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Hi guys,
Is there any chance of seeing Android 5.0 lollipop on this device.
Sorry if this is a repost.
Thank you
Noooooope.
Can any of the developers to port the art to any of our phone? Because this time is with full features and well optimised. It would increase stability more than it is in this moment . I would to like to see that effort that it would be made for this thing to be possible. Everything is possible if you really want
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Android 5.0 Lollipop from Team Canjica probably will never see the light. In our opinion, Galaxy S Advance and in generally STE-based devices are too weak to handle well another Android major release.
The fact is that more time passes, more OS and applications become heavier and complex.
Was a pain to get a "stable" (between quotes since still has some issues like huge battery drain, that can't be fixed) Kitkat.
Another major release means heavier, more complex, CPU even with OC is too slow to handle and execute well threads, RAM memory is too little and this means lags, impossibility to run big apps and the Mali 400 single core GPU is too weak for more complex graphic effects in games that will come and especially in transitions between menus, pull down status bar etc. The last perfect major release for this device is Jelly Bean 4.3, to build any major release means that we need to research and find (with A LOT OF TESTING) how to fix bugs, means that we need to develop new OMX patches to make camera and videos working. KitKat is okay but huge battery drain and a lot of lags are signal that it's the last major release that these STE devices can handle in a non-stable way against JB 4.3 that it's almost (to not say "totally") stable. Now, stop a moment and imagine Lollipop, totally ruined user experience. Do you wanna live together with device lagging 99/100 times (1/100 without lags rightly after power on, maybe) and with charger always connected? We should be lords of our devices, not slaves. Nobody of us still uses a STE device and without is totally impossible to develop what has never been developed, if you want to keep updated I'm sure that you would change device asap, today even a 100€ device is more powerful than these. Janice will be 3 years old on April 2015, it's just the future coming...
We loved this device, development, known good guys here... Officially this device died on 4.1, Team Canjica gave you 3 major releases!!!
Never forget
@diego-ch @frapeti @Paul L @Rox do you agree with me?
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Completely !
@AntaresOne @Rox
Thats sad and brutal true.
O our device is not a tytan of performance .
But still (IF u look and test all CM builds (starting form CM 10) u will see that CM 11 is the most stable.
On jellybean roms (CM based) there are bugs that were fixed in KITKAT.
As AntaresOne told our device is anable (propably) to boot android 5.0/CM 12 . But whats the point od having phone thats compleatly out of RAM and need charger after 5 hours in deepsleep ?
But still having bootnable lolipop will be interesting (for testing).
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MikiGry said:
@AntaresOne @Rox
Thats sad and brutal true.
O our device is not a tytan of performance .
But still (IF u look and test all CM builds (starting form CM 10) u will see that CM 11 is the most stable.
On jellybean roms (CM based) there are bugs that were fixed in KITKAT.
As AntaresOne told our device is anable (propably) to boot android 5.0/CM 12 . But whats the point od having phone thats compleatly out of RAM and need charger after 5 hours in deepsleep ?
But still having bootnable lolipop will be interesting (for testing).
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What I meant is yes, KK ROMs are stable about bugs (except huge battery drain), but in the performance profile? They're very fast but just some minutes and will start to lag...
Galaxy S Advance may surely boot Lollipop, but can't handle well!
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And fix 4.3 bugs?
Will be awesome, Rox did it for codina and work so good.
I think it'd be awesome to get on stable build of cm10.1 since so many say it is fast with good battery life. Personally I haven't tried it due to the remaining bugs.
Sent from my XT1023
@[mention]AntaresOne[/mention], yep agreed.
AntaresOne said:
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Copy & paste this answer in any thread like this.
Android 5.0 Lollipop from Team Canjica probably will never see the light. In our opinion, Galaxy S Advance and in generally STE-based devices are too weak to handle well another Android major release.
The fact is that more time passes, more OS and applications become heavier and complex.
Was a pain to get a "stable" (between quotes since still has some issues like huge battery drain, that can't be fixed) Kitkat.
Another major release means heavier, more complex, CPU even with OC is too slow to handle and execute well threads, RAM memory is too little and this means lags, impossibility to run big apps and the Mali 400 single core GPU is too weak for more complex graphic effects in games that will come and especially in transitions between menus, pull down status bar etc. The last perfect major release for this device is Jelly Bean 4.3, to build any major release means that we need to research and find (with A LOT OF TESTING) how to fix bugs, means that we need to develop new OMX patches to make camera and videos working. KitKat is okay but huge battery drain and a lot of lags are signal that it's the last major release that these STE devices can handle in a non-stable way against JB 4.3 that it's almost (to not say "totally") stable. Now, stop a moment and imagine Lollipop, totally ruined user experience. Do you wanna live together with device lagging 99/100 times (1/100 without lags rightly after power on, maybe) and with charger always connected? We should be lords of our devices, not slaves. Nobody of us still uses a STE device and without is totally impossible to develop what has never been developed, if you want to keep updated I'm sure that you would change device asap, today even a 100€ device is more powerful than these. Janice will be 3 years old on April 2015, it's just the future coming...
We loved this device, development, known good guys here... Officially this device died on 4.1, Team Canjica gave you 3 major releases!!!
Never forget
@diego-ch @frapeti @Paul L @Rox do you agree with me?
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S3 Mini also STE device but slightly better in ram, New Maclaw already did with android 5.0 .
So I think SGSA will still have the chance, pls DON'T cut off the development for SGSA.
Refer Link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-android-source-project-5-0-20141106-t2930961
Why can't it be possible? when htc explorer can get it?
if low end devices like htc explorer have got it.. why can't it be possible for Samsung Galaxy S Advance? which is way better than HTC Explorer?
shrey2210 said:
if low end devices like htc explorer have got it.. why can't it be possible for Samsung Galaxy S Advance? which is way better than HTC Explorer?
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The source is on github if anyone wants to do it...
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The source is on github if anyone wants to do it...
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I can't believe finally our s advance will not receive android lollipop; i must agree, why there are some older and less performant device which receive cyanogenmode 12????i think s advance still has. Some potential,( although his age); it was (and still) my first android phone, i think it is a great phone ...it will remain forever in my mind... I just remeber when yuo develop cyanogen mode 11 android kitkat ,and i flash it, ....you did a miracle! Actually i still use it, no bug(just a little sometimes), no lags, work very fine, so let the miracle repeat!
I think the fault was of samsung tha wasn't clement with this device (samsung suck).., they release a very awfull upgrade , very very bad, a lot of bug, at the time, it lag also to reproduce video, on browser web...it was unusable, so thi was the reason why i installed cyanogen mode; so i hope, you will hear our prayers...let the miracle repeat again!!!
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if low end devices like htc explorer have got it.. why can't it be possible for Samsung Galaxy S Advance? which is way better than HTC Explorer?
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however we can get LOLLIPOP in market and store, but we hope S Advance can taste it !!!
Gentlemans, the latest cm11 from novafusion: http://novafusion.pl/downloads/
The team working on 5.0.
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Gentlemans, the latest cm11 from novafusion: http://novafusion.pl/downloads/
The team working on 5.0.
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Zombies, novafusion = fake changelogs / fake updates.
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Zombies, novafusion = fake changelogs / fake updates.
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But they are working on it
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But they are working on it
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Force said:
Zombies, novafusion = fake changelogs / fake updates.
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ZombiePopFusion_5.0.1_Stablev1_Janice for ex [emoji12]
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I wonder if someone could port dalvik over to Lollipop, as a stop gap until xposed is ported to ART
btw is xposed open source?
Im not gonna say its not possible... But its gonna be extremely difficult, and I don't think any devs are going to hop on anytime soon. Especially because it won't make Xposed work, since it's as much the SELinux restrictions as it is ART.
ya thats totally gonna be easier, porting an entire runtime to an operating system that doesnt even support it instead of porting an app.
Dalvik has been ported to other os's, lollipop is just a version bumb of android. On kitkat you could switch between the 2, i doubt that code is gone...
This is stupid
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This is stupid
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Well... That's a bit rude, but I must agree that this is something that would not be worth the effort.
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This is stupid
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Necessary? At all?
This is equivalent to saying why don't we port a 1991 Toyota Camry engine into a Ferrari just so we can get easier oil changes.
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This is equivalent to saying why don't we port a 1991 Toyota Camry engine into a Ferrari just so we can get easier oil changes.
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more like a celica. Dalvik has been ported to many other platforms and os's, so it should be relatively easy to port dalvik to lollipop. @rovo89 might not be able to make xposed compatible with art for many more months but in the mean time we could still enjoy most of lollipop but with xposed. I don't think the performance difference, if we can get the qualcomm optimized versions to run, to be significantly different.
Sorry if I offended but I'm really not sorry.
ART, SELinux enforced and device encryption on by default are what make Android L what it is. Any option that cripples any one of those things isn't what you want. I'd just keep those things in mind. If something comes along that works within those constraints (Cydia Substrate/XPosed) I'd respect the work because it would be the elegant solution.
I respect @rovo89 's stance so if he didn't say one more word about Android L I'd understand.
The best thing we users can do is leave it alone so some inspired developer can have a shower thought that is a good compromise.
I'd just think anything else would be a KitKat that looks like a Lollipop.
people really need to just let xposed for lollipop go. Seriously, it will get here when it gets here, making 1000 threads asking for "stop gaps" and time frames isnt going to make it come sooner. Either chill on kitkat for the time being, or chill on lollipop without xposed. those are your only two options. rovo even said that its likely to take months to port, if he ports it at all. Its been a week, id say check back in january
I understand why some are saying just wait or why do that its just a stop gap but Android is open source, there has to be commits that have notes as to when dalvik was removed. ART has been an option in KitKat. Android can switch between the two. Maybe even having possibly both running at the same time so new apps built just for ART continue working. If developers look through the changes to Android from KitKat to Lollipop, they could take what was removed and add it back in. Maybe it won't be that simple but Android is open source, when Windows lost its start menu, third party developers could put it back in. Others made their own variation of it that was different but there were ways of putting the Windows 7 start menu back in on Windows 8. I know the two aren't the same but everything Android is made of is available online for public use. Look right before it was taken out, take that, and put it right back in and make some changes for Android to see that. And yes Dalvik has been ported to other platforms, if Windows Phone eventually runs Android apps or its been experimented on internally, they ported Davlik too.
Considering that with the Surface for example people wanted Win32 support for Windows RT, even though they knew WinRT apps were the future, they still did it and we could run .NET apps on the desktop. Sure it was an old runtime but it was a mature runtime. Again we really don't know if xposed will make it to the ART runtime...
On Samsung phones, SELinux is enforced already long time (since 4.3, IIRC). And it was changed to permissive or even completely disabled (as i did on my device). Thus, it's not a problem at all. Encrypting the storage is not a mandatory thing as well and can be disabled as well.
Actually, i see a real demand of dalvik on Android 5.0. All these security things are not deal-breaker. Having a root and talking about security is a lame, IMHO.
The only real thing to sacrifice is the ART. Well, at least you will be able to choose between XPosed versatility and ART speed.
Actually, i'm running Android 4.4.2 without ART and don't see any special need of ART.
For those who are using current devices, it's easy to stay on 4.4 and continue to use XPosed. But for future devices with Android 5.0 out of the box, there won't be a chance to use XPosed without such dalvik port.
I think, it won't be so hard to port the dalvik to 5.0, since it's just couple of libs/binaries. At least for AOSP. With may be some more work for OEM ROMs.
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I wonder if someone could port dalvik over to Lollipop, as a stop gap until xposed is ported to ART
btw is xposed open source?
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sorry to see that instead of an exchange of info you get treated rudely by some who think they swollowed wisdom with a spoon
here is my answer:
the idea itself is IMO not stupid at all, albeit i think like others that it will probably be easier to make xposed work on LP. why ?
a) rovo89 already had a trial version on art about 10 months ago, so i do not believe that it will be impossible to port XF to ART
b) selinux can be set to permissive with an app as well as kernel side, as simple as that, and should this be necessary and the choice of some, no problem
c) i stick to KK until either XP will come to LP or most of the keyfeatures i want under all circumstances will be available through other means, partly they are already.
d) i don't know if it's open source, you will probably have to search a bit
i believe that there are 2 big question marks behind the question whether we shall get XF for LP:
1) if the dev has time and energy ( is motivated ) to go there
2) for which devices it will be available, because for some reasons you can get from his various statements it will certainly not be as cross-rom as it was before LP
"1)" was answered by rovo89 with a tendency to a no, but that can change, "2)" is not predictable but most probably the closer to vanilla android the higher the chance that it will be compatible if ever
as i said, i shall stick to kitkat for many reasons, want dark UI, want by app dpi settings like earlier PA-ROMs had and app settings is doing for me. for the rest there are apps and mods mostly so and
the only thing which i don't like compromises is UI-Appearance, wasted space, ugly colors and chaotic animations and pop-ups. so let's see, keep watching regularly and there is still hope. should you have specific needs which you now use xposed modules for, search for apps and mods with the same or similar effects. mostly one can get or make a flashable zip for mods so to flash them with nightlies like i do by now with the xposed installer and a few helpers which have to be system apps, no problem.
the fact that many things are possible to get with other means might even be an obstacle for xposed to be ported to LP, it's not so that xposed does a lot which cannot be had by other means, just that it's so easy and cross rom, cross oem etc. i hope that is a useful input for you and feel free to pm me because i will not further follow this thread, last but not least because of the general tone and attitude of some individuals.
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I understand why some are saying just wait or why do that its just a stop gap but Android is open source, there has to be commits that have notes as to when dalvik was removed. ART has been an option in KitKat. Android can switch between the two. Maybe even having possibly both running at the same time so new apps built just for ART continue working. If developers look through the changes to Android from KitKat to Lollipop, they could take what was removed and add it back in. Maybe it won't be that simple but Android is open source, when Windows lost its start menu, third party developers could put it back in. Others made their own variation of it that was different but there were ways of putting the Windows 7 start menu back in on Windows 8. I know the two aren't the same but everything Android is made of is available online for public use. Look right before it was taken out, take that, and put it right back in and make some changes for Android to see that. And yes Dalvik has been ported to other platforms, if Windows Phone eventually runs Android apps or its been experimented on internally, they ported Davlik too.
Considering that with the Surface for example people wanted Win32 support for Windows RT, even though they knew WinRT apps were the future, they still did it and we could run .NET apps on the desktop. Sure it was an old runtime but it was a mature runtime. Again we really don't know if xposed will make it to the ART runtime...
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Its not just ART that is the issue. 5.0 has many new security features that block its use. You have have to revert alot of the entire OS to work with Delvic. Just like ART caused issues with the OS when it was still being worked on.
And not completely as for Android being open source. AOSP is open source (Which Google doesnt push all the code to, You can see this with many of the apps in 5.0 The messaging app is not in AOSP as an example) but not everything android does from Google is not open source. Only the kernel is fully open under the GPL. The rest is under the apache license.
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On Samsung phones, SELinux is enforced already long time (since 4.3, IIRC). And it was changed to permissive or even completely disabled (as i did on my device). Thus, it's not a problem at all. Encrypting the storage is not a mandatory thing as well and can be disabled as well.
Actually, i see a real demand of dalvik on Android 5.0. All these security things are not deal-breaker. Having a root and talking about security is a lame, IMHO.
The only real thing to sacrifice is the ART. Well, at least you will be able to choose between XPosed versatility and ART speed.
Actually, i'm running Android 4.4.2 without ART and don't see any special need of ART.
For those who are using current devices, it's easy to stay on 4.4 and continue to use XPosed. But for future devices with Android 5.0 out of the box, there won't be a chance to use XPosed without such dalvik port.
I think, it won't be so hard to port the dalvik to 5.0, since it's just couple of libs/binaries. At least for AOSP. With may be some more work for OEM ROMs.
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if it isnt hard than why dont you do it?
you already seem to know more about dalvik than anyone posting in this thread, please save all new devices running 5.0.1 and port dalvik to 5.0.1
seriously whats so hard about people waiting for xposed to be ported if it ever gets ported, and if it doesnt, who cares, just install a custom rom, thats how it was done before xposed was even created
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if it isnt hard than why dont you do it?
you already seem to know more about dalvik than anyone posting in this thread, please save all new devices running 5.0.1 and port dalvik to 5.0.1
seriously whats so hard about people waiting for xposed to be ported if it ever gets ported, and if it doesnt, who cares, just install a custom rom, thats how it was done before xposed was even created
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None of device i use got Android 5.0. So, it's hard to port without having it yet, isn't?
Reading rovo89 posts, i'm not so optimistic about it happen at all. Actually, i'm not depend much of XPosed (and i'm happy that i didn't move all my custom ROM patches to XPosed). Only one security module i've wrote is very important and vital for me and potential deal-breaker from migrating to 5.0. Actually i can rewrite it to patches which is not so elegant solution but a real solution. When Samsung will release 5.0 (or i will buy a new device), i will check all possibilities.
Actually, i have an idea for system similar to XPosed. May be it's not so elegant as XPosed, but it's 100% compatible with 5.0.
Anyway, i'm waiting for 5.0 first.
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None of device i use got Android 5.0. So, it's hard to port without having it yet, isn't?
Reading rovo89 posts, i'm not so optimistic about it happen at all. Actually, i'm not depend much of XPosed (and i'm happy that i didn't move all my custom ROM patches to XPosed). Only one security module i've wrote is very important and vital for me and potential deal-breaker from migrating to 5.0. Actually i can rewrite it to patches which is not so elegant solution but a real solution. When Samsung will release 5.0 (or i will buy a new device), i will check all possibilities.
Actually, i have an idea for system similar to XPosed. May be it's not so elegant as XPosed, but it's 100% compatible with 5.0.
Anyway, i'm waiting for 5.0 first.
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well if xposed dies than it dies, i really think people should either way for it to be ported or just let it die, threads like these are annoying, pointless, and do absolutely nothing to further porting xposed to android L
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well if xposed dies than it dies, i really think people should either way for it to be ported or just let it die, threads like these are annoying, pointless, and do absolutely nothing to further porting xposed to android L
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Then you've misused this topic. This topic is about dalvik for Lollipop, not about porting XPosed.
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Then you've misused this topic. This topic is about dalvik for Lollipop, not about porting XPosed.
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which someone wants to do because they dont have xposed
like i said, if you want to port dalvik to lollipop than do it since you think its so easy, if you are confident in your knowledge why not get a tester with a lollipop phone or better yet buy a used nexus 4 to work on, that has lolllipop and runs about $100 used
If it's possible to get kitkat on our device with dalvik run time, please someone port it.
I hate lollipop. why? almost all the apps on the play store aren't optimized for ART/lollipop.
It's just pain to see my new nexus 6 stutters on apps that can run on my old 5S smoothly
No it is not possible. Someone can't just port Kit Kat because there are a lack of drivers and binaries for it.
Apps will just have to get to the times and update to make it more optimized for Lollipop, or get "better" or more frequently updated apps to follow with the times.
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No it is not possible. Someone can't just port Kit Kat because there are a lack of drivers and binaries for it.
Apps will just have to get to the times and update to make it more optimized for Lollipop, or get "better" or more frequently updated apps to follow with the times.
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That is actually quite a silly statement.
It actually would NOT be all that much work to build 4.4 for this hardware.
For one, all of the blobs needed can be pulled from Droid_turbo / Moto_maxx. They are basically the same hardware, and ship with 4.4.
Second, qualcomm supports the apq8084 platform on 4.4 directly. I have a liquid 8084 tablet with 4.4 on my desk right next to me right now.
Having said that... I'm not going to build 4.4, because it is pointless.
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I hate lollipop. why? almost all the apps on the play store aren't optimized for ART/lollipop.
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What exactly do you mean by "aren't optimized"??? As a developer, I have to say that this statement is completely meaningless. There is nothing special that need be done from a software developer point of view to take account for ART, as long as you aren't doing weird and unsupported hacks (which very very very few people actually do).
It's just pain to see my new nexus 6 stutters on apps that can run on my old 5S smoothly
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What do you mean by "stutters"? Is there heavy I/O happening when it is "stuttering"? Do you realize the serious impact that forced encryption has on the device's I/O and CPU performance? Do you realize that the display on N6 has nearly TWICE as many pixels as your "old" S5? That means that it is GOING to take a lot more to keep things fluid on N6 than S5. Something that will be helped when software starts to take advantage of the newer OpenGL available on 5.0. NONE of this will be improved by downgrading to 4.4. In fact, because 4.4 will NOT be taking advantage of the newer OpenGL, doing this downgrade will make certain, even after software starts to make use of it, that you WON'T be able to benefit from it.
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That is actually quite a silly statement.
It actually would NOT be all that much work to build 4.4 for this hardware.
For one, all of the blobs needed can be pulled from Droid_turbo / Moto_maxx. They are basically the same hardware, and ship with 4.4.
Second, qualcomm supports the apq8084 platform on 4.4 directly. I have a liquid 8084 tablet with 4.4 on my desk right next to me right now
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If it's not that much work then why you don't do it and prove me wrong? You'd need proprietary vendors, drivers for 4.4 and not to mention you'd need a backward port of dalvik.
Just because they share similar hardware doesn't mean you can just pull blobs from another phone with similar hardware specifications from the same manufacturer then hope that it works because development doesn't work that way
Even if it was possible no one would do it because its a step backwards and it would be a dirty hack.
i would have chimed in a while ago, but for certain reasons i didnt. normally, id say that it wont happen, since there arent any binaries for kitkat and the nexus 6. but guess what, there are! they arent anywhere where the public has access to them, but they do exist. as google had kitkat on the n6 before lollipop. and a very few people have even gotten their n6 with kitkat(when they just selling the n6). so, in the future, we might be able to see a kitkat build on our n6
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If it's not that much work then why you don't do it and prove me wrong? You'd need proprietary vendors, drivers for 4.4 and not to mention you'd need a backward port of dalvik.
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I'm not going to, because it is a waste of time and I have no interest in having a **** measuring contest with some random person on the internet.
Just because they share similar hardware doesn't mean you can just pull blobs from another phone with similar hardware specifications from the same manufacturer then hope that it works because development doesn't work that way
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That's hilarious. Especially since hardware wise, the only real difference between those phones I mentioned and Nexus 6 is the screen size. In fact, we know for a fact that those two devices very nearly WERE stamped "shamu" and sent out AS Nexus 6. Something happened between Google and Verizon that decided what size went under whose label. Also, you should see all the Sony blobs I used on my Samsung phone... also a bunch from LG.
But just to make things even more interesting, on what grounds do you claim that Android 4.4 won't run on blobs from 5.0? That same Samsung phone I referred to above running on Sony and LG blobs... is running 5.0 on such mishmash of blobs pulled out from 4.[0-4]. And perfectly happily at that. Blobs DO NOT HAVE an intrinsic "works with Android version X and nothing else" stamped on them.
Even if it was possible no one would do it because its a step backwards and it would be a dirty hack.
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THAT is essentially what I am saying. Not the "even if" (because it *IS* possible), or the dirty hack part, because though it may make you FEEL dirty to downgrade, it wouldn't actually be a hack. I'm saying that nobody WILL do it, because it is pointless and backwards.
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If it's possible to get kitkat on our device with dalvik run time, please someone port it.
I hate lollipop. why? almost all the apps on the play store aren't optimized for ART/lollipop.
It's just pain to see my new nexus 6 stutters on apps that can run on my old 5S smoothly
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This phone would have been awesome on Kitkat. I also do not like Lollipop. It burns the eyes and there are too many bugs. I don't think anyone is going to go to the trouble though.
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This phone would have been awesome on Kitkat. I also do not like Lollipop. It burns the eyes and there are too many bugs. I don't think anyone is going to go to the trouble though.
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As far as bugs go, its no different than any previous version. They patched a bunch of bugs that were there before, and added a few new ones. I wonder though, what bugs you think you've spotted? List them, and tell me why you believe that they are bugs...
Just port android 1.5 cupcake and call it a day lol
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Just port android 1.5 cupcake and call it a day lol
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haha, lol. Now that... might actually not be possible.
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haha, lol. Now that... might actually not be possible.
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Time to do a change petition from google to make official cupcake ROM lol
zephiK said:
If it's not that much work then why you don't do it and prove me wrong? You'd need proprietary vendors, drivers for 4.4 and not to mention you'd need a backward port of dalvik.
Just because they share similar hardware doesn't mean you can just pull blobs from another phone with similar hardware specifications from the same manufacturer then hope that it works because development doesn't work that way
Even if it was possible no one would do it because its a step backwards and it would be a dirty hack.
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I am gonna go ahead and just attach it to your post. There is a port being worked on as I post this, yes there are people who want kit kat on the phone and there are other reasons than running cm, aosp or stock. Enough said and more will be revealed in the nexus 6 forums hopefully within the next week we will see how bad it really gets
fun..
to bad kitkat will not work on the n6 without drivers for kitkat. unless its a lollipop rom thats just themed like kitkat.
simms22 said:
fun..
to bad kitkat will not work on the n6 without drivers for kitkat. unless its a lollipop rom thats just themed like kitkat.
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You may be right and I might be wasting time. Something to do though
jhr5474 said:
You may be right and I might be wasting time. Something to do though
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i actually think you should keep trying, seriously. maybe it is possible to modify the lollipop drivers for kitkat, or modify the n5 drivers for kitkat for the n6. anyways, it woukd be neat to try kitkat on the n6
I thought the Nexus theory was to have the latest and greatest and never look back. Time would be better utilized squashing bugs in M.
prdog1 said:
I thought the Nexus theory was to have the latest and greatest and never look back. Time would be better utilized squashing bugs in M.
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it is.. but we also cant forget about nostalgia D
my n5 died this week, after flashing m, seriously. andvi found my old sgs4 that hasnt been powered on in nearly 2 years, its running android 4.3
simms22 said:
it is.. but we also cant forget about nostalgia D
my n5 died this week, after flashing m, seriously. andvi found my old sgs4 that hasnt been powered on in nearly 2 years, its running android 4.3
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My son got robbed of his S6 by knifepoint. Ran my S3 4.3 for a couple days. Verizon Samsung on ATT not a beautiful experience. Lol Ran an old HTC Inspire on 2.3 Ginger for a week or so. Sister gave him Note 3 so he back to Lolli now.
prdog1 said:
My son got robbed of his S6 by knifepoint. Ran my S3 4.3 for a couple days. Verizon Samsung on ATT not a beautiful experience. Lol Ran an old HTC Inspire on 2.3 Ginger for a week or so. Sister gave him Note 3 so he back to Lolli now.
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i actually rooted it and flashed safeline recovery, first time ever! lol. i used kingsroot, a one click app to root. its a verizon phone, so i cant ever use it on a provider. but makes good calls over hangouts
simms22 said:
i actually rooted it and flashed safeline recovery, first time ever! lol. its a verizon phone, so i cant ever use it on a provider. but makes good calls over hangouts
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Why can't use it on provider. He has used Verizon Rezound on TMO and S3 on ATT. Not perfect but they work. He bad about breaking **** and never buys insurance.
Android 5.1.1 is rolling out today. This thread is to discuss about the new android iteration.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...es-for-nexus-4-nexus-5-and-cellular-nexus-7s/
Nexus 5, 5.1.1 Factory image Download link: https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/hammerhead-lmy48b-factory-596bb9c1.tgz
OTA Download:
5.1 -> 5.1.1: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...itting-devices-here-are-the-direct-ota-links/
Guys, help to the Shenmue 3 kickstarter! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3
jlmcr87 said:
I open this thread to discuss about the new android version 5.1 Lollipop. Info here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...roid-one-phones-coming-soon-to-nexus-devices/
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I'm really excited about 5.1 version, hope it will be something like Android 4.1 - much better Android 4.0.
pianistaPL said:
I'm really excited about 5.1 version, hope it will be something like Android 4.1 - much better Android 4.0.
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That was ICS to JB this is still lollipop, i dont know if that makes a difference though.
Besides bug fixes and minor tweaks, i don't foresee anything that Android could come out with that would blow my mind.
Everything that could be done with a rom seems to have been accomplished. Now it's all just fancy bells and whistles on who can look prettier.
hope bug fixes
More news:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...oth-connections-from-the-quick-settings-menu/
Hopefully RAM management will be fixed.
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we are supposed to get silent mode back right. thats an additional feature being added not a bug fix.
According to Android Pit, yes, Silent Mode is back!
Silent mode added after missing on Android 5.0
General improvements in system stability
Improved RAM management
Fixes for sudden app closures
Improved battery management
Excessive consumption of network devices when used Wi-Fi fixed
Issues with wireless connections fixed
Problems with Okay Google function solved
Notifications problems solved
Some sound problems experience by certain devices fixed
Other improvements and changes
Changes in the Material Design color palette (after users complaints, possibly for a higher version though)
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::edit:: these are rumors and not actual changes. Sorry. Silent mode is up in the air.
I'll be happy with some RAM/Battery management, but I doubt it comes too soon since we haven't got 5.0.2 yet.
As you can see 5.0.2 it´s only for tablets....
Definitely looking forward to ram & battery improvements!
Wooooow! I can't wait!
i can't wait. i hope it also fixes the gps issues that 5.0 brought to my phone (as well as a few others). I've had to roll back to kk for now
I expect a better manage for battery, since I have android 5.0.1 it consumes a lot of energy and drains my battery
Still waiting on the Camera2 API being put to use. I Wonder if this will be the first step before an update to the Google Camera app
Is there any clue as to when 5.1 could arrive? Now the news is in the open and the software seems operational, would it be a matter of days, weeks or months to arrive on Nexuses...?
Goldenrooster said:
Is there any clue as to when 5.1 could arrive? Now the news is in the open and the software seems operational, would it be a matter of days, weeks or months to arrive on Nexuses...?
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It´s seems it will be available this month.
Sadly i don't think 5.1 brings any fix to memory leak and battery life. cos from 4.4.4 to 5.0 brings no improvements except material design. i don't want to rise my expectations cos i don't want big dissapointments.
Lol WTF man?
Some of you may have installed the recent Lollipop update, if so what are your first impressions "Was it worth the Waiting"
Has TW improved & what the changes?
Howz Battery life & overall Performance?
Does ART have a notable impact and do you miss the Xposed functionality? (Xposed now updated for Snapdragon & soon will be Exynos.
There are many more questions but these in time are best answered by people having updated, I myself will wait because I'm presently happy with KitKat.
Just downloading the N910K ver now, I get back to you in a day or two.
sucks
No 64 bit no 4g ram. My antutu went from 52.000 to 43000 . Pretty colours and the end
Sounds a huge let down, oh well, I still have a N910G on KitKat.
oiwnos said:
No 64 bit no 4g ram. My antutu went from 52.000 to 43000 . Pretty colours and the end
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Thanks Oiwnos for the reply., Sorry your first impression is not positive, was it a OTA update or did you flash as clean install?
asia559571 said:
Thanks Oiwnos for the reply., Sorry your first impression is not positive, was it a OTA update or did you flash as clean install?
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Clean install . of 4.4.4 then ota . the antutu test happenend with just the phone's apps
Have found first few issues with 5.0.1 stock:
1. Heartrate sensor is almost always active -- if you put your finger or anything else on the sensor it's going to flash red. All the time, even after reboot and no SHealth running.
2. Interruptions mode settings are not complete. HERE you can see how it's done in S5 lollipop firmware, but in Note4 I don't have "Sound mode" settings and no interruprions settings from the volume button menu, only through Settings -- Sound Notifications -- Interruptions.
Next update needed.
oiwnos said:
Clean install . of 4.4.4 then ota . the antutu test happenend with just the phone's apps
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Question! Is running ART? if yes, is there an option to go back to Dalvik.
There's no new API for camera. Google, Motorola, Sony and (I guess) LG imported them. Just Sammy doesn't updated it in Lollipop. Pretty dissapointing as it was the only feature that I wanted in this version. Note 3, S5 and S4 are affected too.
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There's no new API for camera. Google, Motorola, Sony and (I guess) LG imported them. Just Sammy doesn't updated it in Lollipop. Pretty dissapointing as it was the only feature that I wanted in this version. Note 3, S5 and S4 are affected too.
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Only Google has actually used the Camera2 API in the Nexus 5 and Nexus 6.
Motorola, HTC, Sony and LG are all not using them on their Lollipop updates. We may expect them to support it on 5.0 released devices like the S6+
I hope this isnt final!
oiwnos said:
No 64 bit no 4g ram. My antutu went from 52.000 to 43000 . Pretty colours and the end
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If the 64 bit stuff is not accessible neither is the 4gb of ram.....then this is total disappointment. another user said that their benchmark results dropper as well. what's going on samsung? was this just an aesthetic update? i can do without the make-up I want my performance.
ddaharu said:
If the 64 bit stuff is not accessible neither is the 4gb of ram.....then this is total disappointment. another user said that their benchmark results dropper as well. what's going on samsung? was this just an aesthetic update? i can do without the make-up I want my performance.
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i got 49607 at AnTuTu now with Lollipop (and the device was hot before the test, so, could got more points if was colder) .. Strange that i have loose 1500 points on multitasking and won 1500 points too on execution time.. the rest still the same value +/- that was on 4.4.4.
i've no bug with S-health sensor, stays off until i choose some function on S-heath app
Same problem with interruptions (incomplete)
The rest the ROM it's faster and smoother than 4.4.4, very beautiful too...
ddaharu said:
If the 64 bit stuff is not accessible neither is the 4gb of ram.....then this is total disappointment. another user said that their benchmark results dropper as well. what's going on samsung? was this just an aesthetic update? i can do without the make-up I want my performance.
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1. 64 bit wouldn't do diddly squat for the performance of your phone. Hardly anyone even utilizes the power of 64 bit on desktop work let alone a phone.
2. download more ram? Say wha???
willowpc said:
i got 49607 at AnTuTu now with Lollipop (and the device was hot before the test, so, could got more points if was colder) .. Strange that i have loose 1500 points on multitasking and won 1500 points too on execution time.. the rest still the same value +/- that was on 4.4.4.
i've no bug with S-health sensor, stays off until i choose some function on S-heath app
Same problem with interruptions (incomplete)
The rest the ROM it's faster and smoother than 4.4.4, very beautiful too...
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thanks bro! well this makes me feel a lot better. I'll just wait for it to come out on my n910h
Sublation said:
1. 64 bit wouldn't do diddly squat for the performance of your phone. Hardly anyone even utilizes the power of 64 bit on desktop work let alone a phone.
2. download more ram? Say wha???
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lol yeah ur right!
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Blazing fast Dirty installed over my 4.4.4 X-Note installation. Everything works without problems. No FC's. Simply perfectly smooth. Waiting for custom ROMs with blacked out ui
asia559571 said:
Some of you may have installed the recent Lollipop update, if so what are your first impressions "Was it worth the Waiting"
Has TW improved & what the changes?
Howz Battery life & overall Performance?
Does ART have a notable impact and do you miss the Xposed functionality?
There are many more questions but these in time are best answered by people having updated, I myself will wait because I'm presently happy with KitKat.
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A simple review video :
youtu.be/s392gzrgU34
Portuguese-BR
Like and subs.
I will post a CM12 review too when it "comes out"
Wrong forum?! I think topic must be moved to general or Q&A section.
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After install the Lollipop N910C, i found that now, when you click com Quick Glance, you got a menu with options to what you want to show on the quick glance, but i can't get this to work, the settings gives me FC when i click on Try It, and the quick glance doesn't works at all...
Have any possibility that any developer can enable this ?
Deadly Sto(R)m said:
Wrong forum?! I think topic must be moved to general or Q&A section.
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Why wrong forum? Why don't you focus on something instead of being a mini-mod. These are exciting times because of Lollipop.
4.4.4 vs 5.0.1