Motorola just announced the new Moto X and G phones. The flagship, the Moto X Style, looks pretty nice. It's great to see the bigger battery, and the addition of a microSD slot. The price- $399 presumably for the 16GB version- is pretty good. However, I would have liked to see USB-C instead of micro USB, as well as Qi charging. It looks like a very nice phone, and if I was in the market for a phone today it could be a compelling option, but the specs aren't really an upgrade over a Droid Turbo.
Key Specs:
OS: Android 5.1.1
CPU: 1.8GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 hexa-core CPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor
GPU: Adreno 418
Screen: 5.7 inch, 1440p
RAM: 3GB
Storage: 16GB/32GB/64GB + microSD
Battery: 3,000mAh
Other: Turbo Charging, microUSB
Price: $399 and up
Difference in my opinion will be a supposedly even faster charging, better processor, microSD slot, bigger screen, options of customization, no bloat whatsoever, and the camera a year newer and hopefully improved. I'm very much considering this phone as my next phone.
Battery will not be as good unless the hexa-core is lighter on the battery than the quad-core. Users of the G4 have the same processor and they've had no issues with multi-tasking vs the S6.
letsief said:
the specs aren't really an upgrade over a Droid Turbo.
Key Specs:
OS: Android 5.1.1
CPU: 1.8GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 hexa-core CPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor
GPU: Adreno 418
Screen: 5.7 inch, 1440p
RAM: 3GB
Storage: 16GB/32GB/64GB + microSD
Battery: 3,000mAh
Other: Turbo Charging, microUSB
Price: $399 and up
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed.
_______
janitorjohnson said:
Difference in my opinion will be a supposedly even faster charging, better processor, microSD slot, bigger screen, options of customization, no bloat whatsoever, and the camera a year newer and hopefully improved. I'm very much considering this phone as my next phone.
Battery will not be as good unless the hexa-core is lighter on the battery than the quad-core. Users of the G4 have the same processor and they've had no issues with multi-tasking vs the S6.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1) my Turbo/Maxx phone has no bloat. It's rooted, TWRP installed, CM12.1. I have 5.1.1.
2) with 64GB storage, I haven't had the need for microSD slot.
3) 5.7" screen is too big (reason I never got a Note) and I don't know what you mean by "faster charging". My Quark phone charges at the maximum rate allowed by the Quick Charge 2.0 technology, plus I have Qi wireless charging for convenience. This new Moto X Style will NOT charge any "faster", unless you know something I don't. Is Quick Charge 3.0 out or something?
Also WHY does the 5.5" Moto X Play have a 3650 mAh battery and the 5.7" Moto X Style have a 3000 mAh battery? Someone screwed up there. Either way, I'm keeping my 3900 mAh battery, thank you very much.
ChazzMatt said:
Agreed.
_______
1) my Turbo/Maxx phone has no bloat. It's rooted, TWRP installed, CM12.1. I have 5.1.1.
2) with 64GB storage, I haven't had the need for microSD slot.
2) 5.7" screen is too big (reason I never got a Note) and I don't know what you mean by "faster charging". My Quark phone charges at the maximum rate allowed by the Quick Charge 2.0 technology, plus I have Qi wireless charging for convenience. This new Moto X Style will NOT charge any "faster", unless you know something I don't. Is Quick Charge 3.0 out or something?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It claims it charges 50% faster than the Galaxy S6. And it says that in 15 minutes you can have another 10 hours of battery as the Turbo says it gains 8 hours of battery in 15 minutes. Just relay what Iv'e read and interpreted as them trying to say it's faster.
I've also looked into the dimensions and new Moto X doesn't seem to be mush wider than the Turbo. It actually seems very similar to the G4 in it's dimensions and I've held it and really liked it.
I would probably not be looking into another phone, if the Turbo had the ability to have TWRP, but mine does not, because It's locked down.
janitorjohnson said:
It claims it charges 50% faster than the Galaxy S6. And it says that in 15 minutes you can have another 10 hours of battery as the Turbo says it gains 8 hours of battery in 15 minutes. Just relay what Iv'e read and interpreted as them trying to say it's faster.
I've also looked into the dimensions and new Moto X doesn't seem to be mush wider than the Turbo. It actually seems very similar to the G4 in it's dimensions and I've held it and really liked it.
I would probably not be looking into another phone, if the Turbo had the ability to have TWRP, but mine does not, because It's locked down.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK. Maybe they found a way to cram more electricity in faster. I thought the Quick Charge 2.0 technology was pretty much the same all over.
If the Quark phone had a rear camera OIS (it really should have for the money paid) and stereo speakers (like the Nexus 6), it really would be the perfect phone. Had everything else!
Speaking of the LG G4... I won an AT&T LG G4 in a pre-release online contest back in June. Supposedly will be delivered sometime in August. I'm immediately selling it on eBay -- after installing a Qi wireless sticker inside the back cover to make it even more valuable. (the circuitry is there, just needs the sticker instead of the "folio" case.)
The 2015 LG G4 is a fantastic phone. I have nothing against it. Even the 2014 LG G3 was top on my list to replace my 2013 gen 5 (LG) Nexus 5, until I found the Moto Maxx XT1225. LG knows how to shave bezels, and they know how to make good phones.
But my XT1225 still meets my needs. It will probably be the first phone I've kept for two full years. I just switched my wife over to my 2nd one, and I'll be selling her Nexus 5 on eBay like I did mine.
ChazzMatt said:
Agreed.
_______
1) my Turbo/Maxx phone has no bloat. It's rooted, TWRP installed, CM12.1. I have 5.1.1.
2) with 64GB storage, I haven't had the need for microSD slot.
2) 5.7" screen is too big (reason I never got a Note) and I don't know what you mean by "faster charging". My Quark phone charges at the maximum rate allowed by the Quick Charge 2.0 technology, plus I have Qi wireless charging for convenience. This new Moto X Style will NOT charge any "faster", unless you know something I don't. Is Quick Charge 3.0 out or something?
Also WHY does the 5.5" Moto X Play have a 3650 mAh battery and the 5.7" Moto X Style have a 3000 mAh battery? Someone screwed up there. Either way, I'm keeping my 3900 mAh battery, thank you very much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will only consider it if the camera has IOS, the only negative point I see on the Turbo right now. Besides this, is the perfect phone.
And yes, I agree that someone screwed up the Moto X Style with that battery.
Off topic: do you recommend CM as a daily?, or still buggy in some parts?.
Funny. I actually had a G3 with T-Mobile before I had to jump to Verizon because of signal weakness after we moved to Idaho. Before the G3 I had the Nexus 5 as well.
It's really a tall order to get 2 years out of a phone.
Is anyone else disappointed with Style having LCD screen vs Turbo and all other previous high-end phones having OLED? Bad black levels...
itanas said:
Is anyone else disappointed with Style having LCD screen vs Turbo and all other previous high-end phones having OLED? Bad black levels...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well this is the successor to the 2014 Moto X -- NOT the successor to the 2014 Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx).
In my opinion, the 2014 Moto X was weak for a "flagship" phone. The LG G3 beat it handily. (Just like the 2013 LG G2 beat the 2013 Moto X. There was a very good reason Google chose the LG G2 as the Nexus 5 template and not anything Motorola made. And Google even owned Motorola at the time.) Whereas the 2014 Moto Quark phone was more what the 2014 Moto X should have been -- to be a true "top tier" phone.
Comparing the 2015 Moto X Style to our 2014 Quark phone is like comparing the 2014 (top of the line) Toyota Camry to the 2015 (lower class) Toyota Corolla, or comparing the 2014 (top of the line) Honda Accord to the 2015 (lower class) Honda Civic. Wait until the 2015 Quark successor model arrives that is in the same class as our phones!
---------- Post added at 01:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:11 PM ----------
janitorjohnson said:
I've also looked into the dimensions and new Moto X doesn't seem to be mush wider than the Turbo. It actually seems very similar to the G4 in it's dimensions and I've held it and really liked it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
FYI, specs comparison of all 3 phones side by side:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...orola-Moto-X-Style/phones/8956,9104,9553?ft=2
Screenshot of part here. Go to link to see full comparison.
The LG G4 and Moto X Style both have the same CPU, GPU, RAM, and 3000 mAh battery. The LG G4 has rear camera OIS. The Moto X Style does NOT.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
---------- Post added at 01:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:15 PM ----------
Galaxo60 said:
Off topic: do you recommend CM as a daily?, or still buggy in some parts?.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Since flashing to CM12.1 from the stock rooted India 5.0.2, I've had no issues. It's snappy, very responsive.
5.0.2 lagged for me 3 or 4 times a day. I would hit a button and nothing would happen for a few seconds -- like there was a conflict in a background process. Now I was also running xposed/Gravity Box (for Lollipop) -- so maybe something didn't play nice. But I had to run Gravity Box on 5.0.2 to get the custom features I wanted... With CM12.1, just about everything is there I need. I'm running it by itself.
Running CM12.1, Nova launcher, and in Developer Options I have Windows Animation scale set to .5x, Transition set to 1x, and Animator duration scale set to .5x. Very fast! :good:
IMPORTANT! Another reason you should use CM12.1 is due to this:
"Stagefright" security vulnerabitily. Been patched in CM12.1 since mid-July. NOT patched yet on stock 5.0.2 on our phones...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62076632&postcount=572
It's too big. I will not even consider it. I already have a nexus 6 laying around that I won't use because it is too big.
I MAY consider the Moto X Play if it comes available. But more likely than not I'll wait and see what the next droid maxx looks like.
JasonJoel said:
It's too big. I will not even consider it. I already have a nexus 6 laying around that I won't use because it is too big.
I MAY consider the Moto X Play if it comes available. But more likely than not I'll wait and see what the next droid maxx looks like.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you look its more tall than wide, it's almost as wide as the turbo just slightly wider, but about half an inch taller.
I thought the video GPU was faster on the SD805 vs the SD808 - I don't see any of the new Moto X variations being any kind of "upgrade" compared to a Moto Maxx other then perhaps with respect to the camera. I also don't want any phone with the name "style". I am pretty sure 2015 is the year I don't need a new phone, the Moto Maxx is just that good.
motorola screw up because of this:
Is not AMOLED anymore, how its gonna affect moto display and battery?
its snapdragon 808, not a big leap since droid turbo 805
same 21mpx camera but with better colors
3000 mah battery for a 5.7'' device, our moto maxx / turbo got 3900 and barely can make it one day and half without disabling something
no USB type C
No fingerprint sensor
5.7'' too big, same mistake as google nexus 6 (tough moto x style doesnt look much bigger)
3Gb of ram instead of 4
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
but they improved the price...
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
Jaocagomez said:
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree with everything you say about the 2015 Moto X Style. It's underwhelming.
However, it's not meant to be a successor to our Quark phone but a successor to the somewhat weak 2014 Moto X. Curious to see if there will be a 2015 Quark (or whatever the code name they choose).
______
As for the OnePlus Two... I find it VERY strange they put in so many top tier specs, but left out Quick Charge 2.0, Qi wireless charging, and NFC. Would have cost maybe $50 more to include all that? And total cost of the phone would still be less than $449 or even $439. People would still pay that, believe me! THAT would be a killer phone.
It's like Motorola's inexpiable decision to leave out rear camera OIS on our phones last year -- and stereo speakers, even though they put it in the Nexus 6 (99.5% same specs). So, we KNOW they know how to do it! And putting those hardware specs in really nails home it's a "premium" phone.
Just baffling on the OnePlus Two when they got just about everything else right. I'm not even going to mention the 1080p instead of 1440p, because that decision can be justified by longer battery, even though I prefer 1440p. I can understand the rationale. But including rear camera OIS with laser focus shows they were looking for "KILLER" spec, while leaving out Quick Charge 2.0, Qi, and NFC shows some kind of spec blindness.
_______
One more note about the Moto X Style. It's launching with 5.1.1 while our "premium" Quark phones do not yet have that from Motorola. Luckily, I am no longer dependent on Motorola for OS updates. I have 5.1.1, courtesy CM12.1...
Jaocagomez said:
motorola screw up because of this:
Is not AMOLED anymore, how its gonna affect moto display and battery?
its snapdragon 808, not a big leap since droid turbo 805
same 21mpx camera but with better colors
3000 mah battery for a 5.7'' device, our moto maxx / turbo got 3900 and barely can make it one day and half without disabling something
no USB type C
No fingerprint sensor
5.7'' too big, same mistake as google nexus 6 (tough moto x style doesnt look much bigger)
3Gb of ram instead of 4
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
but they improved the price...
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was wondering about the camera, if it would be the same or a different one, but if it is the same, then I hope we can get the update via software update, maybe we can compensate the lack of OIS.
:fingers-crossed:
---------- Post added at 04:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:42 AM ----------
Jaocagomez said:
motorola screw up because of this:
Is not AMOLED anymore, how its gonna affect moto display and battery?
its snapdragon 808, not a big leap since droid turbo 805
same 21mpx camera but with better colors
3000 mah battery for a 5.7'' device, our moto maxx / turbo got 3900 and barely can make it one day and half without disabling something
no USB type C
No fingerprint sensor
5.7'' too big, same mistake as google nexus 6 (tough moto x style doesnt look much bigger)
3Gb of ram instead of 4
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
but they improved the price...
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was reading regarding the camera sensor and it seems that the Moto Maxx is using the IMX220 and the Moto X Style will be using the IMX230; even they are the same MP, the technology and the quality are different. Still a shame the lack of OIS.
:good:
I'm more interested in seeing the Verizon moto x play phone.... Maxx ii.
Hopefully that is a little more interesting than the Style is.
Will probably be end of the year though.
Jaocagomez said:
motorola screw up because of this:
Is not AMOLED anymore, how its gonna affect moto display and battery?
its snapdragon 808, not a big leap since droid turbo 805
same 21mpx camera but with better colors
3000 mah battery for a 5.7'' device, our moto maxx / turbo got 3900 and barely can make it one day and half without disabling something
no USB type C
No fingerprint sensor
5.7'' too big, same mistake as google nexus 6 (tough moto x style doesnt look much bigger)
3Gb of ram instead of 4
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
but they improved the price...
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Am I missing something? The Style has almost the same specs as the Lg G4 and It's a 2015 flagship phone! Why would the Style be any different?
Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
I kind of agree. If the Style sounds good, you can buy it today - it is called the G4.
JasonJoel said:
I kind of agree. If the Style sounds good, you can buy it today - it is called the G4.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
G4 looks great and all but, for me, the desire to stay on Motorola is really "notifications on approach" feature and stock android. But I am battery whore so Style is not gonna work. I can't go back to that kind of battery life.
I tried to get rid of this ugly-ass Droid Turbo for months. Even bought an N6 and sold it. Locked bootloader , slow updates et al....this phone is still a beast. I really want some Turbo 2 rumors.
i see no reason for myself to upgrade to Moto X Style from Moto Maxx.
it is not a better phone and it have LCD screen which i am not fond of.
Sent from my XT1225 using XDA Free mobile app
Related
Hi guys, i'm not sure what to do. I Bought a Galaxy S4 four months ago and while it is quite a good phone, i broke the screen (it's pretty fragile) and after i changed the digitalizer, It's not the same anymore. Colors aren't as good as before, and also i got "ghost touches". I'm going to sell the S4 too because i want something more compact. While the 5 inch screen is great for use, i'm going to buy a 10" tablet so i would like something more compact as my primary phone, and for everything else i would have the tablet.
Now, i'm not sure what phone should replace my S4. I was wondering if the Moto G because i love how bright the LCD screen is, but the camera is a bit on the low (compared to S4), and G is a little bit chunky. The biggest pro is its price, just 200$ for 16GB version.
Another option for me was the Moto X. Is more compact, more refined and upscale than Moto G, 4.7" is the "sweet spot" for many, and have nice features like the active notifications, and touchless control. Moto X is at 300$ on Amazon right now. Supposedly both G and X are going to receive Android L update.
I used my S4 mainly for web-browsing. I can trow 20 tabs at once in Chrome and the Snapdragon 600 handles it pretty good. Also i occasionally use it for photos, mainly for documents from college. I love the contrast in AMOLED screens but i don't like how dim they are compared to LCD (Although newer AMOLED such as S5 features the best from both worlds).
Also I was wondering if this phone are too old, maybe there's a new Moto G coming, or what about Moto X.
What can you recommend me?
elestudiante said:
Hi guys, i'm not sure what to do. I Bought a Galaxy S4 four months ago and while it is quite a good phone, i broke the screen (it's pretty fragile) and after i changed the digitalizer, It's not the same anymore. Colors aren't as good as before, and also i got "ghost touches". I'm going to sell the S4 too because i want something more compact. While the 5 inch screen is great for use, i'm going to buy a 10" tablet so i would like something more compact as my primary phone, and for everything else i would have the tablet.
Now, i'm not sure what phone should replace my S4. I was wondering if the Moto G because i love how bright the LCD screen is, but the camera is a bit on the low (compared to S4), and G is a little bit chunky. The biggest pro is its price, just 200$ for 16GB version.
Another option for me was the Moto X. Is more compact, more refined and upscale than Moto G, 4.7" is the "sweet spot" for many, and have nice features like the active notifications, and touchless control. Moto X is at 300$ on Amazon right now. Supposedly both G and X are going to receive Android L update.
I used my S4 mainly for web-browsing. I can trow 20 tabs at once in Chrome and the Snapdragon 600 handles it pretty good. Also i occasionally use it for photos, mainly for documents from college. I love the contrast in AMOLED screens but i don't like how dim they are compared to LCD (Although newer AMOLED such as S5 features the best from both worlds).
Also I was wondering if this phone are too old, maybe there's a new Moto G coming, or what about Moto X.
What can you recommend me?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Soon there will be successor to Moto X, every year theres a new model. Its running old processor though(S4 pro) but its very smooth
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
The X and the G are both great phones! If you can afford the X, obviously its the better choice. But the G is nice too. Lacks the X features tho.
honestly u should def go with the moto x will will just be more satisfied I just got mines a few days ago I lucked up and got the dev model also unlock and I am loving it
and I both iPhone and android user believe me when I say I leave the 5s in the car many times this phone gets it done
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA app
sui785 said:
Soon there will be successor to Moto X, every year theres a new model. Its running old processor though(S4 pro) but its very smooth
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is very true. The S4 Pro is the name that many chipsets from 2012 used, but the CPU and GPU are very much 2013 technology. The CPU is an S4 Pro (similar to N4), but it's got Krait 300 cores (same cores used in Snapdragon 600, N4's S4 used Krait 200 -- N5 uses Krait 400). GPU is Adreno 320 (same as used by N4 and GS4, N5 uses Adreno 330 -- for comparison). I think also worth noting is that the 720p screen will age better on these specs than a phone with a 1080p screen (in terms of how much HW muscle is required to push info to the display).
You probably know this info -- just trying to give the OP as much info as possible on their decision.
I use a Moto X and really appreciate it (again -- very smooth). It might be worth it to see if concrete info on the X+1 comes out soon, but if rumors are true it will be bigger, and will obviously cost a lot more (which certainly makes a difference if you are planning to purchase outright).
Where I live, you can get the Moto X 16GB for the same price for the Moto G 16GB, but the phone is really worth it. I bought my Moto X less than a week ago and I'm totally loving it, it's quick, feels great in the hand and never lags.
If you take too many pictures though, you might feel disappointed. The camera ain't bad, it just is not good (or not as good). The pohne will most likely get updated to Android L, since Moto is currently part of Lenovo, but I don't know if they'll keep it updated after Lenovo starts to taking control over Motorola.
TL;DR: If you find it for a good price, get the Moto X, if you can get anything with a Snapdragon 800, get that.
What are your thoughts on how the 2014 X compares to just announced Droid Turbo? At least spec wise for now.
mario24601 said:
What are your thoughts on how the 2014 X compares to just announced Droid Turbo? At least spec wise for now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why isn't this being released worldwide?!
I would buy it over the Moto X, but I doubt it'll come to the UK, or will be into next year for sure.
It's a Verizon exclusive, likely not to be released anywhere else. Would be an awesome device if it didn't have the Samsung-esque capacitive buttons. Big deal breaker.
As verizon's been having phone GSM unlocked, anyone planning on buying it and use it on other carriers?
Biggest down side might be unable to unlock(so far none with verizon moto devices)
vince0312 said:
As verizon's been having phone GSM unlocked, anyone planning on buying it and use it on other carriers?
Biggest down side might be unable to unlock(so far none with verizon moto devices)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And no lte, or software updates. Itd be pretty pointless to do so unfortunately.
As far as hownthey compare? I mean theres really no comparison. Better processor, screen, battery, camera. There isnt much the moto x offers over it besides design (which is subjective), button layout (also subjective), and slightly smaller size. However the biggest plus the X has is availability on any network.
The 805 is not really better than the 801. In fact, at the same frequency it performs the same. The only improvement you'll see are because 805 is clocked about 6% higher than 801.
Now speaking GPU the 805 has a much better GPU than 801...but because the droid turbo is using a 4k screen in real life the droid turbo will be less powerful than the moto x ( because GPU in 805 is more powerful but has a lot more work to do ).
So because of this I see only one improvement over the X : the battery. And for this of course the device is bigger.
If it didn't have those dumb soft keys it would be a no brainer. Why is it they think we need a 4k screen. Would have been more happy with the performance and extra battery life of 1080p
The only thing that really has me jealous is that ballistic nylon back, it looks tough as hell and I would KILL for that option for the X. Other than that, it doesn't really appeal to me. I think QHD screens are an unnecessary gimmick, and the extra horsepower the Turbo has is needed to compensate for it so I don't expect it to perform that much better than the X, if at all. Even if it does, realistically how much faster can a phone get? The X is blazing, and is easily the fastest phone I've ever owned. I prefer the physical design of the X, I think it is far more mature and elegant, and would choose the X over the Turbo on that alone.
Honestly, no one can deny that the screen is going to look better. Amoled and the particular setup moto used on the X, individual pixels are still discernable to the naked eye. Theres going to be a visual difference.
Bottom line is one phone will NEVER please everyone. You have someone saying 'id take a lower resolution screen with more battery life', then the next guy is going to say 'why only 1080p on a flagship phone in late 2014? The battery can support it!', but the next guy js going to complain about the capacitive keys and someone else wants it a little thinner with a slightly smaller battery.
Like what you have because bottom line we're not drag racing phones here. Theres no competition, at the end of the day they get the job done.
I think the slimmer, sleeker Moto X looks better than the Turbo. Just wish the X had the wireless charging. My wife wants to trade her Bamboo 2014 X for a turbo for that reason - and the bigger battery. She's a busy "soccer mom", in and out of the car all day long - and loved the wireless charging on her old DNA.
Judge584 said:
The 805 is not really better than the 801. In fact, at the same frequency it performs the same. The only improvement you'll see are because 805 is clocked about 6% higher than 801.
Now speaking GPU the 805 has a much better GPU than 801...but because the droid turbo is using a 4k screen in real life the droid turbo will be less powerful than the moto x ( because GPU in 805 is more powerful but has a lot more work to do ).
So because of this I see only one improvement over the X : the battery. And for this of course the device is bigger.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That what The Verge "hands on" with the Droid Turbo commented! If you are on Verizon then go for it! Otherwise; I just go with the Moto X if you like it or another phone. But once you are on Verizon it is hard to get out of it because they tie you in pretty well so you have to pick the right time to do so!
The battery is huge on the Droid - 3900 size! Bigger then the Nexus 6 even.
It will not be a Verizon exclusive. With that name, yes, but in Brazil it will be launched as Moto Maxx (XT1225) and it has already been approved by our FCC equivalent, Anatel. There is a Motorola event scheduled for the 5th of November and it's most likely to announce this. The invitation has a picture with the Droid Turbo's back on it. It's a international version of the Droid Turbo, and while we can't be sure, it shouldn't be a surprise if it launches on Europe and other markets as well.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Glad to see Turbo will be avail beyond Verizon. I still dont have my X, I wish the X had more battery and better camera, but since I havent experienced these for myself maybe the X will suit my needs. ...who knows...I guess in the states we have 30 days to return??
mario24601 said:
Glad to see Turbo will be avail beyond Verizon. I still dont have my X, I wish the X had more battery and better camera, but since I havent experienced these for myself maybe the X will suit my needs. ...who knows...I guess in the states we have 30 days to return??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
only 14 days unless you live in California for Moto X(from the day they ship too so you lose couple days from it)
vince0312 said:
only 14 days unless you live in California for Moto X(from the day they ship too so you lose couple days from it)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am in Cali, guess I'll have a little more time to decide.
The gsm variant will be called the moto x play. Don't know on release yet but att should be getting it. I have the moto x pure and got my demo turbo today. Its not as bulky as I thought and the screen and performance is not noticeably better. The battery life and camera however are much better. And the ballistic nylon is pretty damn sweet. I still prefer my moto x though.
bhp090808 said:
The gsm variant will be called the moto x play. Don't know on release yet but att should be getting it. I have the moto x pure and got my demo turbo today. Its not as bulky as I thought and the screen and performance is not noticeably better. The battery life and camera however are much better. And the ballistic nylon is pretty damn sweet. I still prefer my moto x though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any pictures? Why do you prefer the X?
mario24601 said:
Any pictures? Why do you prefer the X?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The capacitive buttons are instantly going to be outdated as Android L has changed them up.
I think a lot of people like myself just hate them, and more than often find they simply add to the bulk of the phone.
The spec is cool on the turbo but it's nowhere near as sleek as the Moto X.
Nexus 6 is way too big!
I think the Moto X is a good medium between the 2 although I do sometimes wish they used a smaller body and went with a 5 inch display.
I prefer the x design
Has any heavy Droid Turbo user updated to the S6 or LG G4? I am getting a little tired of my Turbo screen - seems the new screens have some much more resolution.
Resolution is the same.. its just the Samsung screen is much much brighter
Color saturation and brightness are the difference. If you are bored of the screen on your Turbo, you might be difficult to please. Also, reports indicate that battery life with the S6 is dismal due to software issues. For me, the Turbo, as with the Droid MAXX series before, always comes down to battery life. It still tops the competition.
Martingitdave said:
Color saturation and brightness are the difference. If you are bored of the screen on your Turbo, you might be difficult to please. Also, reports indicate that battery life with the S6 is dismal due to software issues. For me, the Turbo, as with the Droid MAXX series before, always comes down to battery life. It still tops the competition.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One thing I LOVE about my Moto Maxx (same hardware as the Droid Turbo) is the 3900 mAh battery. Oh my goodness. Coming from two Nexus phones (Google is always skimpy with the batteries), it's been fantastic. The 5.2" Quark phones (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx) have LARGER batteries than the 5.96" Motorola Nexus 6.
I'm not always looking for a place to plug in.
All manufacturers should do that. Just put in a bigger battery!
I notice for the just-announced Galaxy S6 "Active", Samsung has decided to put in a 3500 mAh battery instead of the 2550 mAh they put in the Galaxy S6. THAT small size was very strange. The 2015 5.1" 1440p S6 (2550 mAh) has a SMALLER battery than the 2014 5.1" 1080p Galaxy S5 (2800 mAh). What was Samsung thinking?
______
I just won an AT&T LG G4. Pre-release marketing campaign and I got lucky. $699 retail value. Company says it will arrive first two weeks of August. I'm seriously thinking about selling it on eBay and keeping my Moto Maxx...
The only thing Motorola could have done to make the Moto Maxx better was rear camera OIS like they put in the Nexus 6. They knew how to do it, but didn't. They put everything else in... Qi wireless, turbo charging, 1440p, 3GB RAM, multiple carrier LTE capability, and huge BATTERY.
AT&T just announced a Galaxy S6 Active with a 3500 mAh battery...
Lecithin said:
AT&T just announced a Galaxy S6 Active with a 3500 mAh battery...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just said that.
ChazzMatt said:
I just said that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I love my turbo - I am just going to stick with it until the next Moto comes out
I came to the Turbo from a Note 4. The Samsung has the best screen out there, but not by much. It is fast, and it takes a MicroSD card and you can remove the battery. Touchwhiz has been toned down on the lollipop OTA.
That said, a family member needed a new phone and didn't have the money to spend on an upgrade, so I paid it for her and took the new phone and gave her the Note 4.
I got the Turbo. Game up a little screen size and the SD slot, but the internals are the same, the phone is very well built, gets insane battery life(The Note 4 was no slouch either), and it is water repellent, which matters to me when riding in the summer and I get caught out in a rain storm...
If not for the damned lollipop update taking forever, this would be nearly the perfect phone...
bturkel said:
Has any heavy Droid Turbo user updated to the S6 or LG G4? I am getting a little tired of my Turbo screen - seems the new screens have some much more resolution.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1440x2560 on a 5.2" screen (565 PPI) isn't good enough for you??
I dunno guys, but I'm not able to see much difference between my Droid MAXX (5.0" 720p) and Moto MAXX (5.2" 1440p) when it comes to the pixel density. On stock, the Turbo's warm colors were a bit annoying, but that's something I adjusted in CM12.1 just fine (setting under LiveDisplay 95% to R, 95% to G, 100% to B) and the colors are nicely colder.
I am getting the g4 tomorrow because I had to switch to T-Mobile unfortunately in terms of having unlimited data and what not. I have been fed up with the turbo not receiving lollipop for the longest time. The advanced hd calling bs is wack because in reality if you think about it, the Verizon g2, htc m7, s4 and what not didn't have it at all as well and have been updated to lollipop with no problem way before this phone has even when being promised asap the update. It's been a well good use with the turbo for all this time, exceptional battery life, but didn't like the heating issues it has after using for about 20 mins doing normal browsing on social media and browser.
wadamean said:
I am getting the g4 tomorrow because I had to switch to T-Mobile unfortunately in terms of having unlimited data and what not. I have been fed up with the turbo not receiving lollipop for the longest time. The advanced hd calling bs is wack because in reality if you think about it, the Verizon g2, htc m7, s4 and what not didn't have it at all as well and have been updated to lollipop with no problem way before this phone has even when being promised asap the update. It's been a well good use with the turbo for all this time, exceptional battery life, but didn't like the heating issues it has after using for about 20 mins doing normal browsing on social media and browser.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let us know how the G4 compares.
I plan on sticking with the Turbo (actually Moto Maxx) until the flagship phones are out with the Snapdragon 820...assuming the 820 doesn't have issues like the 810.
GeodudeFFP said:
Let us know how the G4 compares.
I plan on sticking with the Turbo (actually Moto Maxx) until the flagship phones are out with the Snapdragon 820...assuming the 820 doesn't have issues like the 810.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I surely will let all of you know how it stacks up. I might miss the droid turbo because of the battery life, but lg g4 reigns supreme because of the extra battery and super high capacity micro sd expansion.
Having played with the Nexus for several days now, I am glad that I switched. The screen is larger and a tad nicer, and running unmodified Lollipop really is nice for a change. It;s fast, fluid, etc... Easily unlocked and rooted, you get to play with developer previews, etc... It just works really well.
What I miss? Battery life and the gestures, but battery life is still solid and gestures like waving your hand over it... It's nice, but it isn't a deal breaker for me... Overall I think I got the better phone.
SquireSCA said:
Having played with the Nexus for several days now, I am glad that I switched. The screen is larger and a tad nicer, and running unmodified Lollipop really is nice for a change. It;s fast, fluid, etc... Easily unlocked and rooted, you get to play with developer previews, etc... It just works really well.
What I miss? Battery life and the gestures, but battery life is still solid and gestures like waving your hand over it... It's nice, but it isn't a deal breaker for me... Overall I think I got the better phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's good news! I'm glad you are much more satisfied with the nexus, I too was going to get it but its too big for me, plus for me the camera is a crucial feature on a smartphone. I ended up getting the g4 and waiting for it to be delivered today at my house.
wadamean said:
That's good news! I'm glad you are much more satisfied with the nexus, I too was going to get it but its too big for me, plus for me the camera is a crucial feature on a smartphone. I ended up getting the g4 and waiting for it to be delivered today at my house.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The G4 is supposed to be really nice. I went Nexus because I am always getting pissed off that I can't unlock the phone, or updates take forever, etc... I always regret not getting the Nexus or DE phone...
I got the Turbo without even thinking. I just assumed that it had Lollipop... Got annoyed when I saw that it didn't, and started thinking, do I want to be locked into this phone for the next year or two?
I looked at the G4, the S6 and the Nexus and went with the Nexus, while my fiance went with the S6
Ended up getting the lg g4 since I moved to tmobile
Hi friends, and thanks for being part of the community; I have this Droid Turbo since one month and it's an evident problem of overheating after some minutes of use. How could you solve this problem?
snapdragon Qualcomm 810, 3gbram, 32gb
Many thanks to everyone
You really can't do anything. I have the same issue as well
It not 810 man its 805
My information say 810; anycase, any solution? Undervolting, which I am not able to do?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Free mobile app
How do you know it's overheating? Are you getting a warning message or is it turning off on you?
Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
Hi. Simply the back cover gets hot when I am in internet or other, without gaming or other
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Free mobile app
Xsequence said:
Hi. Simply the back cover gets hot when I am in internet or other, without gaming or other
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's normal for the device to conduct some heat. If it was overheating, the phone would freeze or display a message. No need to worry.
Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
Xsequence said:
snapdragon Qualcomm 810, 3gbram, 32gb
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ganggreen30 said:
It not 810 man its 805
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Xsequence said:
My information say 810
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your information is wrong.
Install CPU-Z it will tell you what you have.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
This other app claims to make your phone run cooler:
Cooler Master –Cooling Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easyx.coolermaster&hl=en
You're right! 805; I read somewhere 810...OK. Thanks for the application
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Free mobile app
ChazzMatt said:
Your information is wrong.
Install CPU-Z it will tell you what you have.
This other app claims to make your phone run cooler:
Cooler Master –Cooling Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easyx.coolermaster&hl=en
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now I'm charging the phone with a normal universal cable (lg); do you think it's the same? Or is it better to use a Motorola cable? And do you think that the quick 2.0 power turbo charger really works well? Thanks
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Free mobile app
Xsequence said:
Now I'm charging the phone with a normal universal cable (lg); do you think it's the same? Or is it better to use a Motorola cable? And do you think that the quick 2.0 power turbo charger really works well? Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, the Quick Charge 2.0 chargers work very well. You do not need to use a Motorola Turbo (Quick Charge 2.0) charger or Motorola cable. Other Quick Charge 2.0 chargers works just as well, in my experience. I own different brands of Quick Charge chargers and different brands of USB cables.
But any Quick Charge 2.0 charger is superior to "regular" (non-Turbo charger) for our Quick Charge 2.0 phones.
Thanks. Any suggestions for other quick charge brands? Please link to me
)
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Free mobile app
ChazzMatt said:
Your information is wrong.
Install CPU-Z it will tell you what you have.
This other app claims to make your phone run cooler:
Cooler Master –Cooling Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easyx.coolermaster&hl=en
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you were right!! tell me, please, what do you think about the moto x force (dt2)? Thanks
2014 quark vs 2015 kinzie
Xsequence said:
you were right!! tell me, please, what do you think about the moto x force (dt2)? Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was not impressed with the 2015 Kinzie (Moto X Force/Droid Turbo 2) which is the successor to our 2014 Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx).
Kinzie has problematic Snadragon 810 (which heavily throttles down) vs Quark's Snapdragon 805. Still 3GB RAM. Oh, and SMALLER battery than our Quark (3760 mAh vs 3900). Not a BIGGER battery, but SMALLER. HOW is this is an improvement?
SEE the specs:
QUARK vs KINZIE
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...,Motorola-DROID-Turbo-2/phones/8956,9774?ft=2
The Moto Quark was the 5.2" version of the Moto Nexus 6, while the Kinzie is the 5.4" version of the Quark -- with a SMALLER BATTERY and DIMMER display. The Kinzie does have a microSD card slot, which is the one advantage.
______
The 2014 Moto Quark was basically the 5.2" version of the gen6 2014 Moto Nexus 6 Google should have released instead of the 6" WHALE they tried to foist on the public. (Google was testing a 5.2" Nexus 6 variant as late as mid-August 2014. Instead of releasing it, or releasing both, they went with the WHALE phablet which was bigger than any Samsung Galaxy Note. And Google later ADMITTED their mistake -- making the top tier 2015 Nexus 5.7" -- still too big, but smaller than the WHALE -- and now the 2015 top tier Nexus phone will be 5.5", even smaller.)
QUARK: Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAM, 1440p AMOLED display (in 2014!), 3900 mAh battery, Qi wireless charging, turbo charging -- and mine has 64GB internal memory. With ballistic nylon back over kevlar.
Almost perfect! 90% of the Moto Nexus 6 specs and with BIGGER battery than the larger phone, but in a more reasonable size. However, Motorola stupidly left off the rear camera OIS and the stereo speakers. Why?
So, for the 2015 Kinzie, I was hoping Motorola would remedy their idiocy and put those two features back in.
NO. They still left of rear camera OIS and stereo speakers and made the battery SMALLER. Because apparently people complained 3900 mAh was just too much battery? And they added a very gimmicky plastic thingy on top of the AMOLED display to make it dimmer! ("shatterproof shield" but NOT scratch proof -- scratches very easily -- and makes the AMOLED display DIMMER!)
So, instead of buying a Moto X Force or two, I doubled down on the Quark and bought a THIRD new Moto Maxx XT1225 for backup purposes -- in case something happened to the two my wife and I use every day.
_________
Also, the Kinzie has very limited XDA development:
XDA - Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Force
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2
Good look around. Very sad.
Droid Turbo 2 (Verizon) bootloader of course is still locked down, never rooted. The Moto X Force has root of course, but they only have "unofficial" CM12.1 -- last updated in February 2016 -- and "unofficial" TWRP. It does have stock Marshmallow (but so do we), and they can root, and I run xposed/Gravity Box + other modules.... But still compare those very limited options to all the custom ROMs and stuff we have for the Quark!
Kinzie is not horrible, but it was NOT reall an improvement on the Quark (except for the microSD slot). I could easily argue the Quark is the better phone of the two due to larger battery and more XDA development options!
I basically want a 5.2"-5.4" updated Moto Nexus 6. I want everything --
Qi wireless,
rear camera OIS,
IR sensors,
stereo speakers,
1440p AMOLED display,
large battery.
Motorola did it in 2014 with a phone that was too freakin' big -- the Moto Nexus 6. Motorola ALMOST did it with the 5.2" Quark, but left out rear camera OIS and stereo speakers. I keep waiting for someone to step up and do it right.
Xsequence said:
Hi friends, and thanks for being part of the community; I have this Droid Turbo since one month and it's an evident problem of overheating after some minutes of use. How could you solve this problem?
snapdragon Qualcomm 810, 3gbram, 32gb
Many thanks to everyone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Underclock and undervolt will save you. It is possible on baybutcher27 kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/kernel-bhb27-kernel-t3207526
My settings are: MAX 2572MHz and -25mV relative to the voltages table.
Done this after overheating with GPS navigation programm, now it's OK.
droid turbo
Aptahar said:
Underclock and undervolt will save you. It is possible on baybutcher27 kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/development/kernel-bhb27-kernel-t3207526
My settings are: MAX 2572MHz and -25mV relative to the voltages table.
Done this after overheating with GPS navigation programm, now it's OK.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi! My droid is in stock version, not rooted; is there a possibility to underclock and under volt without any action on the software?
Xsequence said:
Hi! My droid is in stock version, not rooted; is there a possibility to underclock and under volt without any action on the software?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, you have to be rooted to actually own and control your phone.
Rooting is the same as being "administrator" "or "admin" in Windows. It just means YOU control the device, not someone else. You can install or uninstall whatever you want, including kernel-elated software that lets you undervolt, underclock or to BLOCK ADS.
I won't own a computer without being admin and I won't own a smartphone without being admin (rooted). It's MY phone, not the manufacturer or the carrier.
I had overheating problems with Plants vs. Zombies Heroes. Within 3-5 minutes, the phone got burning hot--almost too hot to touch the screen. After I got the overheating warning the first and only time, I uninstalled the game. It actually got so hot, the glue released and the screen came up in the bottom left corner. I thought the heat swelled the battery, so I got a new battery only to find that the original wasn't swelled. I changed out the battery anyway, just in case. Who knows what that kind of heat can do to it.
I also noticed my phone running hot when I had CM13 Roms installed. Went back to stock and it only gets warm after playing games for a half hour.
I'm planning to buy a new phone, I currently have a Moto g and I really happy with it, I used a Nexus 5 but I didn't like the build quality of it and I dropped it and the screen was cracked so....
I'm planning to buy a custom made 64GB Moto X for $299 or a 16GB Nexus 5x.
Is the Moto worth the money?
I really care about the speaker, the build quality and the screen-to-body ratio.
cpvm said:
I'm planning to buy a new phone, I currently have a Moto g and I really happy with it, I used a Nexus 5 but I didn't like the build quality of it and I dropped it and the screen was cracked so....
I'm planning to buy a custom made 64GB Moto X for $299 or a 16GB Nexus 5x.
Is the Moto worth the money?
I really care about the speaker, the build quality and the screen-to-body ratio.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Personally, I would go for the Moto as the 16gb of storage on the 5x will fill up quickly. Aside from that the device runs fine to this date, has a wonderful speaker and has a good build quality in my opinion.
Kevin_Desousa said:
Personally, I would go for the Moto as the 16gb of storage on the 5x will fill up quickly. Aside from that the device runs fine to this date, has a wonderful speaker and has a good build quality in my opinion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you, I already buy a 64GB Moto X Pure Edition.
Well, the 2014 Moto X probably won't see another (major) update after Marshmallow - assuming you have the Pure Edition. Because otherwise you won't even get that (in the US at least, not sure about other countries). Plus the 5X has a better camera and much better battery life - though I do agree it's bezels are HUGE compared to the Moto X and its build quality is probably a bit worse. The Moto features are nice though.
Storage is very important though, so you probably made the right decision.
evangilner said:
Well, the 2014 Moto X probably won't see another (major) update after Marshmallow - assuming you have the Pure Edition. Because otherwise you won't even get that (in the US at least, not sure about other countries). Plus the 5X has a better camera and much better battery life - though I do agree it's bezels are HUGE compared to the Moto X and its build quality is probably a bit worse. The Moto features are nice though.
Storage is very important though, so you probably made the right decision.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All the Xs from "other countries" (the rest of the world) are getting 6.0.
I think the "much better battery life" on the 5x is only because of Marshmallow... Have you tried it on the X? I have and I'm consistently getting 4 h SOT at least.
Flipz77 said:
All the Xs from "other countries" (the rest of the world) are getting 6.0.
I think the "much better battery life" on the 5x is only because of Marshmallow... Have you tried it on the X? I have and I'm consistently getting 4 h SOT at least.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I get better battery life on my moto x pure than my nexus 5x. I'm in the 4.5-5.25 SOT range with the pure. The 5x I get 3.75-4.5 sot.
But OPs sticking points all lean towards the Moto X. Speaker is no comparison. Moto x kills it. Holding the 5x and the moto x side by side it is incredibly disappointing that the bezels are so large on the 5x. With all the reviews calling it a "compact device", it is terribly unwielding. Screen sizes are out of control. 5.2" is the upper echelon of one handed usability. The moto x bezels and form factor allow it to be used semi comfortably. However the 5x feels like such a larger phone, and using the 5.2" screen feels like trying to use a 5.5" screen compared to the moto x.
I was just going off reviews and the fact that the 5x has a larger battery. And no my Moto X hasn't gotten Marshmallow so battery life isn't too great.