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[Q] Moto X (sale) vs Nexus 5?

I was pretty well set on the Nexus 5 for price reason, unlocked for T-Mobile. But with the sale, I grabbed one of the codes for the Moto X while I try to figure out which I'd like to upgrade to. Since I could currently get the Moto X cheaper that selling point on the Nexus is gone.
If you had to choose today, at the sale prices which do you think you'd choose and why?

Damn im in the same boat and im going to T mobile too ! Im really deciding on the nexus 5 or moto x .. and with these price drops its making me lend to the motox .
I LOVE how the motox features are they just seem really cool and the design is damn nice unlike my nexus 4 was kinda blah.
But i been looking around and there doesnt seem to very much people doing Rom development at all so im broken on that .
And im not sure how long would it take for the moto x to get updated to the newest version of android in the future and if they will just drop everything when a new motox is out and it would take us longer to get updates .
Also future based who knows what new things will come out and if the nexus would get some of the features the motox has.. hmm..
.. so im pretty at a stand still with picking which one. and if i picked the nexus i would feel like i would miss those cool features :crying:
lol decisions..

4.4.2 is soon available for the X. So expect that to come soon as Motorola seem to be shipping updates quicker than any other company out.
ROM development is low because the phone is basically vanilla Android.
Doubt anyone will get the Moto X features. Though it will be replicated, it won't be done the same as in terms of battery management and core processing.
Possibly after the Moto X stops receiving updates, we may have more than a handful of devs jumping on board.
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Neogx said:
Damn im in the same boat and im going to T mobile too ! Im really deciding on the nexus 5 or moto x .. and with these price drops its making me lend to the motox .
I LOVE how the motox features are they just seem really cool and the design is damn nice unlike my nexus 4 was kinda blah.
But i been looking around and there doesnt seem to very much people doing Rom development at all so im broken on that .
And im not sure how long would it take for the moto x to get updated to the newest version of android in the future and if they will just drop everything when a new motox is out and it would take us longer to get updates .
Also future based who knows what new things will come out and if the nexus would get some of the features the motox has.. hmm..
.. so im pretty at a stand still with picking which one. and if i picked the nexus i would feel like i would miss those cool features :crying:
lol decisions..
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yeah everyone seems to love the active notifications and touchless control. I'm also not sure how much the extra cores will even matter on the Nexus 5. Most pc applications still aren't properly written to take full advantage of my 4 core computer processors.

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I was pretty well set on the Nexus 5 for price reason, unlocked for T-Mobile. But with the sale, I grabbed one of the codes for the Moto X while I try to figure out which I'd like to upgrade to. Since I could currently get the Moto X cheaper that selling point on the Nexus is gone.
If you had to choose today, at the sale prices which do you think you'd choose and why?
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I decided on the Moto X with the Nexus 5 being a close runner up. My decision was based primary on the Active Notifications, MotoMaker, and (currently) fast updates. Motorola, being owned by Google, should be getting update for some time, but I make no promises.

If you want to be able to use your device and have your battery last throughout the day, Moto X. If you want vanilla AOSP without the Moto additions (not sure why you would), buy a developer edition.

damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?

Well I was in the same boat as you. I went for the Moto X because I wanted a phone that, like the iPhone, seems to have been developed around the custom cpu. The only other phone I have ever had that I miss was the Galaxy S2 with the Exynos cpu. So from my view, building a phone around a custom cpu setup should provide better overall experience. That's what I saw when I played with the demo units. I hate seeing lag on my Galaxy S4, especially since it's it's a Snapdragon 600. Plus plain Android just seems better. Forget the fancy overlays.
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I don't even own a Moto X (Galaxy S4), but I'm going to straight up tell you to buy the Moto X. Why?
- Active Notifications (actually useful; I use an app on my Galaxy S4 that is basically a clone)
- MotoMaker/Developer Edition (one or the other, not both)
- Neither have a removable battery or expandable storage, but I know from a lot of people and reviews that the Moto X FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR outlasts the Nexus 5. Yes, the Nexus 5 has the better specs on paper, but the Moto X is far more efficient and performs much better in day to day tasks than top tier devices (Galaxy S4, Note 3, etc).
- Quick updates; the Moto X got Android 4.4 right after the Nexus 5 and before the Nexus 4.

Neogx said:
damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
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This wont' affect me one way or the other. I don't see anything really changing near term, and they've actually grown the laptop business they bought from IBM several years back, and they just bought the low end server business from IBM as well.

imma try out motox and see how it is i cant just write it off since im really curious how it works and runs. If its not for me ill just return it and just go for the nexus 5 =]

I've had both. Returned the N5 straight away. Bad feel in the had, terrible battery (with my usage pattern). Have been rocking an S4 since it came out, last few months with Google Play Edition. Recently got a Moto X and would definitely recommend it all day long over the N5. Feels so great in hand and battery is indeed excellent. It's a tradeoff in terms of screen resolution/size (doesn't make much difference, honestly) but for me I appreciate the in the hand feel.

Hikikomori-Otaku said:
Motorola, being owned by Google, should be getting update for some time, but I make no promises.
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I have the N5 & Moto X dev and for a daily driver I choose the Moto X, because of the size, shape, battery life, & the OS "tuned" to multi processors. Yes the N5 has some better specs, & for certain users it's a preference. That said, the Moto X will serve quite well for a few years, at least. So within the next 2 years the convergence of the desktop & phone will be underway & a worthy upgrade to the Moto X will be available. If your not going directly into hacking (N5 if so), then the Moto X is very good choice.

I think rooting is fun and all but most people do it to fix issues with their device. The Moto X doesn't have any (or few, negligible) issues. It's vanilla Android with useful additions. It's a clean slate.
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Product F(RED) said:
I think rooting is fun and all but most people do it to fix issues with their device. The Moto X doesn't have any (or few, negligible) issues. It's vanilla Android with useful additions. It's a clean slate.
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yeah the reason i've done it in the past is to remove bloatware and add functionality like tethering.

I think choosing between the N5 and Moto X is a very tough choice. I had the N4 and I love the freedom, MultiRom is a killer feature and it's very hard to let that go.
I chose the Moto X for its advertised features, the battery life, it's size (since I don't like big phones). I love AMOLED screen for the contrast, deep black and lack of backlight leakage, this is one of the best AMOLED screen I've seen in term of colors calibration, it's not extremely saturated like others. Also my impression is the Moto X is somewhat better built, the fact that it have nano coating to provide some water resistance is nice. I'm now also pleasantly surprised it have a great sounding speaker despite in the rear, it's the best sounding rear speaker from a phone I've heard.
I will eventually root my Moto X when I'm certain there are no issues that required use of warranty, but I love the touchless control and active display so I won't be going to custom rom without those features, unless there are some work around (I do use AutoVoice with Tasker). It's just that with other phones they don't have the optimized CPU or they lack AMOLED screen, so even with those third part alternatives I imagined they use up more battery. Despite my Nexus 4 having a quad core, for most tasks they aren't used (unless you install a custom kernel and tweak them). With the Moto X all the cores are better optimized and I'm guessing the language recognition and contextual cores help ease the work load when possible, so really it is more than a dualcore though I wouldn't call it "quadcore". In the end the benchmark score simply beat my Nexus 4 score, which had to be overclocked to match.
There are two things that disappointed me about the Moto X, lacks of qi charging and the headphone jack is CTIA format (I think), which means I need to use an adapter to use some headsets, this is true with some Sony phones, it bother the heck out of me. And also the lack of MultiRom, I really hope it will come to the Moto X one day though.
I think it's a really tough call, the Nexus 5 is a better device if you don't use the Moto X features and want to use custom roms or kernels. With the introduction of KitKat I mostly used stock on my Nexus with ART enabled, custom kernels is still something I desire though.
Neogx said:
damn and now Motorola has been bought out . Hmm Are you still going to buy the motox Quikster?
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They haven't been bought out and the deal is being finalized, the us govt could step in to prevent it. I don't think I will worry too much about it, I'm just a little skeptical if the Moto X will continue to get updates and fast. Lenovo knows what they're doing, they did okay with Thinkpad and they aren't going to waste $3 billion on a brand just to ruin it. If I had a Moto G I wouldn't be worried at all since it have tons of kernels and roms.
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The language core and contextual core are for doing operations while the phone is sleeping. For example on my Galaxy S4, an "always-listening" feature would significantly impact my battery (and a lot of apps with that option will tell you this), but not with the X's low-power cores. The Snapdragon 800 also has that low-power listening core, but not lower-end CPUs (e.g. Snapdragon 600).

N4 vs Moto G

Hello guys,
I'm on the verge of buying a new smartphone after being into Windows Phone for too long.
I have a N7 2013 tablet which I've been using to play around with different Custom Roms and Kernels but now it's time to ditch my low end Windows Phone smartphone and go for a medium range Android device to play around with.
The two options at the moment are: Moto G new or an used but mint condition Nexus 4 still under warranty (for another year atleast). The price tag is almost similar 170€ (MotoG) vs 200€ (N4).
Now I know the proc on the MotoG is newer and slightly faster but the N4 sports a bigger screen and more Ram which to be honest, is the decising factor here. However, since I haven't owned any of these two devices I'd like to know if the N4 is still a safe pick, and if there are any issues I should be aware of.
Thanks!

hey , first of all get your facts right .
N4 proc and GPU is way way faster than Moto G's proc and GPU ..
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-Pro-(APQ8064)-vs-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-400
secondly they both share IPS grade screens , but moto g has an advantage of gorilla glass 3 , ...
thirdly , n4 has one of the best developer community , way better than moto g ..
if u are confused between n4 and moto g , definitely go for the n4 .. its better in every possible aspect
but i would suggest waiting for some newer devices from google they might not be very far from launch

N4 all the way. The Moto G is inferior in every technical aspect (it's still a good phone but if you have the $$$ get something better!). The only physical advantage of the Moto G over the N4 is that the back cover is removable so you can easily swap sim cards without having to use a PIN, if that matters to you.
I have an N5 waiting for me (relative ordered in the states, bringing it when she visits) but I will definitely keep my N4 as a backup rather than sell it like I did with previous phones. The N4 is a great phone and just too good to waste.

Another good thing about Moto G is that is more comfortable at the hand that N4 will be. But overall N4 all the way, for being a AOSP device its simple to custom roms, kernels and everything
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I would try and get a used moto x instead of the nexus
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I have both, the Nexus is faster, bigger screen, better camera, better build quality and has superior development support.
It's a obvious choice for me. ☺

First of all thanks for the feedback.
I will probably go for the Nexus 4 since my budget is this low and the market here is overpriced compared to most places. Infact even the new market is.
The deal also includes a couple of cases, screen protectors and a bumper so it's the best choice.
Thanks all for the feedback.

Excellent choice, bro, you won't regret it.
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when i have a N4 i found the moto g better (Battery+Wireless Charging with mod+only 21Mbit)
and when i have a Moto g i found the N4 better(Dev,Gpu,Display,Glass+Wireless Charging,NFC,42Mbit Download)

username4this said:
First of all thanks for the feedback.
I will probably go for the Nexus 4
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Probably not a bad call. One yet unmentioned difference is Nexus 4 has NFC, moto g doesn't. I used to couldn't care less about that. But since I found out about Dimple (programmable, batteryless, custom placed NFC buttons), NFC actually matters to me. A lot of folks here dig the sleek buttonlessness of N4 and stuff like it, but I mostly got the phone because it was cheap at the time. I miss buttons a lot, especially for page turning in ebooks.
You never know when that tiny bit of extra functionality will turn out to be awesome. Enjoy your new phone :good:

Yeah, NFC tags at work and home are nice too. Once you start using it its hard to stop
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Moto G has much better battery backup than N4.

habunath said:
Moto G has much better battery backup than N4.
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^^^ This especially... Deciding between the two is actually tough, my son has the Moto G 16GB GPE edition and I have the Nexus 4 16GB.
I am similar to a previous user... I am mixed and go back and forth between which I prefer. Which is better for you depends on your usage
Moto G gives you incredible battery life (5-7 hours screen time, double the N4), it's waterproof (I can't believe no one mentioned this), Gorilla Glass 3
Nexus 4 has both a faster processor and GPU, has a larger display although I don't find it superior other than size, and has NFC and wireless charging (neither of which I use).
To be honest, although the 21Mbps vs 42Mbps thing is real, in real life it makes little difference in use, same with the processor... the N4 is faster but the G is more efficient, I have noticed little difference in performance between the two.
The Nexus 4 has a tremendous development community with more options and help than you can imagine, and although the Moto G has a decent community with most major ROMs supported, it is definitely not the Nexus 4 in that regard but if it's your thing you won't be bored either.
Honestly, no mater your choice you will get a good phone that will likely last a decent amount of time.

I remember you that the Moto G has a louder Speaker than the Nexus 4.
The moto G also support USB OTG, without any special Y cable or similiar things.
By the way I'm proud to own a Nexus 4.

I own both.
Nexus 4 is a better phone, BUT the Moto G comes damn close. Considering the low price of Moto G, I'll say it's a better bargain, even the more expensive 4G version, which adds support for LTE, which is something Nexus 4 doesn't have. But off course, it depends on the prices of the phones, in the area you live.

Hey guys!
The phone is home and it's the Nexus 4 16GB in super mint condition, with a ****load of screen protectors, bumbers and good cases, you name it.
It came with tempered glass screen protector at the front and a standard screen protector at the back.
Also, LTE isn't a big thing for me. Between Univ and my place I get alot of hotspots through Fon (https://corp.fon.com/pt/microsite/nos) so not a big deal.
Everywhere I go without Internet, I bring my mobile broadband pen and a sharing dock to get wireless.
The Moto G also arrived yesterday from Amazon and it really surprised me. The stock Android with some of Motorola subtle changes really make it a good phone hardware and software wise.
The problem here in Portugal is the used market is too damn retarded. People sell phones at prices that don't make sense. You see low end mobiles being sold at the price of gold. 200€ for a N4 is like a bargain compared to the prices asked for phones like Samsung SII which goes for 150 to 200€ here. Higher end phones never go for less than 300€ and most even locked to networks. A used N5 here would go for over 350€ eventhough the Playstore in Portugal has it at 349€. Yes, people are this retarded because all they care is how much they payed for the phone when they bought it and not the current new prices and the current options. How can you sell a crap phone at 150€ if for 170€ I can get a Moto G. Xiaomi's and other decent Quad cores from Amazon? Well...
Never the less, I'm happy with my choice.
Next step = Unlock Bootloader, Root and get some action going.
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Excelente compra, não te esqueças de aderir à comunidade Nexus Portugal no Google+.
Excellent buy.

X and Turbo

What are your thoughts on how the 2014 X compares to just announced Droid Turbo? At least spec wise for now.

mario24601 said:
What are your thoughts on how the 2014 X compares to just announced Droid Turbo? At least spec wise for now.
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Why isn't this being released worldwide?!
I would buy it over the Moto X, but I doubt it'll come to the UK, or will be into next year for sure.

It's a Verizon exclusive, likely not to be released anywhere else. Would be an awesome device if it didn't have the Samsung-esque capacitive buttons. Big deal breaker.

As verizon's been having phone GSM unlocked, anyone planning on buying it and use it on other carriers?
Biggest down side might be unable to unlock(so far none with verizon moto devices)

vince0312 said:
As verizon's been having phone GSM unlocked, anyone planning on buying it and use it on other carriers?
Biggest down side might be unable to unlock(so far none with verizon moto devices)
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And no lte, or software updates. Itd be pretty pointless to do so unfortunately.
As far as hownthey compare? I mean theres really no comparison. Better processor, screen, battery, camera. There isnt much the moto x offers over it besides design (which is subjective), button layout (also subjective), and slightly smaller size. However the biggest plus the X has is availability on any network.

The 805 is not really better than the 801. In fact, at the same frequency it performs the same. The only improvement you'll see are because 805 is clocked about 6% higher than 801.
Now speaking GPU the 805 has a much better GPU than 801...but because the droid turbo is using a 4k screen in real life the droid turbo will be less powerful than the moto x ( because GPU in 805 is more powerful but has a lot more work to do ).
So because of this I see only one improvement over the X : the battery. And for this of course the device is bigger.

If it didn't have those dumb soft keys it would be a no brainer. Why is it they think we need a 4k screen. Would have been more happy with the performance and extra battery life of 1080p

The only thing that really has me jealous is that ballistic nylon back, it looks tough as hell and I would KILL for that option for the X. Other than that, it doesn't really appeal to me. I think QHD screens are an unnecessary gimmick, and the extra horsepower the Turbo has is needed to compensate for it so I don't expect it to perform that much better than the X, if at all. Even if it does, realistically how much faster can a phone get? The X is blazing, and is easily the fastest phone I've ever owned. I prefer the physical design of the X, I think it is far more mature and elegant, and would choose the X over the Turbo on that alone.

Honestly, no one can deny that the screen is going to look better. Amoled and the particular setup moto used on the X, individual pixels are still discernable to the naked eye. Theres going to be a visual difference.
Bottom line is one phone will NEVER please everyone. You have someone saying 'id take a lower resolution screen with more battery life', then the next guy is going to say 'why only 1080p on a flagship phone in late 2014? The battery can support it!', but the next guy js going to complain about the capacitive keys and someone else wants it a little thinner with a slightly smaller battery.
Like what you have because bottom line we're not drag racing phones here. Theres no competition, at the end of the day they get the job done.

I think the slimmer, sleeker Moto X looks better than the Turbo. Just wish the X had the wireless charging. My wife wants to trade her Bamboo 2014 X for a turbo for that reason - and the bigger battery. She's a busy "soccer mom", in and out of the car all day long - and loved the wireless charging on her old DNA.

Judge584 said:
The 805 is not really better than the 801. In fact, at the same frequency it performs the same. The only improvement you'll see are because 805 is clocked about 6% higher than 801.
Now speaking GPU the 805 has a much better GPU than 801...but because the droid turbo is using a 4k screen in real life the droid turbo will be less powerful than the moto x ( because GPU in 805 is more powerful but has a lot more work to do ).
So because of this I see only one improvement over the X : the battery. And for this of course the device is bigger.
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That what The Verge "hands on" with the Droid Turbo commented! If you are on Verizon then go for it! Otherwise; I just go with the Moto X if you like it or another phone. But once you are on Verizon it is hard to get out of it because they tie you in pretty well so you have to pick the right time to do so!
The battery is huge on the Droid - 3900 size! Bigger then the Nexus 6 even.

It will not be a Verizon exclusive. With that name, yes, but in Brazil it will be launched as Moto Maxx (XT1225) and it has already been approved by our FCC equivalent, Anatel. There is a Motorola event scheduled for the 5th of November and it's most likely to announce this. The invitation has a picture with the Droid Turbo's back on it. It's a international version of the Droid Turbo, and while we can't be sure, it shouldn't be a surprise if it launches on Europe and other markets as well.
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Glad to see Turbo will be avail beyond Verizon. I still dont have my X, I wish the X had more battery and better camera, but since I havent experienced these for myself maybe the X will suit my needs. ...who knows...I guess in the states we have 30 days to return??

mario24601 said:
Glad to see Turbo will be avail beyond Verizon. I still dont have my X, I wish the X had more battery and better camera, but since I havent experienced these for myself maybe the X will suit my needs. ...who knows...I guess in the states we have 30 days to return??
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only 14 days unless you live in California for Moto X(from the day they ship too so you lose couple days from it)

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only 14 days unless you live in California for Moto X(from the day they ship too so you lose couple days from it)
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I am in Cali, guess I'll have a little more time to decide.

The gsm variant will be called the moto x play. Don't know on release yet but att should be getting it. I have the moto x pure and got my demo turbo today. Its not as bulky as I thought and the screen and performance is not noticeably better. The battery life and camera however are much better. And the ballistic nylon is pretty damn sweet. I still prefer my moto x though.

bhp090808 said:
The gsm variant will be called the moto x play. Don't know on release yet but att should be getting it. I have the moto x pure and got my demo turbo today. Its not as bulky as I thought and the screen and performance is not noticeably better. The battery life and camera however are much better. And the ballistic nylon is pretty damn sweet. I still prefer my moto x though.
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Any pictures? Why do you prefer the X?

mario24601 said:
Any pictures? Why do you prefer the X?
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The capacitive buttons are instantly going to be outdated as Android L has changed them up.
I think a lot of people like myself just hate them, and more than often find they simply add to the bulk of the phone.

The spec is cool on the turbo but it's nowhere near as sleek as the Moto X.
Nexus 6 is way too big!
I think the Moto X is a good medium between the 2 although I do sometimes wish they used a smaller body and went with a 5 inch display.

I prefer the x design

Droid Turbo vs new Moto X Style

Motorola just announced the new Moto X and G phones. The flagship, the Moto X Style, looks pretty nice. It's great to see the bigger battery, and the addition of a microSD slot. The price- $399 presumably for the 16GB version- is pretty good. However, I would have liked to see USB-C instead of micro USB, as well as Qi charging. It looks like a very nice phone, and if I was in the market for a phone today it could be a compelling option, but the specs aren't really an upgrade over a Droid Turbo.
Key Specs:
OS: Android 5.1.1
CPU: 1.8GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 hexa-core CPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor
GPU: Adreno 418
Screen: 5.7 inch, 1440p
RAM: 3GB
Storage: 16GB/32GB/64GB + microSD
Battery: 3,000mAh
Other: Turbo Charging, microUSB
Price: $399 and up

Difference in my opinion will be a supposedly even faster charging, better processor, microSD slot, bigger screen, options of customization, no bloat whatsoever, and the camera a year newer and hopefully improved. I'm very much considering this phone as my next phone.
Battery will not be as good unless the hexa-core is lighter on the battery than the quad-core. Users of the G4 have the same processor and they've had no issues with multi-tasking vs the S6.

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the specs aren't really an upgrade over a Droid Turbo.
Key Specs:
OS: Android 5.1.1
CPU: 1.8GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 808 hexa-core CPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor
GPU: Adreno 418
Screen: 5.7 inch, 1440p
RAM: 3GB
Storage: 16GB/32GB/64GB + microSD
Battery: 3,000mAh
Other: Turbo Charging, microUSB
Price: $399 and up
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Agreed.
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Difference in my opinion will be a supposedly even faster charging, better processor, microSD slot, bigger screen, options of customization, no bloat whatsoever, and the camera a year newer and hopefully improved. I'm very much considering this phone as my next phone.
Battery will not be as good unless the hexa-core is lighter on the battery than the quad-core. Users of the G4 have the same processor and they've had no issues with multi-tasking vs the S6.
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1) my Turbo/Maxx phone has no bloat. It's rooted, TWRP installed, CM12.1. I have 5.1.1.
2) with 64GB storage, I haven't had the need for microSD slot.
3) 5.7" screen is too big (reason I never got a Note) and I don't know what you mean by "faster charging". My Quark phone charges at the maximum rate allowed by the Quick Charge 2.0 technology, plus I have Qi wireless charging for convenience. This new Moto X Style will NOT charge any "faster", unless you know something I don't. Is Quick Charge 3.0 out or something?
Also WHY does the 5.5" Moto X Play have a 3650 mAh battery and the 5.7" Moto X Style have a 3000 mAh battery? Someone screwed up there. Either way, I'm keeping my 3900 mAh battery, thank you very much.

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Agreed.
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1) my Turbo/Maxx phone has no bloat. It's rooted, TWRP installed, CM12.1. I have 5.1.1.
2) with 64GB storage, I haven't had the need for microSD slot.
2) 5.7" screen is too big (reason I never got a Note) and I don't know what you mean by "faster charging". My Quark phone charges at the maximum rate allowed by the Quick Charge 2.0 technology, plus I have Qi wireless charging for convenience. This new Moto X Style will NOT charge any "faster", unless you know something I don't. Is Quick Charge 3.0 out or something?
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It claims it charges 50% faster than the Galaxy S6. And it says that in 15 minutes you can have another 10 hours of battery as the Turbo says it gains 8 hours of battery in 15 minutes. Just relay what Iv'e read and interpreted as them trying to say it's faster.
I've also looked into the dimensions and new Moto X doesn't seem to be mush wider than the Turbo. It actually seems very similar to the G4 in it's dimensions and I've held it and really liked it.
I would probably not be looking into another phone, if the Turbo had the ability to have TWRP, but mine does not, because It's locked down.

janitorjohnson said:
It claims it charges 50% faster than the Galaxy S6. And it says that in 15 minutes you can have another 10 hours of battery as the Turbo says it gains 8 hours of battery in 15 minutes. Just relay what Iv'e read and interpreted as them trying to say it's faster.
I've also looked into the dimensions and new Moto X doesn't seem to be mush wider than the Turbo. It actually seems very similar to the G4 in it's dimensions and I've held it and really liked it.
I would probably not be looking into another phone, if the Turbo had the ability to have TWRP, but mine does not, because It's locked down.
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OK. Maybe they found a way to cram more electricity in faster. I thought the Quick Charge 2.0 technology was pretty much the same all over.
If the Quark phone had a rear camera OIS (it really should have for the money paid) and stereo speakers (like the Nexus 6), it really would be the perfect phone. Had everything else!
Speaking of the LG G4... I won an AT&T LG G4 in a pre-release online contest back in June. Supposedly will be delivered sometime in August. I'm immediately selling it on eBay -- after installing a Qi wireless sticker inside the back cover to make it even more valuable. (the circuitry is there, just needs the sticker instead of the "folio" case.)
The 2015 LG G4 is a fantastic phone. I have nothing against it. Even the 2014 LG G3 was top on my list to replace my 2013 gen 5 (LG) Nexus 5, until I found the Moto Maxx XT1225. LG knows how to shave bezels, and they know how to make good phones.
But my XT1225 still meets my needs. It will probably be the first phone I've kept for two full years. I just switched my wife over to my 2nd one, and I'll be selling her Nexus 5 on eBay like I did mine.

ChazzMatt said:
Agreed.
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1) my Turbo/Maxx phone has no bloat. It's rooted, TWRP installed, CM12.1. I have 5.1.1.
2) with 64GB storage, I haven't had the need for microSD slot.
2) 5.7" screen is too big (reason I never got a Note) and I don't know what you mean by "faster charging". My Quark phone charges at the maximum rate allowed by the Quick Charge 2.0 technology, plus I have Qi wireless charging for convenience. This new Moto X Style will NOT charge any "faster", unless you know something I don't. Is Quick Charge 3.0 out or something?
Also WHY does the 5.5" Moto X Play have a 3650 mAh battery and the 5.7" Moto X Style have a 3000 mAh battery? Someone screwed up there. Either way, I'm keeping my 3900 mAh battery, thank you very much.
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I will only consider it if the camera has IOS, the only negative point I see on the Turbo right now. Besides this, is the perfect phone.
And yes, I agree that someone screwed up the Moto X Style with that battery.
Off topic: do you recommend CM as a daily?, or still buggy in some parts?.

Funny. I actually had a G3 with T-Mobile before I had to jump to Verizon because of signal weakness after we moved to Idaho. Before the G3 I had the Nexus 5 as well.
It's really a tall order to get 2 years out of a phone.

Is anyone else disappointed with Style having LCD screen vs Turbo and all other previous high-end phones having OLED? Bad black levels...

itanas said:
Is anyone else disappointed with Style having LCD screen vs Turbo and all other previous high-end phones having OLED? Bad black levels...
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Well this is the successor to the 2014 Moto X -- NOT the successor to the 2014 Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx).
In my opinion, the 2014 Moto X was weak for a "flagship" phone. The LG G3 beat it handily. (Just like the 2013 LG G2 beat the 2013 Moto X. There was a very good reason Google chose the LG G2 as the Nexus 5 template and not anything Motorola made. And Google even owned Motorola at the time.) Whereas the 2014 Moto Quark phone was more what the 2014 Moto X should have been -- to be a true "top tier" phone.
Comparing the 2015 Moto X Style to our 2014 Quark phone is like comparing the 2014 (top of the line) Toyota Camry to the 2015 (lower class) Toyota Corolla, or comparing the 2014 (top of the line) Honda Accord to the 2015 (lower class) Honda Civic. Wait until the 2015 Quark successor model arrives that is in the same class as our phones!
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I've also looked into the dimensions and new Moto X doesn't seem to be mush wider than the Turbo. It actually seems very similar to the G4 in it's dimensions and I've held it and really liked it.
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FYI, specs comparison of all 3 phones side by side:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...orola-Moto-X-Style/phones/8956,9104,9553?ft=2
Screenshot of part here. Go to link to see full comparison.
The LG G4 and Moto X Style both have the same CPU, GPU, RAM, and 3000 mAh battery. The LG G4 has rear camera OIS. The Moto X Style does NOT.
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Off topic: do you recommend CM as a daily?, or still buggy in some parts?.
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Since flashing to CM12.1 from the stock rooted India 5.0.2, I've had no issues. It's snappy, very responsive.
5.0.2 lagged for me 3 or 4 times a day. I would hit a button and nothing would happen for a few seconds -- like there was a conflict in a background process. Now I was also running xposed/Gravity Box (for Lollipop) -- so maybe something didn't play nice. But I had to run Gravity Box on 5.0.2 to get the custom features I wanted... With CM12.1, just about everything is there I need. I'm running it by itself.
Running CM12.1, Nova launcher, and in Developer Options I have Windows Animation scale set to .5x, Transition set to 1x, and Animator duration scale set to .5x. Very fast! :good:
IMPORTANT! Another reason you should use CM12.1 is due to this:
"Stagefright" security vulnerabitily. Been patched in CM12.1 since mid-July. NOT patched yet on stock 5.0.2 on our phones...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62076632&postcount=572

It's too big. I will not even consider it. I already have a nexus 6 laying around that I won't use because it is too big.
I MAY consider the Moto X Play if it comes available. But more likely than not I'll wait and see what the next droid maxx looks like.

JasonJoel said:
It's too big. I will not even consider it. I already have a nexus 6 laying around that I won't use because it is too big.
I MAY consider the Moto X Play if it comes available. But more likely than not I'll wait and see what the next droid maxx looks like.
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If you look its more tall than wide, it's almost as wide as the turbo just slightly wider, but about half an inch taller.

I thought the video GPU was faster on the SD805 vs the SD808 - I don't see any of the new Moto X variations being any kind of "upgrade" compared to a Moto Maxx other then perhaps with respect to the camera. I also don't want any phone with the name "style". I am pretty sure 2015 is the year I don't need a new phone, the Moto Maxx is just that good.

motorola screw up because of this:
Is not AMOLED anymore, how its gonna affect moto display and battery?
its snapdragon 808, not a big leap since droid turbo 805
same 21mpx camera but with better colors
3000 mah battery for a 5.7'' device, our moto maxx / turbo got 3900 and barely can make it one day and half without disabling something
no USB type C
No fingerprint sensor
5.7'' too big, same mistake as google nexus 6 (tough moto x style doesnt look much bigger)
3Gb of ram instead of 4
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
but they improved the price...
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.

Jaocagomez said:
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
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Agree with everything you say about the 2015 Moto X Style. It's underwhelming.
However, it's not meant to be a successor to our Quark phone but a successor to the somewhat weak 2014 Moto X. Curious to see if there will be a 2015 Quark (or whatever the code name they choose).
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As for the OnePlus Two... I find it VERY strange they put in so many top tier specs, but left out Quick Charge 2.0, Qi wireless charging, and NFC. Would have cost maybe $50 more to include all that? And total cost of the phone would still be less than $449 or even $439. People would still pay that, believe me! THAT would be a killer phone.
It's like Motorola's inexpiable decision to leave out rear camera OIS on our phones last year -- and stereo speakers, even though they put it in the Nexus 6 (99.5% same specs). So, we KNOW they know how to do it! And putting those hardware specs in really nails home it's a "premium" phone.
Just baffling on the OnePlus Two when they got just about everything else right. I'm not even going to mention the 1080p instead of 1440p, because that decision can be justified by longer battery, even though I prefer 1440p. I can understand the rationale. But including rear camera OIS with laser focus shows they were looking for "KILLER" spec, while leaving out Quick Charge 2.0, Qi, and NFC shows some kind of spec blindness.
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One more note about the Moto X Style. It's launching with 5.1.1 while our "premium" Quark phones do not yet have that from Motorola. Luckily, I am no longer dependent on Motorola for OS updates. I have 5.1.1, courtesy CM12.1...

Jaocagomez said:
motorola screw up because of this:
Is not AMOLED anymore, how its gonna affect moto display and battery?
its snapdragon 808, not a big leap since droid turbo 805
same 21mpx camera but with better colors
3000 mah battery for a 5.7'' device, our moto maxx / turbo got 3900 and barely can make it one day and half without disabling something
no USB type C
No fingerprint sensor
5.7'' too big, same mistake as google nexus 6 (tough moto x style doesnt look much bigger)
3Gb of ram instead of 4
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
but they improved the price...
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
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I was wondering about the camera, if it would be the same or a different one, but if it is the same, then I hope we can get the update via software update, maybe we can compensate the lack of OIS.
:fingers-crossed:
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Jaocagomez said:
motorola screw up because of this:
Is not AMOLED anymore, how its gonna affect moto display and battery?
its snapdragon 808, not a big leap since droid turbo 805
same 21mpx camera but with better colors
3000 mah battery for a 5.7'' device, our moto maxx / turbo got 3900 and barely can make it one day and half without disabling something
no USB type C
No fingerprint sensor
5.7'' too big, same mistake as google nexus 6 (tough moto x style doesnt look much bigger)
3Gb of ram instead of 4
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
but they improved the price...
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
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I was reading regarding the camera sensor and it seems that the Moto Maxx is using the IMX220 and the Moto X Style will be using the IMX230; even they are the same MP, the technology and the quality are different. Still a shame the lack of OIS.
:good:

I'm more interested in seeing the Verizon moto x play phone.... Maxx ii.
Hopefully that is a little more interesting than the Style is.
Will probably be end of the year though.

Jaocagomez said:
motorola screw up because of this:
Is not AMOLED anymore, how its gonna affect moto display and battery?
its snapdragon 808, not a big leap since droid turbo 805
same 21mpx camera but with better colors
3000 mah battery for a 5.7'' device, our moto maxx / turbo got 3900 and barely can make it one day and half without disabling something
no USB type C
No fingerprint sensor
5.7'' too big, same mistake as google nexus 6 (tough moto x style doesnt look much bigger)
3Gb of ram instead of 4
imo thats not 2015-2016 flagship, it has end of 2014 specs, and specs wise its a bigger droid turbo with less battery.
but they improved the price...
so, im getting a oneplus two.
gg motorola.
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Am I missing something? The Style has almost the same specs as the Lg G4 and It's a 2015 flagship phone! Why would the Style be any different?
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I kind of agree. If the Style sounds good, you can buy it today - it is called the G4.

JasonJoel said:
I kind of agree. If the Style sounds good, you can buy it today - it is called the G4.
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G4 looks great and all but, for me, the desire to stay on Motorola is really "notifications on approach" feature and stock android. But I am battery whore so Style is not gonna work. I can't go back to that kind of battery life.
I tried to get rid of this ugly-ass Droid Turbo for months. Even bought an N6 and sold it. Locked bootloader , slow updates et al....this phone is still a beast. I really want some Turbo 2 rumors.

i see no reason for myself to upgrade to Moto X Style from Moto Maxx.
it is not a better phone and it have LCD screen which i am not fond of.
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Should I stay or Should I go?

So. I am going on 3 years with the Turbo. I love this phone. Everything about it (Wish we had a custom N rom with VoLTE but that is it). I have a 64 and a 32gb back up (currently running 32 as 64 being stupid) and only one good screen between the two.
My wife has the Pixel XL which I do like, but the three things that keep me tied to this phone are: Hardware Home Keys, the IR sensors is a HUGE must after having this phone, and the Chop/twist which i'm sure there is an app for on other phones and she keeps telling me the phone isn't going to last forever XD
I just see the forums here dwindle down to almost nothing the past few months so makes me wonder how many people have moved on. I honestly don't care for the the new Moto phones. Too light, don't like the look or feel, its just meh. The attachments seem cool but don't need them. With the Pixel 2 out now and that will drive the Pixel 1 price down it makes me wonder if I should get one (Through google of course because i wanted my unlocked BL and Root) but I just can't seem to give this phone up! Both of these guys are having issues and i'm determined to fix them this weekened. Wouldn't mind buying another screen or even another phone if i had the 100 bucks. I'd rather buy a few backups than a new phone.
I just wanted to see what everyone's opinion is. Do you still have a Turbo. If you don't what did you move to and if you do how is working for you and do you plan on getting rid upgrading soon? Because honestly this phone is still powerful for what I do.

The Quark was cutting edge back end of 2014 and until this year, and I seriously mean until this year (2017) there wasn't anything released that really surpassed it. Sure there were phones with iteratively faster CPUs each year -- but until this year with Snapdragon 835 and phones coming with standard 4GB RAM (and some 6GB RAM), the 2014 Quark 3GB RAM still ruled even if it had the older Snapdragon 805. Plus all the hardware specs it has -- 1440p AMOLED, Qi wireless charging, 3900 mAh battery, 64GB internal memory (on my XT1225), 21MP camera (even though it has no rear camera OIS) kept it competitive with newcomers the past couple of years.
But the 2017 Snapdragon 835 is really a "next gen" CPU chipset however, not only with speed but with the 1 gigabit LTE speed modem.
In 2015, I won an AT&T LG G4 in a contest but sold it on eBay to buy a 3rd Quark for backup purposes. The 1440p LG G4 had a faster Snapdragon 808 CPU (and I added a Qi wireless back cover), but overall just didn't have all the features of the Quark. If the Quark didn't exist, that LG G4 would have been my favorite phone -- but I still would have sold that one to get a bootloader unlocked variant.
There's a thread discussing all this over in the other Quark forum -- 2017 phones that we were looking forward to as possible replacements. We were going by leaks and rumors, and anticipated FANTASTIC phones! As the year went on, the phones actually released and were mostly disappointing (Z2 Force with no headset jack, OnePlus 5 with still mid-tier specs, Nokia with locked down bootloader) and the thread updated, it's basically come down to the LG V30 for me. For @TheSt33v, he's leaning toward the Pixel XL 2 (in spite of no headset jack). Many others participated too, of course. The thread lists all our criteria and why we are deciding on these phones.
You know:
1440p AMOLED
Qi wireless charging
headset jack
easily unlocked bootloader
at least 64GB internal memory
at least 4GB RAM, preferably 6GB
etc.
NEW Phones to replace 2014 Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx)?
So, probably going to buy the LG V30 in about 3 months -- AFTER the U.S. carrier unlocked version is released (mid-November) AND it gets added to the LG bootloader unlock list (probaby end of December). I'm not going to buy a phone I can't root on Day 1. I've already sold my 3rd still-new-in box Moto XT1225 on Swappa a couple of weeks ago. It was for emergency backup purposes, but now clearing the decks. I've already bought some LG V30 cases in anticipation.
My wife will still keep her Moto XT1225 as she still loves it, and still runs good. So, I'll still be in the Quark forums besides the V30.
The only reason I wouldn't buy the LG V30 is if the rumored ZTE Axon 9 (the successor to the 2016 ZTE Axon 7) just really nails all my wants and needs. Like if it's the LG V30 + stereo speakers. Supposedly will be announced in October, and the ZTE Axon 7 has been out of stock on the ZTE USA website for a few weeks now.

same here with both of you.
my next phone needs to have the quarks best features (Qi wireless charging, sensors for wave to wake, 3900 mAh battery) plus unlockable or at least rootable from day 1, and 3.5mm headphone jack (although this will not be the dealbreaker, but everything else prior is).
I'm willing to bet that we'll see Oreo (custom) on the quark before we see a device that is at least equivalent in specs.
but as of now, I'm content with CF MM ROM + xposed + GB + Oreo Launcher.

jco23 said:
same here with both of you.
my next phone needs to have the quarks best features (Qi wireless charging, sensors for wave to wake, 3900 mAh battery) plus unlockable or at least rootable from day 1, and 3.5mm headphone jack (although this will not be the dealbreaker, but everything else prior is).
I'm willing to bet that we'll see Oreo (custom) on the quark before we see a device that is at least equivalent in specs.
but as of now, I'm content with CF MM ROM + xposed + GB + Oreo Launcher.
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Battery was a big deal for me too, and the Pixel XL 2's battery doesn't quite make it (3520 mAh), but it's pretty close. I'm okay with it because it quick charges. I'm also a fan of wave to wake, which is why I'm looking forward to the Pixel XL 2's always-on display. I won't even need to wave anymore!
I'm glad you brought up Oreo roms, because this is the number one reason I went Pixel. Our devs do their best with what they have, but imagine a world where you could get AOSP roms on day 1 of official release that are made by professional developers that have access to 100% of the source code, including the proprietary stuff. This feature is a Pixel exclusive. Imagine being able to get monthly security updates on a reliable basis. And even when it runs out, even when it's not officially supported anymore, Google devices have been, and likely always will be, the devices that get the most support from the community.
That Oreo rom you're waiting for? I put it on my Nexus 4 weeks ago. That's right, Nexus 4. A phone released in 2012 gets upgraded to the latest Android version in 2017. And what hoops did I have to jump through to get unofficial roms running on my phone? fastboot oem unlock. That's it. That's why I'm willing to make a few hardware compromises for a Google phone. And in my opinion, there really aren't that many compromises that I need to make.

TheSt33v said:
Battery was a big deal for me too, and the Pixel XL 2's battery doesn't quite make it (3520 mAh), but it's pretty close. I'm okay with it because it quick charges. I'm also a fan of wave to wake, which is why I'm looking forward to the Pixel XL 2's always-on display. I won't even need to wave anymore!
I'm glad you brought up Oreo roms, because this is the number one reason I went Pixel. Our devs do their best with what they have, but imagine a world where you could get AOSP roms on day 1 of official release that are made by professional developers that have access to 100% of the source code, including the proprietary stuff. This feature is a Pixel exclusive. Imagine being able to get monthly security updates on a reliable basis. And even when it runs out, even when it's not officially supported anymore, Google devices have been, and likely always will be, the devices that get the most support from the community.
That Oreo rom you're waiting for? I put it on my Nexus 4 weeks ago. That's right, Nexus 4. A phone released in 2012 gets upgraded to the latest Android version in 2017. And what hoops did I have to jump through to get unofficial roms running on my phone? fastboot oem unlock. That's it. That's why I'm willing to make a few hardware compromises for a Google phone. And in my opinion, there really aren't that many compromises that I need to make.
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all valid points and understood.
but at the end of the day, it just comes down to personal taste - and in the absence of a perfect scenario, we all have to make compromises.
the XL is too big for me. in fact, the quark is almost too big as it is.
plus, but I don't want to sacrifice hardware. as of now, the quark is still the best option for me. even if the battery dies, I may end up getting a new battery rather than getting a new device...

jco23 said:
all valid points and understood.
but at the end of the day, it just comes down to personal taste - and in the absence of a perfect scenario, we all have to make compromises.
the XL is too big for me. in fact, the quark is almost too big as it is.
plus, but I don't want to sacrifice hardware. as of now, the quark is still the best option for me. even if the battery dies, I may end up getting a new battery rather than getting a new device...
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Yes, the Pixel XL 2 is a much bigger phone than the LG V30.
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with Quark for size comparison:
But if you want to read through the specs differences, here you go:
SPECS: QUARK vs LG V30 vs PIXEL 2 XL
This year especially brought a lot of changes. One year to the next, not so much. But cumulatively, 3 years, it adds up.
For instance, cameras....
Aperture size (smaller is better)
Quark: F2.0
LG V30: F1.6
Pixel 2 XL: F1.8
Hardware Features
Quark: Autofocus
LG V30: Dual-camera (13-megapixel, 120-degree viewing angle, F1.9 aperture), Optical image stabilization, Autofocus (Laser, Phase detection)
Pixel 2 XL: Optical image stabilization, Autofocus (Laser, Phase detection)
Motorola should have included rear camera OIS on our Quarks like they did the Motorola Nexus 6. That remains a sore point with me. I had it on my 2013 LG Nexus 5, and it was on the 2014 Moto Nexus 6 -- so it's not like Motorola didn't know how to do it. (Motorola was owned by Google at the time of design of both the Quark and the Moto Nexus 6.) By late 2014, rear camera OIS was a standard feature of premium phones and the Quark was a premium phone.
And while dual cameras is not necessary, it's nice to be able to choose between wide angle lens or normal for certain shots.

Torn Between LG V30 and Google Pixel 2 XL? Me Too…
LG V30 or Google Pixel 2 XL? LG V30 or Google Pixel 2 XL? LG V30 or Google Pixel 2 XL? I just CANNOT decide.
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I've already made up my mind, but interesting article.

TheSt33v said:
Battery was a big deal for me too, and the Pixel XL 2's battery doesn't quite make it (3520 mAh), but it's pretty close. I'm okay with it because it quick charges. I'm also a fan of wave to wake, which is why I'm looking forward to the Pixel XL 2's always-on display. I won't even need to wave anymore!
I'm glad you brought up Oreo roms, because this is the number one reason I went Pixel. Our devs do their best with what they have, but imagine a world where you could get AOSP roms on day 1 of official release that are made by professional developers that have access to 100% of the source code, including the proprietary stuff. This feature is a Pixel exclusive. Imagine being able to get monthly security updates on a reliable basis. And even when it runs out, even when it's not officially supported anymore, Google devices have been, and likely always will be, the devices that get the most support from the community.
That Oreo rom you're waiting for? I put it on my Nexus 4 weeks ago. That's right, Nexus 4. A phone released in 2012 gets upgraded to the latest Android version in 2017. And what hoops did I have to jump through to get unofficial roms running on my phone? fastboot oem unlock. That's it. That's why I'm willing to make a few hardware compromises for a Google phone. And in my opinion, there really aren't that many compromises that I need to make.
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just read/watch that video about the Augmented Reality - looked very cool!
but again, the XL is too large, and the regular's battery is only 2700 mAh, with still no Qi. I may be sold on the wireless headphones, as both times at the gym this weekend, the cord did bother me.... but I don't have to get a new phone to solve that....

There's finally some topics not involving bootloader and rooting.
I agree that the droid turbo is still very competitive in terms of hardware spec, although it is not very promising to see many new firmware any more. I think it is not so much that droid turbo has a high-end spec, but is due to the fact that the android ecosystem has somehow reached a peak, that products only compete on CPU speed, camera and screen pixels, like the PCs some ten years ago. Products are very similar at its core, some are better in CPU, while some are better in camera or battery, but none of them can give a clear win on all aspect or really inspire users with new usage. I therefore don't see any of the recent products that is outstanding and can catch my attention.
While I am fully satisfy with the droid turbo, its battery starts worrying me. Its drop in performance becomes significant, and since I live in Hong Kong which the droid is not officially sold or supported, I don't even have a way to replace the battery. When I bought the device, I planned to use it for three years before I consider upgrading, which should be July 2018, but I am not very optimistic now I can wait that long. Its even sadder as it was due to battery rather than the device itself.
Anyway, it's nice to see the forum still have some firm supporters that I can count on when I have problem. I am not leaving this device and forum any time soon, but it's hard to tell.

Liking my Turbo's performance as well. The newer phones are just bigger and flashier. Already replaced the battery, and when it dies, and I can't find a reasonable replacement, I'll be dragged, kicking and screaming, to get a new phone. Hopefully, sizes will have stabilized...or even shrunk slightly.
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Einsteindks said:
Liking my Turbo's performance as well. The newer phones are just bigger and flashier. Already replaced the battery, and when it dies, and I can't find a reasonable replacement, I'll be dragged, kicking and screaming, to get a new phone. Hopefully, sizes will have stabilized...or even shrunk slightly.
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Is that what she said?
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