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Just seen the Open webOS ported to the Galaxy Nexus on xda's front page.
Really interested to know whether someone would be porting it to the nexus 7?
I know its early days for Open webOS now but, I really enjoy using it on my Pre.
Thanks
Better get on it
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It'll happen eventually I'm sure.
I Am Marino said:
It'll happen eventually I'm sure.
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The best things always get ported to the best devices
Oh god yes. I want webOS on this thing - just for multitasking alone. Android doesn't even come close (and yes, I tried V6 supercharger, mcTweaker, changing my kernel, Overskreen, changing OOM values, ROM Toolkit, all the build.prop tweaks, Startup Manager, Autokill Memory Manager)
SilverHedgehog said:
Oh god yes. I want webOS on this thing - just for multitasking alone. Android doesn't even come close (and yes, I tried V6 supercharger, mcTweaker, changing my kernel, Overskreen, changing OOM values, ROM Toolkit, all the build.prop tweaks, Startup Manager, Autokill Memory Manager)
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I had a Touchpad for a while.. WebOS was nice... was always missing too many need applications to be able to use it all the time, but I truly did enjoy it.
Well, apparently there's a Dalvik emulator coming out soon - so Android apps will appear, just like on Blackberry Playbook.
Besides, I really like how webOS is closer to proper Linux - to the point where people can run distros as cards.
Thank god it's not just me wanting this, fingers crossed the team behind the nexus port releases their methods and findings soon.
I've been lurking around this since I heard the news of open webOS, well this and native Linux .
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We need a WebOS/Android hybrid.
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We need a WebOS/Android hybrid.
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Well, that'll take a lot of work - pretty much the only similarity between Android and webOS is the Linux kernel.
However apparently there is some sort of an emulator in development.
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Anybody wants to start a bounty thread?
I'd throw in some money for a daily driver port (aka working wifi and gpu acceleration).
I want a port for the Nexus One, G2X, and Nexus 7, maybe the G1 or even then Archos 5 7th generation. If I had free time I would give it a try. It would be my first time but they posted the sources and some basic instructions, so I just have to look around for what I need to change to specific devices.
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I want a port for the Nexus One, G2X, and Nexus 7, maybe the G1 or even then Archos 5 7th generation. If I had free time I would give it a try. It would be my first time but they posted the sources and some basic instructions, so I just have to look around for what I need to change to specific devices.
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It probably will be incredibly difficult for any pre-2011 phone.
Please focus on Nexus 7 first.
Im sure it wont be long before we see it on the N7, I am no wiz when it comes to this but I would assume that if it is possible to get it working on the Nexus then it shouldnt be to much more of an effort to get it going on the N7 being in the Nexus family and all.
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We need a WebOS/Android hybrid.
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Wandroid? Aweb? WaOS?
bmstrong said:
Wandroid? Aweb? WaOS?
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Webdroid.
There's no need to merge, if only somebody could get webOS-style true multitasking implemented in Android.
bmstrong said:
Wandroid? Aweb? WaOS?
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WandOS.
:/
Any news?
Hi Guys
Found this: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
Nexus Factory Images (Nexus 4 image is on there): https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Nexus 4 is not supported by AOSP.
"If AOSP starts pointing toward Nexus 4, you are having a bad problem, and you will not go to space today (i.e.: there is nothing in AOSP related to Nexus 4)." - JBQ
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He also confirmed on Google+.
Imperticus said:
Nexus 4 is not supported by AOSP.
He also confirmed on Google+.
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Not being a developer, I'm not really sure of the implications of this. What are the implications?
raze599 said:
Not being a developer, I'm not really sure of the implications of this. What are the implications?
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Meaning the sources for N4 will not be provided by Google, like they did/do with all other Nexus devices. You won't be able to just download the Android sources and build a ROM like you were able to with other nexus devices.
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Meaning the sources for N4 will not be provided by Google, like they did/do with all other Nexus devices. You won't be able to just download the Android sources and build a ROM like you were able to with other nexus devices.
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Can you give us a link? I just ordered a Nexus 4 and this is awful news.
The Groups link doesn't use clear language and doesn't rule out future release..
this shouldn't be in the dev section
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mark manning said:
this shouldn't be in the dev section
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Im sorry if its in the wrong section but I understood the sticky to say that stock rom's are allowed in the dev section. Please close/move if necessary.
JBQ's post here - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
It clearly says "There is nothing in AOSP related to Nexus 4"
On google+ I asked him: "Does that mean Nexus 4 not supported by AOSP?"
JBQ: Correct.
Me: But any plans to include N4 in AOSP later on?
JBQ: I can't comment about the future, sorry.
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JBQ's post here - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
It clearly says "There is nothing in AOSP related to Nexus 4"
On google+ I asked him: "Does that mean Nexus 4 not supported by AOSP?"
JBQ: Correct.
Me: But any plans to include N4 in AOSP later on?
JBQ: I can't comment about the future, sorry.
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wtf is this nonsense!!!
it's a Nexus device just like the Nexus 7, 10, Galaxy Nexus, etc...y shouldn't it have AOSP?! :crying:
if this were true, then T-Mobile should have went ahead and added wifi calling to their version.
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JBQ's post here - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
It clearly says "There is nothing in AOSP related to Nexus 4"
On google+ I asked him: "Does that mean Nexus 4 not supported by AOSP?"
JBQ: Correct.
Me: But any plans to include N4 in AOSP later on?
JBQ: I can't comment about the future, sorry.
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Oh well at least the factory image is up there. Hope it gets supported by AOSP in the future though.
Let the games begin
No support for AOSP=*%$$#%
"I can't comment on the future of Nexus 4 in AOSP, sorry. -jbq"
huh?? wtfbbq
I just spent rent money on 2 n4's that I stayed up all night trying to buy I WILL have satisfaction
You really can not wait, can you? I am pretty sure the nexus 4 will hit aosp soon, the answer jb gave is a standard answer from him..
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torxx said:
You really can not wait, can you? I am pretty sure the nexus 4 will hit aosp soon, the answer jb gave is a standard answer from him..
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It's just really stupid from Google to say something like "I can't comment about the future."
There is a reason for it and I think it's quite logical to tell it. It wasn't a problem to tell why the N7 3G can't get AOSP support so why should it be a problem with the N4.
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It's just really stupid from Google to say something like "I can't comment about the future."
There is a reason for it and I think it's quite logical to tell it. It wasn't a problem to tell why the N7 3G can't get AOSP support so why should it be a problem with the N4.
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that is what worries me
anyhow 4.2 is live and I'm pulling it down now
*nearly done with my first build for iconia a500
*built flashed and booting woot
The factory image is for all country ?
JBQ - " there is nothing in AOSP
related to Nexus 4"
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
dafuq???
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That really sucks!
Yeah that does suck. Looks like I'm skipping this device.
Ya. Pretty much...
Too bad I already ordered it -.-
Oh well... he also said that he cannot comment on it being included in the future. I'm hoping by the time people start receiving them it will be added
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Not quite sure what this means for us, can somebody explain to me in noob terms?
You guys are interpreting that wrong.
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Audioboxer said:
Not quite sure what this means for us, can somebody explain to me in noob terms?
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its like any Samsung htc device that don't have open sourced drivers - hal's which is sucks :crying:
yahyoh said:
its like any Samsung htc device that don't have open sourced drivers - hal's which is sucks :crying:
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FUUUU
I just sold my One X to get away from a gimped development scene...
The N4 is aosp they are talking about something else
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Audioboxer said:
FUUUU
I just sold my One X to get away from a gimped development scene...
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hehe , calm down cuz u will have vanilla android working out of the box ( so cm or aokp will work too i think )
Just means they haven't released source for it yet, nothing more significant than that. Sometimes stuff isn't finished enough for release, or they have licensing issues with a driver or two. Google *always* eventually release though.
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The N4 is aosp they are talking about something else
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-If AOSP starts pointing toward Nexus 4, you are having a bad problem,
and you will not go to space today (i.e.: there is nothing in AOSP
related to Nexus 4).
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WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! is it really not aosp....??
i sold my galaxy s3 and my brother kept an order for 16 gb nexus over there in us for me....
i fu**ked up....
... confused : how open sourced are other Nexus devices?
I think some of you are overreacting. It's not in AOSP, YET.
From the man himself
To clarify: Nexus 4 is not supported in AOSP at the moment: no source
files, no binaries.
JBQ
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... confused : how open sourced where other Nexus devices?
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Well, you can download AOSP, type a few commands and have something that boots a nexus device fairly quickly. I haven't looked too hard at it but assume there are some binary drivers that get thrown in there.
Google haven't release the build system for the N4 yet - OTOH you could probably hack one together yourself (none of the hardware on the N4 is new to android so presumably the drivers are out there somewhere).
All nexus devices are trivial to update via fastboot, and have builtin unlocks, and the N4 doesn't change that.
Fingers crossed it will be I need the AOSP browser haha
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My guess is that they cant open source a lot of the qualcomm stuff for the modem and the SOC. The TI OMAP is a very open SOC, but they are basically the only ones in the business that do that so if someone want to tinker with GPU, SOC or modem drivers the nexus 4 will not be as open as the galaxy nexus.
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Fingers crossed it will be I need the AOSP browser haha
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What the hell are you talking about? It still runs stock android...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?can=2&start=0&num=100&q=&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=62375
Having tried it on my Nexus 5 i cant see what all the fuss is about, yeah stuff opens a little quicker but its hardly life shattering.
wtf??
im using ART on my 2012 nexus 7 without issue. sure, a few apps donr work on ART(like pandora) but the device seems like it took a dose of speed. its fast without ART, but faster with. ART isnt available on the nexus 7(2012) stock img, but it is available for the nexus 7 on aosp builds.
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Having tried it on my Nexus 5 i cant see what all the fuss is about, yeah stuff opens a little quicker but its hardly life shattering.
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I know that the reason it is not on here is because of I\O wear out on the flash memory.(Crappy chip)
This device can't handle the strain of ART.
I'm just a little irritated that google won't put it in the DEVELOPER!!!! options in there stock build.
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wtf??
im using ART on my 2012 nexus 7 without issue. sure, a few apps donr work on ART(like pandora) but the device seems like it took a dose of speed. its fast without ART, but faster with. ART isnt available on the nexus 7(2012) stock img, but it is available for the nexus 7 on aosp builds.
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I love that kernel
And thanks for the second link in your sig.
I dont want to load up another build though.
And geez. I would figure that google would put it in the for crying out loud developer options.
I like it completely stock.
I start from the ground up with modifying the build to my liking.
Thats why I'm a huge fan of Xposed Framework and the Arch Linux model.
Rant^
Why complain here? is anyone significant going read it.?
I think an explanation is what we need. Obviously it was a technical issue, but like every technical issue, Google leaves us in the dark and leaves us to speculate. I'd also like to know why we can't get a kernal higher than 3.1 when nvidia actually makes a 3.4 kernal too.
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Cor-master said:
I think an explanation is what we need. Obviously it was a technical issue, but like every technical issue, Google leaves us in the dark and leaves us to speculate. I'd also like to know why we can't get a kernal higher than 3.1 when nvidia actually makes a 3.4 kernal too.
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Then why post here? a developers forum of all places. if a problem if being had with google, go email em
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Then why post here? a developers forum of all places. if a problem if being had with google, go email em
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I really don't care that much. As far as I'm concerned my nexus 7 feels more like an antique these days and art or a new Kernal isn't going to magically make it a tegra 4 or give it another gig of ram. I was just replying to the topic that's all, wasn't my creation
More or less agreeing with the op. But I think he meant click on the original link and post your complaints there, not here
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Hey there!
I have just received a vivo, and I would like to develop for it. The phone's specs state that vivo is msm8255, but when I look into the device tree of the phone, the ROMs use msm7x30 platform. Can someone please explain this to me?
Also, does anyone know the name of chips in vivo. This is a very hard thing to find. For example, the bluetooth is BCM4329.
If no one has this information then it is alright, but I would like to my first question answered.
Thank You. :good:
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Hey there!
I have just received a vivo, and I would like to develop for it. The phone's specs state that vivo is msm8255, but when I look into the device tree of the phone, the ROMs use msm7x30 platform. Can someone please explain this to me?
Also, does anyone know the name of chips in vivo. This is a very hard thing to find. For example, the bluetooth is BCM4329.
If no one has this information then it is alright, but I would like to my first question answered.
Thank You. :good:
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You should PM Szeszo on this stuff. He is our main developer and has been pretty much our only developer for almost half a year now. He knows this device inside out
100% same chipset as the 7x30 devices, our 8255 is essentially an overclocked 7x30 like on desire z
That's why desire z has same chipset as us
Bcm 4329 is WiFi too, but bcmdhd is used for AOSP and sense 4 which is ported from One V or latest prima
Wikipedia has some good information
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Why is it so important? As poondog said, our CPU just an msm7x30 on higher clock. But we have that CPU's board name, why? Qualcomm knows... Like the MSM8225 and MSM8625Q (dual and quad-core Cortex-A5 CPUs) has msm7x27a board names. Why? Qualcomm knows...
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Hi everyone, im new here and my incredible s is msm7230 i had root the device and get no problem at all.
And now s KK 4.4. Battery last more then 24 hrs.Thanks to Szezso.
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Can we just call it Bill for simplicity kthxbye
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OK guys. Thanks for your time.
One last question: Is there a 3.4 kernel for vivo?
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OK guys. Thanks for your time.
One last question: Is there a 3.4 kernel for vivo?
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Lol
Nah not a proper one
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poondog said:
Lol
Nah not a proper one
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Not a proper one? Where can I find its source?
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Not a proper one? Where can I find its source?
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Closed source
nah jk it was my april fools joke by the sounds of it you missed out
Just noticed you're an Aussie too, gday
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Closed source
nah jk it was my april fools joke by the sounds of it you missed out
Just noticed you're an Aussie too, gday
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Alright, I'll look into the 3.4 kernel development myself.
Gday to you too my Aussie brother from another mother
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Alright, I'll look into the 3.4 kernel development myself.
Gday to you too my Aussie brother from another mother
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good luck with that we have been looking at it for MONTHS
haha so you are in Adelaide, the most boring city?
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good luck with that we have been looking at it for MONTHS
haha so you are in Adelaide, the most boring city?
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This is off topic, but...
Yes, Adelaide is a boring city. Nothing here to look at (can only look at myself in the mirror)
But what I do like about Adelaide is that it is a planned city; it is very hard to get lost here (even if someone tells you to get lost). When I went to Sydney, I got lost, because the roads aren't straight forward. I've also visited Melbourne, but I didn't like it, because the city there is too tight; the roads are very small, and the trams on the road take up too much space. But Melbourne kind of reminds me of my home country (Pakistan).
By the way, I do know somewhat about kernel development. I have tried to port a 3.4 kernel to a previous device, and I got the kernel to boot, but I coudn't get the ROM to boot. The phone died really quickly and now I cannot fully port the 3.4 kernel to it anymore, however someone else with the same device has already ported it, and I know how he did it. So, I am going to try it with vivo. But, I won't gurantee success.
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This is off topic, but...
Yes, Adelaide is a boring city. Nothing here to look at (can only look at myself in the mirror)
But what I do like about Adelaide is that it is a planned city; it is very hard to get lost here (even if someone tells you to get lost). When I went to Sydney, I got lost, because the roads aren't straight forward. I've also visited Melbourne, but I didn't like it, because the city there is too tight; the roads are very small, and the trams on the road take up too much space. But Melbourne kind of reminds me of my home country (Pakistan).
By the way, I do know somewhat about kernel development. I have tried to port a 3.4 kernel to a previous device, and I got the kernel to boot, but I coudn't get the ROM to boot. The phone died really quickly and now I cannot fully port the 3.4 kernel to it anymore, however someone else with the same device has already ported it, and I know how he did it. So, I am going to try it with vivo. But, I won't gurantee success.
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Yeah haha fair enough it's boring
@szezso has tried but there are like no similar devices with a working 3.4.Y kernel so it's a bit hard.. working with like only one similar 3.4.Y device haha
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poondog said:
Yeah haha fair enough it's boring
@szezso has tried but there are like no similar devices with a working 3.4.Y kernel so it's a bit hard.. working with like only one similar 3.4.Y device haha
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What's that similar device?
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What's that similar device?
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ZTE Warp
msm7x30
OK. I have started. Wish me luck!