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i got the text yesterday and got the same old thing from the CSR. smartphone blah blah.
I was on the 30$ everything plan and now its 25$ for 2gb and $20 for unlimited texts.
Is there anything I can say to the rep tomorrow when I call back? I was on that previous plan ($30) for a long time, couple years I think.
Been at att for 13 years.
I have a tmo N1 also, I could switch but I don't know about their coverage down here.
I don't I'm beating a dead horse, I'm sorry. I did do some searching before hand.
any advice?
I can't help you but to say that I received the exact same awful news this week. I can't understand how they feel justified in doing this since I am not under contract and my plan was grandfathered in. I am going to call them tomorrow and let them know how I feel but I doubt it helps. I guess I'll just have to take my four phones elsewhere.
I literally had nothing to say to the guy after he came back from having me on hold. 30$ was the smart plan back two years ago wasn't it? So now it's not and we need $15 more dollars from you?
I'd rather pay google for good VOIP.
I can't find prices for tmo even more plus plans online anymore, I know they use to be there?
Legally, because they changed your plan, you can back out of their service without an early termination fee. That's probably the best thing you can do.
They do periodic scans... Once it happens automatically there's nothing you can do to get the cheap unlimited plan back. If you ask nicely you CAN get the unlimited data plan, but of course you'll pay $30 for it.
What can you do to mitigate it? I suppose you could use Wifi more, if you listen to streaming music a lot perhaps instead buy a bigger SD card and listen to music from there? Don't stream videos to it?
Personally I have only gone a hair over 1G since I've had my Nexus One, but I stream music only a few hours a month and otherwise it's market updates, email, data syncing etc.
I got switched back a few weeks ago myself too, but this time instead of exploding I figured there's nothing you can do about it, at least in the long term, except for talking from your wallet. When you contract is up, move somewhere else and tell AT&T why.
They keep giving us broader access to fast cellular data, keep making it faster, but continue to reduce what we can use of it. Same with home broadband, friend has 20mbit cable broadband at his house but it drops to like 1mbit/sec if he uses more than 5G/month.
I don't have a contract. I'm going to check a tmo sim in my house and see how the coverage is. Maybe switch after a final call to att. I have atmo n1 also.
silly thing is I've never went over 250mb a month. BUT what's the point of watching or keeping track of how much data you've used when you pay these Fu**s 1200 a year?
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I don't have a contract. I'm going to check a tmo sim in my house and see how the coverage is. Maybe switch after a final call to att. I have atmo n1 also.
silly thing is I've never went over 250mb a month. BUT what's the point of watching or keeping track of how much data you've used when you pay these Fu**s 1200 a year?
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exactly ! and, when the advertisement says UNLIMITED, by god that's what I'm paying for. if/when a telco throttles my account for using "too much" i'm suing.
so far this month, 4Gb. i'm on tmo, and while the out-of-town coverage isn't great, i'm never too far off the interstate for it to matter.
vote with your money. not like they care, with 20 million iphone users coughing up whatever amount they are told to. ;-)
well, there ain't jack the retention people can do. Been at att for 12 years now.
It's impossible to go back I guess. Also you can't just have voice voice or data alone. Thought about having two sims active at the same time, one from tmo and one from att.
According to him there is only 200mb or 2gb plans no matter what you had before they auto switch you.
What he did do was switch me to a 29.99 voice with rollover instead of the lowest advertised 39.99 450 rollover plan.
Drop to 1500 texts a month for $15 instead of unlimited for $20. (which I'm slowly swapping people over to my GV number)
and 2gb data for whatever that price is, I don't remember. But at least my bill is within $5 of what it was the other day.
Att just doesn't really care to much about what they're doing to customers.
I'm still going to go check out tmo and coverage at my house when I have time.
retention guy was cool. I recommend not hanging up or cussing these people.
Att is the devil.
wow, glad i'm on T-mobile i'm using a grandfathered G1 unlimited data/400 texts plan, but if i ever needed unlimited texts i could just upgrade to the even more plan and i would end up with 200 more anytime minutes and unlimited texts along with unlimited data, i currently pay 55 dollars a month total and the current even more plan (no contract plan) is 60 dollars a month.
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I literally had nothing to say to the guy after he came back from having me on hold. 30$ was the smart plan back two years ago wasn't it? So now it's not and we need $15 more dollars from you?
I'd rather pay google for good VOIP.
I can't find prices for tmo even more plus plans online anymore, I know they use to be there?
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The EM+ plans are still available, but you have to go to a store or call T-mo to sign up for that plan.
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exactly ! and, when the advertisement says UNLIMITED, by god that's what I'm paying for. if/when a telco throttles my account for using "too much" i'm suing.
so far this month, 4Gb. i'm on tmo, and while the out-of-town coverage isn't great, i'm never too far off the interstate for it to matter.
vote with your money. not like they care, with 20 million iphone users coughing up whatever amount they are told to. ;-)
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You realize the irony here is that the users who use hoards of data are part of the reason why they keep clamping down? How can you possibly use 4G of data doing semi-normal things? Must be tethering or doing nonsense (like one poster in the past; he was doing daily ROM downloads of multiple ROMs and associated packages...)
OK, so I realized that our long standing unlimited plans are going away. Fair enough, but I've finally done the math and we are all going to get boned in a BIG way (minimum of 25% increase in bill). This is almost enough to go back to the dark ages and forget my stupid cell phone service all together. But before I take the leap out into the vast void, I figured maybe someone else was pawing over this and done some research of their own?
So here's the question I pose:
What's the smartest route to go now? I've been thinking about coverage issues, and obviously Verizon has the biggest reach, but I'm thinking this last "less than tactful" boning was the last straw.
Is anyone else about to flush Verizon, or am I alone in this?
6GB + Cell = $120. 4GB + Cell = $100. I'm not sure whether to laugh, or cry?
I'm paying ~$70... Umm... Seems like Verizon is the new Ma Bell on the block?
Verizon has definitely screwed over the single phone customers.
with that, it's not any better... $59.99 for 450 minutes/unlimited text, plus $30 for 2GB of data
a huge savings of $10.
edit: forgot to mention, if you want more than 2GB, you have to go with the Shared Everything plan even though you're just one person. totally blows.
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Verizon has definitely screwed over the single phone customers.
with that, it's not any better... $59.99 for 450 minutes/unlimited text, plus $30 for 2GB of data
a huge savings of $10.
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Ah... Unlimited text. Hmm.. I forgot people are big into texting. OK, so I guess this won't be a system shock for everyone like it is for me. More like slowly turning up the heat on the frog in the pot.
I currently pay about $82 a month for 4GB 450 minutes and 250 texts with nights and weekends and mobile to mobile I don't even get close to the limits on anything. If I had to switch to the share 1GB would be $90 and the 4GB like I have now would be $110 and that doesn't even include taxes and fees. You can get the prepaid smart phone with 1GB for $80 but even that would be more that we are paying now. The only people who save money with these plans are going to be people with multiple devices that don't use a lot of data. It's a good deal if you use a lot of minutes or text a lot, but there are so many alternatives you can use that I cant see this being good for anyone really. I will stay as long as I can keep my current plan otherwise I will just switch to Sprint.
Was just looking at Sprint...
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I currently pay about $82 a month for 4GB 450 minutes and 250 texts with nights and weekends and mobile to mobile I don't even get close to the limits on anything. If I had to switch to the share 1GB would be $90 and the 4GB like I have now would be $110 and that doesn't even include taxes and fees. You can get the prepaid smart phone with 1GB for $80 but even that would be more that we are paying now. The only people who save money with these plans are going to be people with multiple devices that don't use a lot of data. It's a good deal if you use a lot of minutes or text a lot, but there are so many alternatives you can use that I cant see this being good for anyone really. I will stay as long as I can keep my current plan otherwise I will just switch to Sprint.
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Based on the reviews here in Colorado, and the price difference, as well as the good selection of phones, I'm 99% confident that if Verizon doesn't pull their heads out by summer/fall of next year, I'm jumping to Sprint as well.
This is why I haven't been looking to upgrade. Red might loose a long time customer.
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I currently pay about $82 a month for 4GB 450 minutes and 250 texts with nights and weekends and mobile to mobile I don't even get close to the limits on anything. If I had to switch to the share 1GB would be $90 and the 4GB like I have now would be $110 and that doesn't even include taxes and fees. You can get the prepaid smart phone with 1GB for $80 but even that would be more that we are paying now. The only people who save money with these plans are going to be people with multiple devices that don't use a lot of data. It's a good deal if you use a lot of minutes or text a lot, but there are so many alternatives you can use that I cant see this being good for anyone really. I will stay as long as I can keep my current plan otherwise I will just switch to Sprint.
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I currently pay around $150 with 1 smart phone and 4 basic. 1400 mins and 150 mb. The new Screw me plan for the exact same except 2 gb would cost me $220 and I lose most of an employee discount for where I work. I checked T-Mobile and they have a comparable plan to where I'm at and u would wind up paying right around where I am right one. Vzw will lose this customer from 1999.
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I had 2 phone line with 1400 mins shared and 4g on each phone. I used all 4 every month and my wife hardly used any. I also had unlimited texting. Now i have unlimited calls and texting and 4 g shared and im saving 30 a month. So i guess it helped me out. Seeing as we were only using 4g a month anyways.
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I'm currently grandfathered in with unlimited text and data and pretty much refuse to sign a new contract under these new guidelines so I will just keep this plan I have and won't bother buying my phones from them now if their gonna try to charge me full retail, I just picked up a new nexus for $300 on ebay FU Verizon!!!
same boat here... im grandfathered in under the old unlimited plan, but once this contract is up come next May, im jumping on my wife's family share plan with Sprint. Then ill have a better phone, unlimited everything again, and only pay 35.00 per/mo since its chipping in on the plan. WAY better then the 76.00 im paying now and that includes an 18% corperate discount..
Seriously Verizon? get real.
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I'm currently grandfathered in with unlimited text and data and pretty much refuse to sign a new contract under these new guidelines so I will just keep this plan I have and won't bother buying my phones from them now if their gonna try to charge me full retail, I just picked up a new nexus for $300 on ebay FU Verizon!!!
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word it's all about just not upping on a new contract. well worth the price of a phone
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word it's all about just not upping on a new contract. well worth the price of a phone
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I am thinking going the ebay route, but I am afraid I will get a stolen phone....
I'm grandfathered in on my unlimited too. I got my Revo before they made the upgrade change...lucky me...I have my DX to my partner and her D1 to our daughter. My daughter doesn't need a 4G phone...and because my partner only uses her phone to call people...and doesn't need a 4G either.
I pay way too much a month for only 2000 shared minutes...family and friends (10)...unlimited text and data = $245 on 3 lines.
We is decide to buy Amazon or eBay for upgrades if we decide to get better phones for them.
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I am thinking going the ebay route, but I am afraid I will get a stolen phone....
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even if you buy retail i think it's still worth it for the unlimited data.. that being said usually stolen phones won't come with the box & docs so that's a safe way to tell
I bought my past few phones off craigslist, cheaper than ebay, and I always have them meet me at a verizon store.
So you have Verizon activate the phone and then you pay the person you're buying it from after you know it's good to go?
YUP! Well that's what happened last time. Most of the time you can just meet at the Verizon store and have one of the clerks check the ESN# to make sure it hasn't been reported lost or stolen, so normally you dont need to have the seller wait round for activation.
Great tip!
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even if you buy retail i think it's still worth it for the unlimited data.. that being said usually stolen phones won't come with the box & docs so that's a safe way to tell
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I agree. I sold my REVO and got a Galaxy Nexus so I could keep my unlimited, and I'll never buy a phone from a Verizon store again. I'll keep upgrading via ebay or craigslist and just keep replacing my phone. That way I never have to renew my contract and I get to keep unlimited.
I'm on a family plan. Does this mean upgrading any phone would cause a change in the plan for all of us? I don't think I could hold off all the family members very long to keep the old plan.
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I need to vent-out folks. Is there such a thread already? Anyhow, I'm fed up with the T-Mobile customer service. They are naturally stealing my money! Here is the story.
I have switched to Verizon for better reception and canceled my family plan this summer. But T-Mobile continued to charge me for 6 (SIX) month after that. I have called them 4 (FOUR) times. They were doing cancellation with me on the phone EACH time, reassuring that everything is great now. But they have continued to charge my card after that month after month. After the 4th call they have refunded part of my money. But in the form of an AMEX credit card, which is not working in the places I'm shopping! And yes, they DID charge me for the canceled and refunded service a month later AGAIN! AVOID this robbers!
After being charged 2(TWO) times you must go to the credit card company 1(ONE) time and tell them your story and 4(FOUR) times so that they don't charge you the 3rd(THIRD) time.
Sure thing, lazy pays twice.
My worst carrier story.
Back in 2006 when I was still in the Marines I spent 2 weeks on the USS Essex, a small deck aircraft carrier. Well that thing is like a floating city and I got lost on it one day for like 20 minutes and it made me late to my shift on watch. It was definitely the worst carrier experience I ever had.
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My worst carrier story.
Back in 2006 when I was still in the Marines I spent 2 weeks on the USS Essex, a small deck aircraft carrier. Well that thing is like a floating city and I got lost on it one day for like 20 minutes and it made me late to my shift on watch. It was definitely the worst carrier experience I ever had.
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Haha i love you for this, but seriously though, on att we were once charged $550 for a month when we should have paid 120 for the three of us and my dad's data plan, we called them and they said there was nothing they could do at first, then we hung up and talked to someone who could fix it. We even got a discount for our troubles.
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It was not mine, but my moms, She is supposed to only be charged Php500 a month when she was on Smart, then she is usually charged Php600+ a month, we left that carrier ever since.
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I'm on Airtel since 2006. Never ever changed the sim/service or taken another one. After I've activated the DND Mode (Do Not Disturb) I'm feeling pretty good for not getting their tele-marketing calls. Still text message spams occur.
Im on VIVA since 2012 and im satisfied with their offers. Though the speed of 3G data is really slow!
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Over the past 2-3 months, people living in the Pacific northwest have been having serious issues with AT&T's LTE. Calls & texts never go through, sometimes it takes over 4 hours for voicemail or texts to show up. There have been massive complaints on AT&It's support forums & Facebook page.
If I haven't been with them for so long, and grandfathered into the unlimited data, I would split in a heartbeat.
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Ah T-Mobile... How I hate you. Though KPN isn't that much better...
Living on the border is a hassle no matter which carrier you have. You Americans are a lucky lot, you don't have to deal with that.
Most ridiculous thing is this: I have an unlimited data plan, with 35 euro a month deposit into my mobile wallet, that transfers into the next month. So by now I have about 840 euros of mobile cash to spend. (I still pay per minute, as opposed to having an amount of minutes per month.) But 080x, 090x and service numbers fall outside my package (meaning they are withdrawn directly from my bank account.). Calling, being called, texting and browsing in and from abroad also falls outside my package.
So I have no hope of ever getting rid of those 840 euros, simply because everyone uses What'sapp these days, and I don't have a data limit.
They won't give me a refund, they won't put the money towards a new phone, and if I ever tell them I bought another phone, they'll switch my package around to one with a limit, and I'll lose everything. Lovely, isn't it? I had to trick them into giving me a new microsim, because obviously all new phones can't use the old, big ones anymore.
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Ah T-Mobile... How I hate you. Though KPN isn't that much better...
Living on the border is a hassle no matter which carrier you have. You Americans are a lucky lot, you don't have to deal with that.
Most ridiculous thing is this: I have an unlimited data plan, with 35 euro a month deposit into my mobile wallet, that transfers into the next month. So by now I have about 840 euros of mobile cash to spend. (I still pay per minute, as opposed to having an amount of minutes per month.) But 080x, 090x and service numbers fall outside my package (meaning they are withdrawn directly from my bank account.). Calling, being called, texting and browsing in and from abroad also falls outside my package.
So I have no hope of ever getting rid of those 840 euros, simply because everyone uses What'sapp these days, and I don't have a data limit.
They won't give me a refund, they won't put the money towards a new phone, and if I ever tell them I bought another phone, they'll switch my package around to one with a limit, and I'll lose everything. Lovely, isn't it? I had to trick them into giving me a new microsim, because obviously all new phones can't use the old, big ones anymore.
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I actually love kpn. Best network in the netherlands, fast internet. Only i bit more expensive. I think you just took the wrong subscription.
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My worst carrier story was with T-mobile when I upgraded my line 4 months before my contract was up... I called up customer loyalty and told them I wanted the Note II... This was back in late october when the phone first came out and they told me they'd do an early upgrade for me and the price is $419 and a $50 rebate and i told them that was TOO damn high. The lady on the other end ended up giving me the phone for like $200 after the MIR and gave me a free month. When the statement came that month, I still got charged for the month, I was so angry about this I called them back and was wondering what happened to my free month. They ended up crediting my account and telling me not to pay the bill... Can you believe they wasted 15 minutes of my time in total going through all that trouble?
AT&T mobile = complaint to FCC
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I actually love kpn. Best network in the netherlands, fast internet. Only i bit more expensive. I think you just took the wrong subscription.
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No, it's just an old one. 3.5 years, by now. Relax 25. Advantage of it is that I pay 30 euro's a month for truly unlimited Internet. A similar subscription today costs 92 euro's a month....
KPN is ridiculously expensive, and a real terror when it comes to borders/abroad. Since I live on the German border, T-Mobile makes more sense. I don't have to hitchhike onto another carrier's signal.
Aah, like that. Mine is 2years old, 1gb limit. Thats enough for me and its fast. i dont go abroad very much so for me kpn is awesome.
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Hey guys, have this on preorder from Three, black version which is end of April for them (on one hand good as my O2 contract doesn't end until then, on the other bad cos SO SEXY!)
I just wanna clarify something, which I apologise if it's a stupid question - but I want this to be future proof. I know there is talk of some variants of the HTC One with no LTE; firstly, is this even true? And secondly, if true, is the Three network version an LTE variant?
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Hey guys, have this on preorder from Three, black version which is end of April for them (on one hand good as my O2 contract doesn't end until then, on the other bad cos SO SEXY!)
I just wanna clarify something, which I apologise if it's a stupid question - but I want this to be future proof. I know there is talk of some variants of the HTC One with no LTE; firstly, is this even true? And secondly, if true, is the Three network version an LTE variant?
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The phone supports LTE (4G) for the UK. In the US there is an alternative 4G technology like Sprint use, WiMAX. But Three won't have LTE till late this year. In the meantime you can use DC-HSDPA (dual channel HSDPA) which gets you close to those speeds anyway. Three have a good part of their networking supporting DC-HSDPA
Beauty is three will upgrade you to 4g for free and it will be unlimited data unlike the rest
I get 18mb at present with my note one which is 8gb faster than my broadband !
Three represent excellent value for money I've been with them since they started they have improved their call centre and I would never move to anyone else
Don't think about it do it
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Great! Exactly what I was expecting tbh, just wanted to check I wasn't being conned with a cheap variant
And yeah, their Ultrafast thing seems pretty cool until their 4G comes on, and one of my reasons for moving to them was that they said they won't charge more, and their all you can eat data!
EDIT - Query:
Weird query, for Three, their delivery estimate is end of April. So let's say 30th April. Now, I want to port my existing number from O2 - no problem, I know how to arrange all that.
So here is where I'm less sure. My current O2 contract ends on 27th April, i.e. just before I might get the new phone. So, will my PAC code remain valid after I go out of contract with O2? Will I have to keep with O2 and take out a pay and go or month to month just to hold onto the number?
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Great! Exactly what I was expecting tbh, just wanted to check I wasn't being conned with a cheap variant
And yeah, their Ultrafast thing seems pretty cool until their 4G comes on, and one of my reasons for moving to them was that they said they won't charge more, and their all you can eat data!
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Weird query, for Three, their delivery estimate is end of April. So let's say 30th April. Now, I want to port my existing number from O2 - no problem, I know how to arrange all that.
So here is where I'm less sure. My current O2 contract ends on 27th April, i.e. just before I might get the new phone. So, will my PAC code remain valid after I go out of contract with O2? Will I have to keep with O2 and take out a pay and go or month to month just to hold onto the number?
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presume your going for the black variant ? silver is available either now or in a week
have you checked coverage for 3 .. they cover 97% of the country just make sure your not in the 3 percent !
When they started years ago they were horrendous but they have got better and better .. you will have unlimited internet, no throttling and free 4g when it goes live .. I use around 9gb per month and it costs me £36 with all my other allowances ..
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presume your going for the black variant ? silver is available either now or in a week
have you checked coverage for 3 .. they cover 97% of the country just make sure your not in the 3 percent !
When they started years ago they were horrendous but they have got better and better .. you will have unlimited internet, no throttling and free 4g when it goes live .. I use around 9gb per month and it costs me £36 with all my other allowances ..
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They certainly have the most competitive prices and value for money, but be 100% SURE you are not the 3%(I am) as it is a pain the the rear to cancel your contract and you will have some charges(ie minutes for calls etc). I must say that their customer service has been really good every time we called them. I am very close to an aerial (less than a mile), but because(I assume) I am on the ground floor, at a funny angle, I struggle to get a signal. I had no issues on Symbian phones(Nokias) however since the wife and I changed over to Android in 2010 I have never had the same signal(not blaming Android) just seems an odd coincidence. I wish they were ok as I really like the idea of no premium for 4G. Considering going with them anyway for the 4G later in the year.
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They certainly have the most competitive prices and value for money, but be 100% SURE you are not the 3%(I am) as it is a pain the the rear to cancel your contract and you will have some charges(ie minutes for calls etc). I must say that their customer service has been really good every time we called them. I am very close to an aerial (less than a mile), but because(I assume) I am on the ground floor, at a funny angle, I struggle to get a signal. I had no issues on Symbian phones(Nokias) however since the wife and I changed over to Android in 2010 I have never had the same signal(not blaming Android) just seems an odd coincidence. I wish they were ok as I really like the idea of no premium for 4G. Considering going with them anyway for the 4G later in the year.
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The problem with Three is the lack of 2G fallback. 2G gets into those hard to reach places better than 3G. Three's coverage value of 97% is outdoor coverage. The reality on indoor is considerably worse. In terms of data deals, nothing comes close to Three's plans, but it will always suffer as the worst coverage network which is a real shame. For home use, Three do have their home signal box which gives you a perfect signal around your home but uses your broadband connection to do so. I use one.
Here is the text of the email I just sent to Dan Hesse. The savings you supposedly get from the Framily plan are a joke.
I recently jumped on the Framily plan bandwagon for my 6 lines of service to take advantage of the savings that are advertised all over Sprint.com. I actually started to convince my friends and relatives that they should move to Sprint for this fantastic deal.
Then when I inquired about adding a new line to the Framily plan and found out that there are no discounts on equipment I slammed on the brakes and reversed my feelings. Then I additionally found out that my existing lines would no longer be eligible for discounted equipment. Now I am feeling really deceived.
So the end result of the Framily plan hoax is that the monthly savings you supposedly get are the direct result of losing the discount on new line/renewal equipment. I am so angry about this that I will most certainly move back to the plan I was on previously and since 5 of my 6 lines all expire in the next 6 months I will probably take them elsewhere.
To be the number three carrier and do this to your devoted customers and expect them to help you get new customers shocks and amazes me.
I brought my family's lines to Sprint because they were the best deal for me. I can say that you are now following along the path of money sucking that your competitors have been on for years.
I hope that you get many more of these letters as I will be spreading the word to have everyone I can to contact you about this horrible plan.
I to hate losing discounts on equipment, but Sprint has to make money somewhere. Lower monthly rates (yes, 25 a month for unlimited talk/text 1GB of data is LOW) usually means a higher cost somewhere.
I have an unlimited everything plan for 45 a month on the Framily plan, phone costs 25 a month, but heck, I'll take it! Better than anything Big Red or TMob can do.
I will direct your attention to the fine print if you want to be even more upset, particularly the section about data and video streaming.
I'm on mobile, but if memory serves, it basically says that framily plans get bumped down in case of localized high data demand + video streaming is limited to the point of being useless to ease network congestion.
Hesse: data will remain unlimited. Yeah, OK guy.
No discounts are applied until you hit 7 users on the plan then you get the $25.00 a month, you can forget about device discounts too. If you want unlimited data add another $20.00 a month which brings the plan higher then what I am paying now for 5 phones. I will keep my family plan I have now, well actual 2 family plans, better deal and new phone every 2 years with discounts and savings...
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No discounts are applied until you hit 7 users on the plan then you get the $25.00 a month, you can forget about device discounts too. If you want unlimited data add another $20.00 a month which brings the plan higher then what I am paying now for 5 phones. I will keep my family plan I have now, well actual 2 family plans, better deal and new phone every 2 years with discounts and savings...
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Just checked my bill, I have 3 lines, and all of them are getting $10 off, making them $45 each. You get more off for each line until they're down to $25 each, IIRC.
First of all, for clarification purposes I think it's appropriate to call them "device subsidies" rather than "discounts".
Next, I am not sure what the OP's "big surprise" here is. The Framily plan is a no-contract engagement. As such there are no device subsides provided under it. This isn't any different than any of the other large carriers' no-contract offerings.
clshores said:
Here is the text of the email I just sent to Dan Hesse. The savings you supposedly get from the Framily plan are a joke.
I recently jumped on the Framily plan bandwagon for my 6 lines of service to take advantage of the savings that are advertised all over Sprint.com. I actually started to convince my friends and relatives that they should move to Sprint for this fantastic deal.
Then when I inquired about adding a new line to the Framily plan and found out that there are no discounts on equipment I slammed on the brakes and reversed my feelings. Then I additionally found out that my existing lines would no longer be eligible for discounted equipment. Now I am feeling really deceived.
So the end result of the Framily plan hoax is that the monthly savings you supposedly get are the direct result of losing the discount on new line/renewal equipment. I am so angry about this that I will most certainly move back to the plan I was on previously and since 5 of my 6 lines all expire in the next 6 months I will probably take them elsewhere.
To be the number three carrier and do this to your devoted customers and expect them to help you get new customers shocks and amazes me.
I brought my family's lines to Sprint because they were the best deal for me. I can say that you are now following along the path of money sucking that your competitors have been on for years.
I hope that you get many more of these letters as I will be spreading the word to have everyone I can to contact you about this horrible plan.
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I got to tell you, you are whining about nothing. I don't have this plan, but why would you expect device subsidies on a price that low. It obviously isn't a plan for some one that wants a new phone every two years and do the math. You could pay Sprint $30 more a month for your supposed phone upgrade discount which amounts to $720 over 2 years plus the $199 you paid for your discounted phone totaling $919 for you discounted phone. Or pay cash for your phone $600 and save $319 over the same 2 year period. Now, where was your discount? Oh wait there is more, no contract, cheap monthly bill, leave when you want. What are you complaining about.
cruise350 said:
I got to tell you, you are whining about nothing. I don't have this plan, but why would you expect device subsidies on a price that low. It obviously isn't a plan for some one that wants a new phone every two years and do the math. You could pay Sprint $30 more a month for your supposed phone upgrade discount which amounts to $720 over 2 years plus the $199 you paid for your discounted phone totaling $919 for you discounted phone. Or pay cash for your phone $600 and save $319 over the same 2 year period. Now, where was your discount? Oh wait there is more, no contract, cheap monthly bill, leave when you want. What are you complaining about.
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No argument on most of the points. My biggest complaint is that they don't come out and tell you up front that this is the way it works. It all just seems a little deceiving to me. I will get my first Framily bill soon and I will see what my actual monthly change is and then I will pass judgement on what/if the savings based on a traditional plan will be.
Glad to read these issues. I've got 5 family phones still on my Sprint Everything Data Family 1500 and it sounds like I will just stay. I tell everyone that Sprint in OKC is a great wifi use and limited data with partial phone calling. Basically it sucks but with 5 phones my bill is still less than most of the 2-3 smartphone plans of other carriers.
It at least helps when I can't download or even make a call from my house.
@jtsv. I have the same plan so I think I will stay on it as well. I pay $190 for 4 lines unlimited everything.
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cruise350 said:
I got to tell you, you are whining about nothing. I don't have this plan, but why would you expect device subsidies on a price that low. It obviously isn't a plan for some one that wants a new phone every two years and do the math. You could pay Sprint $30 more a month for your supposed phone upgrade discount which amounts to $720 over 2 years plus the $199 you paid for your discounted phone totaling $919 for you discounted phone. Or pay cash for your phone $600 and save $319 over the same 2 year period. Now, where was your discount? Oh wait there is more, no contract, cheap monthly bill, leave when you want. What are you complaining about.
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Yeah cruise is right on this one. I was thinking of doing the Framily Plan also but I get a 25% discount on my monthly bill from work. I called up Sprint and inquired extensively about this plan and even asked about my discount and was told that it would apply to the unlimited data which would bring it down from $20 to $15. I was also told that if I move a line into the plan and it wasn't eligible for upgrade that it would cost me an extra $15 a month for 12 months or until the upgrade was available. There are a lot of hidden things in that plan but that's why it's always best to call and get info on it before you make a decision. They aren't going to come out and tell you anything unless you ask. They are hoping more people just switch to the plan without asking about the intricacies of it.
jtsv said:
Glad to read these issues. I've got 5 family phones still on my Sprint Everything Data Family 1500 and it sounds like I will just stay. I tell everyone that Sprint in OKC is a great wifi use and limited data with partial phone calling. Basically it sucks but with 5 phones my bill is still less than most of the 2-3 smartphone plans of other carriers.
It at least helps when i can't download or even make a call from my house.
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When I hit 6 lines I could no longer use the Family 1500 plan. I had to go to the My Everything plan. Like I said I will have to analyse the bill and see if I should switch back.
travisw0204 said:
Yeah cruise is right on this one. I was thinking of doing the Framily Plan also but I get a 25% discount on my monthly bill from work. I called up Sprint and inquired extensively about this plan and even asked about my discount and was told that it would apply to the unlimited data which would bring it down from $20 to $15. I was also told that if I move a line into the plan and it wasn't eligible for upgrade that it would cost me an extra $15 a month for 12 months or until the upgrade was available. There are a lot of hidden things in that plan but that's why it's always best to call and get info on it before you make a decision. They aren't going to come out and tell you anything unless you ask. They are hoping more people just switch to the plan without asking about the intricacies of it.
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They are currently waiving the $15 fee.
Woah, thanks for the info. I was thinking about switching to the framily plan but hadn't looked into it yet. Now I know it's not for me. It may be a good choice for people who don't mind keeping phones for a long time though.
With sprint, read the fine print
So it's a trade off between equipment fees and the monthly bill?
Smashbro29 said:
So it's a trade off between equipment fees and the monthly bill?
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Essentially. But with the added feature of not being under contract which means you can jump ship at any time unless you still have time left on your existing contract then you will be contract free from that point forward.
I've been curious I kind of understand how their new plan is working but I have a question has anyone seen any fine print on the new plans say in 12months u upgrade but your existing phone shows signs of being rooted or knox is tripped? Just wondering if theres anything in there about it.
MrWicked1 said:
I've been curious I kind of understand how their new plan is working but I have a question has anyone seen any fine print on the new plans say in 12months u upgrade but your existing phone shows signs of being rooted or knox is tripped? Just wondering if theres anything in there about it.
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There is no fine print in regards to that. The early upgrade portion is saying that 12 months in, with unlimited data, they will let you upgrade at no charge.
You don't turn your phone back in or anything like that.
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lawmangrant said:
There is no fine print in regards to that. The early upgrade portion is saying that 12 months in, with unlimited data, they will let you upgrade at no charge.
You don't turn your phone back in or anything like that.
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Ah ok thanks that's what i was wondering I was assuming you have to turn your phone in.