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Guys,
I have been using a micro SD based CM7.0.2 installation for quite a while now using verygreen's size agnostic SD image on a 16Gb card. I'm going to try 7.0.3 and an OC kernel but I want a backup since this uSD has become my main setup.
I figured I could image the disk win32diskimager (which is what I wrote the original image with) but unfortunately that tool seems to have a limit of 4Gb on the image file. So, what tool are 16Gb+ uSD card user using to back up your SD card? I want it to image the entire card with all partitions that way I can just backup the entire OS and all my data in one shot.
Any tips or pointers appreciated!
http://www.winimage.com/winimage.htm
It ain't free, but it works.
Rodney
zenaxe said:
Guys,
I have been using a micro SD based CM7.0.2 installation for quite a while now using verygreen's size agnostic SD image on a 16Gb card. I'm going to try 7.0.3 and an OC kernel but I want a backup since this uSD has become my main setup.
I figured I could image the disk win32diskimager (which is what I wrote the original image with) but unfortunately that tool seems to have a limit of 4Gb on the image file. So, what tool are 16Gb+ uSD card user using to back up your SD card? I want it to image the entire card with all partitions that way I can just backup the entire OS and all my data in one shot.
Any tips or pointers appreciated!
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I've used win32diskimager multiple times to do just that with 16GB Sandisk cards. The image file in my case is 4.1G (as most of it is empty space anyway)
Every one of my SDs is archived this way whenever I update a new build/kernel.
I've never had more than 3G of files on any card so I can't speak to what happens if the actual content is 4G or greater.
My SD card is about 13 to 14Gb full.... my image is coming out @ exactly 4.0gb, I figured there might be some compression going on, but > 3 to 1 struck me as a little too good, so I'm not trusting win32diskimager.
zenaxe said:
My SD card is about 13 to 14Gb full.... my image is coming out @ exactly 4.0gb, I figured there might be some compression going on, but > 3 to 1 struck me as a little too good, so I'm not trusting win32diskimager.
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What OS/File system are you using? I seem to recall FAT32 having a file size limit of 4GB. That could be what you are running into.
- Aerlock
I'll take a look. It's a Windows Vista desktop PC so I'd expect HDDs to be formatted NTFS but I haven't explicitly checked.
EDIT: It's NTFS. So that's not the issue. Chokes on more than one computer.
If you can not back up the whole disk image,
how about backing up just all your data files with the USB connection onto your pc?
It seems that each app has their own directory for their data.
Those directories can be copied directly with the USB connection.
This way you can have a new build anytime and still have all your data available.
I'm not sure I understand the concept of backup. What exactly are we backing up? I was under the impression that you can go from one CM7 release to another without losing anything.
It is true that one can update the system with old data intact.
But somebody may feel better if they have their data saved somewhere so that if something happen to the system, they can have their data available to them.
This is espicially true if you are using one device and if you have all your data on that device.
bike2002 said:
It is true that one can update the system with old data intact.
But somebody may feel better if they have their data saved somewhere so that if something happen to the system, they can have their data available to them.
This is espicially true if you are using one device and if you have all your data on that device.
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Or if you want to boot multiple OSes/mods and have a stable fall back point, or if you think a curious kid may pop your card out of your nook and lose it, or if the device is lost/stolen, or the new version of the OS your using is not so good/stable after all (happened to me w/ CM7 nightlies), or there's a hardware failure (SD cards are fragile and have a limited life), etc, etc, etc, etc.
Seriously, if you care about your data even in the slightest only an idiot would rely on everything working perfectly all the time, especially on a removable media, much less one that is tiny, and not ultra durable. Not mention the funky partitioning etc under windows, such that it is only readable when in the device and booted.
Anyway, winimage works but it p*sses me off since it's not free. Still dunno why the other tool chokes, it's gotta be some "32 bit" thing.
I could never get win32diskimager to image my 8gb or 32gb SD card it would die at about 90%...I may go for win image. I understand what you are trying to do. I use my 8gb as a default to boot into cm7 recovery when all else fails. Right now i just use titanium backup for my data.
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Anyway, winimage works but it p*sses me off since it's not free. Still dunno why the other tool chokes, it's gotta be some "32 bit" thing.
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Do you have to pay to create a virtual image? I downloaed it but cant do much in "test mode"
Hello.
This is my first post.
I have seen the noob video, I know I am not special. And still:
I have searched the forums, but my problem is different. Most of the posters don't know what caused this error. I know what caused mine. I have actually unexpectedly removed the SD Card. Kind of. Funny story: transferring data (green bar on windows not loaded at all, window stuck on calculating time/finding files etc -technically no data has been transferred), windows explorer decides to go all "Not responding" on me (thank you microsoft). The genius in me tells me to unplug the phone, so I do. Yay! explorer.exe is ok now. Too bad my SD card isn't.
There are some files on it... but none of the folders that I created, so I lost everything except photos and stuff. I have backed them up on my PC. When I connect my phone (which I have to do manually by going into USB settings so that my PC recognizes anything -auto play doesn't appear anymore-), instead of showing up as my phone, it shows up as a media device with stuff on it (folders like Android, DCIM, but none of my manually created folders containing music etc.).
I repeat, I have actually unexpectedly removed my SD card.
I right clicked on the drive in the PC and clicked Format. It warned me. I didn't care, I was desperate. In just one second, it said formatting complete. No files missing, however (still those Android, DCIM etc. folders).
I have a Samsung Galaxy S Advance GT-I9070 (this forum section, I think). I have flashed the I9070XXLQ4 (android 4.1.2) from Russia on it (a few weeks ago). Not root, or any custom ROM's.
Recap. I have unexpectedly removed my SD card. I want my games back. Or at least formatting it, making it usable.
Formatting the SD card from the phone settings has done it. I am a noob.
try formatting the sdcard on your phone thru the settings>storage..
re-download all your games or transfer them on the sdcard after the format.. if you have back up on your pc or other storage..
as for your pc.. try a reboot.. to correct the drivers of your phone as storage device..
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try formatting the sdcard on your phone thru the settings>storage..
re-download all your games or transfer them on the sdcard after the format.. if you have back up on your pc or other storage..
as for your pc.. try a reboot.. to correct the drivers of your phone as storage device..
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Thanks, I've managed to do that before you posted (but I'm a noob and I can't edit posts so quickly). It did it. Although I was hoping not to lose everything.
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Thanks, I've managed to do that before you posted (but I'm a noob and I can't edit posts so quickly). It did it. Although I was hoping not to lose everything.
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is your sdcard a genuine one?.. no offense.. but there are a lot of fake sdcards in the market today..
actually i have a fake one.. its 8gb.. now, half of it is corrupted already.. my tablet hung due to it..
Hi guys.
I hope it's not the wrong thing to revive this old thread.
I was recently installing an RUU onto my phone. After the install completed, the phone restarted and it began checking the SD card again for an RUU - and it found one, as I had not by then removed/renamed it. So, after waiting for it to verify the RUU, selecting "no" to installing it, it restarted again and again it started looking for an RUU. By this time, I was getting impatient, so I tried to remove the SD card quickly before any actual data access happened.
WRONG
My SD card became RAW, inaccessible to Android or Windows. Testdisk and various free versions of paid-for undelete tools (like EaseUS) found only files from waaaaay back, before I had ever used the card in Android. As a precaution, I took two RAW copies of the full card onto two harddisks and compared the MD5 of each (match).
A little wary of the risk of using various features of testdisk, I thought the best thing to do next was a format (not quick format) to exFAT in windows and run all the undelete tools again. No results. Then I found this thread and, as suggested, tried formatting using Android. All software returned no results again.
What else can I do? The contents of the card should still be as they were (unless the formatting twice effected that). Am I correct to assume that the card (128gb) would have been formatted exFAT by Android 5/6?
In testdisk, are "superblock" or "boot" forms of recovery any relevance to me?
Thank you!
(PS: Android is working fine, I'm only having problems with the SD card contents)
I've been looking all morning, but nobody can seem to answer my questions. I apologize if this has already been covered, or if this is the wrong location.
I've got a Motorola Droid Bionic & I was able to get CyanogenMod 10.1 installed by following their instructions:
http : // wiki. cyanogenmod. org/w/Install_CM_for_targa[/url]
I am BLOWN AWAY by the speed and polish of this ROM and am looking to make it permanent. However, I have some questions:
1. I'm currently using it SafeStrapp'ed (custom rom slot 1). When I create the ROM area, it takes away the space from the internal SD card. What is that space used for? App installs? (Currently its only 1,2, or 3GB choices)
2. If I use SafeStrap to replace the stock ROM, will the SafeStrap restore be able to put everything back? My phone is running the 4.1.2 build.
3. Will I be able to use TitaniumBackup to restore the older Camera app to see if that will make it work?
Steve.Cena said:
I've been looking all morning, but nobody can seem to answer my questions. I apologize if this has already been covered, or if this is the wrong location.
I've got a Motorola Droid Bionic & I was able to get CyanogenMod 10.1 installed by following their instructions:
http : // wiki. cyanogenmod. org/w/Install_CM_for_targa[/url]
I am BLOWN AWAY by the speed and polish of this ROM and am looking to make it permanent. However, I have some questions:
1. I'm currently using it SafeStrapp'ed (custom rom slot 1). When I create the ROM area, it takes away the space from the internal SD card. What is that space used for? App installs? (Currently its only 1,2, or 3GB choices)
2. If I use SafeStrap to replace the stock ROM, will the SafeStrap restore be able to put everything back? My phone is running the 4.1.2 build.
3. Will I be able to use TitaniumBackup to restore the older Camera app to see if that will make it work?
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1. Motorola had the great idea of taking the 16g of internal storage and dividing it in two; half for the opertating system, the other half formatted as a permanent SD card, and it functions as such. SafeStrap creates its slots in this internal SD card. When you connect your phone to the computer, you may have noticed that two drives/volumes are mounted. One is your external, one your internal SD card.
2. Not sure what you're asking. When you activate a different slot and flash a new rom to it, the phone is running off of that partition of the internal SD card. The stock rom is untouched. If you have different roms in different slots, the roms don't have anything to do with each other. If you're asking about wiping the stock rom, then you're looking for trouble.
3. I'm not sure if you can restore the old camera, but the new camera works wayyy better than the old one imho.
jethead102 said:
1. Motorola had the great idea of taking the 16g of internal storage and dividing it in two; half for the opertating syha, the other half formatted as a permanent SD card, and it functions as such. SafeStrap creates its slots in this internal SD card. When you connect your phone to the computer, you may have noticed that two drives/volumes are mounted. One is your external, one your internal SD card.
2. Not sure what you're asking. When you activate a different slot and flash a new rom to it, the phone is running off of that partition of the internal SD card. The stock rom is untouched. If you have different roms in different slots, the roms don't have anything to do with each other. If you're asking about wiping the stock rom, then you're looking for trouble.
3. I'm not sure if you can restore the old camera, but the new camera works wayyy better than the old one imho.
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The camera works smoothly. More attractive than the stock camera, but the pictures are very grainy. And I've heard there are issues with video. I'm looking for the same solution on the same phone. Its a very nice ROM, except for the camera. I also like how well gsm functionality has been entergrated into settings. Makes it finally feel like the world phone it was built (not hacked) to be.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP! I'm dead new with android and just got a Nook HD+ 32gb (groupon deal $130)
anyway, I've done a ton of reading on here and watched a bunch of youtube vids- i don't know if people use overlapping terminology that means the same things or what.. and also seems like theres a lot of opinions in the forums.
I want basically the full android experience and root access- like i said, never used any android, but i like toying around with these things. BUT i also really want a fully stable platform- don't want constant crashing or it reseting on me.
questions i have-
1)the CWM is the "program" (don't know the correct terminology) that basically gives me the access to back up and install new roms, root, etc? TWRP does the same thing- but i understand you don't use that?
2)If i have a BRAND NEW nook HD+ do i need to back it up before messing with it OR are the "stock rom" zips you provided just that?
2) with the SD card image, do i need to put a specific image on the specified sd card. i.e. 4gb SD gets a 4gb image? or is the image universal to whatever size SD card i get?
2a) What problems am i going to run into using my mac to make the SD card, if any? what program do i need to use?
4) when you back up through CWM where does it save it? to the SD card?
4a) this is where i was confused about the image, reading into some of the posts it led me to think the image file took up the entirety of the
SD card.
4b)So in the future i could just boot from the SD card and would have the option to flash the stock rom back on the HD+ if desired? and/or
go back to CM?
5) what is DUALBOOTING? and NANDROID? how do they tie into CWM and CM10. very confused about this.
6) any disadvantage to flashing the EMMC vs booting from SD card every time? I THINK i want to flash the emmc, i don't want to be tied to booting from the SD card everytime- if I'm understanding that correctly.
7)what is this "trim" lag problem? couldn't really figure out what people were talking about.
thanks a ton for any help you can give me- I'm sure you receive a lot of questions!
-Sonny
santinod15 said:
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP! I'm dead new with android and just got a Nook HD+ 32gb (groupon deal $130)
anyway, I've done a ton of reading on here and watched a bunch of youtube vids- i don't know if people use overlapping terminology that means the same things or what.. and also seems like theres a lot of opinions in the forums.
I want basically the full android experience and root access- like i said, never used any android, but i like toying around with these things. BUT i also really want a fully stable platform- don't want constant crashing or it reseting on me.
questions i have-
1)the CWM is the "program" (don't know the correct terminology) that basically gives me the access to back up and install new roms, root, etc? TWRP does the same thing- but i understand you don't use that?
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CWM (ClockworkMod) is a recovery program that allows you to do just what you said. TWRP is also a recovery, but uses the touch screen instead of hardware keys to control it.
2)If i have a BRAND NEW nook HD+ do i need to back it up before messing with it OR are the "stock rom" zips you provided just that?
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You can either use the CWM backup tool to return your device to stock (including any data you have already created, like registration) or the plain stock zips I have will also return you to stock, but the way it was when you got it new before registering.
3) with the SD card image, do i need to put a specific image on the specified sd card. i.e. 4gb SD gets a 4gb image? or is the image universal to whatever size SD card i get?
3a) What problems am i going to run into using my mac to make the SD card, if any? what program do i need to use?
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Since you have a Mac, the best way to do it is the new procedure without burning an image. Since I don't have a Mac, I don't know the exact programs to use. I think SDFormatter comes in a Mac version. And I know there are lots of mac partitioning programs to set the first partition active. And using the procedure does use all of the SD, so it is best to use a relatively small one, 2-4GB.
4) when you back up through CWM where does it save it? to the SD card?
4a) this is where i was confused about the image, reading into some of the posts it led me to think the image file took up the entirety of the
SD card.
4b)So in the future i could just boot from the SD card and would have the option to flash the stock rom back on the HD+ if desired? and/or
go back to CM?
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It saves it either to the SD card or internal memory, you choose.
Yes it uses all of the SD if you use the new procedure. But you need that if you choose to backup to SD. A backup takes about 1.5GB.
And yes, save the SD for future use, like restoring backups or installing new ROMs.
5) what is DUALBOOTING? and NANDROID? how do they tie into CWM and CM10. very confused about this.
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Dual booting means having one operating system on internal memory (also called emmc for Embedded MultiMedia Card) and one installed to a bootable SD. Most people that dual boot have stock on internal and CM on SD. They are separate and independent from each other.
Nandroid just means internal memory. So a nandroid backup means backing up whatever you have on internal memory.
6) any disadvantage to flashing the EMMC vs booting from SD card every time? I THINK i want to flash the emmc, i don't want to be tied to booting from the SD card everytime- if I'm understanding that correctly.
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The only advantage to booting to CM on SD is it leaves internal memory untouched for warranty reasons. The disadvantage is it runs slower and is less stable.
7)what is this "trim" lag problem? couldn't really figure out what people were talking about.
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LAG is a complex issue to explain. If you are used to hard drives getting fragmented and slowing down your system, LAG is similar but a different mechanism with solid state flash drives. TRIM is a process to undo what causes LAG. But some of the solid state chips in these devices have a bug and when TRIM is run, it bricks the chip, making it unusable.
thanks a ton for any help you can give me- I'm sure you receive a lot of questions!
-Sonny
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leapinlar said:
CWM (ClockworkMod) is a recovery program that allows you to do just what you said. TWRP is also a recovery, but uses the touch screen instead of hardware keys to control it.
You can either use the CWM backup tool to return your device to stock (including any data you have already created, like registration) or the plain stock zips I have will also return you to stock, but the way it was when you got it new before registering.
Since you have a Mac, the best way to do it is the new procedure without burning an image. Since I don't have a Mac, I don't know the exact programs to use. I think SDFormatter comes in a Mac version. And I know there are lots of mac partitioning programs to set the first partition active. And using the procedure does use all of the SD, so it is best to use a relatively small one, 2-4GB.
It saves it either to the SD card or internal memory, you choose.
Yes it uses all of the SD if you use the new procedure. But you need that if you choose to backup to SD. A backup takes about 1.5GB.
And yes, save the SD for future use, like restoring backups or installing new ROMs.
Dual booting means having one operating system on internal memory (also called emmc for Embedded MultiMedia Card) and one installed to a bootable SD. Most people that dual boot have stock on internal and CM on SD. They are separate and independent from each other.
Nandroid just means internal memory. So a nandroid backup means backing up whatever you have on internal memory.
The only advantage to booting to CM on SD is it leaves internal memory untouched for warranty reasons. The disadvantage is it runs slower and is less stable.
LAG is a complex issue to explain. If you are used to hard drives getting fragmented and slowing down your system, LAG is similar but a different mechanism with solid state flash drives. TRIM is a process to undo what causes LAG. But some of the solid state chips in these devices have a bug and when TRIM is run, it bricks the chip, making it unusable.
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THANK YOU.. so much answered for me
So I have the "32GB" turbo. but when i look at storage it shows that total storage is only 24GB!!?? Do others phones only show as having 24 instead of 32? Where is the other 8GB?
Also, i show twrp as taking up 12GB. I have 2 backups. can they really be 6GB each? I was hoping to be able to have a stock backup, computerfreek backup, and a MM rom. but thats not possible (not enough space). I must be doing something wrong.
That 24 GB that you see is likely the userdata partition. When it says 32 GB, that means 32 GB in total. Some goes to the OS, some goes to system apps, etc. There's some overhead. It's like if you get a computer with a 128 GB SSD, you're only going to get about 88 since Windows takes up about 40 GB. As for the TWRP backups, yes. That's definitely a typical size for a backup. If I were you, I would move your backups off the phone. You can always put them back on while booted in TWRP if you need them.
I recommend you get a OTG flash drive. I have a sandisk 64GB otg drive that I store my backups on. TWRP has an option to backup straight to the OTG drive as long as its connected when you boot up TWRP. The 24GB free is right, The system on stock takes up almost 2 gigs alone, plus the extra userdata, apps, etc. Every phone from every manufacturer has the same thing. you will never get a full 32gb on a 32gb phone. its unrealistic
that makes sense. here is my issue with doing that. i cant find my nandroid backups outside of twrp. if i connect the phone to my pc and open the files they are nowhere to be found. twrp folder is empty, backup folder is empty. the only time i can see them is when im in twrp and click on restore.
That's why I went with 64GB storage for my Quark. With previous 32GB LG Nexus 5, it was like I was in a leaky boat always bailing water to stay afloat. I was always near my limit.
Try navigating to /data/media/0/TWRP using a root browser, and cut and paste the backups to your downloads folder. You should be able to find them there when you plug your phone in.
i have a 32gb moto x (original) and never ran into this problem. thought id be the same with the turbo. thought wrong. live and learn...
found the backup using root explorer (thank you). but after moving them to download folder. when i plug into pc everything in folder shows accept the backup. I never had this issue on previous phones
Weird. Try using the root browser to change the permissions of the folder so that everything is as public as possible. Another option is to try and upload the backups to a cloud drive.