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My captivate has been working like a champ for better than two years now, aside from possible phoneco problems and the smershingly infuriating wth speaker problem. I was pretty conservative with the apps I installed for most of that time, but have been less so more recently. I did program a simple app to see if I could, and was just starting to think about trying rooting it with the freedom to renew the contract and get a better fone too, but recently it has been rebooting repeatedly, giving erroneous battery condition info, and having problems connecting to the voice and data nets. So my question is going to be do I need a new handset or is it the battery needing replacement and I can use the money to get a laptop that I need instead.
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My first suspicion towards the battery was the erroneous battery condition info, specifically that it was showing a battery level of 0% but able to work. The phone did seem to boot more normally instead of rebooting to airplane mode with a cheaper Chinese replacement battery, but then starting having the same rebooting/radio problems. Before booting the replacement battery, I noticed the original battery oddly bulged where the replacement was not. After booting the replacement battery, the replacement battery bulged oddly in a similar manner. I don't know to handle bulging batteries for heat or not. I have 2 more unbulging replacement batteries from an ebay auction package, but I was not happy with their charge life when I tried using one of them before.
Now the phone seems to work ok on usb power.
Some of the recently non-conservative apps installed recently were AnkiDroid, Gunsmith (didn't work and I uninstalled it), Sudoku something, Mind Games, and mind calculator. Some of the other apps that were champing it up along with the phone no problem 100% were AskPhil, US Army Survival Guide, Brain Genius Deluxe, Google Goggles and Sky, jjReader, a ton of music related apps, and the update to Android2.1. I was planning to update to 2.2 soon, but the update to 2.1 was a little bit of a hassle so I didn't take the time.
So the questions really:
should I be able to get away with uninstalling my recent app installs and installing 2.2 or should I start planning a weekend for a more drastic reset and rooting procedure? I am somewhat versed in unix style systems, but prefer windows, and am not very knowledgeable about kernels of either, will I need more than a weekend to figure out the root and wipe out?
can batteries go bad from a bad app or does the phone maybe have a more serious problem?
Have people been noticing 4G as usefully faster, I use maybe 1Gb of data a month, should I go for a new phone and thaw my 897 later?
What do people think about the programmability and functionality of the newer windows phones? App programming for Android is maybe twice as messy a my experience in .net desktop frameworks, should I figure to get a windows phone?
That is a lot, thanks for reading and any answers or suggestions you have.
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- Your problem is not app related. Try replacing battery with original Samsung one, don't rely on cheap Chinese batteries.
- Check your charger, may be going bad and bugging phone's charging circuit.
- Install CyanogenMod CM10.1 Stable Android 4.2.2 and see if the problem persists.
- IMHO, no future in Windows phone OS, they hold <3% of mobile phones market.
- A new faster phone is always better, but first try to resurrect Captivate, it's still not a bad phone.
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Thanks, I guess it would be better that the apps can't fry the battery, although that means my case is more something hardware malfunction. The Chinese replacement battery is working ok but doesn't hold a charge as long as the original.
Do you know if the batteries have a built in voltage sensor or if the phone was possibly doing the error voltage sensing?
I don't necessarily think to trust the AT&T+Samsung/Samsung approved android build more than one in widespread use from the internet, besides the consideration that they would want to keep my business. Is the CyanogenMod you mention more or less observation intrusive than the stock? Is it worth the risk for any specific 4.2.2 features?
- Yes, batteries have their own charging protection circuit with voltage control
- Android 4.2.2 is better in any way - speed, compatibility and features
- No risk with CM ROM, it is very stable and you can always go back to stock in case you don't like CM
I have same problems ever since I don't use stock kernel .. I replace the battery but problem persist even with a brand new battery.. I blame the kernels and almost every 4.2 kernel out there is based on semaphore .. The problem is killing slowly the new batt
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I have same problems ever since I don't use stock kernel .. I replace the battery but problem persist even with a brand new battery.. I blame the kernels and almost every 4.2 kernel out there is based on semaphore .. The problem is killing slowly the new batt
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Millions of Captivate phones use Semaphore based kernel with no battery issues. The problem you guys have is hardware related.
Yup.. I think so.. And Will not get fix by buying new battery , so if you have this kind of problem trash your cappy
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Yup.. I think so.. And Will not get fix by buying new battery , so if you have this kind of problem trash your cappy
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Or get in touch with Josh at mobiletechvideos.com to see if he can fix it.
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Hey, all, thanks so much so far, very helpful. Here is my situation latests. I have updated the A.OS from the official stock 2.2 to the os 2.3, which basically confirmed that there is something wrong wrong with the handset. It consistently freezes and reboots in under an hour of operation, but seemingly without patterned trigger. So I have to get a new handset, and it will not be a samsung or at&t unless a salesperson at the store can give me a replacement not a captivate.
My next questions are, if I can keep the malfunctioning captivate, is there a somewhat human understandable log of operations somewhere on the phone that might give a clue as to the activity that is loop locking the phone? I seem to recall something about extensive key-wise logging system a while back, am I totally out of the ball park to try something like that? At my current knowledge of mobile phoneology, the other thing I can think to try is a factory reset/wipe, then maybe the firmware loaders available here.
anecdotally, one of the Chinese batteries got 'crunchy' after it got bulgy, definitely not an endorsement for that brand
I am considering a Motorola or an htc next, options and opinions tentively welcome thanks again
This issue is really bugging me. I came from an s4 and the g2 is superior in nearly every way. However, I work in an area of patchy signal, but the s4 switched between LTE, 3g, and 1x much much better than my g2. It's driving my crazy. I have to toggle airplane mode probably 5 or more times per day just to get LTE back. I replaced my Sim already thinking that was it. This is my second g2 as the first had a faulty screen. Specs are awesome but if I have to keep toggling airplane mode I may have to move on. Anyone else with this issue?
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This is something of a hit or miss, semi-known issue with the newer updates on the G2. A lot of the first Kit Kat ROMS also suffered from this, based off that update with the 24a radio. Some people have been able to do a Factory Reset and get it to play nicely since then. I'm not sure if there are fixes in the works other than that. I've rooted my phone a while back, and it's working now for me, but again, that's rooted and not stock.
It is though, one of those things that there are plenty of people that have had the issue, but plenty more who haven't, with no real rhyme or reason as to why. I really don't have any other answers though, other than maybe try the reset as a last resort and see. Unless you want to get yourself into the rooting scene and give that a go
Running xdabbeb's VS980 ROM here, and I sometimes get that issue, though far less than when I was running stock.
Of course, I also live in Northern West Virgi.... I mean Southwestern Pennsylvania. ?
By that I mean that I'm not surprised that the towers aren't providing consistent coverage, what with the hills alone.
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I was rooted, and then I tried malladus, and same thing. I ended up going to a Droid Maxx. I know, lesser specs but honestly, the build quality and near vanilla experience is plain awesome. Also, my signal has never been better on any phone I've had. I suppose everyone's mileage will vary.
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yeah, for mine, I had issues before, and tried all sorts of variations of back and forth, 12b, 24a, 4.2, 4.4, I was all over the place, and just ended up staying on whatever it was. And the signal steadied out, but I'm not sure why or how. I hadn't changed anything, and suddenly it started working again (was on a 12b load at that point). I know there were a couple places where I started picking up 4G where there wasn't before, so I assume a couple more towers got loaded up, but still, not sure why that would suddenly effect my other areas. But once it started working, I revisited a KK rom, and so far so good.
Of course, now there's that G3 thing...
Yeah, not good when you can't pin down what it really is. My 3g actually never worked. Ever.
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Just posting to see if any of our QUALCOMM variants are experiencing what the International versions are. Mine is working amazingly well no sign of an issue yet. Anyone else facing anything like what's going on with the exynos? I'm optimistic yet cautious about ours.
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Just posting to see if any of our QUALCOMM variants are experiencing what the International versions are. Mine is working amazingly well no sign of an issue yet. Anyone else facing anything like what's going on with the exynos? I'm optimistic yet cautious about ours.
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In regard to what? Spontaneously turning into a fire ball?
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Just posting to see if any of our QUALCOMM variants are experiencing what the International versions are. Mine is working amazingly well no sign of an issue yet. Anyone else facing anything like what's going on with the exynos? I'm optimistic yet cautious about ours.
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Yes your thread is vague and honestly simply go through the forum and see the threads of people complaining. Not sure why you would create a new thread for this or make it more specific. IJS
First off no need to be rude. Second I'm not sure why you care so much about a question I asked must be keeping you up at night so I apologize for that...... I was talking about the using the phone for a few days and it becoming a brick like several international versions are experiencing. But thanks for showing me how rude everyone can be at 8:50am...
Probably quiet few people on t-mo forum don't frequent international forum, myself included, so may not be aware of specific issues there, so lets all come down and have intelligent conversation, since IMO OP question is legit as long as it is properly explained. Sooo, as far as I know there were few complains about lagging, poor battery life and couple QC issues , which BTW none of them I experienced. Personally I have not seen any brick post on this forum, which is strange since we already have root and there is plenty of people who can't follow simple directions, sometimes myself included. Anyway I wouldn't worry too much, phone is on warranty and there will always be some quality control issues. Are you sure those are not user related, like trying to root without a clue, or taking underwater photography on your scuba dive? People don't always tell whole story. If you don't have N7 yet, wait until dust clears, if you do, just enjoy it, life's too short.
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First off no need to be rude. Second I'm not sure why you care so much about a question I asked must be keeping you up at night so I apologize for that...... I was talking about the using the phone for a few days and it becoming a brick like several international versions are experiencing. But thanks for showing me how rude everyone can be at 8:50am...
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It's not a matter of rude, mate. There's multiple things that your cryptic "same prob as intl versions" could be...a little more clarity is all that was needed...
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But to answer, that's a Exynos issue thus far, and nitric had been reported for Qualcomm models
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Exactly, no rudeness seen in this thread its just if you're going to ask a question at least have it make sense. With further explanation from other parties it seems we now may have a better understanding of what OP originally meant to say. :good:
It appears that the problem starts after the first OTA update samsung released from what I have read. I hope if Tmobile releases it, it will be a later build if infact the software is too blame. I'm usually first to update but I may play it safe and wait a day or so when it's released to us. And in regards to the user error in regards to the problem. The phone apparently will start to freeze and reboot and then get stuck in reboot cycles and when you attempt a factory reset in the OS or recovery the phone becomes unusable. Samsung isn't sure of its hardware or software yet. That's why I'm optimistic but cautious about ours.
Good to know, if that's the case we could postpone updates and see if any problems are reported. It wouldn't be first time updates create more problems than fixes. Few yrs ago I updated my Asus computer BIOS, despite reading other people having problem (I assumed user errors). It took me 1 week and $20 hardware just to boot up, never mind countless hours of Google search, the BIOS was completely hosed on certain hardware, which I happened to have. Never bricked the phone with updates yet, but more often than not, stuff stops working the way it should, so waiting few days may be best option. Love the phone, would hate to loose it even for few days.
Well samsung had stopped shipping the note 7 due to them needing more "quality control testing" havent said why yet or what markets they are delayed in.
The article I read said Samsung stops shipping in Korea, no official reason given, except better QC, so everything else could be speculation which for now seems to point to battery as culprit. My phone gets pretty hot, when on fast charge, so I disabled it for now. But I'm thinking if the connection is not perfect, it could cause problems. I think the phone is charging at something over 10 Watts, my soldering iron is 30W.
i've been very happy with my note 7 so far. i luckily havent come across any of the issues some other ppl in this forum have. i did read about the international note 7 bricking randomly and not being able to factory restore it. but there havent been any reports of the qualcomm version doing that. so the exynos is faster and less lag but there's a chance of a random brick and the qualcomm doesnt brick but many complaints about ui lag. seems samsung hasnt been able to get either right so far. it's definitely a QC issue because it's random units these things are happening to. every manufacturing process has some QC issues come up but they want to keep that below a certain percentage. this seems to be above that percentage.
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i've been very happy with my note 7 so far. i luckily havent come across any of the issues some other ppl in this forum have. i did read about the international note 7 bricking randomly and not being able to factory restore it. but there havent been any reports of the qualcomm version doing that. so the exynos is faster and less lag but there's a chance of a random brick and the qualcomm doesnt brick but many complaints about ui lag. seems samsung hasnt been able to get either right so far. it's definitely a QC issue because it's random units these things are happening to. every manufacturing process has some QC issues come up but they want to keep that below a certain percentage. this seems to be above that percentage.
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Well i have 7 days to exchange in store before I need one shipped so I'm hopeful it will last haha. On the topic of lag I don't notice alot in fact I think it does alot of things faster then my s7 edge for example when I start up I can enter my pin right away my s7 edge didn't even register a keypress for quite a few seconds after it popped up. This I can get into the phone in no time.
I'm experiencing the below with my TMO | Onyx black | Made in China (apparently there are 3 countries making them, china, korea, vietnam)
Running hot for no reason
Poor battery life
UI lag
Poor touch screen sensitivity - 1 in 5 key presses when typing is lost and other various touch recognition drop outs
If it's running hot, very possible some software crashed and its looping. First thing I would do is restart, then check battery screen to see what using it the most, maybe download something like 3C toolbox for better picture. Just make sure you're not in some particular spot where reception is spotty and it constantly goes in and out of network or keep switching towers.
Well though it doesn't sound like ours will be part of it I just read that Samsung will be recalling the note 7 in several markets due to a faulty battery used during manufacturing. Though more information will be provided in the next few days from Samsung. http://www.sammobile.com/2016/09/01/galaxy-note-7-recall-will-reportedly-be-announced-soon/
If the battery was the issue, it would be so much simpler on the older, non sealed models like S5, which was water proof and had easy battery access. All would they had to do is mail new batt. to customers. Maybe some good comes out of this, like easy to open back in the future.
The only issue i have had is with users stating there are issues. Out of all the Samsung phones i have had 10 plus this is by far the best.
Now appears that the recall will be global. And samsung is in talks with the carriers on how to go about returning and exchanging phones already sold. Never had to deal with a phone recall before.
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I'm experiencing the below with my TMO | Onyx black | Made in China (apparently there are 3 countries making them, china, korea, vietnam)
Running hot for no reason
Poor battery life
UI lag
Poor touch screen sensitivity - 1 in 5 key presses when typing is lost and other various touch recognition drop outs
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I have had all of those issues on top of no signal for long periods and I just got the phone yesterday. I have had every Note except the 4 with none of these issues. Pretty disappointed.
Hello everyone!
Background (less important): So, I've been looking at getting a Oneplus phone for a while but when my last 2 phones died back to back, I got an S6 from insurance. Problem with the S6 being just about everything (no SD card expansion, no removable battery, no rooting abilities, etc). I've been keeping an eye out for the right time to get a new device and, now that my device memory is full, I'm looking at a new phone.
I was looking at picking up either the S7 or the Oneplus 3T. The S7 is under $500 on amazon, which is pretty surprising (thought it would be much more expensive), has expandable SD card support, pretty good battery, good camera, lots of RAM, etc and they just got the ability to root. It also has some cool options like medical sensor stuff, etc (not all that important, just extra bells and whistles).
However, the 3T appears to have a very active rooting/mods community, and overall, many people have said this is the best phone they've ever had so I'm leaning towards picking that up. The only downsides I've seen/heard are the camera on the 3T isn't as good (definitely not the end of the world, it's still an upgrade from my S6) and I've seen a number of battery drain threads and that genuinely concerns me. I understand that those with the issue are likely going to be a lot more vocal than those that have everything working but I was hoping to gauge how much of a concern this really is and if anyone has determined the cause of the battery drain and if there's a solution. What I don't want to do is get a developer friendly phone that dies super quick (I understand it charges fast too but I don;t want to rely on that).
Anyway, this is kind of an important decision for me as my goal is to keep a phone for 3 years so I'm looking for a phone that is pretty well future proof (for a while, I know 3 years is a long time in the technology field) and I don't want to "settle" for a phone that's going to give me nothing but headaches.
If you guys could help me understand how big of a deal the battery drain is, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Okay here's the deal. You're posting in the Oneplus 3T forum and people are clearly going to be biased, you're lucky I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 7 and my girlfriend has an S7 Edge.
The experience you're going to get with a Samsung is far richer in features and the camera is superior. The phone just yells premium out of it's every part. The microphone will record your voice better as well.
However, if you're looking for a future proof phone the Oneplus 3T is clearly a winner. People are crying about drain and SoT simply because they're more pretentious and pay more attention to details than Samsung users. All Android phones have some sort of drain and with time, stock ROMs get more laggy and battery consuming. The advantage you have on oneplus is that you can apply all sorts of custom ROMs, kernels and mods to squeeze out the most of your battery, while on Samsung you're more prone of getting stuck with drain sooner or later.
Here's where OP3T's top card comes, dash charge is amazing. At this point I don't even care about SoT since I can charge my phone to 60% in 30m. I'm getting 4-5 hours of SoT without tweaks and 4G always on data using stock ROM. Who even wants to stick their eyes in the phone screen for more than that?
You can't go wrong with the OP3T unless you're willing to wait for the next oneplus.
Bottom line, the drain people have been experiencing on OxygenOS 4.0.3 is of little concern, especially since it's improves with Beta 12 7.1.1. Stop overthinking and get the phone you like.
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Okay here's the deal. You're posting in the Oneplus 3T forum and people are clearly going to be biased, you're lucky I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 7 and my girlfriend has an S7 Edge.
The experience you're going to get with a Samsung is far richer in features and the camera is superior. The phone just yells premium out of it's every part. The microphone will record your voice better as well.
However, if you're looking for a future proof phone the Oneplus 3T is clearly a winner. People are crying about drain and SoT simply because they're more pretentious and pay more attention to details than Samsung users. All Android phones have some sort of drain and with time, stock ROMs get more laggy and battery consuming. The advantage you have on oneplus is that you can apply all sorts of custom ROMs, kernels and mods to squeeze out the most of your battery, while on Samsung you're more prone of getting stuck with drain sooner or later.
Here's where OP3T's top card comes, dash charge is amazing. At this point I don't even care about SoT since I can charge my phone to 60% in 30m. I'm getting 4-5 hours of SoT without tweaks and 4G always on data using stock ROM. Who even wants to stick their eyes in the phone screen for more than that?
You can't go wrong with the OP3T unless you're willing to wait for the next oneplus.
Bottom line, the drain people have been experiencing on OxygenOS 4.0.3 is of little concern, especially since it's improves with Beta 12 7.1.1. Stop overthinking and get the phone you like.
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So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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I think that that's what he wants to tell you. To myself : I have the 3T since yesterday and since I'm coming from a M8 it's a huge upgrade for me. But for your comparison : my brother has the S7 and plenty of my friends have the S7E. S7E is in my opinion a superior phone in terms of camera, mic, display, waterproof .. etc. All the things that make the S7/E more superior is only because Sammy has done a better job, BUT what they didn't was to make the phone future proof. The thing with OP3T is that it also does/contains all of the superior things, it's just not that good. The camera is fine for me, I don't care about waterproofness, a 2K display is nice but you won't notice the difference anyway except for the brightness if you compare them both side by side. I'm pretty sure I've made my point.
Now for the 3T's battery drain : I was still on OxygenOS 3.5.4 because I didn't felt the urge to update. Woke up at 7 AM and plugged it out, somewhere between 10 - 11 AM I was on something like 27 percent. It was somehow strange but ok. Now that I couldn't resist to flash CM13 I've noticed a HUGE difference. I flashed CM13 at around 5 PM while I was charging it (was at 90% at 5PM) and now after 4h of using it I'm at 68%. Huge differnce no doubt and I'm staying at CM13.
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I think that that's what he wants to tell you. To myself : I have the 3T since yesterday and since I'm coming from a M8 it's a huge upgrade for me. But for your comparison : my brother has the S7 and plenty of my friends have the S7E. S7E is in my opinion a superior phone in terms of camera, mic, display, waterproof .. etc. All the things that make the S7/E more superior is only because Sammy has done a better job, BUT what they didn't was to make the phone future proof. The thing with OP3T is that it also does/contains all of the superior things, it's just not that good. The camera is fine for me, I don't care about waterproofness, a 2K display is nice but you won't notice the difference anyway except for the brightness if you compare them both side by side. I'm pretty sure I've made my point.
Now for the 3T's battery drain : I was still on OxygenOS 3.5.4 because I didn't felt the urge to update. Woke up at 7 AM and plugged it out, somewhere between 10 - 11 AM I was on something like 27 percent. It was somehow strange but ok. Now that I couldn't resist to flash CM13 I've noticed a HUGE difference. I flashed CM13 at around 5 PM while I was charging it (was at 90% at 5PM) and now after 4h of using it I'm at 68%. Huge differnce no doubt and I'm staying at CM13.
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Thanks for the advice, particularly about the future proofing. I honestly don't get why Samsung hasn't moved to a USB C connector yet . . . Seems like a no brainer, that's clearly the direction everything is heading.
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So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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Yeah, that's my opinion based on experience as a former Oneplus One, Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and current Oneplus 3T user. People mostly started complaining about drain with OOS4.0.3 (latest current stock) and it will definitely be fixed with OOS nougat 7.1.1. This "battery drain" stigma that you're currently placing on the OP3T has been placed on all major flagships at some point. I can't be certain how well this device will be officially updated in the future, or how the battery will hold up after many many cycles, but i can assure you it will hold up better than an S7.
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Thanks for the advice, particularly about the future proofing. I honestly don't get why Samsung hasn't moved to a USB C connector yet . . . Seems like a no brainer, that's clearly the direction everything is heading.
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They did have USB-C on the Note 7. At the point of S7 launch it wasn't that widespread.
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Yeah, that's my opinion based on experience as a former Oneplus One, Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and current Oneplus 3T user. People mostly started complaining about drain with OOS4.0.3 (latest current stock) and it will definitely be fixed with OOS nougat 7.1.1. This "battery drain" stigma that you're currently placing on the OP3T has been placed on all major flagships at some point. I can't be certain how well this device will be officially updated in the future, or how the battery will hold up after many many cycles, but i can assure you it will hold up better than an S7.
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I'm actually really glad you mentioned that because, you're right, I have definitely experienced various stages of battery drain between updates on Samsung devices except I didn't get to choose when or if I wanted to update with those. At least I'll now be in control of those things! Made up my mind, ordering the Oneplus 3T now! Thanks!
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I'm actually really glad you mentioned that because, you're right, I have definitely experienced various stages of battery drain between updates on Samsung devices except I didn't get to choose when or if I wanted to update with those. At least I'll now be in control of those things! Made up my mind, ordering the Oneplus 3T now! Thanks!
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I am certain you won't regret getting this device. Let me know if you need any help or have any more questions via PM.
6-7 hour of sot per charge every 22-28 hours.
technology is weird. people can get battery drains for all kinds of reasons. google services may be a reason. or some wakelock by some random app that never was a problem, but after installing it on a certain rom on a certain phone it suddenly is a problem. and weirdly enough you are the only one experiencing it. it might be something with the rom where a factory reset may help. some people go ahead and flash another rom and then it is gone. sometimes they make the wrong conclusion that it is the roms fault. or the kernels or whatever. it happens on every phone. just go to a random phones forum and you will find threads with people complaining about battery drain. and they will be the only ones with this particular issue. the vast majority of users does not have such issues. if they do you will find out about it soon enough and after some time there will be an update that fixes it.
my sot is around 5 hours depending on what i do. using media like movies gives you more screen time, heavy gaming gives you less screen time.
I'm going to buy the Moto G6 to replace a phone which recently stopped working.
Are there any major issues I should know about the phone before I commit?
Yes, absolutely. The phone comes with Android 8 Oreo, then is later updated to Android 9 Pie. That Pie update pretty much ruins the phone. It becomes very laggy and non-responsive. There is a 56-page thread on the Lenovo/Motorola forum on this problem. It appears Motorola is doing nothing to fix the problem, or even acknowledge it.
It's possible that doing a "Rescue" using the Lenovo Moto Smart Assistant will fix the problem, but there haven't been enough reports from those who've tried that to be sure about the result. I don't think anyone should buy the G6 at this point. If you have to have a Motorola phone, the G7 would probably be a safer option. But consider buying another brand.
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I'm going to buy the Moto G6 to replace a phone which recently stopped working.
Are there any major issues I should know about the phone before I commit?
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Got a new one a week or so a go and so far so good. No problems whatsoever. A clean flash of the LATEST full firmware fixes ANY lag issues
ev1lchris said:
I'm going to buy the Moto G6 to replace a phone which recently stopped working.
Are there any major issues I should know about the phone before I commit?
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One month with mine, so far so good. Excellent battery and decent game performance with October 1st patch.
I decided to get the Moto X Force. It's like 32 GB more storage, 21 MP camera, and dual SIM for the same price point...
... and I'm getting a 2-year warranty just in case it's a lemon.
vibraniumdroid said:
Got a new one a week or so a go and so far so good. No problems whatsoever. A clean flash of the LATEST full firmware fixes ANY lag issues
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It's been everyone's hope that this would work. Did you use the LMSA app to do the flashing, or something else?
Peabody424 said:
It's been everyone's hope that this would work. Did you use the LMSA app to do the flashing, or something else?
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No... Just the full stock from lolinet using fastboot
The RETAIL one should work on all US variants I think
Haven't tried any others
vibraniumdroid said:
Got a new one a week or so a go and so far so good. No problems whatsoever. A clean flash of the LATEST full firmware fixes ANY lag issues
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I have just unboxed two G6 to prepare them for family members. I've gone through all the available OTA-Updates without doing anything else with the phone before.
Now it's sitting with Android 8.0.0 and security patch level September 2018 and it is claiming that this is the latest SW available.
Is there anything special to do in order to get the further updates?
That's very interesting information. I believe all the US G6 phones have been provided updates to Android 9 Pie, but I don't know about the European models. I guess there is a chance that Motorola has stopped upgrading to Pie in view of all the problems many have had as a result. For the US phones, all the updates were provided automatically, one at a time, and I believe the latest one is the October, 2019, update.
OK, Motorola's support told me that I have to install a SIM card to see all the further updates.
I have throwed in my own SIM and then I was able to go to a whole bunch of further updates ending up with Android 9 and October 2019 patch level as expected.
Now I am curious whether or not I am able to reproduce the widely reported lagginess...
I ordered this phone for my gf's xmas present today, she's looking forward to it and overdue for an upgrade. I never had any complaints with motorola phones and previously owned a moto g4. IMO they are still the best budget smartphones today. I always update new phones out of box to the latest software and then factory reset to avoid any possible glitches. And if my OCD kicks in I'll do factory reset twice lol, never had any software issues/lags after that. Some dislike the logo at the bottom of the phone, I actually like it. Already saw like 4 or 5 reviews for this phone on youtube including the pie update, so far it's everything I expected until it arrives.
xrig said:
OK, Motorola's support told me that I have to install a SIM card to see all the further updates.
I have throwed in my own SIM and then I was able to go to a whole bunch of further updates ending up with Android 9 and October 2019 patch level as expected.
Now I am curious whether or not I am able to reproduce the widely reported lagginess...
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I've been watching threads on G6 lag for awhile. I'm looking forward to your update. Based on what you've heard from Motorola regarding the need to install a SIM to get the latest updates, I'm wondering if lag problems are related to the carrier you're using. I'm using Sprint, and I'm experiencing lag.
KryptonKal-El said:
I ordered this phone for my gf's xmas present today, she's looking forward to it and overdue for an upgrade. I never had any complaints with motorola phones and previously owned a moto g4. IMO they are still the best budget smartphones today. I always update new phones out of box to the latest software and then factory reset to avoid any possible glitches. And if my OCD kicks in I'll do factory reset twice lol, never had any software issues/lags after that. Some dislike the logo at the bottom of the phone, I actually like it. Already saw like 4 or 5 reviews for this phone on youtube including the pie update, so far it's everything I expected until it arrives.
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Multiple people have reported that factory resets -- there are evidently a couple different ways to do it -- have improved the lag problem but that it returns after a short time. I've yet to see a report that confirms a factory reset has "solved" the lag problem. I'm hoping I just missed it.
Also, just to counter your experience in case others are interested, I had a G4 too. It developed a hardware problem after less than 2 years and wouldn't play any audio. I discarded it for the G6 I have now and, after less than two years, it's been all but ruined by the Android 9 update.
I'm really hopeful to see confirmation here or elsewhere that there is a definitive "fix" for the lag issue on this phone.
FrogFan said:
I've been watching threads on G6 lag for awhile. I'm looking forward to your update. Based on what you've heard from Motorola regarding the need to install a SIM to get the latest updates, I'm wondering if lag problems are related to the carrier you're using. I'm using Sprint, and I'm experiencing lag.
Multiple people have reported that factory resets -- there are evidently a couple different ways to do it -- have improved the lag problem but that it returns after a short time. I've yet to see a report that confirms a factory reset has "solved" the lag problem. I'm hoping I just missed it.
Also, just to counter your experience in case others are interested, I had a G4 too. It developed a hardware problem after less than 2 years and wouldn't play any audio. I discarded it for the G6 I have now and, after less than two years, it's been all but ruined by the Android 9 update.
I'm really hopeful to see confirmation here or elsewhere that there is a definitive "fix" for the lag issue on this phone.
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I bought the G4 for my mom, kept it stock and updated for 2 years never had any lag or hardware issues, still runs like OOB experience and runs perfect today. Forgot to mention another Motorola that I still have in excellent/like new condition, my FAVORITE phone of all time and wish they can make a replica with today's specs....my Nexus 6. Damn I miss that phone, trying out different roms, painting my front facing speaker grills with glow in the dark neon colors lol, using it for VR, it was impossible to brick and now it just sits in a shoe box with my other spare phones. All my phones are kept in military grade cases with screen protectors can't speak for hardware issues. I'll let you know how it goes after getting the G6 and setting it up with the latest software update.
KryptonKal-El said:
I bought the G4 for my mom, kept it stock and updated for 2 years never had any lag or hardware issues, still runs like OOB experience and runs perfect today. Forgot to mention another Motorola that I still have in excellent/like new condition, my FAVORITE phone of all time and wish they can make a replica with today's specs....my Nexus 6. Damn I miss that phone, trying out different roms, painting my front facing speaker grills with glow in the dark neon colors lol, using it for VR, it was impossible to brick and now it just sits in a shoe box with my other spare phones. All my phones are kept in military grade cases with screen protectors can't speak for hardware issues. I'll let you know how it goes after getting the G6 and setting it up with the latest software update.
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I'm glad your experience has been better than mine. For the record, I re-flashed the firmware on my phone yesterday using LMSA. It's been less than a full day so far, but I can report that the phone is running like new. Of course, re-flashing does a factory reset and there are numerous settings that won't back up, so there is a fair bit of work to do to get the phone running the way it was. Also, I did a backup using LMSA, but after the re-flash, I couldn't find that backup with LMSA. Fortunately, I also backed up to the cloud and was able to restore everything that could be restored.
FrogFan said:
I've been watching threads on G6 lag for awhile. I'm looking forward to your update. Based on what you've heard from Motorola regarding the need to install a SIM to get the latest updates, I'm wondering if lag problems are related to the carrier you're using. I'm using Sprint, and I'm experiencing lag.
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I am in Germany and in order to get all the updates I have inserted a SIM from Deutsche Telekom. After the last update package (the whole process took a hell of a lot of individual updates and reboots) I have done a full factory reset as well. Now the phones are provisioned for my kids. I am sure they will complain if the devices should become slower with time and more and more games installed.
Got the phone, did OTA updates without sim card and after 2 hours later it's running the latest software version 9.0 (October 2019). Did a factory reset/clear cache through recovery mode, set the phone back up and I loaded back all the apps, everything is running smooth so far, no complaints yet.