Hello guys,
I'm on the verge of buying a new smartphone after being into Windows Phone for too long.
I have a N7 2013 tablet which I've been using to play around with different Custom Roms and Kernels but now it's time to ditch my low end Windows Phone smartphone and go for a medium range Android device to play around with.
The two options at the moment are: Moto G new or an used but mint condition Nexus 4 still under warranty (for another year atleast). The price tag is almost similar 170€ (MotoG) vs 200€ (N4).
Now I know the proc on the MotoG is newer and slightly faster but the N4 sports a bigger screen and more Ram which to be honest, is the decising factor here. However, since I haven't owned any of these two devices I'd like to know if the N4 is still a safe pick, and if there are any issues I should be aware of.
Thanks!
hey , first of all get your facts right .
N4 proc and GPU is way way faster than Moto G's proc and GPU ..
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-400
secondly they both share IPS grade screens , but moto g has an advantage of gorilla glass 3 , ...
thirdly , n4 has one of the best developer community , way better than moto g ..
if u are confused between n4 and moto g , definitely go for the n4 .. its better in every possible aspect
but i would suggest waiting for some newer devices from google they might not be very far from launch
N4 all the way. The Moto G is inferior in every technical aspect (it's still a good phone but if you have the $$$ get something better!). The only physical advantage of the Moto G over the N4 is that the back cover is removable so you can easily swap sim cards without having to use a PIN, if that matters to you.
I have an N5 waiting for me (relative ordered in the states, bringing it when she visits) but I will definitely keep my N4 as a backup rather than sell it like I did with previous phones. The N4 is a great phone and just too good to waste.
Another good thing about Moto G is that is more comfortable at the hand that N4 will be. But overall N4 all the way, for being a AOSP device its simple to custom roms, kernels and everything
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I would try and get a used moto x instead of the nexus
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I have both, the Nexus is faster, bigger screen, better camera, better build quality and has superior development support.
It's a obvious choice for me. ☺
First of all thanks for the feedback.
I will probably go for the Nexus 4 since my budget is this low and the market here is overpriced compared to most places. Infact even the new market is.
The deal also includes a couple of cases, screen protectors and a bumper so it's the best choice.
Thanks all for the feedback.
Excellent choice, bro, you won't regret it.
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when i have a N4 i found the moto g better (Battery+Wireless Charging with mod+only 21Mbit)
and when i have a Moto g i found the N4 better(Dev,Gpu,Display,Glass+Wireless Charging,NFC,42Mbit Download)
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First of all thanks for the feedback.
I will probably go for the Nexus 4
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Probably not a bad call. One yet unmentioned difference is Nexus 4 has NFC, moto g doesn't. I used to couldn't care less about that. But since I found out about Dimple (programmable, batteryless, custom placed NFC buttons), NFC actually matters to me. A lot of folks here dig the sleek buttonlessness of N4 and stuff like it, but I mostly got the phone because it was cheap at the time. I miss buttons a lot, especially for page turning in ebooks.
You never know when that tiny bit of extra functionality will turn out to be awesome. Enjoy your new phone :good:
Yeah, NFC tags at work and home are nice too. Once you start using it its hard to stop
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Moto G has much better battery backup than N4.
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Moto G has much better battery backup than N4.
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^^^ This especially... Deciding between the two is actually tough, my son has the Moto G 16GB GPE edition and I have the Nexus 4 16GB.
I am similar to a previous user... I am mixed and go back and forth between which I prefer. Which is better for you depends on your usage
Moto G gives you incredible battery life (5-7 hours screen time, double the N4), it's waterproof (I can't believe no one mentioned this), Gorilla Glass 3
Nexus 4 has both a faster processor and GPU, has a larger display although I don't find it superior other than size, and has NFC and wireless charging (neither of which I use).
To be honest, although the 21Mbps vs 42Mbps thing is real, in real life it makes little difference in use, same with the processor... the N4 is faster but the G is more efficient, I have noticed little difference in performance between the two.
The Nexus 4 has a tremendous development community with more options and help than you can imagine, and although the Moto G has a decent community with most major ROMs supported, it is definitely not the Nexus 4 in that regard but if it's your thing you won't be bored either.
Honestly, no mater your choice you will get a good phone that will likely last a decent amount of time.
I remember you that the Moto G has a louder Speaker than the Nexus 4.
The moto G also support USB OTG, without any special Y cable or similiar things.
By the way I'm proud to own a Nexus 4.
I own both.
Nexus 4 is a better phone, BUT the Moto G comes damn close. Considering the low price of Moto G, I'll say it's a better bargain, even the more expensive 4G version, which adds support for LTE, which is something Nexus 4 doesn't have. But off course, it depends on the prices of the phones, in the area you live.
Hey guys!
The phone is home and it's the Nexus 4 16GB in super mint condition, with a ****load of screen protectors, bumbers and good cases, you name it.
It came with tempered glass screen protector at the front and a standard screen protector at the back.
Also, LTE isn't a big thing for me. Between Univ and my place I get alot of hotspots through Fon (https://corp.fon.com/pt/microsite/nos) so not a big deal.
Everywhere I go without Internet, I bring my mobile broadband pen and a sharing dock to get wireless.
The Moto G also arrived yesterday from Amazon and it really surprised me. The stock Android with some of Motorola subtle changes really make it a good phone hardware and software wise.
The problem here in Portugal is the used market is too damn retarded. People sell phones at prices that don't make sense. You see low end mobiles being sold at the price of gold. 200€ for a N4 is like a bargain compared to the prices asked for phones like Samsung SII which goes for 150 to 200€ here. Higher end phones never go for less than 300€ and most even locked to networks. A used N5 here would go for over 350€ eventhough the Playstore in Portugal has it at 349€. Yes, people are this retarded because all they care is how much they payed for the phone when they bought it and not the current new prices and the current options. How can you sell a crap phone at 150€ if for 170€ I can get a Moto G. Xiaomi's and other decent Quad cores from Amazon? Well...
Never the less, I'm happy with my choice.
Next step = Unlock Bootloader, Root and get some action going.
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Excelente compra, não te esqueças de aderir à comunidade Nexus Portugal no Google+.
Excellent buy.
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Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.
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Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.
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Yes ..this phone was the most under rated phone .
Its actually better than s3 ...
Feeling sad for the 4x hd users ..
Shame on you LG ...
They haven't even provided software updates
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I'm getting the Samsung Galaxy S4 mini soon (read 2 weeks), just because i want a phone with the same price range (~300 euros) and one which does actually gets new updates
The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.
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The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.
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This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...
brunek said:
This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...
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Apple made 3 year old phones that are still compatible with the latest software updates, also the latest iDevices have less ram than the latest android whilst also ran faster. The problem in android's core engineering used to made manufacturers reluctant to update their software since the hw might not be able to handle the software. But then Jelly Bean came out and ran faster in older devices, and things should change accordingly. But they're not. So yes, it might be their business mindset that needs to change.
I agree to this.. Someone mentioned that they even can get KK 4.4 on their Samsung Galaxy 1!
I'm also thinking about buying a new phone, but it's sad since the Optimus 4X is a good phone! I don't want a phone with the actionbar or what they call it (the back, home and menu buttons on-screen). And IF you gonna buy a new phone these days, i'm thinking it's smart to go for a phone with 1080x1920 screen. I'm thinking HTC One..
i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(
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i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(
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I've noticed the problem with the battery drain as well, but only the last 2 months or so.. I run official CM10.1.3 stable, dunno if that's worse than CM10.2.. Kinda made me wonder lately!
i have try many roms and kernels combo because baterry drain and the best for me is zabien RC7 with original kernel underlock to 475 mhz verry low governor performance set 1 core ...all run enough smooth and i have 3h 50m screen on the best so far for me ... sorry for bad english
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Don't buy a new phone.
The industry wants you to think that you have to upgrade your phone every year, but really, what are you missing?
Is it that important to have 480ppi instead of 320 although you can't really tell a big difference? Is it necessary that your processor is twice as fast, although you can play pretty much every game completely lag free?
Back in the days people had their cellphone for many years, they were solid and bug-free. I think it isn't good to support the development of the ever-growing mobile industry, this isn't good for the environment and it isn't good for your purse
Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).
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Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).
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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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I wont buy an other phone, I will stick to this at least for more 2 years.
I've saved up too much for this and I have the confidence in our developers.
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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.
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Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.
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Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.
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In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.
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Amazon pls
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This will be my last phone of LG...Had HTC Trophy 7 before this one and it received updates regulary issued by Microsoft. Now I have this phone which on paper is amazing and its good in RL too, but I am stuck with old version of Android just because LG wont bother their overpaid devs to release new versions. So basically my LG is in graveyard regarding software. Next time I will go either with Nexus line from Google or go back to MS...at least when they upgrade system all manufacturers receive it...
Just shortly. The only thing i am missing probably is battery of something like 3000mAh.
Everything else fits price and in compare with other phones is just perfect.
You shouldnt request full developers forum as this phone is not a popular model. However with such users population it is just great to have at least few devs!!!!
For those who talk about MS. Probably that is wrong forum to talk about it...
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So T-Mobile is doing the pay your etf thing now so I belive I'll be going there end of the month. Which means bye bye to my atrix.
But I have to decide on a new phone.
So what do yall think I should go with?
Sony xperia z1s
Nexus 5
GS4
LG g2
Or the HTC one.
Too many choices lol.
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To my choice will be Nexus 5 and LG g2 hands down. I have both and i prefer the nexus for some reason.
Main reason I was looking at the Sony was because of battery life. How do those compare? Also kinda cool it's waterproof.
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Well you need to remember as a flashaholic you are you need a phone that will satisfy you in 3rd party support. Lol
All of those phones have good support. As for comparison im bad with that but you have the option to look up at the phonearena website and compare as many phones you want side by side.
For gs4 even is a good phone but i never been a fan of touchwiz same reason i upgrade to moto blurr.
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Yeah the xperia looks sick as well but havent seen it yet
Yeah its not out for another week lol.
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The N5 has pretty a abysmal camera, although the same can be said about the AHD too.
Yeah this camera sucks lol. That's why I want to go to a phone with a decent one.
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Same here jumping ship. Tomorrow I'm gonna go with the lg g2 I think. Have an extra atrix though so I'll still maintain CYANFOX.
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souljaboy said:
The N5 has pretty a abysmal camera, although the same can be said about the AHD too.
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I had the AtrixHD and now I own the N5 and the N5 camera is better but saying the N5 camera is abysmal is just not true and look like you just spread what you read over forums. Same goes with the N5 bad battery life, various manufacturing defects and bad speaker quality. (I'm looking at the serial RMA people)
You pick the posts from loud mouth people but skip over the VAST majority of people that are silently happy with the N5.
My wife use the AtrixHD with the original battery and she is very happy never complained about the battery life.
the N5 is a 350$ superphone and the value is very hard to beat (the moto G is also a very good choice). If you need to do professionnal pictures.... well you shouldn't use a smartphone to take them.
Note : I always buy my phones unlocked so I don't fall for the "99$ Note 3 with 80$ plan" tricks. My 350$ N5 and AHD are both on a 40$ 1Gb/unlimited calls/SMS (Koodo Canada with rebate for BYOD users)
edit : the N5 is freaking fast, freakingly cheap, well supported by modders and always updated to the latest OS by Google. And I LOVE the wireless charging
Get the X dude. Haven't looked back since.
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deeje00 said:
So what do yall think I should go with?
Sony xperia z1s
Nexus 5
GS4
LG g2
Or the HTC one.
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you can search with key words and get actual side by side reviews by owners (as an example "Nexus 5 vs Moto X" )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546258
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512881
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513780
you can find many reviews by OWNERS of any 2 devices. I posted the "N5 vs whatever" but you can search for "whatever vs whatever"
When I got the Nexus 5, I was also looking at the Note 3 as my business phone. Went for the N5 as it was literally half the price of the Note3 but I'm happy with the N5 as I'm pretty sure I would be happy with a Note3.
Truth is : go for the BEST supported phone with the latest technology inside (some of the phones you listed are considered old even if they are good)
Edit : After high expectations of Motorola releasing updates for the MB886, jumping around every time an elusive possibility of upcoming firmware upgrade poping up on the internet. Going to a Nexus device I KNOW FOR SURE will get constant updates is really something else. (then having the stock Android experience is nice even if the AHD is pretty close to stock.)
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Get the X dude. Haven't looked back since.
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I really like the x. But it's not a in-store T-Mobile phone.
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I had the AtrixHD and now I own the N5 and the N5 camera is better but saying the N5 camera is abysmal is just not true and look like you just spread what you read over forums. Same goes with the N5 bad battery life, various manufacturing defects and bad speaker quality. (I'm looking at the serial RMA people)
You pick the posts from loud mouth people but skip over the VAST majority of people that are silently happy with the N5.
My wife use the AtrixHD with the original battery and she is very happy never complained about the battery life.
the N5 is a 350$ superphone and the value is very hard to beat (the moto G is also a very good choice). If you need to do professionnal pictures.... well you shouldn't use a smartphone to take them.
Note : I always buy my phones unlocked so I don't fall for the "99$ Note 3 with 80$ plan" tricks. My 350$ N5 and AHD are both on a 40$ 1Gb/unlimited calls/SMS (Koodo Canada with rebate for BYOD users)
edit : the N5 is freaking fast, freakingly cheap, well supported by modders and always updated to the latest OS by Google. And I LOVE the wireless charging
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I learned that from reviews. I meant the weak camera as relative to the top line phones out there. My bro has note3 and after seeing its pics its hard not to believe what they say in the reviews, its camera truly next gen.
So that's what I compare it to. This thread is posted in 2014 so getting a "good enough" camera in 2013 will become a pretty bad camera this year, just like the AHD camera is now.
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I learned that from reviews. I meant the weak camera as relative to the top line phones out there. My bro has note3 and after seeing its pics its hard not to believe what they say in the reviews, its camera truly next gen.
So that's what I compare it to. This thread is posted in 2014 so getting a "good enough" camera in 2013 will become a pretty bad camera this year, just like the AHD camera is now.
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Here is a reviews on the cameras of most new phones :
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...laxy-S4-LG-G2-Nokia-Lumia-1020-HTC-One_id3500
Maybe I'm not picky but the AHD pictures I took are decent for the use I make of them. I wouldn't take wedding pictures with a phone anyway.
Well, as an example, my Nexus 5 takes better pictures than my Canon Sd1400is. Most pictures I take are in low light with HDR+ enabled on the Nexus 5. Bonus points : I also use a macro lens and a fish eye lens with magnetic ring that hold nicely on the steel backed N5 lens.
Some of the pictures I took with the nexus 5 over the last few weeks :
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Here is a reviews on the cameras of most new phones :
Maybe I'm not picky but the AHD pictures I took are decent for the use I make of them. I wouldn't take wedding pictures with a phone anyway.
Well, as an example, my Nexus 5 takes better pictures than my Canon Sd1400is. Most pictures I take are in low light with HDR+ enabled on the Nexus 5. Bonus points : I also use a macro lens and a fish eye lens with magnetic ring that hold nicely on the steel backed N5 lens.
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I was about to say that about the note3 and our 2-3 yr old DSLR too, haha.
Its funny how these little pinhead cams went from 2008 "barely noteworthy" to 2010 "usable" to 2012 "barely enough" to 2014 "more than enough".
If you remember years back the general opinion of photographer pros was with that size of lens it will physically never be possible to have something comparable to a normal camera. Clear example software innovation is behind hardware in our times.
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Its funny how these little pinhead cams went from 2008 "barely noteworthy" to 2010 "usable" to 2012 "barely enough" to 2014 "more than enough".
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it's off topic but right now I consider buying a point-and-shoot digital as a waste of money; the tech is moving way too fast. Unless you have to zoom far away (optical zoom) you can get away with any smartphone.
I would say nexus 5 i would get a nexus 5 if i could afford one,i may be getting a moto g google play edition or a nexus 4
htc one is nice looking and hold good in hand. But speed-wise, htc one and gs4 are short in front of N5.
lg g2 might be better in hardware than N5( camera, screen,etc) but lg is really suck at software updates. Remember last year's flagship lg optimus g? Now still has 4.1 while N4 has 4.4.2!
After sold my optimus g I jump to N5 without looking at g2 at all.
Using psx rom for N5 now. Everything is very fast. Even way better than Atrix HD using holoblur.( Atrix hd with holoblur is the one of the smoothest phone I ever used).
Camera is not bad in N5 compared to htc one or gs4, personal experience.
Ended up getting a note 3. It wasfun guys. I'm out.
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Is a good choice. My brother have it and the pictures are great quality plus size wise is great, a phone and a mini tablet
I was pretty well set on the Nexus 5 for price reason, unlocked for T-Mobile. But with the sale, I grabbed one of the codes for the Moto X while I try to figure out which I'd like to upgrade to. Since I could currently get the Moto X cheaper that selling point on the Nexus is gone.
If you had to choose today, at the sale prices which do you think you'd choose and why?
Damn im in the same boat and im going to T mobile too ! Im really deciding on the nexus 5 or moto x .. and with these price drops its making me lend to the motox .
I LOVE how the motox features are they just seem really cool and the design is damn nice unlike my nexus 4 was kinda blah.
But i been looking around and there doesnt seem to very much people doing Rom development at all so im broken on that .
And im not sure how long would it take for the moto x to get updated to the newest version of android in the future and if they will just drop everything when a new motox is out and it would take us longer to get updates .
Also future based who knows what new things will come out and if the nexus would get some of the features the motox has.. hmm..
.. so im pretty at a stand still with picking which one. and if i picked the nexus i would feel like i would miss those cool features :crying:
lol decisions..
4.4.2 is soon available for the X. So expect that to come soon as Motorola seem to be shipping updates quicker than any other company out.
ROM development is low because the phone is basically vanilla Android.
Doubt anyone will get the Moto X features. Though it will be replicated, it won't be done the same as in terms of battery management and core processing.
Possibly after the Moto X stops receiving updates, we may have more than a handful of devs jumping on board.
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Damn im in the same boat and im going to T mobile too ! Im really deciding on the nexus 5 or moto x .. and with these price drops its making me lend to the motox .
I LOVE how the motox features are they just seem really cool and the design is damn nice unlike my nexus 4 was kinda blah.
But i been looking around and there doesnt seem to very much people doing Rom development at all so im broken on that .
And im not sure how long would it take for the moto x to get updated to the newest version of android in the future and if they will just drop everything when a new motox is out and it would take us longer to get updates .
Also future based who knows what new things will come out and if the nexus would get some of the features the motox has.. hmm..
.. so im pretty at a stand still with picking which one. and if i picked the nexus i would feel like i would miss those cool features :crying:
lol decisions..
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yeah everyone seems to love the active notifications and touchless control. I'm also not sure how much the extra cores will even matter on the Nexus 5. Most pc applications still aren't properly written to take full advantage of my 4 core computer processors.
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I was pretty well set on the Nexus 5 for price reason, unlocked for T-Mobile. But with the sale, I grabbed one of the codes for the Moto X while I try to figure out which I'd like to upgrade to. Since I could currently get the Moto X cheaper that selling point on the Nexus is gone.
If you had to choose today, at the sale prices which do you think you'd choose and why?
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I decided on the Moto X with the Nexus 5 being a close runner up. My decision was based primary on the Active Notifications, MotoMaker, and (currently) fast updates. Motorola, being owned by Google, should be getting update for some time, but I make no promises.
If you want to be able to use your device and have your battery last throughout the day, Moto X. If you want vanilla AOSP without the Moto additions (not sure why you would), buy a developer edition.
damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
Well I was in the same boat as you. I went for the Moto X because I wanted a phone that, like the iPhone, seems to have been developed around the custom cpu. The only other phone I have ever had that I miss was the Galaxy S2 with the Exynos cpu. So from my view, building a phone around a custom cpu setup should provide better overall experience. That's what I saw when I played with the demo units. I hate seeing lag on my Galaxy S4, especially since it's it's a Snapdragon 600. Plus plain Android just seems better. Forget the fancy overlays.
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I don't even own a Moto X (Galaxy S4), but I'm going to straight up tell you to buy the Moto X. Why?
- Active Notifications (actually useful; I use an app on my Galaxy S4 that is basically a clone)
- MotoMaker/Developer Edition (one or the other, not both)
- Neither have a removable battery or expandable storage, but I know from a lot of people and reviews that the Moto X FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR outlasts the Nexus 5. Yes, the Nexus 5 has the better specs on paper, but the Moto X is far more efficient and performs much better in day to day tasks than top tier devices (Galaxy S4, Note 3, etc).
- Quick updates; the Moto X got Android 4.4 right after the Nexus 5 and before the Nexus 4.
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damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
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This wont' affect me one way or the other. I don't see anything really changing near term, and they've actually grown the laptop business they bought from IBM several years back, and they just bought the low end server business from IBM as well.
imma try out motox and see how it is i cant just write it off since im really curious how it works and runs. If its not for me ill just return it and just go for the nexus 5 =]
I've had both. Returned the N5 straight away. Bad feel in the had, terrible battery (with my usage pattern). Have been rocking an S4 since it came out, last few months with Google Play Edition. Recently got a Moto X and would definitely recommend it all day long over the N5. Feels so great in hand and battery is indeed excellent. It's a tradeoff in terms of screen resolution/size (doesn't make much difference, honestly) but for me I appreciate the in the hand feel.
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Motorola, being owned by Google, should be getting update for some time, but I make no promises.
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I have the N5 & Moto X dev and for a daily driver I choose the Moto X, because of the size, shape, battery life, & the OS "tuned" to multi processors. Yes the N5 has some better specs, & for certain users it's a preference. That said, the Moto X will serve quite well for a few years, at least. So within the next 2 years the convergence of the desktop & phone will be underway & a worthy upgrade to the Moto X will be available. If your not going directly into hacking (N5 if so), then the Moto X is very good choice.
I think rooting is fun and all but most people do it to fix issues with their device. The Moto X doesn't have any (or few, negligible) issues. It's vanilla Android with useful additions. It's a clean slate.
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I think rooting is fun and all but most people do it to fix issues with their device. The Moto X doesn't have any (or few, negligible) issues. It's vanilla Android with useful additions. It's a clean slate.
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yeah the reason i've done it in the past is to remove bloatware and add functionality like tethering.
I think choosing between the N5 and Moto X is a very tough choice. I had the N4 and I love the freedom, MultiRom is a killer feature and it's very hard to let that go.
I chose the Moto X for its advertised features, the battery life, it's size (since I don't like big phones). I love AMOLED screen for the contrast, deep black and lack of backlight leakage, this is one of the best AMOLED screen I've seen in term of colors calibration, it's not extremely saturated like others. Also my impression is the Moto X is somewhat better built, the fact that it have nano coating to provide some water resistance is nice. I'm now also pleasantly surprised it have a great sounding speaker despite in the rear, it's the best sounding rear speaker from a phone I've heard.
I will eventually root my Moto X when I'm certain there are no issues that required use of warranty, but I love the touchless control and active display so I won't be going to custom rom without those features, unless there are some work around (I do use AutoVoice with Tasker). It's just that with other phones they don't have the optimized CPU or they lack AMOLED screen, so even with those third part alternatives I imagined they use up more battery. Despite my Nexus 4 having a quad core, for most tasks they aren't used (unless you install a custom kernel and tweak them). With the Moto X all the cores are better optimized and I'm guessing the language recognition and contextual cores help ease the work load when possible, so really it is more than a dualcore though I wouldn't call it "quadcore". In the end the benchmark score simply beat my Nexus 4 score, which had to be overclocked to match.
There are two things that disappointed me about the Moto X, lacks of qi charging and the headphone jack is CTIA format (I think), which means I need to use an adapter to use some headsets, this is true with some Sony phones, it bother the heck out of me. And also the lack of MultiRom, I really hope it will come to the Moto X one day though.
I think it's a really tough call, the Nexus 5 is a better device if you don't use the Moto X features and want to use custom roms or kernels. With the introduction of KitKat I mostly used stock on my Nexus with ART enabled, custom kernels is still something I desire though.
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damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
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They haven't been bought out and the deal is being finalized, the us govt could step in to prevent it. I don't think I will worry too much about it, I'm just a little skeptical if the Moto X will continue to get updates and fast. Lenovo knows what they're doing, they did okay with Thinkpad and they aren't going to waste $3 billion on a brand just to ruin it. If I had a Moto G I wouldn't be worried at all since it have tons of kernels and roms.
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The language core and contextual core are for doing operations while the phone is sleeping. For example on my Galaxy S4, an "always-listening" feature would significantly impact my battery (and a lot of apps with that option will tell you this), but not with the X's low-power cores. The Snapdragon 800 also has that low-power listening core, but not lower-end CPUs (e.g. Snapdragon 600).
Edit: decision made, no Nexus 6 for me, it's too big, expensive and ugly immo, just ordered a brand new Nexus 5 from Amazon for €300. ☺
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As suspected for a few months, we will probably have a 6" Nexus phone coming this fall.
As a Nexus 4 user i am reluctant to start using a 6" phone, but being a Nexus user since the Nexus One, and after talking to a few friends with the Note i am inclined to take a leap of faith.
What do you guy's think, let's post a few pros and cons so we all can make an informed buy.
Pros:
Better browsing and youtube experience;
Stop carrying a tablet;
Possible massive battery.
Cons:
It won't fit all pockets;
Two hands usage;
Possible weight.
PS: let's skip the 5.2" vs 6" as it probably won't be happening.
I'm ready for the switch
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I'm ready for the switch
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you forgot a unique con which plagues all nexus phones ....**** battery
HYPE.
I'm just waiting for it to be real and purchaseable.
I'm waiting for a Moto Nexus since Google bought Moto back in 2011! (and they do it after selling it to Lenovo lol)
Will buy day 1 regardless of its dimension! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Not going near any 6inch device, no matter if its called Nexus.
I prefer to have a tablet at 10 inch.
Unleashed by my Nexus 4
Nexus 6 should be max 5.5... 6 inches smart phone is useless, According to me
Nope. As much as I love the nexus line, that is just way too damn big for me. If I can't operate it one handed, I don't want it. If anything, I plan to finally move up to the Nexus 5, and the's max size I want in a phone. Any bigger and I say "thanks, but no thanks."
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you forgot a unique con which plagues all nexus phones ....**** battery
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According to all the rumors, the Nexus 6 will have a 3200+ mAh battery, i just hope the QHD display won't eat it too fast...
Way to big. Ordered a meizu mx4. Mostly for the camera. I still think that maybe to big.
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To me, N4 is a phone and N6 is not. 5.9" is just crazy, who knows, maybe Google brings something in normal screen size (5" or less) alongside N6.
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As suspected for a few months, we will probably have a 6" Nexus phone coming this fall.
As a Nexus 4 user i am reluctant to start using a 6" phone, but being a Nexus user since the Nexus One, and after talking to a few friends with the Note i am inclined to take a leap of faith.
What do you guy's think, let's post a few pros and cons so we all can make an informed buy.
Pros:
Better browsing and youtube experience;
Stop caring a tablet;
Possible massive battery.
Cons:
It won't fit all pockets;
Two hands usage;
Possible weight.
PS: let's skip the 5.2" vs 6" as it probably won't be happening.
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Pro's: performance (good enough for a couple of years, looking at the specs). Oh, and 4G in Europe.
Con's: size. A big screen sounds great, but portability and one-handed use.
Looks like the terminal will have excellent processing power and RAM plus a big battery so it'll be good for a couple of years, but like everyone else - will this thing fit in a trouser pocket and can it be used 1-handed?
That last point may well force the UI to offer options so that eg status bar can be positioned at the bottom/navbar on the bottom left or right (just saying). But it's a big piece of kit....
This thing doesn't even fit my backpack.
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
I was ready for the switch, couldn't wait...but if the N6 is really gonna be that big I don't think I will buy it. It's too much of a jump from the N4 in terms of size.
If Google really comes out with just the 6 inches version, I think I will choose between the MotoX and the G3. Or maybe even an N5 if I will find one.
I actually think I'm gonna skip this one. As European guy I couldn't picture the size in inches(do it America, I beg you, switch to metric system like the rest of the world! ). Now seeing the two in comparison I must say that it's way too big for me. Nexus 4 is just about the right size, fits in the hand, you can control it with 1 hand. I never found myself wanting a tablet or phablet for that matter. It's phone, laptop or desktop pc for me. I like the keyboard very much to give it up
I'm definitely up for a bigger phone. My Nexus 4 is the biggest phone I've owned, and I'd love a big phablet to use at home for gaming and reading eBooks, and for traveling when I don't want to lug around my laptop. Obviously, I'll be keeping my Nexus 4 to use when I don't want a gigantic slab in my pocket (I want a Sony Z3 Compact for that, but that's several months away for me).
Maybe I'll even pick up a Nexus 5 when the price drops because the 6 is out.
One thing I'm wondering about the Nexus 6 is that, if it comes running Android L out of box, will we be able to "downgrade" it to 4.4.4 KitKat? Obviously, with previous Nexus phones, downgrading to a version prior to its release made no sense, but for those of us that love what the Xposed framework can do for us, I have a feeling 4.4.4 will be ported to the Nexus 6.
Rumor is there'll be a 32GB version for $419USD, and 64GB for $449. If that turns out to be the case, I'm only about $100-150 short of affording the 64GB, which I should be able to save by the time it's available in November.
If the phone does turn out to be 5.9" like most people suspect then I'm out.
I'll be a little disappointed as I was hoping to go from my N4 to an N6 but that screen is FAR too big. It's near enough phablet size and I want a phone not a phablet.
I'll probably just pick up an LG G2 instead. 5.2" is the perfect sized screen IMO.
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I was ready for the switch, couldn't wait...but if the N6 is really gonna be that big I don't think I will buy it. It's too much of a jump from the N4 in terms of size.
If Google really comes out with just the 6 inches version, I think I will choose between the MotoX and the G3. Or maybe even an N5 if I will find one.
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The G3 and MotoX are also my other options but i'm waiting for the price. If the Nexus 6 arrives with a decent price it's a hard choice.
Looks like the next Nexus won't be inheriting the good looks of the GNex/N4/N5 (mostly N4 lol). That's it, i'm out. Can always flash an AOSP Rom on a phone if I want the Nexii feel again.
I will switch when it comes down in price from Fido
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Looks like the next Nexus won't be inheriting the good looks of the GNex/N4/N5 (mostly N4 lol). That's it, i'm out. Can always flash an AOSP Rom on a phone if I want the Nexii feel again.
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You won't get the same experience even on AOSP, had a Galaxy S2 running CM and sold it after two months.
Lot's of bugs and frustration.
What are your thoughts on how the 2014 X compares to just announced Droid Turbo? At least spec wise for now.
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What are your thoughts on how the 2014 X compares to just announced Droid Turbo? At least spec wise for now.
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Why isn't this being released worldwide?!
I would buy it over the Moto X, but I doubt it'll come to the UK, or will be into next year for sure.
It's a Verizon exclusive, likely not to be released anywhere else. Would be an awesome device if it didn't have the Samsung-esque capacitive buttons. Big deal breaker.
As verizon's been having phone GSM unlocked, anyone planning on buying it and use it on other carriers?
Biggest down side might be unable to unlock(so far none with verizon moto devices)
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As verizon's been having phone GSM unlocked, anyone planning on buying it and use it on other carriers?
Biggest down side might be unable to unlock(so far none with verizon moto devices)
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And no lte, or software updates. Itd be pretty pointless to do so unfortunately.
As far as hownthey compare? I mean theres really no comparison. Better processor, screen, battery, camera. There isnt much the moto x offers over it besides design (which is subjective), button layout (also subjective), and slightly smaller size. However the biggest plus the X has is availability on any network.
The 805 is not really better than the 801. In fact, at the same frequency it performs the same. The only improvement you'll see are because 805 is clocked about 6% higher than 801.
Now speaking GPU the 805 has a much better GPU than 801...but because the droid turbo is using a 4k screen in real life the droid turbo will be less powerful than the moto x ( because GPU in 805 is more powerful but has a lot more work to do ).
So because of this I see only one improvement over the X : the battery. And for this of course the device is bigger.
If it didn't have those dumb soft keys it would be a no brainer. Why is it they think we need a 4k screen. Would have been more happy with the performance and extra battery life of 1080p
The only thing that really has me jealous is that ballistic nylon back, it looks tough as hell and I would KILL for that option for the X. Other than that, it doesn't really appeal to me. I think QHD screens are an unnecessary gimmick, and the extra horsepower the Turbo has is needed to compensate for it so I don't expect it to perform that much better than the X, if at all. Even if it does, realistically how much faster can a phone get? The X is blazing, and is easily the fastest phone I've ever owned. I prefer the physical design of the X, I think it is far more mature and elegant, and would choose the X over the Turbo on that alone.
Honestly, no one can deny that the screen is going to look better. Amoled and the particular setup moto used on the X, individual pixels are still discernable to the naked eye. Theres going to be a visual difference.
Bottom line is one phone will NEVER please everyone. You have someone saying 'id take a lower resolution screen with more battery life', then the next guy is going to say 'why only 1080p on a flagship phone in late 2014? The battery can support it!', but the next guy js going to complain about the capacitive keys and someone else wants it a little thinner with a slightly smaller battery.
Like what you have because bottom line we're not drag racing phones here. Theres no competition, at the end of the day they get the job done.
I think the slimmer, sleeker Moto X looks better than the Turbo. Just wish the X had the wireless charging. My wife wants to trade her Bamboo 2014 X for a turbo for that reason - and the bigger battery. She's a busy "soccer mom", in and out of the car all day long - and loved the wireless charging on her old DNA.
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The 805 is not really better than the 801. In fact, at the same frequency it performs the same. The only improvement you'll see are because 805 is clocked about 6% higher than 801.
Now speaking GPU the 805 has a much better GPU than 801...but because the droid turbo is using a 4k screen in real life the droid turbo will be less powerful than the moto x ( because GPU in 805 is more powerful but has a lot more work to do ).
So because of this I see only one improvement over the X : the battery. And for this of course the device is bigger.
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That what The Verge "hands on" with the Droid Turbo commented! If you are on Verizon then go for it! Otherwise; I just go with the Moto X if you like it or another phone. But once you are on Verizon it is hard to get out of it because they tie you in pretty well so you have to pick the right time to do so!
The battery is huge on the Droid - 3900 size! Bigger then the Nexus 6 even.
It will not be a Verizon exclusive. With that name, yes, but in Brazil it will be launched as Moto Maxx (XT1225) and it has already been approved by our FCC equivalent, Anatel. There is a Motorola event scheduled for the 5th of November and it's most likely to announce this. The invitation has a picture with the Droid Turbo's back on it. It's a international version of the Droid Turbo, and while we can't be sure, it shouldn't be a surprise if it launches on Europe and other markets as well.
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Glad to see Turbo will be avail beyond Verizon. I still dont have my X, I wish the X had more battery and better camera, but since I havent experienced these for myself maybe the X will suit my needs. ...who knows...I guess in the states we have 30 days to return??
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Glad to see Turbo will be avail beyond Verizon. I still dont have my X, I wish the X had more battery and better camera, but since I havent experienced these for myself maybe the X will suit my needs. ...who knows...I guess in the states we have 30 days to return??
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only 14 days unless you live in California for Moto X(from the day they ship too so you lose couple days from it)
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only 14 days unless you live in California for Moto X(from the day they ship too so you lose couple days from it)
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I am in Cali, guess I'll have a little more time to decide.
The gsm variant will be called the moto x play. Don't know on release yet but att should be getting it. I have the moto x pure and got my demo turbo today. Its not as bulky as I thought and the screen and performance is not noticeably better. The battery life and camera however are much better. And the ballistic nylon is pretty damn sweet. I still prefer my moto x though.
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The gsm variant will be called the moto x play. Don't know on release yet but att should be getting it. I have the moto x pure and got my demo turbo today. Its not as bulky as I thought and the screen and performance is not noticeably better. The battery life and camera however are much better. And the ballistic nylon is pretty damn sweet. I still prefer my moto x though.
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Any pictures? Why do you prefer the X?
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Any pictures? Why do you prefer the X?
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The capacitive buttons are instantly going to be outdated as Android L has changed them up.
I think a lot of people like myself just hate them, and more than often find they simply add to the bulk of the phone.
The spec is cool on the turbo but it's nowhere near as sleek as the Moto X.
Nexus 6 is way too big!
I think the Moto X is a good medium between the 2 although I do sometimes wish they used a smaller body and went with a 5 inch display.
I prefer the x design