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Hi.
I have the above phone, which contrary to some posters I am actually happy with, at least I was until the last update notification which I received on Monday of this week.
I upgraded to version 4.10.405.1 (Ice Cream Sandwich I think?) thinking to myself that like PC's phones need updates too. My other software details are HTC Sense ver 3.6, and Android ver 4.0.4.
However, since updating my phone is now ridiculously slow. Example, when going from Settings back to the home screen I am now confronted with an extremely long pause coupled with a darkened / greyed out background screen with an oblong box which inside has "Loading" displayed with a round symbol which circles itself.
This has only happened since the up-date this morning, and Everything was running just Fine before this.
My phone is not bloated, and I don't have many apps on there, and I have not changed or added anything in around six weeks.
I know they release updates to improve things and or fix issues, but something has gone terribly wrong here to make my phone act like this. I even re-booted after the update, and even tried turning the phone off for a while, but none of these things has made any difference whatsoever.
All HTC support over the phone said was to run a "Factory reset" which did nothing.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Peterobertson said:
Hi.
I have the above phone, which contrary to some posters I am actually happy with, at least I was until the last update notification which I received on Monday of this week.
I upgraded to version 4.10.405.1 (Ice Cream Sandwich I think?) thinking to myself that like PC's phones need updates too. My other software details are HTC Sense ver 3.6, and Android ver 4.0.4.
However, since updating my phone is now ridiculously slow. Example, when going from Settings back to the home screen I am now confronted with an extremely long pause coupled with a darkened / greyed out background screen with an oblong box which inside has "Loading" displayed with a round symbol which circles itself.
This has only happened since the up-date this morning, and Everything was running just Fine before this.
My phone is not bloated, and I don't have many apps on there, and I have not changed or added anything in around six weeks.
I know they release updates to improve things and or fix issues, but something has gone terribly wrong here to make my phone act like this. I even re-booted after the update, and even tried turning the phone off for a while, but none of these things has made any difference whatsoever.
All HTC support over the phone said was to run a "Factory reset" which did nothing.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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One word answer to your problem here : Sense
well... I got my incredible S this last monday, with stock rom and latest update done.
In fact, it's just the same as yours...
I don't find it too slow, but I don't know how it behaved before... what I do notice is that the battery only lasts for about 13~14hours, with wi-fi, bluetooth, gps disconected. Lot's of text messages though...
How's yours on battery?
Sorry for the hi-jack on the thread
ntmm said:
well... I got my incredible S this last monday, with stock rom and latest update done.
In fact, it's just the same as yours...
I don't find it too slow, but I don't know how it behaved before... what I do notice is that the battery only lasts for about 13~14hours, with wi-fi, bluetooth, gps disconected. Lot's of text messages though...
How's yours on battery?
Sorry for the hi-jack on the thread
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Hahahaha its not the same as mine. As you seen mines is rooted and im running a custom ROM It would probably be in your best benefit to do so as well.
and in all honesty our phones arent all too well equipped to run ICS. Slap on Sense and youre in for a phone to get slow real fast. In my opinion the Inc S could run Gingerbread and Sense 2.(something lol) decently fine but with some lag.
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One word answer to your problem here : Sense
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Ermm, without wishing to sound ungrateful, could you elaborate on this please.
I'm ok when it comes to PC's for troubleshooting, building etc, but I'm new to the whole phone side of things, so in simple form would be most welcome.
Thanks.
@ 072665995 :
I was talking to Peterobertson =D
But thank you for your input
Peterobertson said:
Ermm, without wishing to sound ungrateful, could you elaborate on this please.
I'm ok when it comes to PC's for troubleshooting, building etc, but I'm new to the whole phone side of things, so in simple form would be most welcome.
Thanks.
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HTC Sense is an extreme resource hog. Just open up task manager or go to running apps in settings and RAM usage will be generally sitting at 350 or 400mb used. On top of that Sense takes up quite a bit of CPU power. All this results in maybe less battery to use (this really depends on how you use your phone). Furthermore, Sense can be at times, relatively unstable. I have had quite a good number of games crash because im pretty sure HTC made it so that the Rosie.apk is always running unlike maybe trebuchet or nova or apex (although you can set it so it runs in the foreground). So on top of sucking up a lot of power, the OS cannot kill Sense to allow more things to run at once and the last time i checked the Rosie could suck up somewhere around 40-50 mb. Add all the other applications, maybe widgets, other apps in more of a hibernation mode and you come up with that 400mb or RAM usage.
Of course theres also a ton of good things about Sense. In terms of widget, Sense really is king. You cant really beat them on that. The calender widget, the flip clock, all those goodies. Theres also a number of built in apps that might be useful like twitter, facebook, and even FM Radio (which is awesome cuz i listen to radio a lot, in fact its one of the few things make me wanna go back to Sense).
Hmm, OK, so there is nothing I can do then?
Surely there must be something. I was NOT having Any problems whatsoever, and let me make that perfectly clear so there is no confusion, NO issues at all before that so called update on Monday.
This is what is bothering me so much, and is something that I cannot get my head around. Everything and I mean everything was running just fine, and nice and fast too, with no pauses / lag etc, so I know it is the update that has done this because nothing else has changed. I have not added or removed anything for the past six weeks or so, and I am not really an "App" person if you know what I mean. I catch up with most of my friends on line using the PC and email etc, the phone is just secondary and is not the main tool I use.
I find it incredibly Arrogant of either HTC (It's their phone) or even Google (Don't they make the OS?) not to offer any backup or re-download scheme under a support link on either of their web sites in case anything goes wrong like this.
If this was a certain few software developers I can think of, then that is exactly what they would have in place just in case something goes wrong. We can even run system restore on Windows, roll back a driver, and in the case of most manufacturers we can re-download drivers etc going back two plus years, this is what makes this so bloody annoying and is really whizzing me off.
I had a perfectly good and functional mobile phone before an official update, but now I am left with a laggy, slow ass piece of crap that no one can do anything with and a manufacturer that just tells me to run a factory re-set, which anyone with a modicum of common sense knows will do Nothing at all after a firmware update because it is so deep rooted.
Way to go HTC. This will definitely make me want to buy another of your products
I wonder if the word "Customer Satisfaction" means anything in their little bubble world.
Unfortunatly a big percentage of the "tecs" at the support "team"/line don't know even 10% of what they are supposed to do, let alone know what people can do in most scenarios because the answer is not on the few post-its they have...
Nonetheless sometimes you get a tec that can help you...
I agree with you that you should be able to rollback from some updates, back to a more stable version, and that the updates shouldn't be definitive.
The system should be user friendly, not "geek-friendly", meaning that everyone should be able to do most things.
Apart from that, I can't say if my IncS is faster/slower/the same, I got it (used) on monday, connected it via wi-fi, went to see if there was any update, there was just only one, for the "customize" thing ( it's the painting pallet, where you go to choose the face, background, theme, etc) ...
My only complain as of now is the battery... how's the battery drain on yours?
"how's the battery drain on yours?"
Pretty crappy.
I sent a message to mwilky regarding this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705334&highlight=htc+incredible+stock
I am hoping that some kind soul feels my frustration and helps. it would be great if my phone can run one of these faster software systems while still being able to use the usual apps such as camera etc.
As you agree with me, yes, there should be a tab on the support page on the HTC web site that has Drivers, Sense, Firmware etc and the facility to be able to roll back to a version that was working fine before they screwed everything up with their "Update"
Don't forget, my phone is not bloated with all sorts of stuff, and I run it very lean. I use it pretty much just as a phone.
Yeah, I use the phone mainly as a phone too...
Plus the casual e-mail, gaming, picture/video and music...
I got the phone so I could use it's functions whenever they're needed... so...
Yesterday I turned off a few things at the middle of the day and the battery lasted 15+ hours untill reaching 14%, that's when I went to bed and put it charge. will see today how it goes.
Though I'm yet to experience what you described that happened with yours... gutted for you =/
Peter
Agreed HTC doesn't offer a backup before one applies an update. If your phone is still under warranty and/or you don't want to root it, then the best option i see is to visit the customer care and get the ginger bread installed - make sure to sync your contacts and calendars..
On the other hand if you want to root it then the jellybean ROM available are pretty stable and fast...
Sent from my Incredible S using xda app-developers app
Im sure you can find a Gingerbread RUU. Sure htcdev.com no longer has the RUU's but hey, theres always google. I mean its not like its possible for HTC to shut down everything :laugh:
On the side note though, its probably most recommended to just root your phone and slap another ROM on. I used to be just like you. I absolutely HATED Sense but you goota give everything a shot to see where each ROM stands you know. Some of the devs here like Nikhil007mus and Alirez_sos and interaser have made their respective Sense ROMs very smooth and reliable (although Alirez's ROM has been shut down due to him supposedly kanging. Yes i support him that he isnt using stolen stuff).
I'm quite tired of my Inc S as well.
I tried to trade it for an iPhone 4- 16 gigs- lately. But without luck.
No stable Cm 9-10 so far, shipped with laggy firmware. It's time to invest some bucks in new hardware, there's no other solution...
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giudicealdo said:
I'm quite tired of my Inc S as well.
I tried to trade it for an iPhone 4- 16 gigs- lately. But without luck.
No stable Cm 9-10 so far, shipped with laggy firmware. It's time to invest some bucks in new hardware, there's no other solution...
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-_- you are aware that there are some great Sense ROMs out there that do not lag and are very much stable???
I'm running viverVivo at the moment. I'm enjoying it: really a great work. It's highly customizable, and I love to play with it. But I constantly have to kill apps, wipe everything, use seeder, play with the kernel settings...
And I still haven't found a good balance between battery life and smoothness... I must admit I'm quite a noob Anyway, despite the efforts of a great development community, this device is just old now... And as someone said some post above, is optimized for GB, ICS capable, and not able to run JB in a satisfying way.
Does anyone want my Inc S?
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giudicealdo said:
I'm running viverVivo at the moment. I'm enjoying it: really a great work. It's highly customizable, and I love to play with it. But I constantly have to kill apps, wipe everything, use seeder, play with the kernel settings...
And I still haven't found a good balance between battery life and smoothness... I must admit I'm quite a noob Anyway, despite the efforts of a great development community, this device is just old now... And as someone said some post above, is optimized for GB, ICS capable, and not able to run JB in a satisfying way.
Does anyone want my Inc S?
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Mmmm. The Incredible S is capable of running any Android OS. The only reason why it gets more difficult to run newer Android OS is because Android is packing more and more things into their operating system making it laggier. A great example is the difference between 2.3 and 4.0.4. There was quite a noticeable difference in speed because HTC decided to bloat their firmware (damn you HTC, damn you ) To your last comment, our phone is not capable of running JB in a satisfying way, thats not necessarily the case. I think you are referring to the number of bugs that come with AOSP builds for our device?? Theres bound to be issues because no one builds stock ROMs for our device due to aging. So theres the different CPUs and screen resolutions and all that stuff which isnt exactly fun to work with. If someone manages to successfully built a jellybean Sense ROM for our device (interaser certainly did a GREAT job with Viper based off of One X for sure), theres probably gonna be less bugs.
Giudicealdo, I don't agree in totality.. If you look at the dev forums, then 4.2.1: jelly time and one by lacoste and 4.2.2: pacman and one by lacoste are pretty stable and fast ROMs...
But yes i agree that the battery life is not as great ICS onwards as it was with GB...
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Hi again All.
WoW, some FANTASTIC ideas and inputs from everyone (did I just make up a new word - inputs)
Anyway, can I ask everyone a big favour please.
I am new to this kind of thing, and don't really understand all this stuff below >
ROM: RENOVATE Final 1 < Is this the operating system?
Android Version: 4.1.1 < Whats this?
Sense Version: 4+ < I kind of know what this is.
Build Number: 3.14.401.31 < No idea what this is.
Kernel: Stock JB < Nor this
Radio: 5.1204.162.29 < I only found out about this from the tech guy at Monkeymobile, But I sort of know what it is now.
So, with all of the above said, What are your recommendations for me to install on the phone?
ROM: < Which should I use
Android Version: < Which should I use
Sense Version: < Which should I use
Build Number: < Which should I use
Kernel: Stock < Which should I use
Radio: < Which should I use
Bearing in mind that I am looking for fluidity and speed, not that fussed about battery time, as I can charge it in the house, car, and at work, but just want something that's quick and not laggy, but the Camera must work as well as the Wi-Fi too.
Is there anything else I need to download, again, if there is can you make any recommendations please. And, is there anything else to worry about, for example this aerial business?
I know I am asking a lot, but, I do appreciate all the help from all of you.
Peterobertson said:
Hi again All.
WoW, some FANTASTIC ideas and inputs from everyone (did I just make up a new word - inputs)
Anyway, can I ask everyone a big favour please.
I am new to this kind of thing, and don't really understand all this stuff below >
ROM: RENOVATE Final 1 < Is this the operating system?
Android Version: 4.1.1 < Whats this?
Sense Version: 4+ < I kind of know what this is.
Build Number: 3.14.401.31 < No idea what this is.
Kernel: Stock JB < Nor this
Radio: 5.1204.162.29 < I only found out about this from the tech guy at Monkeymobile, But I sort of know what it is now.
So, with all of the above said, What are your recommendations for me to install on the phone?
ROM: < Which should I use
Android Version: < Which should I use
Sense Version: < Which should I use
Build Number: < Which should I use
Kernel: Stock < Which should I use
Radio: < Which should I use
Bearing in mind that I am looking for fluidity and speed, not that fussed about battery time, as I can charge it in the house, car, and at work, but just want something that's quick and not laggy, but the Camera must work as well as the Wi-Fi too.
Is there anything else I need to download, again, if there is can you make any recommendations please. And, is there anything else to worry about, for example this aerial business?
I know I am asking a lot, but, I do appreciate all the help from all of you.
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Peter,
My two cents:
First you need to decide whether you want to stick to sense ROMs, that is, HTC stock Roms or move to non-sense (0 ROMS..
Since you are on ICS - I would recommed you try IceColdSandwich 8.8 which is an amazing AOKP ROM
Further take a look at the below links to root your phone and find the list of custom ROMs (stock and otherwise)
Flashing phone : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
List of ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136463
Answering some of your questions (but you will have to read on google or xda forums - that helps most):
Android 4.1.1 is JellyBean; other versions of JellyBean are 4.2.1 and 4.2.2. Android 4.0.4 is IceCreamSandwich
Stock kernel: developers use the HTC kernel available with stock ROM. Some of them use the customized ones
Thus:
ROM: try all the flavours available and then stick to the one you like most. Some of the stable ones available are:
1. Gingerbread: ARHD ROM (Stock)
2. ICS: IceColdsandwich 8.3/8.8 (non stock), Niks (Stock)
3. JB 4.1.1: Lacoste's ROM
4. JB4.2.1: JellyTime by blindndumb and Lacoste's ROM
5. JB4.2.2: PACman v21 and Lacoste's ROM
Sense: depends on your taste; sense 4 is only available for ICS ROM and not for GB ROM. Personally I had stopped liking Sense since ICS update.. even though it offers some really good widgets but it restricts a user.. the AOKP and other ROMs offer a great deal of customization..
Kernel: ideally use the ones embedded in the ROM; you can however flash available kernels
Radio: Above link for flashing the ROM will give you an insight
Hope it helps
Hi, I just crossed back to Android and am excited to be back but am a little peeved with HTC's Sense overlay. I had the Nexus S a couple of years back (and loved it!) before using iOS and now I just upgraded to the One hoping to have the same experience with my Nexus.
My question is...and I'm hoping its in the right forum...is it possible to root the HTC One and have stock vanilla Android on it? Honestly, I kind of feel that HTC Sense ruins a really a beautifully made phone. It does add a lot of unnecessary functions and tries to link everything and everyone which makes it absolutely confusing.
Also...how obnoxious is that bootup with the Sprint splash screen? Ugh. Brings the premium down a couple of notches.
You can root the one easily using HTC's unlock method. I believe there's a toolkit in the development section. No vanilla android just yet. Although sense isn't really as bad as what it used to be. (But again, I primarily use my phone for social networking.)
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The cm team had a build but it's very Alpha, that's is the only A.O.S.P. Rom at the moment. Once that's all peachy I'm sure you will see others pop up.
As far as the boot up sound, after you root, most of the available rooms have disable it.
Sent from my HTCONE
When my One is on vibrate I never here the boot up sound.
Also, could the 4.2.2 keyboard be ported over? I've already been replacing HTC apps with stock apps (gallery, clock, etc).
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If you want to keep up with the development of CM 10.1 which is very close to vanilla android, heres the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266048
So far they've got most things working except for the camera, IR blaster, Bluetooh and using headphones while you're in a call. Give it a couple of weeks though and we'll have a very stable version available. I'm not a fan of sense at all, so I'm excited to flash over to CM 10.1.
fraspas said:
My question is...and I'm hoping its in the right forum...is it possible to root the HTC One and have stock vanilla Android on it?
Also...how obnoxious is that bootup with the Sprint splash screen? Ugh. Brings the premium down a couple of notches.
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Download some different launchers from the Play store and try them out. You don't even need to root a device to change launchers. Simply download, install and open.
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So far they've got most things working except for the camera, IR blaster, Bluetooh and using headphones while you're in a call. Give it a couple of weeks though and we'll have a very stable version available. I'm not a fan of sense at all, so I'm excited to flash over to CM 10.1.
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I'd be curious to see if there is some portion of the hardware that works only with the Sense framework.
It would be awesome if a custom ROM can push the camera beyond the stock experience. Does the HTC 'ImageChip' work with custom ROMs like CM?
Hey guys,
I'm currently using one of the first ROM's that came out for the M7 - the GEonSense Rom - with (I think) the Bulletproof kernel for underclocking/BLN.
With 4.3's release and the additional S-Off stuff, I figured it might be good to get those going soon as well.
So, my question for you guys is this - which new rom should I flash?
What I'm looking for:
- AOSP lockscreen - why I went with GE on Sense in the first place
- stable - GEonSense has so far been rock-solid, without the random apps FC'ing
- everything working - I use the camera, the IR sensor, the bluetooth, the wifi, what not. I don't need cutting edge performance, but I need the various pieces of hardware working.
It's cool if there's not really anything that checks these boxes, but thanks for reading, and double thanks in advance for a response.
I've had my one for a month and have tried quite a few roms, but my favorite that I recently installed is the ViperOne rom, Its a sense rom. Don't know if it fits your needs, but its a very good rom, alot of customizing built in, check it out.
I've only had my One for about 10 days, so I'm no expert. But I've been here on XDA since 2008 and just came from a DNA, so not too far off the mark. I've been playing with all the One ROMs I can find here and I've been really impressed with, and have settled on, the SinLess ROM for now. I may change, but it's got everything I want (except Zoe, since it's not Sense) and everything it does have works. I know you asked for Sense, so I'm probably not helping much, but I like Sense as well and I find I really like this GE ROM.
i've had my one for a few months now and tested a lot of roms even kitkat ones. however theres always one rom i revert to every single time and that is Android Revolution HD 31.5 with the bulletproof kernal. very, very stable and definitely my favorite rom. no aosp lockscreen but it has sense.
Well, Viper one has aosp lockscreen and sense 5.5, so go for it, you'll love the possibilities of what you can do
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Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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I too am enjoying the material design 'overhaul' and to be honest have been spending so long with 'feature rich' ROMs it's nice to go back to the basics. I'm missing some of my favourite staples like the traffic monitor and lock screen targets but overall I'm really enjoying Lolipop.
Features I'm loving:
- Location based security
- Built in 'quiet hours'
- Built in battery analysis
- Recent apps overhaul (just now getting used to not closing all open apps)
maritimesbob said:
Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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I have long ago gone back to 4.4.4. Not only am I not a fan of the new temp Material remake but the issues with over all volume decrease and other issues are not worth it. Not to mention the really stupid in call screen. Not sure what they were thinking there.
Did you go back to stock GPE Zelendel?
Glad to hear there are a few not happy with L.
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Did you go back to stock GPE Zelendel?
Glad to hear there are a few not happy with L.
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No I went back to DU as it was my daily driver. Gpe is to bland for me with not enough options.
Also went back from lollipop to Sense 4.4.3
I prefer Sense UI and I'm not a huge fan of the new lollipop design. Some changes are great and some others I don't like at all.
Xposed framework incompatibility with ART is probably the main reason why I reverted back to Kitkat.
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Also went back from lollipop to Sense 4.4.3
I prefer Sense UI and I'm not a huge fan of the new lollipop design. Some changes are great and some others I don't like at all.
Xposed framework incompatibility with ART is probably the main reason why I reverted back to Kitkat.
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That may be a lasting issue. From some to not I have heard he is hardly working on it and is not really motivated to finish it as the direction Google is going is locking the system down for things like xposed.
I used Lollipop for few days because I had that mute call bug and only thing I liked is recent apps. Everything else is just not to my liking. I was so happy when I found out about mute call fix zip ?
I wonder if Lollipop roms will be less customisable than previous google releases?
Yeah I can see me switching back to KK at some point. We can always have the Material look with a theme engine. I miss the customisation that comes with KK and even Jellybean roms.
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No I went back to DU as it was my daily driver. Gpe is to bland for me with not enough options.
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What is the DU rom you mentioned? Thanks.
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maritimesbob said:
I wonder if Lollipop roms will be less customisable than previous google releases?
Yeah I can see me switching back to KK at some point. We can always have the Material look with a theme engine. I miss the customisation that comes with KK and even Jellybean roms.
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Many are working on bringing the features to 5.0. Some are doing it wrong and just trying to port them over instead of redoing them to work properly but the features are coming. I wouldnt want to rush it mainly with google pushing so many updates on a daily basis. I mean we are already up to what 5.0.2r7 with 5.1 rumored to be out next month. The material design is just like the whole Holo deal. IT will pass. Google is even changing the color pallet after many complaints. So That is not a big deal really. Well unless your an app developer that made your app in the material design then come 6.0 or 7 they will have to redo it again to match what ever google decides to do then.
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What is the DU rom you mentioned? Thanks.
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It is Dirty unicorns, I also use Slim. I did use AICP for a while but have moved away from roms that use CM as a base.
Thanks for the info, I better be careful this doesn't turn into a roms comparison thread!
I am sure Lollipop roms will get better and better once devs get their heads around the software, start adding features. I am sure it's a very small percentage of phone users who even have 5.0 on their phones, a good portion are probably still Jellybean.
Myself, going back to a KK rom for now until the L roms mature a little more.
Anyone finding the aosp (inc cm) Lollipop roms better than GPE for stability, battery longevity etc?
I myself am liking the taste of the lollipop myself, tastes like strawberries runs much smoother than KK, battery life is great, all my apps are working, no faults with it what so ever.
The few issues I think many people are having with it and a lot seem to be complaining about, is HTC themselves haven't listened to anyone, the issues are with sense that HTC bang on top of Google's Android, the widgets are still to small and don't come right down, however there is a mod to fix this, cant stand the ugly white and black background on the clock and weather widget, im using Chronus for my clock and weather at the moment, I do miss xposed but not enough to revert back, there are for now alternatives for what I used xposed for, they just take a bit of hunting down.
The sense version of Lollipop is still a baby at the moment and Dev's are working on their apps already for Lollipop including xposed, it will come.
You have to remember that the ROM which LabFooter posted a few days ago is still very much in beta stage. its a leak and still in testing, any issues found can still be fixed yet.
Anyone else tried Lollipop and gone back to Kitkat or even Jellybean, and why? Just trying to keep the conversation going on this one as it's early days with Lollipop and all that. Figured there are many who like or dislike the operating system.
maritimesbob said:
Anyone else tried Lollipop and gone back to Kitkat or even Jellybean, and why? Just trying to keep the conversation going on this one as it's early days with Lollipop and all that. Figured there are many who like or dislike the operating system.
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I did. Lollipop is nice to look at, but IMO it's just that. It's still too buggy for me to use it. Back to good old KK and enjoying every minute
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I did. Lollipop is nice to look at, but IMO it's just that. It's still too buggy for me to use it. Back to good old KK and enjoying every minute
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Took the words right out of my mouth, lollipop looks and feels real nice. But the poor functionality due to all the bugs it's just not usable as an every day Rom :good:
Dont' fix if ain't broken.
Besides not so many new functions I could use in Lolipop.
I prefer trustworthy KK over buggy loli.
Mike
sp5it said:
Dont' fix if ain't broken.
Besides not so many new functions I could use in Lolipop.
I prefer trustworthy KK over buggy loli.
Mike
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Exactly!!! [emoji106]
I looked around to see if anyone else saw any major differences between the android 5.1 and android 6.0.1 update. I only found one video that explains it as best as possible. See link below to youtube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeoDt_6EWW0
What did we actually get besides optimization, google now on tap, and a few visuals here and there?
May-be it's just me, but the only time I get any battery optimization is only when i'm not using the phone. Other then that, while i'm using my phone, the battery still drains fast.
I really don't see the major point in having google now on tap since I really don't care to get a ton of info on sites I visit on my phone.
I was hoping to get a full blown OS upgrade. But after seeing the file size of the update, I was already disappointed from the start.
Am I the only one disappointed in the update?
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I looked around to see if anyone else saw any major differences between the android 5.1 and android 6.0.1 update.
What did we actually get besides optimization, google now on tap, and a few visuals here and there?
May-be it's just me, but the only time I get any battery optimization is only when i'm not using the phone. Other then that, while i'm using my phone, the battery still drains fast.
I really don't see the major point in having google now on tap since I really don't care to get a ton of info on sites I visit on my phone.
I was hoping to get a full blown OS upgrade. But after seeing the file size of the update, I was already disappointed from the start.
Am I the only one disappointed in the update?
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So, other things it got that I'm happy about:
Individual app permissions
Doze
Format SD card as internal storage
To me, these are the best things about upgrading to 6.0.1 that actually make a difference for me.
FYI, the battery life will be the same when you are using the phone, Doze only kicks in when the phone is idle, like really, really idle. Not using it, not in your pocket when you're walking around, nothing like that. It needs to be sitting still on a table/desk for a good while (like when you are sleeping and not constantly checking your phone) before it will kick Doze on.
I agree with @Rev_Pizzaguy...that's how Android M works by design. I have Evervolv Marshmallow running on my HP Touchpad and i get the slowest drain when Doze is running and my tablet is totally still and nothing runs.
Also, I personally have no regrets converting my 64GB SD card to internal. I weighed the pros and cons and made my choice, lol.
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So, other things it got that I'm happy about:
Individual app permissions
Doze
Format SD card as internal storage
To me, these are the best things about upgrading to 6.0.1 that actually make a difference for me.
FYI, the battery life will be the same when you are using the phone, Doze only kicks in when the phone is idle, like really, really idle. Not using it, not in your pocket when you're walking around, nothing like that. It needs to be sitting still on a table/desk for a good while (like when you are sleeping and not constantly checking your phone) before it will kick Doze on.
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App permissions and SD card as internal storage is fine. I have no problem with these system updates, it's the fact that they didn't take full advantage of the ability to customize their particular os. HTC needs a little pep in their step when it comes to visual os upgrades. The themes engine is OK, but nothing compared to cyanogenmod, miui, oxygen os and flyme os. What I was referring to was the look overall not changing. Instead of calling it a Android 6.0.1 os update, they should have called it an Android 6.0.1 system update and made it perfectly clear that there would be no actual visual changes, just a few system changes. Text on a screen can be misinterpreted by the reader, so I want to make it clear. I'm not upset with what the update offered, I'm upset at the fact that there was no change to the look of the os. Maybe if there are future updates for this, things may change. But for now, just gonna sit back and be content with what I got and hope for the best going forth in the future.
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I agree with @Rev_Pizzaguy...that's how Android M works by design. I have Evervolv Marshmallow running on my HP Touchpad and i get the slowest drain when Doze is running and my tablet is totally still and nothing runs.
Also, I personally have no regrets converting my 64GB SD card to internal. I weighed the pros and cons and made my choice, lol.
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For me, it's about the visuals. I never said I didn't like the update, I just wanted to see what HTC could do with visuals. That was a disappointment. Everything else that came in the update was fine. Wish I knew how to build roms. But since I don't, I must have hope in those who do and hope they will come through for us 626s users.
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For me, it's about the visuals. I never said I didn't like the update, I just wanted to see what HTC could do with visuals. That was a disappointment. Everything else that came in the update was fine. Wish I knew how to build roms. But since I don't, I must have hope in those who do and hope they will come through for us 626s users.
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HTC's latest version of Sense UI is 7.0 and their other phones that have been updated to Android 6.0.1 ran Sense 7.0 as well, so I wasn't expecting much UI change. I know Sense 8.0 is coming, but it's only in limited release on their new flagship (HTC 10). From the sounds of it, it sounds like they are decoupling Sense UI completely from the OS, though, so we may see it as an update later on. (Search for "HTC Sense 8.0 closed beta" and you'll find plenty of articles.)
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HTC's latest version of Sense UI is 7.0 and their other phones that have been updated to Android 6.0.1 ran Sense 7.0 as well, so I wasn't expecting much UI change. I know Sense 8.0 is coming, but it's only in limited release on their new flagship (HTC 10). From the sounds of it, it sounds like they are decoupling Sense UI completely from the OS, though, so we may see it as an update later on. (Search for "HTC Sense 8.0 closed beta" and you'll find plenty of articles.)
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Thank you Rev for the info. Well, at least that gives me hope. I do develop themes on the side for HTC. But there's only so much you can do as far as customization. I'm only able to change the dialer, messages, wallpapers, icons, and color scheme and a couple other things. They now have what they call "Freestyle Themes." Which are not bad at all. I would just like to see htc themselves think outside of the box like they did with their own branded "Freestyle Theme" collection. But yeah, what you have told me gives me hope for the future. Once again, I thank you for your info. It is much appreciated.:highfive::good:
Check out a couple of my htc themes (links below)
1. Space Glow - Classic Theme
https://themes.htc.com/#/user/theme/com.htc.theme.t2cdf94df-7c57-4f39-976f-1cb48ee4341e
2. Hey Scotty! Vintage Man! - Freestyle Theme
https://themes.htc.com/#/user/theme/com.htc.theme.t29886eca-9024-4408-bda3-d784308c4745
"Freestyle themes" have been around for a while, I've been using them since they where first introduced on a Sense Home update in the play store.
Hey guys, nice forum and good topic. But I'm needing some help in updating my 626s s-off. I've been looking around for a compatible update of the 6.0.1 but keep getting alternate language. Any help or links anyone can provide is most appreciated. Thank you.
IsaacGuti said:
"Freestyle themes" have been around for a while, I've been using them since they where first introduced on a Sense Home update in the play store.
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Sounds great, which ones are your favs?