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Upgrade to Window 7 or downgrade to Windows XP

Anyone that using shift with windows 7 or windows XP, which is the best OS for shift?just asking the opinion and one question, If using external USB DVD to install windows XP or windows 7 are the hardisk backup image for windows vista business original also erase?because when I loading the setup cannot find the backup rom image for windows vista business.. how can I view on setup screen..

Setup windows XP
if I on the blue screen setup, only show hardisk 40gb but if i format the windows vista.. if I bored using the windows XP and want to recover back to windows vista?Can i recover back using FN + F3

putrawanz said:
if I on the blue screen setup, only show hardisk 40gb but if i format the windows vista.. if I bored using the windows XP and want to recover back to windows vista?Can i recover back using FN + F3
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The recovery partition is hidden (HPA - Host Protected Area) and will not be affected if you install a different OS. You can still recover using Fn+F3

can it revert back after install another OS?
deadnex said:
The recovery partition is hidden (HPA - Host Protected Area) and will not be affected if you install a different OS. You can still recover using Fn+F3
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oh.. thats mean if i format the harddisk to install windows xp or windows 7,if i want to revert back to vista just press fn + f3 right?that mean if i for c: in blue screen the recovery cannot been deleted right?sorry for my question,because i'm still confusing

That is correct...Vista is always there for a backup via Fcn F3....unless your hard drive fails....

now i know.. thanks FOOFTR
FOOFTR said:
That is correct...Vista is always there for a backup via Fcn F3....unless your hard drive fails....
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thanks FOOFTR for the explaination about the recovery. Then if the hard drive is fail can i change with the new hardrive and get the recovery function.. anyone can tell me how to backup the recovery partition

Dual Boot
Hi,
I have both XP and W7 installed.
Windows 7:
W7 runs just as smoothly as XP, so that is no isue.
W7 gives me half an hour more battery time!
But:
There are some programs that W7 doesnot run for me: My Musical Score program, and my network printer driver
Windows XP:
XP runs just as smoothly as W7.
Xp is known so very easy to work with, I know where everyting is...
XP Everything works with XP!
But: shorter battery time.
No right-click circle.
I like Windows 7 better.
It just looks better and the overall feel is smoother. I doesnot really run faster than XP it just feels that way
However I still have XP installed because I need my music program and I might want to print something....
Usualy, on the road, in the train etc. For browsing emailing etc. I use W7.
For productivity I still have to use XP.
I am working on gettin W7 to do it all...
greetz,
I hope I was helpfull,
Pfeffa-rah

Pfeffa-rah said:
Hi,
I have both XP and W7 installed.
Windows 7:
W7 runs just as smoothly as XP, so that is no isue.
W7 gives me half an hour more battery time!
But:
There are some programs that W7 doesnot run for me: My Musical Score program, and my network printer driver
Windows XP:
XP runs just as smoothly as W7.
Xp is known so very easy to work with, I know where everyting is...
XP Everything works with XP!
But: shorter battery time.
No right-click circle.
I like Windows 7 better.
It just looks better and the overall feel is smoother. I doesnot really run faster than XP it just feels that way
However I still have XP installed because I need my music program and I might want to print something....
Usualy, on the road, in the train etc. For browsing emailing etc. I use W7.
For productivity I still have to use XP.
I am working on gettin W7 to do it all...
greetz,
I hope I was helpfull,
Pfeffa-rah
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you should try running a virtual pc with windows 98 in it or someting for the printing instead.

i installed windows xp and all working fine
but i'm not to connect to the internet thru snapvue like how it was in vista using command manager
any body hav sulotion for this

Windows XP on PDA =)

Hello i am new to posting on this site but a long time reader and i have a Xda mini S (wizard).
anyway
i have been looking around the internet because of a crazy idea in my mind.
The idea came to me yesterday after upgrading my rom to WM6.1 then to WM6.5
So am looking at WM6.5 and just am thinking wouldnt it be nice to have Windows Xp on my phone so can be like a portable laptop with calling and texting.
i saw some thing about it for a different pda i think
so was just wondering is it possible to upgrade the rom and install XP on a Xda Mini s.
Doesnt have to be like the Desktop version it can be a mini remake.
as long as its possible to flash it again afterwards if i change my mind about it.
Anyone have any ideas for me ?

An easy way to fix this is via citrix, or via vmware...

well you must be a retard to think xp run on wizard is no such thing runnning xp on a pda close thread please...

@HackWindows
Take a look at windows 98/XP on PDA!!!!!.
@RDilus
Great answer. Maybe next time someone have a question you beat him up .

RDilus said:
well you must be a retard to think xp run on wizard is no such thing runnning xp on a pda close thread please...
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Dont See why PDA cuddnt run WINDOWS even if its a early version Most PDA specs match up + whats the point in answering on this post if you gonna say stuff like that ... your obviously not being helpfull.
Delete you account and not the thread =/

samxein said:
@HackWindows
Take a look at windows 98/XP on PDA!!!!!.
@RDilus
Great answer. Maybe next time someone have a question you beat him up .
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cheers i will do some more research on this

RDilus said:
well you must be a retard to think xp run on wizard is no such thing runnning xp on a pda close thread please...
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be more polite....

XP Phone
Check this website. To bad they created a phone that runs XP and not a phone on vista or 7

RDilus said:
well you must be a retard to think xp run on wizard is no such thing runnning xp on a pda close thread please...
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And here - -> http://www.intomobile.com/2009/09/17/preorders-open-for-windows-xp-phone.html
Maybe you should think outside the box a little before emphatically saying something isn't possible. Heck, 60 years ago noone thought it possible to carry around a phone withoutwires, or have a computer smaller than the size of a room.

hello,
i wanna say i had win 98.
but.... you have to change resolution with nyditot cause it isn't vga.
and on mine the mouse doesn't work.
just se this lik earlyer said http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362344
.
so goodluck i know it works cause i had it myself.
but as i said no mouse and slow.
just try it is great to see
also watch youtube there are movies about it.

Well, it is impossible to run Windows XP natively, because the architecture of the wizard(or any htc smartphone) differs from the pc architecture.
However, there are 2 ways to "run" xp on your wizard:
1) With an x86 emulator like bochs or qemu; you don't want that because it's even slow on a normal pc, and you still don't have sufficient RAM to run xp.
2) Run xp on a normal pc and use VNC or RDP to control it remotely(so you need a fast internet connection). I believe there an rdp app called "Terminal Services client" on a default wm installation, so I'd go for that one.
If you want to run windows to play games on your pda, I'd advice to forget it, vnc and rdp are not designed for such tasks...

Well, I dig this idea. any one with the know how should be able to port Tablet PC OS into an .nbf file with all the right drivers an stripped of all unnecessary junk ( a minimalist version) . If not a complete os than lookalike may be. May be i am dreaming big but someone should be able to help. I see ppl trying to port Linux/ android on wizard than why not XP?

The Omap processor (which is an ARM processor) isn't powerful enough to Emulate a x86 processor with acceptable speeds and memory to run XP on a wizard (even if XP has been stripped etc..).
Thread closed.

Upgrade to Win 7 without new installation of programs?

Hi guys,
as I read through the threads the upgrade to Win 7, same as the downgrade to Win XP, always requires the new installation of all software application programs that are not bundled with the OS.
i.e. MS Office, FireFox, Navigation software, ......
In June 2009 various news sites confirmed this obstacle.
In the last days I read that there will be (possibly) an upgrade that will not require the user to re-install the application layer programs.
Can anyone confirm or deny this statement.
And if it's confirmed will it be possible for the Shift?
Thnx a lot, guys

If you are upgrading from Vista, it is fine - you can do an in place upgrade and it will bring all your installed programs across.
If you have downgraded to XP, the only way to upgrade whilst preserving all your install programs is to upgrade to Vista first, and the upgrade to Win7 - there is no direct path from XP to Win7.
Regards,
Dave

Yeah, but Vista is still lurking, isn't it?
I'd rather endure installing everything twice (XP and Win7) than have Vista anywhere near my Shift!
In fact I did

foxmeister said:
If you are upgrading from Vista, it is fine - you can do an in place upgrade and it will bring all your installed programs across.
If you have downgraded to XP, the only way to upgrade whilst preserving all your install programs is to upgrade to Vista first, and the upgrade to Win7 - there is no direct path from XP to Win7.
Regards,
Dave
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Hi Dave,
thnx for your information.
I haven't done any downgrading (XP), not even the SP1 for Vista.
I have only liberated the Shift.
The OS is as shipped from HTC, only application programs installed.
If I do an inplace upgrade, will it get rid of all the Vista stuff that slows down the device? Meaning, will it be as good as a "complete from scratch" installation of Win 7?
Second, which version of Win 7 should I get? Home, Professional, RC?
And where do I get it?
Thnx a lot, cheers
baucis99

Yesterday I made a full backup image of my Vista installation. Then I upgraded my HTC Shift to Windows 7 Enterprise RTM from MSDN.
The upgrade process took 3 hours, because it had to migrate 300.000 files and settings from one OS to the other. Before the setup I had 15GiB free on the HDD and after that 18GiB where free! So upgrading Vista to Windows 7 won't leave any old memory chunk on the HDD.
I only had to reinstall the Touchscreen Drivers. Everything else was still there: Several network shares, desktop widgets, explorer settings, all the applications with theirs settings, my two Outlook profiles with their on Exchange setups and so on.
Windows 7 itself also responds faster than with Vista. With the same auto-start applications I have more free RAM available and the OS itself looks much better.
So I can only recommend you to upgrade your Vista to Windows 7.
There is no need for a clean install, as long as your current Vista setup isn't anyhow broken.
After this Windows 7 experience I hope that the prejudice against Windows upgrades will be a thing of the past.
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For the Windows 7 upgrade your Vista needs to have SP1 at least. I upgraded a Vista with SP2 and the latest Windows Update patches. The setup has to be started within Vista, otherwise it won't allow an upgrade. And you don't need to burn the Windows 7 DVD. You can mount it in Vista into a virtual drive or you can extract the ISO files to an folder. Before the first reboot the setup copies all the necessary installation files onto the local HDD. So after that the DVD isn't needed anymore.

LordDeath said:
Yesterday I made a full backup image of my Vista installation. Then I upgraded my HTC Shift to Windows 7 Enterprise RTM from MSDN.
The upgrade process took 3 hours, because it had to migrate 300.000 files and settings from one OS to the other. Before the setup I had 15GiB free on the HDD and after that 18GiB where free! So upgrading Vista to Windows 7 won't leave any old memory chunk on the HDD.
I only had to reinstall the Touchscreen Drivers. Everything else was still there: Several network shares, desktop widgets, explorer settings, all the applications with theirs settings, my two Outlook profiles with their on Exchange setups and so on.
Windows 7 itself also responds faster than with Vista. With the same auto-start applications I have more free RAM available and the OS itself looks much better.
So I can only recommend you to upgrade your Vista to Windows 7.
There is no need for a clean install, as long as your current Vista setup isn't anyhow broken.
After this Windows 7 experience I hope that the prejudice against Windows upgrades will be a thing of the past.
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For the Windows 7 upgrade your Vista needs to have SP1 at least. I upgraded a Vista with SP2 and the latest Windows Update patches. The setup has to be started within Vista, otherwise it won't allow an upgrade. And you don't need to burn the Windows 7 DVD. You can mount it in Vista into a virtual drive or you can extract the ISO files to an folder. Before the first reboot the setup copies all the necessary installation files onto the local HDD. So after that the DVD isn't needed anymore.
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Well i followed these steps - and when windows 7 boots the touch screen did not work as stated - so i downloaded the drivers from the HTC shift page, installed them. Although they did not error - they also did not work - seems to install properly but still not touch screen.
Also when I put the screen to 1024x600 the device bluescreened as it did in the pre-release versions..
Has anyone got Win 7 working (MSDN Release) and all hardware working; if so please share your steps.
Thanks
Kris

baucis99 said:
econd, which version of Win 7 should I get? Home, Professional, RC?
And where do I get it?
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MS have stopped distributing the RC now, but they will still provide product keys for it until Oct'09 (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/download.aspx).
You can get the full RTM version of Win7 if you have an MSDN or Technet subscription, but otherwise you'll have to search the usual sources for a copy of the RC iso (not promoting warez here!).
Regards,
Dave

i00 said:
Well i followed these steps - and when windows 7 boots the touch screen did not work as stated - so i downloaded the drivers from the HTC shift page, installed them. Although they did not error - they also did not work - seems to install properly but still not touch screen.
Also when I put the screen to 1024x600 the device bluescreened as it did in the pre-release versions..
Has anyone got Win 7 working (MSDN Release) and all hardware working; if so please share your steps.
Thanks
Kris
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Hello,
please try to uninstall the the VistaECDrvV1[1].0.1.10 driver first, then reboot, install it again and reboot again. Afaik I did this to activate the touchscreen driver.
Good luck!
And about 1024x600: That is a known problem. The Intel driver creates a BSOD as soon as you use a resolution higher than 800x480. The current workaround is to disable the Aero effects. With Aero Basic you can switch to higher resolutions without crashing the system.
I hope this will be fixed soon.

LordDeath said:
Hello,
please try to uninstall the the VistaECDrvV1[1].0.1.10 driver first, then reboot, install it again and reboot again. Afaik I did this to activate the touchscreen driver.
Good luck!
And about 1024x600: That is a known problem. The Intel driver creates a BSOD as soon as you use a resolution higher than 800x480. The current workaround is to disable the Aero effects. With Aero Basic you can switch to higher resolutions without crashing the system.
I hope this will be fixed soon.
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Ahh ok I didn't uninstall the previous driver 1st just tried to install over it. And I got the impression from #5 that the aero thing would work now - looks like ill be sticking with vista then thanks neway.
Kris

HTC shift (clio 160)
I had to format my htc shift (CLIO 160) and reinstall a new vista ultimate.
But since i done this, wifi and touchscreen doesnt work anymore.
I went on HTC website and downloaded the drivers for MARVELL SD8686 WIRELESS LAN SDIO ADAPTER and driver for touchscreen but it still not working.
Could you please help me.
Thank you

Someone who wanted xp with specific drivers in for dell machines

Hi
someone on this forum wanted to know how to get windows xp with the right drivers in for a lot of dell pcs they were redistributing.
Basically an win xp setup disc with the right drivers for the pc they were installing it on. Instead of having to install the drivers separately.
So i found this link for who ever it was. it relating to windows 7 but may apple to xp as well:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ee530017.aspx
So if that person finds this please let me know.
Thanks
flyboy

I think that it might off been telegraph000 who wanted the drivers but i cant remember.
flyboy

I was PiLoT that was looking for information on how to slipstream drivers for a master deployment image.
Cheers,

thanks i will get in touch with PiLOT
flyboy

[Q] request for install windows 8.1 on nokia lumia 1520!

hi
is it possible to install windows 8.1 on nokia lumia 1520? hardware is good enough and display size is big enough to have windows
I request to find way to do that!

motibala said:
hi
is it possible to install windows 8.1 on nokia lumia 1520? hardware is good enough and display size is big enough to have windows
I request to find way to do that!
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Yes.
You have two possibility:
- Install Windows Phone 8.1 via the Preview for Developers (PFD) program.
- Wait for the official deployment.
I do not give you more information on the PFD, because the official deploy Windows Phone 8.1 (and Lumia Cyan) for Nokia Lumia 1520 should soon began. Also, Microsoft currently stopped for the moment (for a indefinitely period) deploying Windows Phone 8.1/Lumia Cyan on phones equipped with PFD.

anaheiim said:
Yes.
You have two possibility:
- Install Windows Phone 8.1 via the Preview for Developers (PFD) program.
- Wait for the official deployment.
I do not give you more information on the PFD, because the official deploy Windows Phone 8.1 (and Lumia Cyan) for Nokia Lumia 1520 should soon began. Also, Microsoft currently stopped for the moment (for a indefinitely period) deploying Windows Phone 8.1/Lumia Cyan on phones equipped with PFD.
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thanks for your quick reply, I meant hack for windows 8.1 as a computer!

motibala said:
thanks for your quick reply, I meant hack for windows 8.1 as a computer!
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may be Windows RT which is the versión of Windows OS for ARM. Instead of that, think about something, since this is not open source is not possible to Port Windows RT, may be is possible using a virtual machine but that is a lot of work and i dont think anyone will do it for free. Just my two cents ?.

Yeah, the hardware is absolutely not "good enough" for normal Windows 8.1, because that only runs on x86 or x64 CPUs, not on ARM. Windows RT 8.1 is a locked-down version of Windows 8.1 which does run on ARM, but it's not "installable" in the usual sense so you'd need to hack it on there, and its performance on the 1520 would be OK but not tremendous.
The Lumia 2520 tablet is an example of an RT device.

No any way.. Can't do it. Lack of hardware requirements.

Thanks ALL