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My gear is supposed to be delivered today. I downloaded everything i need to root and customize it. I was wondering if there was anyway to use an app lie juice defender to improve battery life. If so, which app is preferred?
Turn off the wrist watch gesture and your fine. A normal use for me drains about 15-20% / 24h..
That's right ! Just turning off the wrist gesture to wake the gear the battery is consuming between 1 5 / 20 % a day / . Merry Christmas.
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Thanks for the info. I had one other question but I didn't want to start another thread. Does NFC need to be enable on the note 3 in order to pair with the gear?
Yea at the time of setting up ur gear bt after that u just need bluetooth to usd gear
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Does that mean you have use the button every time you want to see the time?
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Does that mean you have use the button every time you want to see the time?
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Yes. I have the motion activated... the trick is to turn the screen brightness all the way down. I get about 30% / 24hrs with the motion activated and the screen brightness down.
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Yes. I have the motion activated... the trick is to turn the screen brightness all the way down. I get about 30% / 24hrs with the motion activated and the screen brightness down.
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Thanks for the tip. I had motion deactivated to conserve battery but didn't like having to press the button each time to wake up the watch. 30% a day is not bad at all. I would even take 50%. Anything is better than the 24 hour time I've been seeing posted by reviewers. That worried me a bit. The good thing too is it charges fairly fast. So that 30% drain will be quick to recover.
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in fact, I have 100% a day...but I'm using the iPhone, so I have to keep the bluetooth tethering on all the time.
Thanks for the tips and info. Looking forward to getting it
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in fact, I have 100% a day...but I'm using the iPhone, so I have to keep the bluetooth tethering on all the time.
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people still use iPhones?
My battery life with updated US firmware Null_16 and the Freefalling theme. This is 90% standby time I don't have much time to mess with it at work!
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Do you find that battery life on your connected phone suffers? I know keeping the BT radio on will have an impact, but I noticed I had to change some settings in JuiceDefender to allow the data connection to remain active so that S-Voice will work on the Gear. This, of course, means my phone's radio (data or wifi) is always on, when before I used to let JD turn it off while sleeping.
Haven't had the Gear long enough to tell whether or not this will have a serious impact but wondering if there are any tips? I tried finding a setting in JuiceDefender to only turn the radio on when the S-Voice is activated. Unfortunately, that doesn't work.
please help me.
after null_16 my battery life is short.
after 6 hour (only in watch mode without notify or other) my gear shut down.
could you give some tips for extend the battery life ?
thanks
If I turn off the motion wake feature my Gear will go three to four days easy but if I use motion it won't last longer than 12-14 hours. This is with moderate usage. I get probably a total of 30-40 emails and texts and other notifications a day and maybe 10 phone calls. (Most calls not answered on gear) maybe 3 a day. I would love to be able to use the watch without pushing the button. Even a tap on the screen to wake would be acceptable to me. The pebble uses a shake motion to wake which also is better than the Gear motion. I drive for a living and every turn of the steering wheel activates the screen. (Although battery life is not improved on days off.) if I side load apps will my battery life be severely shortened? And to the person who asked about the Bluetooth running all the time, it doesn't impact the battery life of my phone hardly at all.
Just to say I've never used the Gear with a Samsung device. I also updated it immediately to Tizen so have no idea what battery life would have been like on Android.
I'm using a Moto G LTE and the gear Manager and Stub apk. It's not rooted or modded in any way. It works fantastically but I'm finding that the battery doesn't even last a day. I have the Gear set up so it only lights up when I press the standby button so aside from incompatibilities or some problem with the flash I've no idea what the problem is. Just wanted to know if I should EXPECT poor battery life with a non-Samsung phone paired to the watch or if I should investigate re-flashing or going back to Android. The Gear is a lovely device but is a bit useless if I can't make it through the day. I'm already down to 91% and I only took it off charge two hours ago.
Does anyone have any advice? If I can expect the battery to be rubbish I might just order an Android Wear watch; though I actually prefer the extra functionality of the Gear.
Thanks in advance.
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Just to say I've never used the Gear with a Samsung device. I also updated it immediately to Tizen so have no idea what battery life would have been like on Android.
I'm using a Moto G LTE and the gear Manager and Stub apk. It's not rooted or modded in any way. It works fantastically but I'm finding that the battery doesn't even last a day. I have the Gear set up so it only lights up when I press the standby button so aside from incompatibilities or some problem with the flash I've no idea what the problem is. Just wanted to know if I should EXPECT poor battery life with a non-Samsung phone paired to the watch or if I should investigate re-flashing or going back to Android. The Gear is a lovely device but is a bit useless if I can't make it through the day. I'm already down to 91% and I only took it off charge two hours ago.
Does anyone have any advice? If I can expect the battery to be rubbish I might just order an Android Wear watch; though I actually prefer the extra functionality of the Gear.
Thanks in advance.
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Do you have Bluetooth tethering enabled and so you use Bluetooth often?
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Do you have Bluetooth tethering enabled and so you use Bluetooth often?
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How do you mean? The only thing I use Bluetooth for is the watch, other than the odd occasion at home when I connect a Bluetooth speaker.
The only notifications I have it set to send to the device are Robird and Hangouts. Nothing else is set to notify me. Not even Gmail.
It's not tethered to the internet via my phone if that's what you mean. Not even sure that's possible on Tizen. It just is set to send notifications from two ticked third party apps and for phone calls. Brightness is set to 3 and auto wake with hand movement is switched off. Battery now down to 82% with basically no use whatsoever other than being connected.
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How do you mean? The only thing I use Bluetooth for is the watch, other than the odd occasion at home when I connect a Bluetooth speaker.
The only notifications I have it set to send to the device are Robird and Hangouts. Nothing else is set to notify me. Not even Gmail.
It's not tethered to the internet via my phone if that's what you mean. Not even sure that's possible on Tizen. It just is set to send notifications from two ticked third party apps and for phone calls. Brightness is set to 3 and auto wake with hand movement is switched off. Battery now down to 82% with basically no use whatsoever other than being connected.
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Yes, I was talking about Bluetooth tethering to the internet which can really affect battery. On Android (not Tizen), I would expect battery usage to be about 2% per hour with very light usage.
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Yes, I was talking about Bluetooth tethering to the internet which can really affect battery. On Android (not Tizen), I would expect battery usage to be about 2% per hour with very light usage.
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OK, I did a hard reset via the recovery menu on the Gear and it seems to have improved things. Currently on 96% after over 4 hours. Still only have two apps set to give notifications - SMS and WhatsApp - and only when phone screen is off. Also still have auto screen activate switched off. Not really sure what sort of battery life to expect but this is better at least!
This happens even in standby mode. I have the LTE VERSION.
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I noticed going through permissions and turning off sensors for shealth and anything else you don't use and location seems to help a lot. I think i actually turned off all sensors and make sure gps is turned off
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I noticed going through permissions and turning off sensors for shealth and anything else you don't use and location seems to help a lot. I think i actually turned off all sensors and make sure gps is turned off
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How did you do this? When using as Bluetooth only the watch lasts me almost 3 days without charging it
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So do you completely disable LTE? I leave mine on auto and see about 2 days of normal to light use. I do use AOD and do business stuff which is the whole point of having it for me, need to make sure i don't miss ever coming important load information. I hardly use LTE on it but occasionally walk away from my phone like after fueling and that's about it. So go into settings and i believe apps, it will tell you in the description permissions, and look at every app and really turn everything off that uses sensors but the big one I've seen is shealth. Turning everything off on this one seems to knock a 10% battery use to 1% leaving my highest as watch face for something i can't remember. Then check location and make sure its only wifi and cell. No reason for the watch to even have gps by itself, it just sucks battery. This has always been the big trick with smart watches through the years
I use the watch for 5 days (SM-R845F) ...
-10% during 1 hour of use.
Off: WIFI, Buetooth, GPS
ON: 4G
No syncing.
I only use it as a watch!
What could be the problem? Is the clock bad?:síró:
Just got the S21 Ultra (from note 8). Stumbled upon Bixby Routines. It's great.
Always tried using Tasker but never used it much because it wasn't as easy as using Bixby Routines. Tried using similar apps as well but they never seemed to work well.
So far I've got auto-rotate for when I use video watching apps such as YouTube. Power Saving mode while I'm asleep.
Care to share some ideas?
Love Tasker but now giving a chance for Bixby Routines. So far I have set driving profile to start playing YouTube music, set audio to 100%, turn Dolby on, keep phone unlocked. Then Show AOD when charging, auto rotate on when YouTube is launched. Would like them to go crazy like tasker with some Good lock module but doubt it Had few htlm get task so I might go back to Tasker, but imo it should drain more battery compared to Bixby Routines
When i go to work, since i don't touch my phone that often, it auto changes resolution to fullHD, and turns on AOD + turns off bluetooth.
During the night turns on energy saving and airplane mode
Wireless charging between 10p - 7a will NOT fast charge so the charger fans aren't buzzing on my nightstand next to my head.
I hated everything Bixby but I see that I now have to use routines.
Good topic. How to see more useful usages posted.
I use Routines with my Android Car Stereo to Automatically start the Hotspot when it connects to my Cars bluetooth. It also turns up the volume on the phone and reads aloud text messages.
Definitely looking forward to a couple new ideas myself.
AOD & Sync on when charging, off when not charging (apps like whatsapp and outlook have their own sync which isn't affected by this)
Button on my homepage for 5G/4G
Power saving to turn on at 20% (I only turn this on if I plan to go out for the day)
Is there a way to perform an action on switching out of one app to another e.g. To close the app you switch from e.g. Chrome, so that it doesn't chew up battery in the background? Or when closing an app to put it to deep sleep?
I've set it to disable 120 Hz in apps like YouTube and tiktok and games where I wouldn't notice it anyway.
Also set network mode to 3G and disable data when connected to WiFi.
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I've set it to disable 120 Hz in apps like YouTube and tiktok and games where I wouldn't notice it anyway.
Also set network mode to 3G and disable data when connected to WiFi.
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So I think the WiFi one is sort of redundant as your mobile data swtiches off if you're on WiFi with WiFi calling.
The YouTube one is actually a great spot - at low brightness the screen stays in high refresh mode, so forcing it to switch to 60 is useful!
I created a button to force to 2G only in areas where reception is poor and i dont require mobile data (2g gives better reception).
But does anyone know where this button can be used other than as a widget on homescreen?
Set location services on when opening google maps
Play playlist from spotify when bluetooth connect to my car
Put on do not disturb when opening camera application
I love bixby routines, the only thing i keep after debloating a Samsung phone
Anandtech has a write-up on the S21U display. It appears it has the same odd behavior of forcing 120hz full time during low ambient lighting, like the Note 20. The screen therefore consumes more power in dark rooms than in a bright setting. I have an (arguably bad) habit of reading my phone in bed before I fall asleep, and before I get up. So I've set a routine to switch in/out of adaptive mode during my normal bed times, so much of my usage in darkness is in 60hz mode to save battery.
Investigating The Galaxy S21 Ultra New OLED Emitter: Huge Efficiency Improvements
www.anandtech.com
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Anandtech has a write-up on the S21U display. It appears it has the same odd behavior of forcing 120hz full time during low ambient lighting, like the Note 20. The screen therefore consumes more power in dark rooms than in a bright setting. I have an (arguably bad) habit of reading my phone in bed before I fall asleep, and before I get up. So I've set a routine to switch in/out of adaptive mode during my normal bed times, so much of my usage in darkness is in 60hz mode to save battery.
Investigating The Galaxy S21 Ultra New OLED Emitter: Huge Efficiency Improvements
www.anandtech.com
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It does this because 60hz changes the tint at low brightness. The oneplus 8pro was bad for this, you could see the display flicker and change tint when the refresh rate changed at low brightness , it was horrible.
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It does this because 60hz changes the tint at low brightness. The oneplus 8pro was bad for this, you could see the display flicker and change tint when the refresh rate changed at low brightness , it was horrible.
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I can't comment from personal experience, but from the Anandtech article:
it’s still not exactly clear at to the technical reason why Samsung is employing this limitation in the first place, as I’m not seeing any difference at all in the screen quality when tricking the phone’s ambient brightness sensor and it switching between VRR/LFD on and off.
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Regardless, switching to 60hz is a solution if you want to prioritize battery life in those conditions.
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I've set a routine to switch in/out of adaptive mode during my normal bed times, so much of my usage in darkness is in 60hz mode to save battery.
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Hmmm, I set a routine @ 10PM to switch to 60hz mode, that was supposed to end at 7AM with the actions reversed. It didn't switch to 60hz mode @ 10PM, so I manually switched it, and it didn't revert @ 7AM. I'll try two distinct routines.
EDIT: I set up a distinct routine to set to 60hz AFTER the existing "time period" routine, and the existing time period routine took effect properly this time, so the redundant distinct routine wasn't needed. Don't know why it didn't work the first night.
Brightness turned down and Power Saving mode turned on during my sleeping hours.
I always leave my phone unplugged while sleeping (charge fully before sleep).
I guess if I were to charge while sleeping, I'd plug into a smart plug, then have the plug turn off after the charge reached 100.
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Hmmm, I set a routine @ 10PM to switch to 60h
EDIT: I set up a distinct routine to set to 60hz AFTER the existing "time period" routine, and the existing time period routine took effect properly this time, so the redundant distinct routine wasn't needed. Don't know why it didn't work the first night.
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Hmmm, I set a routine @ 10PM to switch to 60hz mode, that was supposed to end at 7AM with the actions reversed. It didn't switch to 60hz mode @ 10PM, so I manually switched it, and it didn't revert @ 7AM. I'll try two distinct routines.
EDIT: I set up a distinct routine to set to 60hz AFTER the existing "time period" routine, and the existing time period routine took effect properly this time, so the redundant distinct routine wasn't needed. Don't know why it didn't work the first night.
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Yeah, a couple times my YouTube rotate didn't turn on. But on my wife's note 10 plus, so far has been flawless.
Just bumping this up since Routines is very useful. Been using this since my last phone and it made life a bit easier.
My settings are:
1. IF connected to home wifi, THEN keep phone unlocked.
2. IF charging, THEN sync is on.
3. IF connected to car bluetooth, THEN media volume is set to max and play favorite playlist on spotify.
4. IF time period (12AM-6AM), THEN power saving mode on, DND on, bluetooth off, NFC off.
5. IF camera app opened, THEN DND on.
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Just bumping this up since Routines is very useful. Been using this since my last phone and it made life a bit easier.
My settings are:
1. IF connected to home wifi, THEN keep phone unlocked.
2. IF charging, THEN sync is on.
3. IF connected to car bluetooth, THEN media volume is set to max and play favorite playlist on spotify.
4. IF time period (12AM-6AM), THEN power saving mode on, DND on, bluetooth off, NFC off.
5. IF camera app opened, THEN DND on.
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Oh, gave me a great idea of keeping phone unlocked! thanks. I'll have to set one to keep phone unlocked when hooked up to android auto or the car BT.
I mess with my kids with the Low Battery Announcement (Phone needs charging, Bruh. No Cap). Lol
If it isn't connected to my Home WiFi between the hours of 10PM and 8AM, it alerts me because this typically means that the power has gone out.
Hi everyone.
Just wanted the community's opinion on what your thoughts are about the AOD.
How many of you use it regularly? And those that do, what is your preferred setting - Always on (+/- scheduled) or Tap to Show for 10 seconds? What has been your experience with battery life and overall usability? Any tips or tricks? Any downsides?
Those who don't use AOD, could you please post your reasons, along with any experience with battery drain or screen burn in or other issues.
I'd like to use AOD (on the always on setting), but am not very sure what it costs in term of battery or screen life. The former is a non-issue for me personally but if it's going to affect screen life or quality, I may hesitate a little. I tried the tap to wake for 10 seconds thing but it seems to beat the purpose as I can just as easily go to the lockscreen with a double tap and neccessitating user-interaction negates any real benefit of an always-on feature.
My current settings are:
AOD Always on (scheduled from 7am to 10pm)
FIngerprint reader always on (so I can go directly from AOD to Homescreen without having to go through the lockscreen)
Fingerprint icon set to tap-to-show (just as a hint if i ever miss hitting the correct position when trying to unlock)
Your thoughts and suggestions are most welcome.
I only use AOD via AODNotify...that should have been an option in the poll.
I use a Tasker profile to turn AOD on (always) when a message arrives and revert back to tap to show when message is cleared.
I keep it on all the time, really helpful and doesn't seem to drain too much battery.
Btw does anyone know if it's possible to add weather info to the S21Us AOD?
One of the few things I still miss from my P4XL..
I don't use it drains a lot of battery
I use to always have it active on my 10+ but it got to be annoying. Tap on is fine.
I don't care to be informed every bloody second... that ain't no way to live.
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I only use AOD via AODNotify...that should have been an option in the poll.
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Wasn't even aware something like that existed. Thanks for the heads-up, will check it out.
Poll updated with new option.
I like to keep the setting to always on with fingerprint always enabled showing thumbprint on screen always .
What i have noticed is the aod doesnt turn off when the phone is in pocket or lying upside down.
That would save so much battery.
AOD used to turn off automatically in my s9plus when the phone was in pocket .
May be this feature is disabled due to lack of active proximity sensor
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I like to keep the setting to always on with fingerprint always enabled showing thumbprint on screen always .
What i have noticed is the aod doesnt turn off when the phone is in pocket or lying upside down.
That would save so much battery.
AOD used to turn off automatically in my s9plus when the phone was in pocket .
May be this feature is disabled due to lack of active proximity sensor
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The 10+ has a proximity sensor and AOD always remains on if set to. The face down off be nice.
Maybe it caused issues in the past. Samsung is sort of hit or miss though.
I have yet to use the fingerprint sensor, lol don't even know if it works.
Last thing I want is to get locked out of a device.
As soon as you set an access password this can happen and through no fault of your own. A hardware failure or glitch can trigger it. Had no password been set the setting wouldn't be enforced. I've gotten locked out of a PC bios like that, never again.
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I like to keep the setting to always on with fingerprint always enabled showing thumbprint on screen always .
What i have noticed is the aod doesnt turn off when the phone is in pocket or lying upside down.
That would save so much battery.
AOD used to turn off automatically in my s9plus when the phone was in pocket .
May be this feature is disabled due to lack of active proximity sensor
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Does the fingerprint icon shift around like the clock or battery percentage (it has very little room to move around though)?
I hope it does, otherwise it'll land up causing screen burn if it's in the same position with the same pattern all the time. Have you noticed this?
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Does the fingerprint icon shift around like the clock or battery percentage (it has very little room to move around though)?
I hope it does, otherwise it'll land up causing screen burn if it's in the same position with the same pattern all the time. Have you noticed this?
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Probably shifts it over a few pixels but in bright light over time it will cause uneven aging.
enigmaamit said:
Hi everyone.
Just wanted the community's opinion on what your thoughts are about the AOD.
How many of you use it regularly? And those that do, what is your preferred setting - Always on (+/- scheduled) or Tap to Show for 10 seconds? What has been your experience with battery life and overall usability? Any tips or tricks? Any downsides?
Those who don't use AOD, could you please post your reasons, along with any experience with battery drain or screen burn in or other issues.
I'd like to use AOD (on the always on setting), but am not very sure what it costs in term of battery or screen life. The former is a non-issue for me personally but if it's going to affect screen life or quality, I may hesitate a little. I tried the tap to wake for 10 seconds thing but it seems to beat the purpose as I can just as easily go to the lockscreen with a double tap and neccessitating user-interaction negates any real benefit of an always-on feature.
My current settings are:
AOD Always on (scheduled from 7am to 10pm)
FIngerprint reader always on (so I can go directly from AOD to Homescreen without having to go through the lockscreen)
Fingerprint icon set to tap-to-show (just as a hint if i ever miss hitting the correct position when trying to unlock)
Your thoughts and suggestions are most welcome.
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I set that sucker to always on all the time and at max brightness to boot. Cannot use a phone without the option.
chetly968 said:
I set that sucker to always on all the time and at max brightness to boot. Cannot use a phone without the option.
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According to your battery stats, how much drain is attributed to the AOD? Could you post a screenshot at the end of a day please?
I don't know how much drain is attributed to the AOD. As soon as I get the newest Samsung I turn it in and crank it up before I literally do anything else. I keep every setting on ALL the time (Bluetooth, wifi, nfc, etc). The battery gets me through a regular day. I'll try and post a screen shot. Today I took it off the charger 3 hours ago and I haven't stopped using the phone. I'm sitting at 85%.
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I don't know how much drain is attributed to the AOD. As soon as I get the newest Samsung I turn it in and crank it up before I literally do anything else. I keep every setting on ALL the time (Bluetooth, wifi, nfc, etc). The battery gets me through a regular day. I'll try and post a screen shot. Today I took it off the charger 3 hours ago and I haven't stopped using the phone. I'm sitting at 85%.
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You monster, you.
My smartwatch (Fit2, cheap) negates the need for AOD.
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You monster, you.
My smartwatch (Fit2, cheap) negates the need for AOD.
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I have a serious addiction to smart phones, lol. I'm on mine about 12 hours a day. Mostly playing games or surfing the net. Today off my charger for 2.5 hours and I'm at 88% lol.
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I have a serious addiction to smart phones, lol. I'm on mine about 12 hours a day. Mostly playing games or surfing the net. Today off my charger for 2.5 hours and I'm at 88% lol.
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Cycle the battery between 35-65% if you can (and then raise both those numbers slowly over time) or else you will fry your battery fast.
If you're just going to buy a new phone in 2 years, then, don't bother with what I said.