What are your thoughts on how the 2014 X compares to just announced Droid Turbo? At least spec wise for now.
mario24601 said:
What are your thoughts on how the 2014 X compares to just announced Droid Turbo? At least spec wise for now.
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Why isn't this being released worldwide?!
I would buy it over the Moto X, but I doubt it'll come to the UK, or will be into next year for sure.
It's a Verizon exclusive, likely not to be released anywhere else. Would be an awesome device if it didn't have the Samsung-esque capacitive buttons. Big deal breaker.
As verizon's been having phone GSM unlocked, anyone planning on buying it and use it on other carriers?
Biggest down side might be unable to unlock(so far none with verizon moto devices)
vince0312 said:
As verizon's been having phone GSM unlocked, anyone planning on buying it and use it on other carriers?
Biggest down side might be unable to unlock(so far none with verizon moto devices)
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And no lte, or software updates. Itd be pretty pointless to do so unfortunately.
As far as hownthey compare? I mean theres really no comparison. Better processor, screen, battery, camera. There isnt much the moto x offers over it besides design (which is subjective), button layout (also subjective), and slightly smaller size. However the biggest plus the X has is availability on any network.
The 805 is not really better than the 801. In fact, at the same frequency it performs the same. The only improvement you'll see are because 805 is clocked about 6% higher than 801.
Now speaking GPU the 805 has a much better GPU than 801...but because the droid turbo is using a 4k screen in real life the droid turbo will be less powerful than the moto x ( because GPU in 805 is more powerful but has a lot more work to do ).
So because of this I see only one improvement over the X : the battery. And for this of course the device is bigger.
If it didn't have those dumb soft keys it would be a no brainer. Why is it they think we need a 4k screen. Would have been more happy with the performance and extra battery life of 1080p
The only thing that really has me jealous is that ballistic nylon back, it looks tough as hell and I would KILL for that option for the X. Other than that, it doesn't really appeal to me. I think QHD screens are an unnecessary gimmick, and the extra horsepower the Turbo has is needed to compensate for it so I don't expect it to perform that much better than the X, if at all. Even if it does, realistically how much faster can a phone get? The X is blazing, and is easily the fastest phone I've ever owned. I prefer the physical design of the X, I think it is far more mature and elegant, and would choose the X over the Turbo on that alone.
Honestly, no one can deny that the screen is going to look better. Amoled and the particular setup moto used on the X, individual pixels are still discernable to the naked eye. Theres going to be a visual difference.
Bottom line is one phone will NEVER please everyone. You have someone saying 'id take a lower resolution screen with more battery life', then the next guy is going to say 'why only 1080p on a flagship phone in late 2014? The battery can support it!', but the next guy js going to complain about the capacitive keys and someone else wants it a little thinner with a slightly smaller battery.
Like what you have because bottom line we're not drag racing phones here. Theres no competition, at the end of the day they get the job done.
I think the slimmer, sleeker Moto X looks better than the Turbo. Just wish the X had the wireless charging. My wife wants to trade her Bamboo 2014 X for a turbo for that reason - and the bigger battery. She's a busy "soccer mom", in and out of the car all day long - and loved the wireless charging on her old DNA.
Judge584 said:
The 805 is not really better than the 801. In fact, at the same frequency it performs the same. The only improvement you'll see are because 805 is clocked about 6% higher than 801.
Now speaking GPU the 805 has a much better GPU than 801...but because the droid turbo is using a 4k screen in real life the droid turbo will be less powerful than the moto x ( because GPU in 805 is more powerful but has a lot more work to do ).
So because of this I see only one improvement over the X : the battery. And for this of course the device is bigger.
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That what The Verge "hands on" with the Droid Turbo commented! If you are on Verizon then go for it! Otherwise; I just go with the Moto X if you like it or another phone. But once you are on Verizon it is hard to get out of it because they tie you in pretty well so you have to pick the right time to do so!
The battery is huge on the Droid - 3900 size! Bigger then the Nexus 6 even.
It will not be a Verizon exclusive. With that name, yes, but in Brazil it will be launched as Moto Maxx (XT1225) and it has already been approved by our FCC equivalent, Anatel. There is a Motorola event scheduled for the 5th of November and it's most likely to announce this. The invitation has a picture with the Droid Turbo's back on it. It's a international version of the Droid Turbo, and while we can't be sure, it shouldn't be a surprise if it launches on Europe and other markets as well.
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Glad to see Turbo will be avail beyond Verizon. I still dont have my X, I wish the X had more battery and better camera, but since I havent experienced these for myself maybe the X will suit my needs. ...who knows...I guess in the states we have 30 days to return??
mario24601 said:
Glad to see Turbo will be avail beyond Verizon. I still dont have my X, I wish the X had more battery and better camera, but since I havent experienced these for myself maybe the X will suit my needs. ...who knows...I guess in the states we have 30 days to return??
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only 14 days unless you live in California for Moto X(from the day they ship too so you lose couple days from it)
vince0312 said:
only 14 days unless you live in California for Moto X(from the day they ship too so you lose couple days from it)
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I am in Cali, guess I'll have a little more time to decide.
The gsm variant will be called the moto x play. Don't know on release yet but att should be getting it. I have the moto x pure and got my demo turbo today. Its not as bulky as I thought and the screen and performance is not noticeably better. The battery life and camera however are much better. And the ballistic nylon is pretty damn sweet. I still prefer my moto x though.
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The gsm variant will be called the moto x play. Don't know on release yet but att should be getting it. I have the moto x pure and got my demo turbo today. Its not as bulky as I thought and the screen and performance is not noticeably better. The battery life and camera however are much better. And the ballistic nylon is pretty damn sweet. I still prefer my moto x though.
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Any pictures? Why do you prefer the X?
mario24601 said:
Any pictures? Why do you prefer the X?
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The capacitive buttons are instantly going to be outdated as Android L has changed them up.
I think a lot of people like myself just hate them, and more than often find they simply add to the bulk of the phone.
The spec is cool on the turbo but it's nowhere near as sleek as the Moto X.
Nexus 6 is way too big!
I think the Moto X is a good medium between the 2 although I do sometimes wish they used a smaller body and went with a 5 inch display.
I prefer the x design
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So T-Mobile is doing the pay your etf thing now so I belive I'll be going there end of the month. Which means bye bye to my atrix.
But I have to decide on a new phone.
So what do yall think I should go with?
Sony xperia z1s
Nexus 5
GS4
LG g2
Or the HTC one.
Too many choices lol.
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To my choice will be Nexus 5 and LG g2 hands down. I have both and i prefer the nexus for some reason.
Main reason I was looking at the Sony was because of battery life. How do those compare? Also kinda cool it's waterproof.
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Well you need to remember as a flashaholic you are you need a phone that will satisfy you in 3rd party support. Lol
All of those phones have good support. As for comparison im bad with that but you have the option to look up at the phonearena website and compare as many phones you want side by side.
For gs4 even is a good phone but i never been a fan of touchwiz same reason i upgrade to moto blurr.
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Yeah the xperia looks sick as well but havent seen it yet
Yeah its not out for another week lol.
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The N5 has pretty a abysmal camera, although the same can be said about the AHD too.
Yeah this camera sucks lol. That's why I want to go to a phone with a decent one.
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Same here jumping ship. Tomorrow I'm gonna go with the lg g2 I think. Have an extra atrix though so I'll still maintain CYANFOX.
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souljaboy said:
The N5 has pretty a abysmal camera, although the same can be said about the AHD too.
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I had the AtrixHD and now I own the N5 and the N5 camera is better but saying the N5 camera is abysmal is just not true and look like you just spread what you read over forums. Same goes with the N5 bad battery life, various manufacturing defects and bad speaker quality. (I'm looking at the serial RMA people)
You pick the posts from loud mouth people but skip over the VAST majority of people that are silently happy with the N5.
My wife use the AtrixHD with the original battery and she is very happy never complained about the battery life.
the N5 is a 350$ superphone and the value is very hard to beat (the moto G is also a very good choice). If you need to do professionnal pictures.... well you shouldn't use a smartphone to take them.
Note : I always buy my phones unlocked so I don't fall for the "99$ Note 3 with 80$ plan" tricks. My 350$ N5 and AHD are both on a 40$ 1Gb/unlimited calls/SMS (Koodo Canada with rebate for BYOD users)
edit : the N5 is freaking fast, freakingly cheap, well supported by modders and always updated to the latest OS by Google. And I LOVE the wireless charging
Get the X dude. Haven't looked back since.
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deeje00 said:
So what do yall think I should go with?
Sony xperia z1s
Nexus 5
GS4
LG g2
Or the HTC one.
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you can search with key words and get actual side by side reviews by owners (as an example "Nexus 5 vs Moto X" )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546258
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512881
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513780
you can find many reviews by OWNERS of any 2 devices. I posted the "N5 vs whatever" but you can search for "whatever vs whatever"
When I got the Nexus 5, I was also looking at the Note 3 as my business phone. Went for the N5 as it was literally half the price of the Note3 but I'm happy with the N5 as I'm pretty sure I would be happy with a Note3.
Truth is : go for the BEST supported phone with the latest technology inside (some of the phones you listed are considered old even if they are good)
Edit : After high expectations of Motorola releasing updates for the MB886, jumping around every time an elusive possibility of upcoming firmware upgrade poping up on the internet. Going to a Nexus device I KNOW FOR SURE will get constant updates is really something else. (then having the stock Android experience is nice even if the AHD is pretty close to stock.)
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Get the X dude. Haven't looked back since.
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I really like the x. But it's not a in-store T-Mobile phone.
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smogtdi said:
I had the AtrixHD and now I own the N5 and the N5 camera is better but saying the N5 camera is abysmal is just not true and look like you just spread what you read over forums. Same goes with the N5 bad battery life, various manufacturing defects and bad speaker quality. (I'm looking at the serial RMA people)
You pick the posts from loud mouth people but skip over the VAST majority of people that are silently happy with the N5.
My wife use the AtrixHD with the original battery and she is very happy never complained about the battery life.
the N5 is a 350$ superphone and the value is very hard to beat (the moto G is also a very good choice). If you need to do professionnal pictures.... well you shouldn't use a smartphone to take them.
Note : I always buy my phones unlocked so I don't fall for the "99$ Note 3 with 80$ plan" tricks. My 350$ N5 and AHD are both on a 40$ 1Gb/unlimited calls/SMS (Koodo Canada with rebate for BYOD users)
edit : the N5 is freaking fast, freakingly cheap, well supported by modders and always updated to the latest OS by Google. And I LOVE the wireless charging
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I learned that from reviews. I meant the weak camera as relative to the top line phones out there. My bro has note3 and after seeing its pics its hard not to believe what they say in the reviews, its camera truly next gen.
So that's what I compare it to. This thread is posted in 2014 so getting a "good enough" camera in 2013 will become a pretty bad camera this year, just like the AHD camera is now.
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I learned that from reviews. I meant the weak camera as relative to the top line phones out there. My bro has note3 and after seeing its pics its hard not to believe what they say in the reviews, its camera truly next gen.
So that's what I compare it to. This thread is posted in 2014 so getting a "good enough" camera in 2013 will become a pretty bad camera this year, just like the AHD camera is now.
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Here is a reviews on the cameras of most new phones :
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...laxy-S4-LG-G2-Nokia-Lumia-1020-HTC-One_id3500
Maybe I'm not picky but the AHD pictures I took are decent for the use I make of them. I wouldn't take wedding pictures with a phone anyway.
Well, as an example, my Nexus 5 takes better pictures than my Canon Sd1400is. Most pictures I take are in low light with HDR+ enabled on the Nexus 5. Bonus points : I also use a macro lens and a fish eye lens with magnetic ring that hold nicely on the steel backed N5 lens.
Some of the pictures I took with the nexus 5 over the last few weeks :
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Here is a reviews on the cameras of most new phones :
Maybe I'm not picky but the AHD pictures I took are decent for the use I make of them. I wouldn't take wedding pictures with a phone anyway.
Well, as an example, my Nexus 5 takes better pictures than my Canon Sd1400is. Most pictures I take are in low light with HDR+ enabled on the Nexus 5. Bonus points : I also use a macro lens and a fish eye lens with magnetic ring that hold nicely on the steel backed N5 lens.
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I was about to say that about the note3 and our 2-3 yr old DSLR too, haha.
Its funny how these little pinhead cams went from 2008 "barely noteworthy" to 2010 "usable" to 2012 "barely enough" to 2014 "more than enough".
If you remember years back the general opinion of photographer pros was with that size of lens it will physically never be possible to have something comparable to a normal camera. Clear example software innovation is behind hardware in our times.
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Its funny how these little pinhead cams went from 2008 "barely noteworthy" to 2010 "usable" to 2012 "barely enough" to 2014 "more than enough".
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it's off topic but right now I consider buying a point-and-shoot digital as a waste of money; the tech is moving way too fast. Unless you have to zoom far away (optical zoom) you can get away with any smartphone.
I would say nexus 5 i would get a nexus 5 if i could afford one,i may be getting a moto g google play edition or a nexus 4
htc one is nice looking and hold good in hand. But speed-wise, htc one and gs4 are short in front of N5.
lg g2 might be better in hardware than N5( camera, screen,etc) but lg is really suck at software updates. Remember last year's flagship lg optimus g? Now still has 4.1 while N4 has 4.4.2!
After sold my optimus g I jump to N5 without looking at g2 at all.
Using psx rom for N5 now. Everything is very fast. Even way better than Atrix HD using holoblur.( Atrix hd with holoblur is the one of the smoothest phone I ever used).
Camera is not bad in N5 compared to htc one or gs4, personal experience.
Ended up getting a note 3. It wasfun guys. I'm out.
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Is a good choice. My brother have it and the pictures are great quality plus size wise is great, a phone and a mini tablet
I was pretty well set on the Nexus 5 for price reason, unlocked for T-Mobile. But with the sale, I grabbed one of the codes for the Moto X while I try to figure out which I'd like to upgrade to. Since I could currently get the Moto X cheaper that selling point on the Nexus is gone.
If you had to choose today, at the sale prices which do you think you'd choose and why?
Damn im in the same boat and im going to T mobile too ! Im really deciding on the nexus 5 or moto x .. and with these price drops its making me lend to the motox .
I LOVE how the motox features are they just seem really cool and the design is damn nice unlike my nexus 4 was kinda blah.
But i been looking around and there doesnt seem to very much people doing Rom development at all so im broken on that .
And im not sure how long would it take for the moto x to get updated to the newest version of android in the future and if they will just drop everything when a new motox is out and it would take us longer to get updates .
Also future based who knows what new things will come out and if the nexus would get some of the features the motox has.. hmm..
.. so im pretty at a stand still with picking which one. and if i picked the nexus i would feel like i would miss those cool features :crying:
lol decisions..
4.4.2 is soon available for the X. So expect that to come soon as Motorola seem to be shipping updates quicker than any other company out.
ROM development is low because the phone is basically vanilla Android.
Doubt anyone will get the Moto X features. Though it will be replicated, it won't be done the same as in terms of battery management and core processing.
Possibly after the Moto X stops receiving updates, we may have more than a handful of devs jumping on board.
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Neogx said:
Damn im in the same boat and im going to T mobile too ! Im really deciding on the nexus 5 or moto x .. and with these price drops its making me lend to the motox .
I LOVE how the motox features are they just seem really cool and the design is damn nice unlike my nexus 4 was kinda blah.
But i been looking around and there doesnt seem to very much people doing Rom development at all so im broken on that .
And im not sure how long would it take for the moto x to get updated to the newest version of android in the future and if they will just drop everything when a new motox is out and it would take us longer to get updates .
Also future based who knows what new things will come out and if the nexus would get some of the features the motox has.. hmm..
.. so im pretty at a stand still with picking which one. and if i picked the nexus i would feel like i would miss those cool features :crying:
lol decisions..
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yeah everyone seems to love the active notifications and touchless control. I'm also not sure how much the extra cores will even matter on the Nexus 5. Most pc applications still aren't properly written to take full advantage of my 4 core computer processors.
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I was pretty well set on the Nexus 5 for price reason, unlocked for T-Mobile. But with the sale, I grabbed one of the codes for the Moto X while I try to figure out which I'd like to upgrade to. Since I could currently get the Moto X cheaper that selling point on the Nexus is gone.
If you had to choose today, at the sale prices which do you think you'd choose and why?
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I decided on the Moto X with the Nexus 5 being a close runner up. My decision was based primary on the Active Notifications, MotoMaker, and (currently) fast updates. Motorola, being owned by Google, should be getting update for some time, but I make no promises.
If you want to be able to use your device and have your battery last throughout the day, Moto X. If you want vanilla AOSP without the Moto additions (not sure why you would), buy a developer edition.
damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
Well I was in the same boat as you. I went for the Moto X because I wanted a phone that, like the iPhone, seems to have been developed around the custom cpu. The only other phone I have ever had that I miss was the Galaxy S2 with the Exynos cpu. So from my view, building a phone around a custom cpu setup should provide better overall experience. That's what I saw when I played with the demo units. I hate seeing lag on my Galaxy S4, especially since it's it's a Snapdragon 600. Plus plain Android just seems better. Forget the fancy overlays.
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I don't even own a Moto X (Galaxy S4), but I'm going to straight up tell you to buy the Moto X. Why?
- Active Notifications (actually useful; I use an app on my Galaxy S4 that is basically a clone)
- MotoMaker/Developer Edition (one or the other, not both)
- Neither have a removable battery or expandable storage, but I know from a lot of people and reviews that the Moto X FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR outlasts the Nexus 5. Yes, the Nexus 5 has the better specs on paper, but the Moto X is far more efficient and performs much better in day to day tasks than top tier devices (Galaxy S4, Note 3, etc).
- Quick updates; the Moto X got Android 4.4 right after the Nexus 5 and before the Nexus 4.
Neogx said:
damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
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This wont' affect me one way or the other. I don't see anything really changing near term, and they've actually grown the laptop business they bought from IBM several years back, and they just bought the low end server business from IBM as well.
imma try out motox and see how it is i cant just write it off since im really curious how it works and runs. If its not for me ill just return it and just go for the nexus 5 =]
I've had both. Returned the N5 straight away. Bad feel in the had, terrible battery (with my usage pattern). Have been rocking an S4 since it came out, last few months with Google Play Edition. Recently got a Moto X and would definitely recommend it all day long over the N5. Feels so great in hand and battery is indeed excellent. It's a tradeoff in terms of screen resolution/size (doesn't make much difference, honestly) but for me I appreciate the in the hand feel.
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Motorola, being owned by Google, should be getting update for some time, but I make no promises.
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I have the N5 & Moto X dev and for a daily driver I choose the Moto X, because of the size, shape, battery life, & the OS "tuned" to multi processors. Yes the N5 has some better specs, & for certain users it's a preference. That said, the Moto X will serve quite well for a few years, at least. So within the next 2 years the convergence of the desktop & phone will be underway & a worthy upgrade to the Moto X will be available. If your not going directly into hacking (N5 if so), then the Moto X is very good choice.
I think rooting is fun and all but most people do it to fix issues with their device. The Moto X doesn't have any (or few, negligible) issues. It's vanilla Android with useful additions. It's a clean slate.
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I think rooting is fun and all but most people do it to fix issues with their device. The Moto X doesn't have any (or few, negligible) issues. It's vanilla Android with useful additions. It's a clean slate.
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yeah the reason i've done it in the past is to remove bloatware and add functionality like tethering.
I think choosing between the N5 and Moto X is a very tough choice. I had the N4 and I love the freedom, MultiRom is a killer feature and it's very hard to let that go.
I chose the Moto X for its advertised features, the battery life, it's size (since I don't like big phones). I love AMOLED screen for the contrast, deep black and lack of backlight leakage, this is one of the best AMOLED screen I've seen in term of colors calibration, it's not extremely saturated like others. Also my impression is the Moto X is somewhat better built, the fact that it have nano coating to provide some water resistance is nice. I'm now also pleasantly surprised it have a great sounding speaker despite in the rear, it's the best sounding rear speaker from a phone I've heard.
I will eventually root my Moto X when I'm certain there are no issues that required use of warranty, but I love the touchless control and active display so I won't be going to custom rom without those features, unless there are some work around (I do use AutoVoice with Tasker). It's just that with other phones they don't have the optimized CPU or they lack AMOLED screen, so even with those third part alternatives I imagined they use up more battery. Despite my Nexus 4 having a quad core, for most tasks they aren't used (unless you install a custom kernel and tweak them). With the Moto X all the cores are better optimized and I'm guessing the language recognition and contextual cores help ease the work load when possible, so really it is more than a dualcore though I wouldn't call it "quadcore". In the end the benchmark score simply beat my Nexus 4 score, which had to be overclocked to match.
There are two things that disappointed me about the Moto X, lacks of qi charging and the headphone jack is CTIA format (I think), which means I need to use an adapter to use some headsets, this is true with some Sony phones, it bother the heck out of me. And also the lack of MultiRom, I really hope it will come to the Moto X one day though.
I think it's a really tough call, the Nexus 5 is a better device if you don't use the Moto X features and want to use custom roms or kernels. With the introduction of KitKat I mostly used stock on my Nexus with ART enabled, custom kernels is still something I desire though.
Neogx said:
damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
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They haven't been bought out and the deal is being finalized, the us govt could step in to prevent it. I don't think I will worry too much about it, I'm just a little skeptical if the Moto X will continue to get updates and fast. Lenovo knows what they're doing, they did okay with Thinkpad and they aren't going to waste $3 billion on a brand just to ruin it. If I had a Moto G I wouldn't be worried at all since it have tons of kernels and roms.
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The language core and contextual core are for doing operations while the phone is sleeping. For example on my Galaxy S4, an "always-listening" feature would significantly impact my battery (and a lot of apps with that option will tell you this), but not with the X's low-power cores. The Snapdragon 800 also has that low-power listening core, but not lower-end CPUs (e.g. Snapdragon 600).
Hello guys,
I'm on the verge of buying a new smartphone after being into Windows Phone for too long.
I have a N7 2013 tablet which I've been using to play around with different Custom Roms and Kernels but now it's time to ditch my low end Windows Phone smartphone and go for a medium range Android device to play around with.
The two options at the moment are: Moto G new or an used but mint condition Nexus 4 still under warranty (for another year atleast). The price tag is almost similar 170€ (MotoG) vs 200€ (N4).
Now I know the proc on the MotoG is newer and slightly faster but the N4 sports a bigger screen and more Ram which to be honest, is the decising factor here. However, since I haven't owned any of these two devices I'd like to know if the N4 is still a safe pick, and if there are any issues I should be aware of.
Thanks!
hey , first of all get your facts right .
N4 proc and GPU is way way faster than Moto G's proc and GPU ..
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-400
secondly they both share IPS grade screens , but moto g has an advantage of gorilla glass 3 , ...
thirdly , n4 has one of the best developer community , way better than moto g ..
if u are confused between n4 and moto g , definitely go for the n4 .. its better in every possible aspect
but i would suggest waiting for some newer devices from google they might not be very far from launch
N4 all the way. The Moto G is inferior in every technical aspect (it's still a good phone but if you have the $$$ get something better!). The only physical advantage of the Moto G over the N4 is that the back cover is removable so you can easily swap sim cards without having to use a PIN, if that matters to you.
I have an N5 waiting for me (relative ordered in the states, bringing it when she visits) but I will definitely keep my N4 as a backup rather than sell it like I did with previous phones. The N4 is a great phone and just too good to waste.
Another good thing about Moto G is that is more comfortable at the hand that N4 will be. But overall N4 all the way, for being a AOSP device its simple to custom roms, kernels and everything
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I would try and get a used moto x instead of the nexus
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I have both, the Nexus is faster, bigger screen, better camera, better build quality and has superior development support.
It's a obvious choice for me. ☺
First of all thanks for the feedback.
I will probably go for the Nexus 4 since my budget is this low and the market here is overpriced compared to most places. Infact even the new market is.
The deal also includes a couple of cases, screen protectors and a bumper so it's the best choice.
Thanks all for the feedback.
Excellent choice, bro, you won't regret it.
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when i have a N4 i found the moto g better (Battery+Wireless Charging with mod+only 21Mbit)
and when i have a Moto g i found the N4 better(Dev,Gpu,Display,Glass+Wireless Charging,NFC,42Mbit Download)
username4this said:
First of all thanks for the feedback.
I will probably go for the Nexus 4
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Probably not a bad call. One yet unmentioned difference is Nexus 4 has NFC, moto g doesn't. I used to couldn't care less about that. But since I found out about Dimple (programmable, batteryless, custom placed NFC buttons), NFC actually matters to me. A lot of folks here dig the sleek buttonlessness of N4 and stuff like it, but I mostly got the phone because it was cheap at the time. I miss buttons a lot, especially for page turning in ebooks.
You never know when that tiny bit of extra functionality will turn out to be awesome. Enjoy your new phone :good:
Yeah, NFC tags at work and home are nice too. Once you start using it its hard to stop
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Moto G has much better battery backup than N4.
habunath said:
Moto G has much better battery backup than N4.
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^^^ This especially... Deciding between the two is actually tough, my son has the Moto G 16GB GPE edition and I have the Nexus 4 16GB.
I am similar to a previous user... I am mixed and go back and forth between which I prefer. Which is better for you depends on your usage
Moto G gives you incredible battery life (5-7 hours screen time, double the N4), it's waterproof (I can't believe no one mentioned this), Gorilla Glass 3
Nexus 4 has both a faster processor and GPU, has a larger display although I don't find it superior other than size, and has NFC and wireless charging (neither of which I use).
To be honest, although the 21Mbps vs 42Mbps thing is real, in real life it makes little difference in use, same with the processor... the N4 is faster but the G is more efficient, I have noticed little difference in performance between the two.
The Nexus 4 has a tremendous development community with more options and help than you can imagine, and although the Moto G has a decent community with most major ROMs supported, it is definitely not the Nexus 4 in that regard but if it's your thing you won't be bored either.
Honestly, no mater your choice you will get a good phone that will likely last a decent amount of time.
I remember you that the Moto G has a louder Speaker than the Nexus 4.
The moto G also support USB OTG, without any special Y cable or similiar things.
By the way I'm proud to own a Nexus 4.
I own both.
Nexus 4 is a better phone, BUT the Moto G comes damn close. Considering the low price of Moto G, I'll say it's a better bargain, even the more expensive 4G version, which adds support for LTE, which is something Nexus 4 doesn't have. But off course, it depends on the prices of the phones, in the area you live.
Hey guys!
The phone is home and it's the Nexus 4 16GB in super mint condition, with a ****load of screen protectors, bumbers and good cases, you name it.
It came with tempered glass screen protector at the front and a standard screen protector at the back.
Also, LTE isn't a big thing for me. Between Univ and my place I get alot of hotspots through Fon (https://corp.fon.com/pt/microsite/nos) so not a big deal.
Everywhere I go without Internet, I bring my mobile broadband pen and a sharing dock to get wireless.
The Moto G also arrived yesterday from Amazon and it really surprised me. The stock Android with some of Motorola subtle changes really make it a good phone hardware and software wise.
The problem here in Portugal is the used market is too damn retarded. People sell phones at prices that don't make sense. You see low end mobiles being sold at the price of gold. 200€ for a N4 is like a bargain compared to the prices asked for phones like Samsung SII which goes for 150 to 200€ here. Higher end phones never go for less than 300€ and most even locked to networks. A used N5 here would go for over 350€ eventhough the Playstore in Portugal has it at 349€. Yes, people are this retarded because all they care is how much they payed for the phone when they bought it and not the current new prices and the current options. How can you sell a crap phone at 150€ if for 170€ I can get a Moto G. Xiaomi's and other decent Quad cores from Amazon? Well...
Never the less, I'm happy with my choice.
Next step = Unlock Bootloader, Root and get some action going.
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Excelente compra, não te esqueças de aderir à comunidade Nexus Portugal no Google+.
Excellent buy.
Motorola just announced the new Moto X and G phones. The flagship, the Moto X Style, looks pretty nice. It's great to see the bigger battery, and the addition of a microSD slot. The price- $399 presumably for the 16GB version- is pretty good. However, I would have liked to see USB-C instead of micro USB, as well as Qi charging. It looks like a very nice phone, and if I was in the market for a phone today it could be a compelling option, but the specs aren't really an upgrade over a Droid Turbo.
Key Specs:
OS: Android 5.1.1
CPU: 1.8GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 hexa-core CPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor
GPU: Adreno 418
Screen: 5.7 inch, 1440p
RAM: 3GB
Storage: 16GB/32GB/64GB + microSD
Battery: 3,000mAh
Other: Turbo Charging, microUSB
Price: $399 and up
Difference in my opinion will be a supposedly even faster charging, better processor, microSD slot, bigger screen, options of customization, no bloat whatsoever, and the camera a year newer and hopefully improved. I'm very much considering this phone as my next phone.
Battery will not be as good unless the hexa-core is lighter on the battery than the quad-core. Users of the G4 have the same processor and they've had no issues with multi-tasking vs the S6.
letsief said:
the specs aren't really an upgrade over a Droid Turbo.
Key Specs:
OS: Android 5.1.1
CPU: 1.8GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 hexa-core CPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor
GPU: Adreno 418
Screen: 5.7 inch, 1440p
RAM: 3GB
Storage: 16GB/32GB/64GB + microSD
Battery: 3,000mAh
Other: Turbo Charging, microUSB
Price: $399 and up
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Agreed.
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janitorjohnson said:
Difference in my opinion will be a supposedly even faster charging, better processor, microSD slot, bigger screen, options of customization, no bloat whatsoever, and the camera a year newer and hopefully improved. I'm very much considering this phone as my next phone.
Battery will not be as good unless the hexa-core is lighter on the battery than the quad-core. Users of the G4 have the same processor and they've had no issues with multi-tasking vs the S6.
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1) my Turbo/Maxx phone has no bloat. It's rooted, TWRP installed, CM12.1. I have 5.1.1.
2) with 64GB storage, I haven't had the need for microSD slot.
3) 5.7" screen is too big (reason I never got a Note) and I don't know what you mean by "faster charging". My Quark phone charges at the maximum rate allowed by the Quick Charge 2.0 technology, plus I have Qi wireless charging for convenience. This new Moto X Style will NOT charge any "faster", unless you know something I don't. Is Quick Charge 3.0 out or something?
Also WHY does the 5.5" Moto X Play have a 3650 mAh battery and the 5.7" Moto X Style have a 3000 mAh battery? Someone screwed up there. Either way, I'm keeping my 3900 mAh battery, thank you very much.
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Agreed.
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1) my Turbo/Maxx phone has no bloat. It's rooted, TWRP installed, CM12.1. I have 5.1.1.
2) with 64GB storage, I haven't had the need for microSD slot.
2) 5.7" screen is too big (reason I never got a Note) and I don't know what you mean by "faster charging". My Quark phone charges at the maximum rate allowed by the Quick Charge 2.0 technology, plus I have Qi wireless charging for convenience. This new Moto X Style will NOT charge any "faster", unless you know something I don't. Is Quick Charge 3.0 out or something?
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It claims it charges 50% faster than the Galaxy S6. And it says that in 15 minutes you can have another 10 hours of battery as the Turbo says it gains 8 hours of battery in 15 minutes. Just relay what Iv'e read and interpreted as them trying to say it's faster.
I've also looked into the dimensions and new Moto X doesn't seem to be mush wider than the Turbo. It actually seems very similar to the G4 in it's dimensions and I've held it and really liked it.
I would probably not be looking into another phone, if the Turbo had the ability to have TWRP, but mine does not, because It's locked down.
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It claims it charges 50% faster than the Galaxy S6. And it says that in 15 minutes you can have another 10 hours of battery as the Turbo says it gains 8 hours of battery in 15 minutes. Just relay what Iv'e read and interpreted as them trying to say it's faster.
I've also looked into the dimensions and new Moto X doesn't seem to be mush wider than the Turbo. It actually seems very similar to the G4 in it's dimensions and I've held it and really liked it.
I would probably not be looking into another phone, if the Turbo had the ability to have TWRP, but mine does not, because It's locked down.
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OK. Maybe they found a way to cram more electricity in faster. I thought the Quick Charge 2.0 technology was pretty much the same all over.
If the Quark phone had a rear camera OIS (it really should have for the money paid) and stereo speakers (like the Nexus 6), it really would be the perfect phone. Had everything else!
Speaking of the LG G4... I won an AT&T LG G4 in a pre-release online contest back in June. Supposedly will be delivered sometime in August. I'm immediately selling it on eBay -- after installing a Qi wireless sticker inside the back cover to make it even more valuable. (the circuitry is there, just needs the sticker instead of the "folio" case.)
The 2015 LG G4 is a fantastic phone. I have nothing against it. Even the 2014 LG G3 was top on my list to replace my 2013 gen 5 (LG) Nexus 5, until I found the Moto Maxx XT1225. LG knows how to shave bezels, and they know how to make good phones.
But my XT1225 still meets my needs. It will probably be the first phone I've kept for two full years. I just switched my wife over to my 2nd one, and I'll be selling her Nexus 5 on eBay like I did mine.
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Agreed.
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1) my Turbo/Maxx phone has no bloat. It's rooted, TWRP installed, CM12.1. I have 5.1.1.
2) with 64GB storage, I haven't had the need for microSD slot.
2) 5.7" screen is too big (reason I never got a Note) and I don't know what you mean by "faster charging". My Quark phone charges at the maximum rate allowed by the Quick Charge 2.0 technology, plus I have Qi wireless charging for convenience. This new Moto X Style will NOT charge any "faster", unless you know something I don't. Is Quick Charge 3.0 out or something?
Also WHY does the 5.5" Moto X Play have a 3650 mAh battery and the 5.7" Moto X Style have a 3000 mAh battery? Someone screwed up there. Either way, I'm keeping my 3900 mAh battery, thank you very much.
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I will only consider it if the camera has IOS, the only negative point I see on the Turbo right now. Besides this, is the perfect phone.
And yes, I agree that someone screwed up the Moto X Style with that battery.
Off topic: do you recommend CM as a daily?, or still buggy in some parts?.
Funny. I actually had a G3 with T-Mobile before I had to jump to Verizon because of signal weakness after we moved to Idaho. Before the G3 I had the Nexus 5 as well.
It's really a tall order to get 2 years out of a phone.
Is anyone else disappointed with Style having LCD screen vs Turbo and all other previous high-end phones having OLED? Bad black levels...
itanas said:
Is anyone else disappointed with Style having LCD screen vs Turbo and all other previous high-end phones having OLED? Bad black levels...
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Well this is the successor to the 2014 Moto X -- NOT the successor to the 2014 Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx).
In my opinion, the 2014 Moto X was weak for a "flagship" phone. The LG G3 beat it handily. (Just like the 2013 LG G2 beat the 2013 Moto X. There was a very good reason Google chose the LG G2 as the Nexus 5 template and not anything Motorola made. And Google even owned Motorola at the time.) Whereas the 2014 Moto Quark phone was more what the 2014 Moto X should have been -- to be a true "top tier" phone.
Comparing the 2015 Moto X Style to our 2014 Quark phone is like comparing the 2014 (top of the line) Toyota Camry to the 2015 (lower class) Toyota Corolla, or comparing the 2014 (top of the line) Honda Accord to the 2015 (lower class) Honda Civic. Wait until the 2015 Quark successor model arrives that is in the same class as our phones!
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janitorjohnson said:
I've also looked into the dimensions and new Moto X doesn't seem to be mush wider than the Turbo. It actually seems very similar to the G4 in it's dimensions and I've held it and really liked it.
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FYI, specs comparison of all 3 phones side by side:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...orola-Moto-X-Style/phones/8956,9104,9553?ft=2
Screenshot of part here. Go to link to see full comparison.
The LG G4 and Moto X Style both have the same CPU, GPU, RAM, and 3000 mAh battery. The LG G4 has rear camera OIS. The Moto X Style does NOT.
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Off topic: do you recommend CM as a daily?, or still buggy in some parts?.
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Since flashing to CM12.1 from the stock rooted India 5.0.2, I've had no issues. It's snappy, very responsive.
5.0.2 lagged for me 3 or 4 times a day. I would hit a button and nothing would happen for a few seconds -- like there was a conflict in a background process. Now I was also running xposed/Gravity Box (for Lollipop) -- so maybe something didn't play nice. But I had to run Gravity Box on 5.0.2 to get the custom features I wanted... With CM12.1, just about everything is there I need. I'm running it by itself.
Running CM12.1, Nova launcher, and in Developer Options I have Windows Animation scale set to .5x, Transition set to 1x, and Animator duration scale set to .5x. Very fast! :good:
IMPORTANT! Another reason you should use CM12.1 is due to this:
"Stagefright" security vulnerabitily. Been patched in CM12.1 since mid-July. NOT patched yet on stock 5.0.2 on our phones...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62076632&postcount=572
It's too big. I will not even consider it. I already have a nexus 6 laying around that I won't use because it is too big.
I MAY consider the Moto X Play if it comes available. But more likely than not I'll wait and see what the next droid maxx looks like.
JasonJoel said:
It's too big. I will not even consider it. I already have a nexus 6 laying around that I won't use because it is too big.
I MAY consider the Moto X Play if it comes available. But more likely than not I'll wait and see what the next droid maxx looks like.
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If you look its more tall than wide, it's almost as wide as the turbo just slightly wider, but about half an inch taller.
I thought the video GPU was faster on the SD805 vs the SD808 - I don't see any of the new Moto X variations being any kind of "upgrade" compared to a Moto Maxx other then perhaps with respect to the camera. I also don't want any phone with the name "style". I am pretty sure 2015 is the year I don't need a new phone, the Moto Maxx is just that good.
motorola screw up because of this:
Is not AMOLED anymore, how its gonna affect moto display and battery?
its snapdragon 808, not a big leap since droid turbo 805
same 21mpx camera but with better colors
3000 mah battery for a 5.7'' device, our moto maxx / turbo got 3900 and barely can make it one day and half without disabling something
no USB type C
No fingerprint sensor
5.7'' too big, same mistake as google nexus 6 (tough moto x style doesnt look much bigger)
3Gb of ram instead of 4
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
but they improved the price...
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
Jaocagomez said:
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
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Agree with everything you say about the 2015 Moto X Style. It's underwhelming.
However, it's not meant to be a successor to our Quark phone but a successor to the somewhat weak 2014 Moto X. Curious to see if there will be a 2015 Quark (or whatever the code name they choose).
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As for the OnePlus Two... I find it VERY strange they put in so many top tier specs, but left out Quick Charge 2.0, Qi wireless charging, and NFC. Would have cost maybe $50 more to include all that? And total cost of the phone would still be less than $449 or even $439. People would still pay that, believe me! THAT would be a killer phone.
It's like Motorola's inexpiable decision to leave out rear camera OIS on our phones last year -- and stereo speakers, even though they put it in the Nexus 6 (99.5% same specs). So, we KNOW they know how to do it! And putting those hardware specs in really nails home it's a "premium" phone.
Just baffling on the OnePlus Two when they got just about everything else right. I'm not even going to mention the 1080p instead of 1440p, because that decision can be justified by longer battery, even though I prefer 1440p. I can understand the rationale. But including rear camera OIS with laser focus shows they were looking for "KILLER" spec, while leaving out Quick Charge 2.0, Qi, and NFC shows some kind of spec blindness.
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One more note about the Moto X Style. It's launching with 5.1.1 while our "premium" Quark phones do not yet have that from Motorola. Luckily, I am no longer dependent on Motorola for OS updates. I have 5.1.1, courtesy CM12.1...
Jaocagomez said:
motorola screw up because of this:
Is not AMOLED anymore, how its gonna affect moto display and battery?
its snapdragon 808, not a big leap since droid turbo 805
same 21mpx camera but with better colors
3000 mah battery for a 5.7'' device, our moto maxx / turbo got 3900 and barely can make it one day and half without disabling something
no USB type C
No fingerprint sensor
5.7'' too big, same mistake as google nexus 6 (tough moto x style doesnt look much bigger)
3Gb of ram instead of 4
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
but they improved the price...
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
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I was wondering about the camera, if it would be the same or a different one, but if it is the same, then I hope we can get the update via software update, maybe we can compensate the lack of OIS.
:fingers-crossed:
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Jaocagomez said:
motorola screw up because of this:
Is not AMOLED anymore, how its gonna affect moto display and battery?
its snapdragon 808, not a big leap since droid turbo 805
same 21mpx camera but with better colors
3000 mah battery for a 5.7'' device, our moto maxx / turbo got 3900 and barely can make it one day and half without disabling something
no USB type C
No fingerprint sensor
5.7'' too big, same mistake as google nexus 6 (tough moto x style doesnt look much bigger)
3Gb of ram instead of 4
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
but they improved the price...
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
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I was reading regarding the camera sensor and it seems that the Moto Maxx is using the IMX220 and the Moto X Style will be using the IMX230; even they are the same MP, the technology and the quality are different. Still a shame the lack of OIS.
:good:
I'm more interested in seeing the Verizon moto x play phone.... Maxx ii.
Hopefully that is a little more interesting than the Style is.
Will probably be end of the year though.
Jaocagomez said:
motorola screw up because of this:
Is not AMOLED anymore, how its gonna affect moto display and battery?
its snapdragon 808, not a big leap since droid turbo 805
same 21mpx camera but with better colors
3000 mah battery for a 5.7'' device, our moto maxx / turbo got 3900 and barely can make it one day and half without disabling something
no USB type C
No fingerprint sensor
5.7'' too big, same mistake as google nexus 6 (tough moto x style doesnt look much bigger)
3Gb of ram instead of 4
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
but they improved the price...
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
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Am I missing something? The Style has almost the same specs as the Lg G4 and It's a 2015 flagship phone! Why would the Style be any different?
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I kind of agree. If the Style sounds good, you can buy it today - it is called the G4.
JasonJoel said:
I kind of agree. If the Style sounds good, you can buy it today - it is called the G4.
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G4 looks great and all but, for me, the desire to stay on Motorola is really "notifications on approach" feature and stock android. But I am battery whore so Style is not gonna work. I can't go back to that kind of battery life.
I tried to get rid of this ugly-ass Droid Turbo for months. Even bought an N6 and sold it. Locked bootloader , slow updates et al....this phone is still a beast. I really want some Turbo 2 rumors.
i see no reason for myself to upgrade to Moto X Style from Moto Maxx.
it is not a better phone and it have LCD screen which i am not fond of.
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Hi friends, and thanks for being part of the community; I have this Droid Turbo since one month and it's an evident problem of overheating after some minutes of use. How could you solve this problem?
snapdragon Qualcomm 810, 3gbram, 32gb
Many thanks to everyone
You really can't do anything. I have the same issue as well
It not 810 man its 805
My information say 810; anycase, any solution? Undervolting, which I am not able to do?
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How do you know it's overheating? Are you getting a warning message or is it turning off on you?
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Hi. Simply the back cover gets hot when I am in internet or other, without gaming or other
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Xsequence said:
Hi. Simply the back cover gets hot when I am in internet or other, without gaming or other
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It's normal for the device to conduct some heat. If it was overheating, the phone would freeze or display a message. No need to worry.
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Xsequence said:
snapdragon Qualcomm 810, 3gbram, 32gb
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ganggreen30 said:
It not 810 man its 805
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Xsequence said:
My information say 810
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Your information is wrong.
Install CPU-Z it will tell you what you have.
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This other app claims to make your phone run cooler:
Cooler Master –Cooling Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easyx.coolermaster&hl=en
You're right! 805; I read somewhere 810...OK. Thanks for the application
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ChazzMatt said:
Your information is wrong.
Install CPU-Z it will tell you what you have.
This other app claims to make your phone run cooler:
Cooler Master –Cooling Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easyx.coolermaster&hl=en
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Now I'm charging the phone with a normal universal cable (lg); do you think it's the same? Or is it better to use a Motorola cable? And do you think that the quick 2.0 power turbo charger really works well? Thanks
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Xsequence said:
Now I'm charging the phone with a normal universal cable (lg); do you think it's the same? Or is it better to use a Motorola cable? And do you think that the quick 2.0 power turbo charger really works well? Thanks
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Yes, the Quick Charge 2.0 chargers work very well. You do not need to use a Motorola Turbo (Quick Charge 2.0) charger or Motorola cable. Other Quick Charge 2.0 chargers works just as well, in my experience. I own different brands of Quick Charge chargers and different brands of USB cables.
But any Quick Charge 2.0 charger is superior to "regular" (non-Turbo charger) for our Quick Charge 2.0 phones.
Thanks. Any suggestions for other quick charge brands? Please link to me
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ChazzMatt said:
Your information is wrong.
Install CPU-Z it will tell you what you have.
This other app claims to make your phone run cooler:
Cooler Master –Cooling Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easyx.coolermaster&hl=en
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you were right!! tell me, please, what do you think about the moto x force (dt2)? Thanks
2014 quark vs 2015 kinzie
Xsequence said:
you were right!! tell me, please, what do you think about the moto x force (dt2)? Thanks
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I was not impressed with the 2015 Kinzie (Moto X Force/Droid Turbo 2) which is the successor to our 2014 Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx).
Kinzie has problematic Snadragon 810 (which heavily throttles down) vs Quark's Snapdragon 805. Still 3GB RAM. Oh, and SMALLER battery than our Quark (3760 mAh vs 3900). Not a BIGGER battery, but SMALLER. HOW is this is an improvement?
SEE the specs:
QUARK vs KINZIE
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...,Motorola-DROID-Turbo-2/phones/8956,9774?ft=2
The Moto Quark was the 5.2" version of the Moto Nexus 6, while the Kinzie is the 5.4" version of the Quark -- with a SMALLER BATTERY and DIMMER display. The Kinzie does have a microSD card slot, which is the one advantage.
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The 2014 Moto Quark was basically the 5.2" version of the gen6 2014 Moto Nexus 6 Google should have released instead of the 6" WHALE they tried to foist on the public. (Google was testing a 5.2" Nexus 6 variant as late as mid-August 2014. Instead of releasing it, or releasing both, they went with the WHALE phablet which was bigger than any Samsung Galaxy Note. And Google later ADMITTED their mistake -- making the top tier 2015 Nexus 5.7" -- still too big, but smaller than the WHALE -- and now the 2015 top tier Nexus phone will be 5.5", even smaller.)
QUARK: Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAM, 1440p AMOLED display (in 2014!), 3900 mAh battery, Qi wireless charging, turbo charging -- and mine has 64GB internal memory. With ballistic nylon back over kevlar.
Almost perfect! 90% of the Moto Nexus 6 specs and with BIGGER battery than the larger phone, but in a more reasonable size. However, Motorola stupidly left off the rear camera OIS and the stereo speakers. Why?
So, for the 2015 Kinzie, I was hoping Motorola would remedy their idiocy and put those two features back in.
NO. They still left of rear camera OIS and stereo speakers and made the battery SMALLER. Because apparently people complained 3900 mAh was just too much battery? And they added a very gimmicky plastic thingy on top of the AMOLED display to make it dimmer! ("shatterproof shield" but NOT scratch proof -- scratches very easily -- and makes the AMOLED display DIMMER!)
So, instead of buying a Moto X Force or two, I doubled down on the Quark and bought a THIRD new Moto Maxx XT1225 for backup purposes -- in case something happened to the two my wife and I use every day.
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Also, the Kinzie has very limited XDA development:
XDA - Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Force
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2
Good look around. Very sad.
Droid Turbo 2 (Verizon) bootloader of course is still locked down, never rooted. The Moto X Force has root of course, but they only have "unofficial" CM12.1 -- last updated in February 2016 -- and "unofficial" TWRP. It does have stock Marshmallow (but so do we), and they can root, and I run xposed/Gravity Box + other modules.... But still compare those very limited options to all the custom ROMs and stuff we have for the Quark!
Kinzie is not horrible, but it was NOT reall an improvement on the Quark (except for the microSD slot). I could easily argue the Quark is the better phone of the two due to larger battery and more XDA development options!
I basically want a 5.2"-5.4" updated Moto Nexus 6. I want everything --
Qi wireless,
rear camera OIS,
IR sensors,
stereo speakers,
1440p AMOLED display,
large battery.
Motorola did it in 2014 with a phone that was too freakin' big -- the Moto Nexus 6. Motorola ALMOST did it with the 5.2" Quark, but left out rear camera OIS and stereo speakers. I keep waiting for someone to step up and do it right.
Xsequence said:
Hi friends, and thanks for being part of the community; I have this Droid Turbo since one month and it's an evident problem of overheating after some minutes of use. How could you solve this problem?
snapdragon Qualcomm 810, 3gbram, 32gb
Many thanks to everyone
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Underclock and undervolt will save you. It is possible on baybutcher27 kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/kernel-bhb27-kernel-t3207526
My settings are: MAX 2572MHz and -25mV relative to the voltages table.
Done this after overheating with GPS navigation programm, now it's OK.
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Aptahar said:
Underclock and undervolt will save you. It is possible on baybutcher27 kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/kernel-bhb27-kernel-t3207526
My settings are: MAX 2572MHz and -25mV relative to the voltages table.
Done this after overheating with GPS navigation programm, now it's OK.
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Hi! My droid is in stock version, not rooted; is there a possibility to underclock and under volt without any action on the software?
Xsequence said:
Hi! My droid is in stock version, not rooted; is there a possibility to underclock and under volt without any action on the software?
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No, you have to be rooted to actually own and control your phone.
Rooting is the same as being "administrator" "or "admin" in Windows. It just means YOU control the device, not someone else. You can install or uninstall whatever you want, including kernel-elated software that lets you undervolt, underclock or to BLOCK ADS.
I won't own a computer without being admin and I won't own a smartphone without being admin (rooted). It's MY phone, not the manufacturer or the carrier.
I had overheating problems with Plants vs. Zombies Heroes. Within 3-5 minutes, the phone got burning hot--almost too hot to touch the screen. After I got the overheating warning the first and only time, I uninstalled the game. It actually got so hot, the glue released and the screen came up in the bottom left corner. I thought the heat swelled the battery, so I got a new battery only to find that the original wasn't swelled. I changed out the battery anyway, just in case. Who knows what that kind of heat can do to it.
I also noticed my phone running hot when I had CM13 Roms installed. Went back to stock and it only gets warm after playing games for a half hour.