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http://www.techradar.com/news/porta...upgrade-original-galaxy-gear-to-tizen-1227889
Hold on to your hats!!! I mean Galaxy Gears.... Or even buy up the old ones cheap as they have a larger battery and will obviously be cheaper than the Gear 2 & Neo.
Some of you suggested this which was nice and sensible as it was only a software update, but some clearly thought that GG owners would be left abandoned after just 6 months or less.... There is no icon to roll my eyes as much as I need to here.
Anyway - rejoice as the Jesus watch rises.
Sooo who's first to do the downgrade?
I haven't seen Tizen in person yet, but I'm 100% sure it will not replace Null ROM with my needs.
When one news source publishes something completely unsubstantiated that doesn't make it true. Here's the quote...
There was a worry that there would be no love for the older model, but a Samsung spokesperson confirmed to TechRadar that the Android would be stripped out and replaced with the new OS.
http://www.techradar.com/news/porta...upgrade-original-galaxy-gear-to-tizen-1227889Maybe it's true, maybe TechRadar is phishing for click-throughs. Kind of like re/code saying Samsung was ditching TW to please Google who sold Motorola to please Samsung. No outward sign of either unsubstantiated rumor being true (so far).
BarryH_GEG said:
When one news source publishes something completely unsubstantiated that doesn't make it true. Here's the quote...
There was a worry that there would be no love for the older model, but a Samsung spokesperson confirmed to TechRadar that the Android would be stripped out and replaced with the new OS.
http://www.techradar.com/news/porta...upgrade-original-galaxy-gear-to-tizen-1227889Maybe it's true, maybe TechRadar is phishing for click-throughs. Kind of like re/code saying Samsung was ditching TW to please Google who sold Motorola to please Samsung. No outward sign of either unsubstantiated rumor being true (so far).
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Droid Life is reporting the same thing: http://www.droid-life.com/2014/02/25/galaxy-gear-update-to-tizen/
JimSmith94 said:
Droid Life is reporting the same thing
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They're quoting TechRadar...
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They're quoting TechRadar...
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Assuming that it will be sidegraded/downgraded to Tizen, then the real issue is the other quote from a Samsung representative, the part that mentions that only the gear 2 and gear 2 neo will have their sdk released and even with Tizen on our original Galaxy Gears, we won't getting any decent apps.
Nianfur said:
Assuming that it will be sidegraded/downgraded to Tizen, then the real issue is the other quote from a Samsung representative, the part that mentions that only the gear 2 and gear 2 neo will have their sdk released and even with Tizen on our original Galaxy Gears, we won't getting any decent apps.
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And by extension if you have software development kit you can develop apps that run on Tizen.
The Galaxy Gear will have a some point ..... knowing how fast Samsung is maybe in months run Tizen.
A Tizen app is a Tizen app if it runs on the Gear 2 it will run on the Galaxy Gear (unless the app uses the heart rate monitor)
Other than the heart rate monitor the Galaxy Gear has the same hardware as the Gear 2, it will running Tizen and have exactly the same apps.
Now me I personally do not believe any watch running Tizen will ever have more Apps that a watch running Android but other that no heart rate monitor, maybe a ever so minor improvement on the clock there it no reason buy a Gear 2.
Me at this point I really do not care, I am 95% certain if anything I will get a Gear Fit, and the Gear Fit will not run Tizen or have many if any future apps.
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And by extension if you have software development kit you can develop apps that run on Tizen.
The Galaxy Gear will have a some point ..... knowing how fast Samsung is maybe in months run Tizen.
A Tizen app is a Tizen app if it runs on the Gear 2 it will run on the Galaxy Gear (unless the app uses the heart rate monitor)
Other than the heart rate monitor the Galaxy Gear has the same hardware as the Gear 2, it will running Tizen and have exactly the same apps.
Now me I personally do not believe any watch running Tizen will ever have more Apps that a watch running Android but other that no heart rate monitor, maybe a ever so minor improvement on the clock there it no reason buy a Gear 2.
Me at this point I really do not care, I am 95% certain if anything I will get a Gear Fit, and the Gear Fit will not run Tizen or have many if any future apps.
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Unless it has some unique api that needs the sdk. Then were screwed.
So good news with respect to Tizen and its feared incompatibility...
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_...apps-to-tizen-os-too-bad-theres-no-phone-yet/
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So good news with respect to Tizen and its feared incompatibility...
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_...apps-to-tizen-os-too-bad-theres-no-phone-yet/
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Hopefully someone will come up with a free option in converting apps to Tizen. $5000 PER APP is absurd. What about ask the developers who create free apps for android? What about customers who have paid for apps but the developers don't choose to pay 5grand to convert the app to a Tizen compatible version? If developing apps using HTML5 is as easy as Fomey says it is then we may have a shot at getting decent apps for the gear2, but if not...... My choice to hold out for the gear2 instead of getting the galaxy gear will probably bite me in the arse. I wonder if the galaxy gear will be able to downgrade after the Tizen update. If not I better go grab one now...
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I wonder if the galaxy gear will be able to downgrade after the Tizen update.
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i'll eat my hat if that will be possible. but it won't. tizen is supposed to be better - according to samsung - so why give an option to downgrade?
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Hopefully someone will come up with a free option in converting apps to Tizen. $5000 PER APP is absurd. What about ask the developers who create free apps for android? What about customers who have paid for apps but the developers don't choose to pay 5grand to convert the app to a Tizen compatible version? If developing apps using HTML5 is as easy as Fomey says it is then we may have a shot at getting decent apps for the gear2, but if not...... My choice to hold out for the gear2 instead of getting the galaxy gear will probably bite me in the arse. I wonder if the galaxy gear will be able to downgrade after the Tizen update. If not I better go grab one now...
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I never said it was easy hehe.
Seriously tho, it would be awesome if HTML5 apps have hardware access.. we shall see!
I'll be impressed if they can OTA a whole new OS onto the watch. It's a little shady though. Imagine buying an apple computer, and having them ota windows onto it 6 months later.
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Hi all!
I am creating this thread so that we can investigate the possibility of the iPhone & Gear 1(Tizen OS) cooperation.
My observations regarding what works, so far:
1) Basic BT handsfree functionality (which means you can actually talk over the Gear)
2) Caller ID
Let me clarify that the iPhone was a 5S not jailbroken and i did not have the time to perform extensive testing.
I will soon have my iPhone 5 back from the service point and get back.
The interesting result is that Tizen OS offers Caller ID info on the iPhone, whereas the Android OS did not.
Please feel free to contribute to this thread with your own test, results, conclusions.
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Hi all!
I am creating this thread so that we can investigate the possibility of the iPhone & Gear 1(Tizen OS) cooperation.
My observations regarding what works, so far:
1) Basic BT handsfree functionality (which means you can actually talk over the Gear)
2) Caller ID
Let me clarify that the iPhone was a 5S not jailbroken and i did not have the time to perform extensive testing.
I will soon have my iPhone 5 back from the service point and get back.
The interesting result is that Tizen OS offers Caller ID info on the iPhone, whereas the Android OS did not.
Please feel free to contribute to this thread with your own test, results, conclusions.
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interesting test...
but what do you mean by "Android OS did not"?
I have a Note 3... and I can see who is calling mon my Gear with Tizen
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interesting test...
but what do you mean by "Android OS did not"?
I have a Note 3... and I can see who is calling mon my Gear with Tizen
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What he means is that syncing your Gear to your iPhone via bluetooth, when you receive an incoming call
only see is the phone number. Not the name attached to it in your contacts on the iphone. Hope this clears
it up for you.
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interesting test...
but what do you mean by "Android OS did not"?
I have a Note 3... and I can see who is calling mon my Gear with Tizen
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I mean. That when the Gear run Android and was connected to the iPhone, Caller ID was not working, it has to do with the BT profiles the Gear is supporting with the Tizen OD vs what it supported with Android OS,
@Accounti my man maybe you should try to see if you can make the iPhine and the Tizen Gear talk to each other via BT. Some things are definitely changed.
Done some extensive testing with a jailbroken iPhone 5 (iOS 7.1.1) with btnotificationenabler cydia tweak installed.
Nothing new noted.
It seems that the iPhone thinks that the Gear is a handsfree device (so only handsfree BT profile is engaged).
I would appreciate any help, ideas, suggestions.
Thank you!
gidi said:
Done some extensive testing with a jailbroken iPhone 5 (iOS 7.1.1) with btnotificationenabler cydia tweak installed.
Nothing new noted.
It seems that the iPhone thinks that the Gear is a handsfree device (so only handsfree BT profile is engaged).
I would appreciate any help, ideas, suggestions.
Thank you!
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Just purchased gear as a fitness wearable and music player
Working with my iPhone 5s non jailbreak perfectly apart from noticifcations
Hands free works perfect, activating siri on the phone then makes the sound and therefore the interaction come through the Gear
Pretty cool, so I'm planning on jailbreaking to see if there's a siri tweak/HotWord to enable me to activate without actually touching the iPhone
The BTnotifier cydia tweak you've tried, is there any form of notification coming through?
I know on my Pebble watch, is does state that you need to have Banners enabled on the iPhone for the notifications to show on the watch
I'm keen to get this to work too and there MUST be a way lol
pglandscapes said:
Just purchased gear as a fitness wearable and music player
Working with my iPhone 5s non jailbreak perfectly apart from noticifcations
Hands free works perfect, activating siri on the phone then makes the sound and therefore the interaction come through the Gear
Pretty cool, so I'm planning on jailbreaking to see if there's a siri tweak/HotWord to enable me to activate without actually touching the iPhone
The BTnotifier cydia tweak you've tried, is there any form of notification coming through?
I know on my Pebble watch, is does state that you need to have Banners enabled on the iPhone for the notifications to show on the watch
I'm keen to get this to work too and there MUST be a way lol
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Dude, i have done some extensive testing.
BTnotification enabler does not seem to offer anything.
The iPhone sees the Gear as a handsfree device.
In my case there is also caller id, but here is why:
Before connecting the Gear with the iPhone i had paired it to an HTC One and my addressbook was synched over to the watch.
Thing is, the Gear cannot grab the notofications even though the btnotificationenabler tweak exposes them over BT.
Only solution is to downgrade the Gear to Android and use the cloudnotifier tweak @Accounti has created but in that case:
1) There is no direct BT connection.
2) The Caller ID is not working.
3) Battery life and overall responsiveness of the watch are not quite as good as when on Tizen.
Long story short: Wait for the iWatch.
gidi said:
Let me clarify that the iPhone was a 5S not jailbroken and i did not have the time to perform extensive testing.
I will soon have my iPhone 5 back from the service point and get back.
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How did you get the Gear to bypass the screen asking to connect to Galaxy Gear Manager? I am very close to going back to Null_23 at this rate.
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How did you get the Gear to bypass the screen asking to connect to Galaxy Gear Manager? I am very close to going back to Null_23 at this rate.
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Actually i had an HTC One nearby and there is a way to initiate the watch with an Android phone even though it is not Samsung. If you don't have access to an Android phone you cannot do anything.
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Actually i had an HTC One nearby and there is a way to initiate the watch with an Android phone even though it is not Samsung. If you don't have access to an Android phone you cannot do anything.
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Yeah, we are a Mac based company. - no androids today meant I went back to Null rom.
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How did you get the Gear to bypass the screen asking to connect to Galaxy Gear Manager? I am very close to going back to Null_23 at this rate.
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Honestly....I went into my local phone shop, found a samsung test device, clicked the gear manager to connect to the gear and walked out again
As soon as it's activated, you're away!!
Gear App
It seem like Apple fan boy need so much time waiting for iWatch, noted that till now Galaxy Gear family was the best , I had upgrade my gear from Android to Tizen and a lot of Gear2 App we get. All of gear2 app. Interesting:laugh:
But beware of App that drained your battery fast.
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It seem like Apple fan boy need so much time waiting for iWatch, noted that till now Galaxy Gear family was the best , I had upgrade my gear from Android to Tizen and a lot of Gear2 App we get. All of gear2 app. Interesting:laugh:
But beware of App that drained your battery fast.
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Not fussed about an iWatch
I wanted a fitness wearable that could hold it's own music. The fact that it connects to my iPhone with the calls.siri, reads out sat nag directions through the watch speaker.....all a bonus
Added to which it cost me just £35!
Result-happy !!
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xetjoe said:
It seem like Apple fan boy need so much time waiting for iWatch, noted that till now Galaxy Gear family was the best , I had upgrade my gear from Android to Tizen and a lot of Gear2 App we get. All of gear2 app. Interesting:laugh:
But beware of App that drained your battery fast.
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Added to which, since when did simply owning an iPhone make someone a fanbois?!
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Spitfirejay said:
How did you get the Gear to bypass the screen asking to connect to Galaxy Gear Manager? I am very close to going back to Null_23 at this rate.
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Remove the setup wizard while flashing the rom in aroma, under samsung applications, select custom & then de-select "setup wizard" on the next screen.
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gidi said:
Actually i had an HTC One nearby and there is a way to initiate the watch with an Android phone even though it is not Samsung. If you don't have access to an Android phone you cannot do anything.
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remove the 'SecSetupWizardW.apk' from system/app and it will work !
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Remove the setup wizard while flashing the rom in aroma, under samsung applications, select custom & then de-select "setup wizard" on the next screen.
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Right, I understand how to do this for Null, I'm talking about finding a way to bypass on Tizen. Thanks for the suggestion though.
Hello all, I am impatiently awaiting my new Gear 2 Neo.
While doing so, I would like to see (using my Windows PC or my Galaxy S4 phone) what applications / watchfaces etc. exist in the official Galaxy App store.
How can I do that?
Thank you for any pointers
Never mind - got my watch
Sounds like you got in the Rogers deal
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Sounds like you got in the Rogers deal
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Yep. Good deal for a cool watch
I see that people have successfully altered the gear vr consumer edition to work with the Note 4. This is wonderful.
But, I'm wondering, has anyone altered the usb plug so that you plug your usb cable in from your pc to the gear vr?
Yes, it would require some Dremel work, but the benefit would be having a decent vr experience while using trinus vr and tridef 3d with all your favourite pc games.
Considering the gear vr price right now (cheap), its similar to the freefly (google cardboard vr's) that let you plug into your pc while you use it.
Has anyone tried this? I'll let you know if I give it a go. Optimally, you could either plug your phone into the gear, or your pc cable (both options).
I am interested too!
Thought about just replacing the old original plug with a new one. But I guess the oculus store app doesn't start anymore then. Is there a way to start this app manually?
I agree this thread is awesome and it is something that will make some xda dev famous. I molded a consumer gear vr to fit the note 4 and it has been great. I want to play oculus dk games and apps as well as other pc games. If there were 2 things I really want to further the gear mods and make it awesome it is this mod and a way to make all android games vr I really want to play dead trigger 2 in VR unfortunately I have an att note 4 sm-n910a running 5.1.1 so no root so I can't use the new sbs android
Not tried tints yet but doesn't it work over wifi
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I agree this thread is awesome and it is something that will make some xda dev famous. I model a consumer gear vr to fit the note 4 and it has been great. I want to play oculus dk games and apps as well as other pc games. If there were 2 things I really want to further the gear mods and make it awesome it is this mod and a way to make all android games vr I really want to play dead trigger 2 in VR unfortunately I have an att note running 5.1.1 so no root
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Which att note? SGH-i717 (quincyatt)?
use package disabler pro to disable the samsung gear vr service. this will prevent the occulus app from launching. if you enabled dev mode on the vr before you disable the gear vr service you will be able to use it with low persistence. all of this can be done without root. tested it on my s7 with trinusvr trial
If you have a consumer vr can it be done the same way.
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Which att note? SGH-i717 (quincyatt)?
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Sorry note 4 sm-n910a 5.1.1
I do have dev mode and the disabler app, didn't think to go dev mode first or use the low latency. My question is, is that enough? Enough to warrent not mod ding the usb from a charger to a full blown vr input? Is it that good or even good enough? I honestly think this mod would be a god send and whoever mods it considered a god. I heard they brought up doing it to oculus and it was denied. They didn't want mobile at a value to compete with a pc platform that would go for your wallet. On the other spectrum I also wouldn't mind being able to even simply use it as intended to charge my note 4 while playing vr. That would be nice too:good:
Oh yea one more thing is Intugame woth trying or should I just stick with trinus?
This looks promising
https://riftcat.com/vridge
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This looks promising
https://riftcat.com/vridge
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Yes, but way too buggy at the moment. Try Stream Theater for Steam (and non steam) games, works via Moonlight.
Hey developers, ik us citizens have been asking alot from you guys and you guys have been doing alot but, could someone possibly make android wear 2.0 for the gear 2 neo please. It would mean alot to everyone who installs it. Thanks. If you need a link to the 1.5 rom i have a link.
Please do this you guys i believe in you. Thanks.
I want android wear 2.0 for the gear 2 neo too!
do you have the links for 1.5? the screen show you when u have a new whatsapp?
Thx!
Just remove https part
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Hey developers, ik us citizens have been asking alot from you guys and you guys have been doing alot but, could someone possibly make android wear 2.0 for the gear 2 neo please. It would mean alot to everyone who installs it. Thanks. If you need a link to the 1.5 rom i have a link.
Please do this you guys i believe in you. Thanks.
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Just remove the https part and paste the link here please
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Just remove the https part and paste the link here please
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mega.nz/#!pFxSkajI!jswoESwegKV4JNBatPdlp70B3_5x-hWv0LFKBU1kMF4
there ya go
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mega.nz/#!pFxSkajI!jswoESwegKV4JNBatPdlp70B3_5x-hWv0LFKBU1kMF4
there ya go
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Thx!!
Any word on this one?? I too would REALLY appreciate the update to this so I can continue to use my watch.
Anyone willing to make a rom with andriod wear 2 ?
Had my neo working great on my nexus6P until the nexus crashed with the boot loop.
Was able to restore phone after a factory reset, but since then lost all watch faces I had. They used to be there under the new Wear OS (used to be andriod wear)
but all gone. The Rom i have is using andriod wear 1.4
It seems that 1.5 wear, and older, are not supported by wear OS app anymore. As Tizen does not work with non Samsung, my gear 2 neo have no connection to my mobile (Zuk Z2 Pro).
Does anyone know any turn around to make it connect to non samsung mobile?
@CaioCaFe to get your watch working with Android wear 1.5+, you just need to install an older version of the app on your phone, get set it up, then update the app on your phone. It will maintain the connection with your watch. As for going back to Tizen, the Samsung apps do work on some non Samsung phones, but it's relatively limited. There are some modded versions, but I couldn't get any of them to work on my old phone. My current phone (LG Stylo 3) is actually legit compatible, not that I would go back to Tizen if you paid me...unless it was enough to get a Ticwatch, lol.
That being said, I would also like to see Wear 2 for this watch.
Where can I find a android wear apk that works?
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@CaioCaFe to get your watch working with Android wear 1.5+, you just need to install an older version of the app on your phone, get set it up, then update the app on your phone. It will maintain the connection with your watch. As for going back to Tizen, the Samsung apps do work on some non Samsung phones, but it's relatively limited. There are some modded versions, but I couldn't get any of them to work on my old phone. My current phone (LG Stylo 3) is actually legit compatible, not that I would go back to Tizen if you paid me...unless it was enough to get a Ticwatch, lol.
That being said, I would also like to see Wear 2 for this watch.
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Hey, I just got an LG Stylo 3 and cant get my gear 2 neo to connect. I can connect via phone bluetooth, but wear cant find phone and the when I try to connect from the watch the watch wont find the phone. I can answer calls through the watch only. I have the old patch for gear version 2.1.14052101. Any help is appreciated.
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Hey, I just got an LG Stylo 3 and cant get my gear 2 neo to connect. I can connect via phone bluetooth, but wear cant find phone and the when I try to connect from the watch the watch wont find the phone. I can answer calls through the watch only. I have the old patch for gear version 2.1.14052101. Any help is appreciated.
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If your watch has Tizen on it, you can't use Android Wear. You have to use the Samsung apps. If your watch has Wear, you have to go on apkmirror and get an old version of the app. I don't recall exactly how far back you need to go. Also, let the app find the phone. Don't connect it to Bluetooth first.
Any pointers on where to find an older gear apk?
Hi, everyone it work for gear 2 (ir and camera)
Regards