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Accelerometer on Xperia X1

Is there ANY possibility that the Xperia X1 has a hidden accelerometer in it? As it was HTC who manufactured it and as HTC loves to hide some cool features of some devices, do you think X1 has an accelerometer hiden in it?
And IF it has... how can we discover it? Any ways or only if HTC or Sony tell us?
Thanks in advance!

hasn't someone disassembled the X1?
Im pretty sure they didn't find an accelerometer

I've seen a video of Xperia getting dismantled, Havn't seen anything that looks like a Accelerometer.
Does someone have a screenshot how the hardware supose to look like?

See this: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1028928&native_or_pdf=pdf
Pix from dismantheling... Thanks to: XavierGr

i've tried all the usual accelerometer drivers and tweaks and they don't work so I presume there's not one.
Is there a hardware dump utility like lspci that we can run to see what's there?

View Poll Results: Xperia X1 has a hidden accelerometer?
Yes, it has 1 4.00%
Maybe it has 7 28.00%
No, it hasn´t 17 68.00%
Who said yes?

LOL I was hopping for hidden tmobile usa 3g band.

romeo0119 said:
LOL I was hopping for hidden tmobile usa 3g band.
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And i was hoping for a hidden iPhone

Insaneboy said:
And i was hoping for a hidden iPhone
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Don't swear
I was hoping for a Bugatti Veyron....

I dont know if it has a g sensor or not but if it does it is well hidden. I thought the X1 only had A-GPS too until i found a program that unlocks the real FULL GPS so it might still be possible.

Maybe you will have to go for the X2 if you really need the accelerometer

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Huh? There's still speculation about the X1 having an accelerometer?? Thought that's like history already.

thats easy.
just let it drop from like 2 meters height. if it accellerates then it should have an basic accelerometer. if it drops at constant speed then it doesnt.
if it doesnt drop at all then it should have an hooverometer.
i would test it for you but i am currently at a spacestation right now and the test would show up "hooverometer" all the time.
if it drops to the ground you should hear a noise. if it is a loud and clear "CLANK!" then it has definitely an accelerometer. if it is a relatively soft "clank!" then it doesnt have one. its probably very hard to distinguish between "CLANK!" and "clank!". i suggest you record the noise and upload it here to have another poll!
even if there is nothing mentioned in the white-paper and not a single driver available and no sign of an application whatsoever ... this conspiracy should be solved once and for all. also there is still the "tv-out issue" to solve. yesterday my x1 was floating near my tv and the tv-screen did still show a picture!!!
good luck,
- quadword

QuadWord said:
thats easy.
just let it drop from like 2 meters height. if it accellerates then it should have an basic accelerometer. if it drops at constant speed then it doesnt.
if it doesnt drop at all then it should have an hooverometer.
i would test it for you but i am currently at a spacestation right now and the test would show up "hooverometer" all the time.
if it drops to the ground you should hear a noise. if it is a loud and clear "CLANK!" then it has definitely an accelerometer. if it is a relatively soft "clank!" then it doesnt have one. its probably very hard to distinguish between "CLANK!" and "clank!". i suggest you record the noise and upload it here to have another poll!
even if there is nothing mentioned in the white-paper and not a single driver available and no sign of an application whatsoever ... this conspiracy should be solved once and for all. also there is still the "tv-out issue" to solve. yesterday my x1 was floating near my tv and the tv-screen did still show a picture!!!
good luck,
- quadword
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hahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahhaahahahhahahahah!
Nicely done! Thank you for saving me from getting banned, because I was this close to insult someone...

vrracing said:
I dont know if it has a g sensor or not but if it does it is well hidden. I thought the X1 only had A-GPS too until i found a program that unlocks the real FULL GPS so it might still be possible.
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its has GPS... its listed as having GPS... all GPS programs work without drivers or any tweaks needed >.<

Would be pretty funny if they had hidden a g-sensor in it just for fun...
If there was a hidden iphone in my x1 I would start crying.

It has an accelerometer. It's found right next to the extra RAM and the TV-Out port, all three are clearly labelled if you care to open your X1 and find out. The best part? They're all activated simply by pushing a little pixie shaped button near the bottom of the handset's interior.

Jablko said:
Would be pretty funny if they had hidden a g-sensor in it just for fun...
If there was a hidden iphone in my x1 I would start crying.
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A dev could have a bit of fun with that. Add an accelerometer, hide it and don't tell anyone. Then patch the device 6 months down the line with an update that makes the screen switch off whenever the phone is moving and switch on whenever it's stationary.
Worth the lolz? The guys in charge of the repairs/complaints departments would likely say no.

[Q] How enable support for GLONASS?

Our phone has snapdragon ms8255 which is qualcomm S2 which supported GLONASS too. How we may enable it or it enabled by default?

hmmmm ... wats glonass
Thought by an mi 410 user frm punjab

manukohli said:
hmmmm ... wats glonass
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"GLONASS" analogue "GPS" ,but a more accurate...

its coming in near future..
qualcomm just signed the agreement...
also for it networks operators must support it...
it will be available soon by updates or patch fixes by devs anyhow if qualcomm don't rolls out it for existing devices.. so need to worry

GPS is from US
GLONASS is from russia
GLONASS and GPS augments each other giving you more available satellites to help you obtain your location, that the reason you have a shorter lock-in period compared to a single system only.
if you have glonass + gps capable device you have now a faster and more accurate positioning.

redjge said:
GPS is from US
GLONASS is from russia
GLONASS and GPS augments each other giving you more available satellites to help you obtain your location, that the reason you have a shorter lock-in period compared to a single system only.
if you have glonass + gps capable device you have now a faster and more accurate positioning.
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+1.
For only GPS the accuracy will be more than 10 meters (except for US military). Galileo can take 2 to 1 meter accuracy. Gps + Glonass can take 2 meters accuracy.
Here is my 2 meters accuracy by this phone.
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@CK, how did you do that
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CacingKalung said:
+1.
For only GPS the accuracy will be more than 10 meters (except for US military). Galileo can take 2 to 1 meter accuracy. Gps + Glonass can take 2 meters accuracy.
Here is my 2 meters accuracy by this phone.
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Hey good work.
I can get 6 m at best as accuracy. Do you get a lock indoors not near any window? I have read somewhere that if you hit sat no 65 to 88, then you have glonass enabled and from what i see gps test is not getting any glonass sats.

nayneshdev said:
Hey good work.
I can get 6 m at best as accuracy. Do you get a lock indoors not near any window? I have read somewhere that if you hit sat no 65 to 88, then you have glonass enabled and from what i see gps test is not getting any glonass sats.
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It couldbe because of glonass Or Agps, i'm not sure. My phone always online. Using agps should increase accuracy also.
I always can get 2 meters accuracy only if the sky is clear enough. For indoor it depend on the material above us, it can lock or not.
One more thing... you should make sure for the agps server in your gps.conf to be setted to the server in your region, so it can minimize time deviation between gps module time and satellite clock time. You know the satellite send "ping", satpos and time, the module will calculate the "ping" travel time to distance, from several sats then whala... get the location.
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i searched over internet that glonass sats. are numbered from #65 to #88, if we get any of em' on lock (GLONASS on fire), test by usin gps test app from play store
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/wp/2012/01/19/glonass-support-in-our-latest-xperia-phones/
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the region of coverage of GLONASS is at upper northen hemisphere & lower southern but not good near equator due to inclination of sats.

nitindeck said:
i searched over internet that glonass sats. are numbered from #65 to #88, if we get any of em' on lock (GLONASS on fire), test by usin gps test app from play store
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/wp/2012/01/19/glonass-support-in-our-latest-xperia-phones/
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the region of coverage of GLONASS is at upper northen hemisphere & lower southern but not good near equator due to inclination of sats.
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Thanks for your usefull information.
From the picture, it get glonass sats but it hasn't locked yet, no valid location and accuracy.
So for us who live in Indonesia definitely will hard to get glonass signal... to bad. So who live in India, Australia and US should be easier to get it. Some one can confirm?
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CacingKalung said:
Thanks for your usefull information.
From the picture, it get glonass sats but it hasn't locked yet, no valid location and accuracy.
So for us who live in Indonesia definitely will hard to get glonass signal... to bad. So who live in India, Australia and US should be easier to get it. Some one can confirm?
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yes it might not work in southern east asian region, but still to be used by other, it needs to be patched (soft. layer)
.65 xperia phones update includes it, still m tryin to find out the code
we report back if i suspect something

Our phone has the same chipset as yours, and should theoreticaly support GLONASS.
But i live in southestern Brazil (about 47° south) and i can't find any glonass sattelites (65~88)
Is anyone still interrested on this "hack" to enable by default the use of both kinds of sattelites?

My Galaxy Nexus has better GPS accuracy than my Nexus 4

I have my Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4 phones beside each other on my window at home. Why is it my Galaxy Nexus has superior GPS accuracy than my Nexus 4?
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Because the Samsung made Galaxy Nexus has better access to all the stars in the galaxy allowing it to pinpoint it's location with a higher degree of certainty in regard to it's position relative to the location of other stars in the galaxy.

Are you using different versions of GPS Test on the two devices?

ed10000 said:
Are you using different versions of GPS Test on the two devices?
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Even if he was, that wouldn't affect the sat locks

I am using the Pro version on my Nexus 4, and the standard free version on the Galaxy Nexus.

I get 32/32 satellites in orbit with full signal strength while inside my walk-in steal safe with my N4.
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Make sure Wi-Fi and Google's location service is enabled in both devices.

overhauling said:
Make sure Wi-Fi and Google's location service is enabled in both devices.
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Both of these are enabled on both devices.
Here is another result I did making sure both wifi and googles location service was enabled on both devices.

does GPS work? stop worrying about numbers lol
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It most Likely has not synced with all the satellites yet on that zone.
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Hate to burst your bubble, but my $100 Galaxy S Vibrant have better signal than both of your Nexus devices. But seriously, I wouldn't mind seeing results by other Nexus 4 owners. I am more concerned about lock time and the ability to keep a signal while on the the highway.

I didn't use any test apps or anything like that, but in a normal tracking situation - going about 5km by bike - the nexus 4 did a much better job than the galaxy s2 I tried before.
Not only am I getting a gps fix in a matter of seconds, even inside buildings, but the recorded track is also a lot closer to the actual route I took.
Don't forget you also got glonass now, not sure if your tools are taking those into account

eksasol said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but my $100 Galaxy S Vibrant have better signal than both of your Nexus devices. But seriously, so I wouldn't mind seeing results by other Nexus 4 owners. I am more concerned about lock time and the ability to keep a signal while on the the highway.
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Galaxy S had one of the worst GPS ever...

The agps of your galaxy nexus is updated and maybe not the one on your nexus 4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
I noticed that in gps.conf they removed ntp servers try adding them
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NTP_SERVER=COUNTRY.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=0.COUNTRY.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=1.COUNTRY.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=2.COUNTRY.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=3.COUNTRY.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=0.REGION.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=1.REGION.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=2.REGION.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=3.REGION.pool.ntp.org
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exadeci said:
The agps of your galaxy nexus is updated and maybe not the one on your nexus 4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
I noticed that in gps.conf they removed ntp servers try adding them
Code:
NTP_SERVER=COUNTRY.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=0.COUNTRY.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=1.COUNTRY.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=2.COUNTRY.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=3.COUNTRY.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=0.REGION.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=1.REGION.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=2.REGION.pool.ntp.org
NTP_SERVER=3.REGION.pool.ntp.org
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Do I not need root enabled on my device to do that? Also I live In Ireland.

Dannyboyni said:
Do I not need root enabled on my device to do that? Also I live In Ireland.
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Yeah you need root, try updating agps in gps test settings if you don't want root

All I care about is getting a lock in a few mins and being able to keep a lock on the satellites while driving.
Have you used it while driving?

Ok I have updated the AGPS within GPS Test. Here are my results now. I am still very disappointed.
I have not tested this while driving just yet. Though I will be using this while on foot mostly, for sports tracking purposes.

So you never tested your gps on real usage and you are very disappointed. First world problems.

juliano_q said:
So you never tested your gps on real usage and you are very disappointed. First world problems.
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Tomorrow I will be putting it through extensive google tracks testing. With the nexus 4 in one hand and the galaxy nexus in the other. I will upload the tracks tomorrow to show everyone.

Post your GPS Navigation test results here!

So apparently many people using the Nexus 5 are experiencing inaccurate GPS positions when on Device Only mode (using ONLY GPS, no WiFi or 3G). In order to investigate this issue further, and to find out whether or not this is a hardware issue, I would like you guys to report your findings in regards to GPS accuracy when using GPS only. Please note that I am not talking about how long it takes to get a fix but only the accuracy of that fix.
P.S. This is the thread on google's forums discussing this issue: http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/nexus/EkllXr0ZlZM

Mine had me within 10 feet then it went up to 30. I'm also sitting inside on my couch.
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darkgoon3r96 said:
So apparently many people using the Nexus 5 are experiencing inaccurate GPS positions when on power saving mode (using ONLY GPS, no WiFi or 3G).
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Power saving is network locating only.

Rusty! said:
Power saving is network locating only.
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Sorry about that, fixed it.

With GPS only I get a lock in under 10 seconds outside with >20 satellites visible. Accuracy 5m. So no problem here.
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I haven't noticed a problem here. I will test more today. I did notice last week that it locks on to half the satellites that my S4 locks on to. It also reports slightly lower signal for each. However, the accuracy is the same or better than my S4 at 0-15 ft while the S4 is 10-30.
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mrro82 said:
Mine had me within 10 feet then it went up to 30. I'm also sitting inside on my couch.
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Being indoors does tend to negatively affect accuracy...
Having said that, my nexus 5 manages to pinpoint me to the exact room I'm in.

outdoors isn't great but it will lock in a few seconds. but i am unable to obtain a lock indoors at all. pretty lame
overall it definitely could be improved
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P.S. This is the thread on google's forums discussing this issue: http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/nexus/EkllXr0ZlZM
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hmm, this comment from that thread:
I have the same issue.
When i put it airplane mode or only have edge network, gps works (better).
Issue seems related to network connection.
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is true for me too. if i turn on airplane mode, i got a lock of 2-3 sats indoors. can't get any more than 1 with network connection enabled. accuracy was crap in both tho
edit: actually i can't consistently reproduce either right now. hopefully can be improved

GPS gets stucked after ~30 minutes of use with Navigon Navigation Software.
Happend more then two times this weekend...
Its the same with GPS or GPS /wifi/network enabled...
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Hmm so it seems that some people may not have the issue... maybe they all have defected units?

Hi! My Nexus sees and locks a lot of satellites, more than other phones that I had, and very fast, but... I've recorded a track in bike and the track isn't too accurate. Is not a big problem, I can live with it, but I'll hope a better result when I had 15 satellites locked and 3m of precision...

Try it with location set to device only next time.

This is the first phone that was able to get GPS lock inside the building at work (from cold boot no less!). Nexus 4 could not along with the Galaxy Note I (both had GPS and GNSS support).
I've seen the error go down to a few metres sometimes.

Mine is good with GPS only on, fast and accurate locks. Haven't tried navigating more than half an hour on it through.
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Driving today and pretty much all day, it was saying GPS signal lost. It kept showing me on some different street and complete weird randomness. Showed that I was about 2 miles away yet I was only a few hundred feet away from my destination. Completely weird.
I RMA'ed it today. Totally weird.

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Driving today and pretty much all day, it was saying GPS signal lost. It kept showing me on some different street and complete weird randomness. Showed that I was about 2 miles away yet I was only a few hundred feet away from my destination. Completely weird.
I RMA'ed it today. Totally weird.
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Same here. Going to try Google on Monday to see if there is anything they can do or if I have to send it back.

[Q] Signal trouble but don't understand what

So, I installed SlimROM for S3mini and i think it's awesome.
However, I've had some trouble with my internet when i'm not on wifi. The logo says I have 3g but its very unstable. Just now I tested it and the play store worked fine and then suddenly didn't anymore. But if i press Retry for about 10 times, it sudden;y works fine again.
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One thing i've noticed as well is how tasker is unable to find my locations based on net sometimes.
Anyone know what's going on? and what i can do about it.

Does this occur in one area or anywhere you go?

serophia said:
Does this occur in one area or anywhere you go?
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Many different places.
I think i've found some interesting stuff. It seems that when i'm on HSPA Internet works but not when i'm on 3G... Anyone know what this could mean?

S.Phrenic said:
Many different places.
I think i've found some interesting stuff. It seems that when i'm on HSPA Internet works but not when i'm on 3G... Anyone know what this could mean?
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Probably the location you are at does not have the refarmed 1900 towers, where i live if i drop to 3g it would instantly not work and would have to wait till im back on HSPA or H to get decent signal.

serophia said:
Probably the location you are at does not have the refarmed 1900 towers, where i live if i drop to 3g it would instantly not work and would have to wait till im back on HSPA or H to get decent signal.
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Could be although that wouldn't make sense as the phone had no troubles with internet before I install SlimROM.

S.Phrenic said:
Could be although that wouldn't make sense as the phone had no troubles with internet before I install SlimROM.
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You can try a different rom then cause some roms have bad data as its not fully stable on their sources. So for now flash a different rom and see if it improves.

So I would like to Bump this thread. As after trying many different maclaw ROM's, waited for months to see if anything would develop that would help me, It's still not fixed.
So the situation is this: My phone's data works fine in the whole of europe (I just travelled and never let me down). Because so much time has passed I've installed SlimKat ROM, and again my data seems to be unstable.
I'm thinking it's a Modem problem and I wonder if there is anything I can do about this.
Also, once I read that someone had a similar problem, no fix for it though.

Also, If other people are aving similar troubles, please post to get a feel for how often this problem occurs

You can try switching your phone in 2G only mode and see if net is working that way. It will be a little slower than 3G, but try and report Maybe the 3G signal in your area is weak.

koragg97 said:
You can try switching your phone in 2G only mode and see if net is working that way. It will be a little slower than 3G, but try and report Maybe the 3G signal in your area is weak.
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Thanks, I'll try this. However, I don't think my 3G sidnal is weak in my area as I've never had the problem with StockRom. Also, I'm having the trouble wherever i am throughout my whole city and in other cities. To me, that doesn't seem to be a signal problem.

S.Phrenic said:
Thanks, I'll try this. However, I don't think my 3G sidnal is weak in my area as I've never had the problem with StockRom. Also, I'm having the trouble wherever i am throughout my whole city and in other cities. To me, that doesn't seem to be a signal problem.
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To me neither. Like a dev once said "There's nothing better than stock"
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