it which means no you no longer have a warranty. ASUS are quite clear on this. You can send it back to Asus and they will charge you to fix it.
Or you could open the back and check the ribbon hasn't come lose? Same with the other one, get a screen from eBay and fix it yourself. Probably some vids you can use on you tube.
Aren't you in Japan? Enjoy your vacation and stop helping all of us.
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Aren't you in Japan? Enjoy your vacation and stop helping all of us.
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I have a feeling he loves it... Win for us!
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So, I opened the tablet. Angry Dinosaur was right, it really is easy. Unfortunately, the cables connecting the display to the board look fine. I haven't seen any spare TF701T screens on Ebay, but I will keep looking. If anyone knows of a place, please let me know. Thanks.
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Aren't you in Japan? Enjoy your vacation and stop helping all of us.
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I'm bored A week speaking Japanese and nothing but Japanese TV and crappy BG WiFi modem I need some normality. That's you guys with your broken gadgets.
I normally don't do this, but based on what just happened, I added the Amazon 2-yr drops, spills, and hardware failure protection for $45. This one DOESN'T say anything about unlocking voiding a warranty (an that might be hard to prove in the event of a drop anyway). Anyone have any experience with this? For $45 it seems like a decent alternative to the loss of Asus warranty when I root. I can't not do it either, since I noticed such a big improvement on Cromi-X.
SBDAGS, if you are bored for a minute I had another question for you. I know that you love the stock browser and I agree that it's faster than Chrome. I want the extra screen space and so am using the quick controls. The one problem for me is that I like to scroll with my left thumb and pull out the menu with my right. I end up accidentally pulling up the quick controls and jumping to another page when I'm trying to scroll. This happens about every 5th scroll attempt. Do you have any idea how hard it would be to modify the labs setting to allow quick controls to function off left, right, both - maybe check boxes? I searched but couldn't find anything already done. I could create another donation fund for you if you think it's not a huge amount of work.
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I normally don't do this, but based on what just happened, I added the Amazon 2-yr drops, spills, and hardware failure protection for $45. This one DOESN'T say anything about unlocking voiding a warranty (an that might be hard to prove in the event of a drop anyway). Anyone have any experience with this? For $45 it seems like a decent alternative to the loss of Asus warranty when I root. I can't not do it either, since I noticed such a big improvement on Cromi-X.
SBDAGS, if you are bored for a minute I had another question for you. I know that you love the stock browser and I agree that it's faster than Chrome. I want the extra screen space and so am using the quick controls. The one problem for me is that I like to scroll with my left thumb and pull out the menu with my right. I end up accidentally pulling up the quick controls and jumping to another page when I'm trying to scroll. This happens about every 5th scroll attempt. Do you have any idea how hard it would be to modify the labs setting to allow quick controls to function off left, right, both - maybe check boxes? I searched but couldn't find anything already done. I could create another donation fund for you if you think it's not a huge amount of work.
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It'll be in the smali code probably. A good question for someone like @elesbb who loves these challenges. it's not a question of being bored for this one, I don't have the tools with me to decompile the apk.
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I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this also. Sometimes my milestones touch screen start goin all crazy an pushing buttons an sliding pages an pretty much making a huge mess.This has happened before, an it went normal after 4 to 5 hours later, an now its happening again. I did some research sayin somethin about the touch screen an its reaction to humidity an stuff, but i wasnt sure. So im hoping someone here knows what is up an can tell me what i have to do.
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I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this also. Sometimes my milestones touch screen start goin all crazy an pushing buttons an sliding pages an pretty much making a huge mess.This has happened before, an it went normal after 4 to 5 hours later, an now its happening again. I did some research sayin somethin about the touch screen an its reaction to humidity an stuff, but i wasnt sure. So im hoping someone here knows what is up an can tell me what i have to do.
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Did you have your phone plugged in to a USB charger at the time? Was it the stock charger?
no, it doesnt happen jus when its chargin, it happens randomly, an no its not a stock charger, but i dont see what that would have to do with the screen goin crazy pushing everythin
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no, it doesnt happen jus when its chargin, it happens randomly, an no its not a stock charger, but i dont see what that would have to do with the screen goin crazy pushing everythin
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Well, I would suggest that you try reverting back to using the stock charger for a few days and see if that helps. Using other chargers (esp from ebay) can cause similar effects on the Milestone/Droid due to voltage variances.
ill give it a try, an let you know what happens, thing is i bought the phone alone with no stock charger, so im gonna have to check on ebay for a stock one, but thanks again
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ill give it a try, an let you know what happens, thing is i bought the phone alone with no stock charger, so im gonna have to check on ebay for a stock one, but thanks again
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Well, try buying a stock one from an authorized Motorola dealer. Every since I purchased one on ebay, I always make sure my Moto chargers come in a sealed, hard plastic, package in attempt to improve authenticity (However, I'm not sure how much that buys me).
Good luck.
I get this same issue.
Unplugged or not, on various roms from stock to motofrenzy.
sometimes the screen will just become really crazy.
If i open a webpage and just hold my finger on the screen in one place it will zoom in scroll up and down, all sorts.
I verified what was happening by downloading Multitouch visualiser 2 from the Market.
A reboot always fixes the problem
Its kinda frustrating, because i know that Moto just direct you to the place of purchase and i was not the original purchaser, so i have no chance of a warranty repair.
yeah ive tried everything, its driving me up the wall, its been like this for the last 30 hours,an i cant even use the phone, this is the worst it been, it usually goes away after 5 to 6 hours , but now its jus gone crazy, an ive restarted an removed the battery countless of times
but burko, are you using a sock wall charger or a ebay or differant brand wall charger.thanks
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Well, try buying a stock one from an authorized Motorola dealer. Every since I purchased one on ebay, I always make sure my Moto chargers come in a sealed, hard plastic, package in attempt to improve authenticity (However, I'm not sure how much that buys me).
Good luck.
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could you tell me how much the out put of volts an amps the motorola milestone wall charger is, thanks
I actually use a BlackBerry charger, as i assumed Micro-Usb would be the same for all manufactures, but as above, it does start the screen going mad, as soon as i unplug it, it stops!
Ill see if i can make it go mad without being plugged in!
Good shout Knowthenazz!
That happened with me, when the temperature degree outside is very high, I live in region the degree reach to 48degree, my phone screen goes crazy, so I think your charger make your phone very hot, so the sensitivity of your screen begin not work properly. I'm note sure, just want to share my idea.
Thanks,
well its been about 4-5 days already, an my phones touch screen still goin crazy, i thought maybe id go back, like the other times, but this time seems permanent an its extremely depressing thinkin about it cus i jus got it like a week and a half ago off a guy.ive tried countless of chargers, even my bros motorola backflip charger, an nothin. so im gonna assume its permanently gone. i would switch the digitizer but thats gonna cost money an might jus lose the entire phone, so im jus gonna throw it back on ebay an go back to my htc hero an jus wait for the milestone 2 to come out. but if anyone does find a solution please post it here. thx everyone R.I.P. MILESTONE
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could you tell me how much the out put of volts an amps the motorola milestone wall charger is, thanks
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All chargers using the micro USB spec should be the exact same voltage (and different current ratings depending on the charger, although different current values shouldn't affect your screen at all). I suspect that the voltages are very close, if not generally the same, but, the voltage may slightly fluctuate (or ripple) over time, which I believe may be causing the issue. The better quality the charger, the more constant the voltage.
If I were you I'd purchase an authentic Motorola Micro USB charger, and call it a day.
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I actually use a BlackBerry charger, as i assumed Micro-Usb would be the same for all manufactures, but as above, it does start the screen going mad, as soon as i unplug it, it stops!
Ill see if i can make it go mad without being plugged in!
Good shout Knowthenazz!
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Glad I could help!
Not sure if this is true, but, I heard that most Motorola chargers work on Blackberry units, but, the converse isn't always the case.
well its been about a week and a half an the crazy screen thing finally stopped, i used my friends motorola backflip charger, an seems like evrything is back to normal, but now the "back" button does not work, an it really is a verry important button, so im jus hopin time will fix that button too
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well its been about a week and a half an the crazy screen thing finally stopped, i used my friends motorola backflip charger, an seems like evrything is back to normal, but now the "back" button does not work, an it really is a verry important button, so im jus hopin time will fix that button too
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Glad things are returning back to normal for you with regards to the screen.
Not sure what's going on with your back button though. Hope it works itself out for you.
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Glad things are returning back to normal for you with regards to the screen.
Not sure what's going on with your back button though. Hope it works itself out for you.
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thanks for your help knowthenazz an everyone else =]
Go to a service center asap!
Dude, use your warranty. Take it to a service center.
Mine happened the same, and I decided to send it back to motorola and just got it back yesterday.
They replaced the glass screen and the frame which surrounds the glass.
It seems they removed that plastic from behind the screen on the slider, or also replaced the slider module.
I'd guess it might be a known issue for motorola, because my phone had scratches on the glass, plus a small crack on the screen ( yeah, I know, it's gorilla glass, but I'm an orc with mobiles ), the metal frame was all dented, and they replaced it anyway, when they could just said "this is misuse, it's failing because you drop it several times, go buy another one"
I already had this issue a few months before, it got better and I decided to keep on, and then it started again and got unusable, so don't get excited about it getting better, because probably will eventually start failing again.
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Dude, use your warranty. Take it to a service center.
Mine happened the same, and I decided to send it back to motorola and just got it back yesterday.
They replaced the glass screen and the frame which surrounds the glass.
It seems they removed that plastic from behind the screen on the slider, or also replaced the slider module.
I'd guess it might be a known issue for motorola, because my phone had scratches on the glass, plus a small crack on the screen ( yeah, I know, it's gorilla glass, but I'm an orc with mobiles ), the metal frame was all dented, and they replaced it anyway, when they could just said "this is misuse, it's failing because you drop it several times, go buy another one"
I already had this issue a few months before, it got better and I decided to keep on, and then it started again and got unusable, so don't get excited about it getting better, because probably will eventually start failing again.
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thing is i bought it off anothere guy, an he was a phone dealer an it was given to him as a gift from motorola, an like it had no papers or charger or service carrier, jus the phone alone straight form hong kong. an yeah couple hours later my screen went crazy again, so its on ebay atm lol, but thanks anyways
It happened with me too. Somebody told me that was cause by sweat. So i took it to service center.
started happening to me yesterday, anyone know a fix yet?
I have searched the Forums and I have seen this issue addressed but I haven't found any advice that will help in my particular case. I purchased a Nexus One with Froyo 2.2 used off Ebay. I had read reviews, watched videos, checked specs, and thought this was the phone I wanted. I paid $500. It arrived in good condition and at first I thought I had made the right move. It wasn't long before I discovered the Touchscreen issue and started turning up posts validating my concerns. I have found that if I turn, tilt, angle, or otherwise reposition my phone, the touchscreen does eventually work without a reboot. Toggling the power button does not work for me, nor did removing and reseating the battery. Since I did not buy the phone new I have no warranty. It is not clear to me whether or not this can even be repaired - some posts seem to indicate that not all Nexus One phones have this issue - some indicate that all do. I don't know if I've just thrown $500 out the window or if I have some options. I own two businesses and am a heavy phone user. I need a phone that works all the time and I can't afford to miss calls because the slider won't slide. Sadly one of my businesses is failing and eating up every cent of profit from the other, so money is a huge issue for me.
Please don't accuse me of not searching the forums - I have. Regardless, I still do not know what to do. Is this phone fixable? Can someone please direct me?
Thanks,
A very sad and disappointed Susan
There are 2 different touch screen issues. Which one are you having?
1) The presses register lower than needed, so you miss the correct point where you wanted to press. Plagues all N1s, seems to be reduced by the newest radio (Korean 5.12) for whatever reason, pressing power button twice (once for sleep and once for wake again) cures it, always.
2) Touch screen becomes completely unresponsive, sometimes screen doesn't turn off or doesn't turn on. It might be the failure that I'm checking right now. Didn't confirm it completely yet, but looks like latest kernels (I tested intersectRaven's 20101025_XXXX one) cure it. Tested with CM6.1.0-RC1 on friend's Nexus that would hang several times a day when using stock FRG83 (I can't test myself, can't bring my Nexus to hang, succeeded only once).
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I've read on these forums that the 1 year warranty on Nexus One is on the phone not the purchaser, you might want to contact HTC and see if your device is still under warranty. Its a PIA but the turn around time for most people including myself is really quick, here's hoping its less than a year old!!
There aren't any N1s over a year old.
FYI.
I have never had any touchscreen trouble with my N1, I ordered mine during the N1 launch event as soon as the website was up so its a pretty early one.
I've had loads of problem with the capacitive buttons though.
I _have_ had my N1's screen _seem_ unresponsive, but in each case I've been able to connect adb and see that in actual fact the framework was locked in mid-crash (and that's only happened to me maybe 5 times since I've had it, ignoring when I've been running Cyanogenmod nightlies )
Hey, I heard that installing CM6 fixes it for a lot of people, I wouldn't know from experience though, because I installed CM6 before even turning the phone on when I got it =)
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Hey, I heard that installing CM6 fixes it for a lot of people, I wouldn't know from experience though, because I installed CM6 before even turning the phone on when I got it =)
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Nope. the touchscreen issue is still there but it really does not bother me. It only crops up once in a blue moon.
Make sure your not accidentally touching any part of the screen when you slide to answer. The slide will not register if your palm is touching the glass.
If your CPU is 100% used the same thing can happen.
Paying 93% of the retail cost don't seem like a good deal for a used phone. (its 535+25+tax from google)
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Make sure your not accidentally touching any part of the screen when you slide to answer. The slide will not register if your palm is touching the glass.
If your CPU is 100% used the same thing can happen.
Paying 93% of the retail cost don't seem like a good deal for a used phone. (its 535+25+tax from google)
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In CA, Mine was $580 total - shipped. That's only 86%
Seeing as tax for me within CA was 53 dollars (10% ugh ), total for the "DEV" phone today would have been 613 dollars. A N1 for 500 bucks even is 81%, not 93%
Installing a custom ROM fixed the problem for me. I have never used CM6, but I don't have the problem with either Enomther's or MIUI. I recommend you try both!
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In CA, Mine was $580 total - shipped. That's only 86%
Seeing as tax for me within CA was 53 dollars (10% ugh ), total for the "DEV" phone today would have been 613 dollars. A N1 for 500 bucks even is 81%, not 93%
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$500 is 93% of $535 since you're not playing tax at ebay anyway. Shipping is free from google.
Thank you so Much
I have been traveling on business and until now have not had a chance to read all your answers and reply. I have the 2nd problem described, that the screen becomes completely responsive. Sometimes it helps to turn the phone from portrait to landscape, but sometimes not. I have to admit that while I thought that turning it off and on again did not work, I am now finding that it does usually fix the problem.
As far as buying it used, I would have preferred to buy it new, but when I tried the Google site announced that Google was no longer selling the phone. Anyplace else I found it new, the price was close to $700.
At any rate, now I have some options to try. I'm not sure how to install a new ROM but I am sure the instructions are here somewhere and I will search for them. When I bought it, it already had Froyo 2.2 installed by the previous owner.
I will also contact HTC with the IMEI number to see if it is still under warranty.
You all have given me such great advice that I have a lot more research to do. I'm exhausted tonight having just returned from my trip but I will be researching and hopefully attempting the ROM update over the weekend. Stay tuned.
Susan
As in earlier post, there aren't any N1's over a year old. As long as your water strips and void stickers are intact you should be good.
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I have a fairly new n1 (EU vodafone shipped with FRF91)
I had some touchscreen errors before on cyanogenmod 6.1rc1 with their kernel
With intersects ravens kernel (2.6.35.7_AVS-CM_BFS_20101104_2252) it seems fixed
A 1/4" section from top to bottom on the left side (in portrait mode) of my Bionic seems to be paralyzed (see attached pic). Anything which falls in that zone is inaccessible. First noticed the problem when sending a text and was unable to access letters and commands in the "dead zone".
I've done the ultimate trouble shoot and did a factory reset. I suspected this was a hardware problem and I think I was proven right when restoring factory defaults didn't work. Called up Verizon and replacement is in the mail. I was told that's not an ongoing issue and my case may be the first (yeah right)...
Wondering whether or not I should unroot before sending in the replacement (can't deal with refurbish this early ). I mean I deleted all bloatware without backing up and don't feel like searching for all those apk's to restore them all.
This thread is meant to help others with the same issue...don't waste your time. It's a hardware problem. Get a replacement.
I wouldn't worry about it. If it's a hardware issue, they usually won't bother. I returned by Incredible for a replacement when the screen went dead for some odd reason. Returned a Charge (for the Bionic) in person with it rooted, running GummyCharged.
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Yeah if its hardware, it goes to a different department than if it was a software issue. For a hardware problem, they wont even look at the files in most cases.
Personally I would return it to bone-stock before I returned it. I understand the chance is very, very slim that they will decide to make the software modifications and issue, but I personally would not be willing to make a $600 bet on it. That just me and YMMV.
Good luck.
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Personally I would return it to bone-stock before I returned it. I understand the chance is very, very slim that they will decide to make the software modifications and issue, but I personally would not be willing to make a $600 bet on it. That just me and YMMV.
Good luck.
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The thing is every time you root/unroot you run the risk of bricking. With my luck that may just happen, thus my hesitation. Guess I'll be a guinea pig in this one and report the results later. Got 4 more days left to return so may just change my mind and unroot.
have you tried using some painting app to test it? there is a one-click restore back to stock script made by dhacker floating around. check rootzwiki bionic forum.
Re screen 'deadzone'
I've noticed some funkiness in the left edge responsiveness too. I use K9 Mail and have multi-select on which adds checkboxes along the left margin. Sometimes they don't want to turn into checkmarks. Other times- as in just now, it's no problem
the only time i noticed touchscreen becoming unresponsive is when the phone is charging. i hope its a software issue and the next ota fixes it.
It seems I have a hardware issue as right after installing a nightly CM9, it seemed to be working fiine when I went to install a simple batery level mod and I got the "UI has stopped working" warning and when I went to reboot to reflash the OS, it suddenly displayed the BSOD (with tightly spaced black thin lines) and now NOTHING I've tried will get it to respond.
I've done all the button push combos, plugged it into the computer, left it on charge overnight....nothing...absolutely nothing.
This was a very stable TP before this episode.
So after diagnosing it with an HP chat session...and volunteering the CM9 install, of course my warranty is void and they want $235 to repair it...I could replace it cheaper.
So, any independants doing repairs on these yet? Preferably in the midwest.
I don't think they'd repair it anyway if you sent it in (even if warranty is still on) because it has a 3rd party OS on it. You may just get it returned in the mail despite them knowing it beforehand.
I bricked my Nook Color running CM7 after installing a battery app. from the market before, and someone warned me against them here on XDA saying this is not uncommon.
Now I try to avoid installing any now on my TP and just use the built in battery reader. With my Nook, I did manage to unbrick it via button reset combos. Hope you sort it out with your TP.
Tried webos doctor? I have seen it fix this.
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WebOS Dr. can't see it due to it not turning on....
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WebOS Dr. can't see it due to it not turning on....
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There is a guy on webosnation.com who repairs Touchpad.
Try this forum (I dont remember his name): http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/
might be helpful, ive recovered a few "completely bricked" Tp's to perfect factory condition, it might look confusing/overwhelming, but its easier than it looks, and better than paying someone to fix it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1564938
My problem is that my TP doesn't show the 1st sign of life....nothing....
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My problem is that my TP doesn't show the 1st sign of life....nothing....
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to me it sounds like either a "hard" soft-brick, or a definate hardware failure.
the TP cant be hard bricked at all, its the best feature about it and can always be recovered with a little elbow grease and carpel tunnel
as for the hardware failure, if the TP is under warranty still, HP will fix the issue or send you a refurb, but at a hefty price...and the problem with sending it to a user to fix is that they might not be able to find/resolve the problem, and you'll still have to go back to HP or move on to a new tablet and sell the TP for parts...
now as for recovering it yourself, have you done any testing to see if you can get the hardware to detect on PC by hearing the "usb connected" sound? there are 3 methods to try this, 1 is just plugging in and hard resetting, the other is to go to the regular download mode, and the last is the dev download mode (i cant remember how to do that one again, you might have to search for it)
if either of these give you the usb connected sound, even for a second, then you are in luck and its just a soft brick which is recoverable.
if not, try to "charge" for a few hours, repeat the test and see if it yields any results. if not, then its a hardware failure, and the smartest bet is to send to HP for repair/refurb
If it is hardware bricked, try seeing if they will accept it back under warranty without telling them about the different OS (unless you already gave them all your info). They may be able to recover it or replace it without knowing. If they find it and want that price, then tell then to shove it and find another.
The chance that they will not discover the OS is pretty good if it is hardware bricked, so absent another good alternative - give it a try.
unfortunately, one look at the partition table, and HP will send it right back, no follow up investigation whatsoever, and include a memo stating price to repair a "voided-warranty" touchpad
i know it sucks, but thats the price we pay (pun unintentional/intended) for quality aftermarket OS's beyond the scope of support
EDIT** Doug, any luck?
No luck...am currently looking for a cheap broken screen TP for parts.....and am guessing I need the logic board.
In the mean time, I bought an Asus TF300T tablet....nice
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No luck...am currently looking for a cheap broken screen TP for parts.....and am guessing I need the logic board.
In the mean time, I bought an Asus TF300T tablet....nice
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hahaha id stop looking, thats a fantastic replacement!
and it sucks that the TP died, its a decent quick use tablet, but it is one of those literal "you get what you pay for" products
I would still sent it in.
If it is so badly bricked that they cannot activate it enough to see anything - you should get a replacement. Otherwise, you should have the option of them shipping it back - unless you just want to forgetaboutit at that point.
Found a parts TP on eBay...so now when it and the tools I ordered arrive..we'll see how "fixable" it may be
Doug Harden said:
Found a parts TP on eBay...so now when it and the tools I ordered arrive..we'll see how "fixable" it may be
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unbelieveably fixable (youll love the size of the battery ), the worst part is the reassembly of the screen with the rubber gromit/gasket that goes around it, what a niusance!
excellent breakdown here: http://www.ifixit.com/Device/HP_TouchPad
Solidus_n313 said:
hahaha id stop looking, thats a fantastic replacement!
and it sucks that the TP died, its a decent quick use tablet, but it is one of those literal "you get what you pay for" products
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i dont know about that. I think you get a bit more than you pay for. I would say it's worth about 250 (w/ android) considering a smaller and less specced kindle sells for 200.
hockey4life0099 said:
i dont know about that. I think you get a bit more than you pay for. I would say it's worth about 250 (w/ android) considering a smaller and less specced kindle sells for 200.
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that really depends on the users needs, especially if the require fully working camera, bt etc. and full H/W accel video (and proper manuf. support/updates)
the touchpad is an excellent "fun" tablet to muck about with, and an amazing cheap tablet (i still use webOS once in a while too! ), but if you need something reliable, lightweight, and fully supported, then any of the big 5 are an excellent choice for that.
having said that, i 100% agree with you (especially if purchased on firesale) the TP is prolly the only current/next gen tablet ill ever own anyway because it does everything that i need in a tablet and then some
EDIT** and when i said "you get what you pay for" i literally meant you buy it, its yours, and it is what it is unless you are willing to take the risk (no real support from HP)
WOW...^^ I fixed it!! I was waiting (still am ) for a parts TP I bought from eBay and thought I'd try just putting it all back together...(I'd taken it apart awaiting the parts)...and I'll be damned it came back on and has been fine!!
My guess is that the charging circuit in these things is ultra sensitive and demanding of it's own proccess. I still am not sure why mine glitched and died, but simply removing the battery for a period of time and reinstalling it seemed to fix the problem. Battery was at 35% when it awoke...when it died it was around 85%.
Thanks for all the ideas and help......now if I could just get my $$ or the TP from eBay (it's been 11 days) I'd be even happier.....
Hello Xda,
This is my first post here although I've lurked for quite some time looking for answers and help.
I just got my droid 4 over winter break and I have been loving it since. The update to JB was nice but it took me some time to get it right because I am specialâ„¢.
Anyways, here's my problem: A few weeks ago I was napping on a couch and I rolled over and the phone fell to the ground screen down. Later that morning the touch screen started acting erratically where it would not work until i locked and unlocked the phone. After having that happen a few times later that day the touch screen went out completely. I rebooted the phone by holding the lockscreen down and using the keyboard to select power off. When I turned it back on even the lock screen had started being screwy, which leaves me to where I am now. The lock screen locks the phone perfectly, but it i have to hit it multiple times and hope that it will turn on in the next 5-10 before trying again. The touch screen still does not work. I have read around and saw that it could be the digitizer. I took the phone apart once to make sure nothing was loose anywhere before I bought it and since that did not fix the phone I went ahead and purchased a new digitzer. I just finished installing it and I'm still having the same issues. So xda, I'm lost.
I really don't feel like buying a new phone and I'd love to try and repair this. Does anyone have any ideas on where the problem could be? I checked the pins on the back of the mobo and they looked fine. I just left the phone on a bit too long and got about 2 weeks worth of texts so it still runs smoothly..just without a damn touch screen.
Thank you for your help and reading this wall of text!
Edit: I just realized lockscreen is meant to be lock button in the title, sorry for any confusion!
WhyDroidWhy said:
Hello Xda,
This is my first post here although I've lurked for quite some time looking for answers and help.
I just got my droid 4 over winter break and I have been loving it since. The update to JB was nice but it took me some time to get it right because I am specialâ„¢.
Anyways, here's my problem: A few weeks ago I was napping on a couch and I rolled over and the phone fell to the ground screen down. Later that morning the touch screen started acting erratically where it would not work until i locked and unlocked the phone. After having that happen a few times later that day the touch screen went out completely. I rebooted the phone by holding the lockscreen down and using the keyboard to select power off. When I turned it back on even the lock screen had started being screwy, which leaves me to where I am now. The lock screen locks the phone perfectly, but it i have to hit it multiple times and hope that it will turn on in the next 5-10 before trying again. The touch screen still does not work. I have read around and saw that it could be the digitizer. I took the phone apart once to make sure nothing was loose anywhere before I bought it and since that did not fix the phone I went ahead and purchased a new digitzer. I just finished installing it and I'm still having the same issues. So xda, I'm lost.
I really don't feel like buying a new phone and I'd love to try and repair this. Does anyone have any ideas on where the problem could be? I checked the pins on the back of the mobo and they looked fine. I just left the phone on a bit too long and got about 2 weeks worth of texts so it still runs smoothly..just without a damn touch screen.
Thank you for your help and reading this wall of text!
Edit: I just realized lockscreen is meant to be lock button in the title, sorry for any confusion!
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Wow! That's bizaare. I can safely say that I've dropped my Droid 4 multiple times in the year that I've owned it, including on hard surfaces, and I've never had any problems as such. Sorry to hear about your troubles.
This sounds like a pretty in depth hardware issue, and I think it's beyond my scope of knowledge, But, I would like to ask, did you buy the phone from a third party? Or directly from your service provider? Because if you bought it from your provider, I was going to ask if you had insurance on the phone. If not, that sort of issue may very well be under warranty, depending on when the phone was manufactured. But, you probably voided it if you opened it up and changed a component in it
The only other advice I can offer, outside of buying a new phone, would be to take it to a third party repair shop. If you're in the U.S., Verizon has an independent franchise called Wireless Zone that I believe does phone and tablet repairs. I'd see if there's one in your area. Me personally, I think I'd just avoid the hassle and buy a new phone, but it's up to you. Not sure how much you can find a D4 for on eBay or Craigslist these days, but I'd go that route. Sorry I can't be more help. Good luck!
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Wow! That's bizaare. I can safely say that I've dropped my Droid 4 multiple times in the year that I've owned it, including on hard surfaces, and I've never had any problems as such. Sorry to hear about your troubles.
This sounds like a pretty in depth hardware issue, and I think it's beyond my scope of knowledge, But, I would like to ask, did you buy the phone from a third party? Or directly from your service provider? Because if you bought it from your provider, I was going to ask if you had insurance on the phone. If not, that sort of issue may very well be under warranty, depending on when the phone was manufactured. But, you probably voided it if you opened it up and changed a component in it
The only other advice I can offer, outside of buying a new phone, would be to take it to a third party repair shop. If you're in the U.S., Verizon has an independent franchise called Wireless Zone that I believe does phone and tablet repairs. I'd see if there's one in your area. Me personally, I think I'd just avoid the hassle and buy a new phone, but it's up to you. Not sure how much you can find a D4 for on eBay or Craigslist these days, but I'd go that route. Sorry I can't be more help. Good luck!
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I had dropped it many times(I'm very clumsy with my phone) before that. This was not even the worst drop of them all so it really confuses me too. I did buy it off ebay so there was no hope for warranty which is why I went down the try and fix it myself route. I did exactly as you said a few days ago. I gave up and bought another one off craigslist. A case is already on the way too so this does not happen again. My theory is that the connections from the front half of the phone(the led/digitizer, etc) where the two pieces attach back to the circuit board have gone bad somehow. I zombiefied the phone with just the circuit board and the screen to see if pressing in different spots would fix anything but to no avail. I'm just going to hold on to it for awhile and mess with it in my spare time now hehe. Thanks for the advice!
Edit: I just wish Motorola would come out with the Droid 5 or some other new smartphone with a keyboard. I guess I'm old school but I can't go with a touchscreen only phone
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I had dropped it many times(I'm very clumsy with my phone) before that. This was not even the worst drop of them all so it really confuses me too. I did buy it off ebay so there was no hope for warranty which is why I went down the try and fix it myself route. I did exactly as you said a few days ago. I gave up and bought another one off craigslist. A case is already on the way too so this does not happen again. My theory is that the connections from the front half of the phone(the led/digitizer, etc) where the two pieces attach back to the circuit board have gone bad somehow. I zombiefied the phone with just the circuit board and the screen to see if pressing in different spots would fix anything but to no avail. I'm just going to hold on to it for awhile and mess with it in my spare time now hehe. Thanks for the advice!
Edit: I just wish Motorola would come out with the Droid 5 or some other new smartphone with a keyboard. I guess I'm old school but I can't go with a touchscreen only phone
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Ah, ok. Well, that's still pretty crazy that it happened. Sorry for the delayed response, but anyway glad to hear that you've got a new one on the way, and a new case coming too.
Yeah, I'm the same way. I got the D4 cuz I really like having a keyboard. Unfortunately, it looks like it may be the last keyboard phone to come out for a while, if ever. But on a sidenote, a lot of the newer phones with big screens have really good touchscreens that I think wouldn't be so bad to type on. My girlfriend's GS3 is awesome. I think I could get used to it. And even if you get touchscreen only phone, I do believe that there are a number of third party keyboards you can buy that will plug into the phone. That will probably be the way to go in the future.