[Q] permanent recovery - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, I tried to google this, and search here, is there a way to make recovery Permanent? It seems like it changes with a rom flash, I believe that's because it uses the kernel as the recovery, if I recall? I was wondering if there was a way to make it permanent, as I much prefer PHILZ recoveries.
Thanks in advance.

Actually thats not passible i think
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There is the FOTAKernel method.The recovery is written to the FOTAKernel partition and the kernel reads it from there(all/most custom kernels support this,like cm kernel).So you dont have to change the recovery with the rom!
Download XzKernel v25 and flash it, there is an option to install a PhilZ CWM recovery to the FOTAKernel in the aroma installer of the kernel.After that,you can flash any kernel you want and that kernel will read the recovery from the FOTAKernel parition.
or if you want to go the manual route, then go here: LINK and try that method.Though thats for TWRP.

This may help too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54361630
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Sweet, thanks for all the info guys. Much appreciated.

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TWRP OR CWM Recovery?

Starting from Varun kernel, ThynderZap 4.1, thanks for Varun , wich recovery is the best for our phones?
And, WHY?
PS:I have read some topics from Nexus, but we must have our thread for many newbie users.
R_a_z_v_a_n said:
Starting from Varun kernel, ThynderZap 4.1, thanks for Varun , wich recovery is the best for our phones?
And, WHY?
PS:I'm read some topics from Nexsus, but we must have our the\read for many newbie users.
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In our case, TWRP have support for internal and external SD. Touch support. I think it backed up faster, CWM around 10 min, TWRP 6-7.
Is the CWM permanent?
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GaYoung28 said:
Is the CWM permanent?
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Both are. Just it comes embended in kernel. No other way to use permanent, because they are on the same partition (kernel and recovery) on our phone.
If i flash my original FW, will the CWM is missing?
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Twrp is best
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GaYoung28 said:
If i flash my original FW, will the CWM is missing?
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Yes, you will have stock kernel then, and all stock in its partition includin recovery.
i dont know if twrp has the same possibilities to flash zip files. i personally prefer cwm, who cares about 3 min time to create a backup and about touch support, its a recovery and not a launcher
m4kl4 said:
i dont know if twrp has the same possibilities to flash zip files. i personally prefer cwm, who cares about 3 min time to create a backup and about touch support, its a recovery and not a launcher
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Yes TWRP can flash zip, even use internal(varun modifications) and external storage. Both arey quite good, but I like that touch control more
m4kl4 said:
i dont know if twrp has the same possibilities to flash zip files. i personally prefer cwm, who cares about 3 min time to create a backup and about touch support, its a recovery and not a launcher
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May be future Devs can make CWM with Touch support, Galaxy Mini have CWM touch recovery why not us.....
i prefer to use TWRP
since tz 4.1 support TWRP, i immediately download it
So let me get this straight! If you are on stock kernel, you cant have permanent recovery. U need to change kernal for getting permanent recovery enabled. Am I right ?
Sadvance said:
So let me get this straight! If you are on stock kernel, you cant have permanent recovery. U need to change kernal for getting permanent recovery enabled. Am I right ?
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Yes.
On some phones there is possibility to install custom recovery separate from kernel, but on out phone recovery and kernel are on the same partition.

[APP/RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.3.0 for lockled bootloaders installer

Hi !
Here's an application to install and uninstall TWRP 2.4.3.0 recovery on locked bootloaders Xperia Z. It's stable on my Xperia Z, but i highly suspect some partition (system) problems with Xperia ZL phones.
This application will install TWRP recovery ramdisk to system as "recovery.tar", but you can provide your own recovery (ramdisk) by placing it to "/sdcard/XZRecovery.tar". This way this application could be compatible with other recovery or devices.
TWRP recovery ported to Xperia Z by krabappel2548 !
If you don't know which file to use, download XZRecovery-1.0.apk, install it and run it.
The recovery will get lost each time you flash a rom or wipe system partition.
XZRecovery.apk
Install, uninstall and reboot to recovery from your Android device
twrp-2.4.3.0-xz-locked.zip
Install recovery from windows (ADB)
twrp-2.4.3.0-xz-locked-recovery.zip
Install recovery from recovery
Cpasjuste said:
Hi !
Here's twrp recovery for locked bootloaders. It's working in the same way as cwm for locked bootloaders if you tried it.
See krabappel2548 thread for installation and such: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187363
Thanks for reading
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Great work, hope it works fine, i will give it a try
Re: [RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.3.0 for lockled bootloaders
zakwak said:
Great work, hope it works fine, i will give it a try
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At least it work fine here
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Here, too, if you make a full recovery before flashing erasing lost?
Ok , boot into recovery with no problems !!! Thank's !
Great!!!
Does backup & recovery works? I hope it's not as slow as CWM for locked bl. WIll play around with it later.
Re: [RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.3.0 for lockled bootloaders
barbik said:
Here, too, if you make a full recovery before flashing erasing lost?
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Yes, but I may do something to prevent that if I find the time.
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Re: [RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.3.0 for lockled bootloaders
zanndoth said:
Great!!!
Does backup & recovery works? I hope it's not as slow as CWM for locked bl. WIll play around with it later.
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Didn't try a backup but zip flash, mount and utility are. let me know
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Backup worked: 558 seconds.
Hi,
i did update the first post with a recovery zip that can be installed from recovery. So you should be able to flash any (stock based) rom from recovery, including wiping system, then install this file to get recovery back (well before exiting recovery of course or you'll loose it).
Re: [RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.3.0 for lockled bootloaders
Cpasjuste said:
Hi,
i did update the first post with a recovery zip that can be installed from recovery. So you should be able to flash any (stock based) rom from recovery, including wiping system, then install this file to get recovery back (well before exiting recovery of course or you'll loose it).
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Good work, I suppose you used my TWRP recovery?
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krabappel2548 said:
Good work, I suppose you used my TWRP recovery?
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I used stock doomlord recovery fs Edit: Hum i'm saying crap, it's for cwm, so yes it use your rootfs! By the way, did you compile it yourslef? if so i could directly add chargemon flashing in the recovery sources each time a wipe is done on system. Else i will not bother downloading sources and configuring all that
In fact, like i first thought, we should be able to use any initramfs.
So and for your phone, any news ?!
simply, working perfect... thanks, i prefer TWRP to CWM
Untill now, i havent find any king of problems
Thanks a lot
Cpasjuste said:
I used stock doomlord recovery fs Edit: Hum i'm saying crap, it's for cwm, so yes it use your rootfs! By the way, did you compile it yourslef? if so i could directly add chargemon flashing in the recovery sources each time a wipe is done on system. Else i will not bother downloading sources and configuring all that
In fact, like i first thought, we should be able to use any initramfs.
So and for your phone, any news ?!
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I compiled TWRP completely myself yes my patched sources for XZ are on github as wel as the modified device configuration files.
I need ti sent my phone back to the online store on monday, then I'll normally get a replacement for free
krabappel2548 said:
I need ti sent my phone back to the online store on monday, then I'll normally get a replacement for free
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Wow, good News, im happy for you
Sorry krabappel2548
I not clear to me the story of warranty ..
if you have unlocked the bootloader you sent to Sony your IMEI, you should not have lost the Warranty in this way? I do not understand this
Do you lose the warranty or not sending them the IMEI?
Can you help me understand?
Thanks
i might of missed but was the keyboard toggle (letters/numbers) fixed because i still cant toggle
reboots when using root explorer
after installing cwm, phone reboots everytime when i access root explorer or any program that can edit/explore system files. Any fix?
Re: [RECOVERY] TWRP 2.4.3.0 for lockled bootloaders
Do you have an xperia ZL ?
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Guys, Please, im new of Sony device, i come from so many Samsung device, I'd like to Enjoy my device, root and flash cooked rom, but i need before to know this:
I not clear to me the story of warranty ..
if i have unlocked the bootloader i sent to Sony my IMEI, i should not have lost the Warranty in this way? I do not understand this
I lose forever the warranty or not sending them the IMEI?
Can someone help me understand?
Please, Thanks
finoqq84 said:
after installing cwm, phone reboots everytime when i access root explorer or any program that can edit/explore system files. Any fix?
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same here

Q: Confused about kernel an recovery

Hi guys! I'm a little confused about kernel and recovery on the z1.
On all my others phones, flash the recovery was a separate task.
Now I cant find the CWM for z1. All I read is that the DooM kernel comes with the recovery?
is this a difference on the z1 or just another method to do it?
I'm a little scared to flash a kernel that doent work and can goes to recovery either. I'm always sure that the recovery is there to help me for any bad flashing, but if now is on the kernel, if I flash a rom with a kernel without recovery.. ? what happen?
thanks again for the time guys!
deftoner said:
Hi guys! I'm a little confused about kernel and recovery on the z1.
On all my others phones, flash the recovery was a separate task.
Now I cant find the CWM for z1. All I read is that the DooM kernel comes with the recovery?
is this a difference on the z1 or just another method to do it?
I'm a little scared to flash a kernel that doent work and can goes to recovery either. I'm always sure that the recovery is there to help me for any bad flashing, but if now is on the kernel, if I flash a rom with a kernel without recovery.. ? what happen?
thanks again for the time guys!
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Flashing DooMKerneL is another method, you can install it normally.
There is no exposed recovery on Xperia devices, so all recovery methods are some tricks that load a recovery instead of a normal ramdisk.
The fact that both the kernel and recovery are in the same image is the same on the Galaxy SII. Although stock kernel had a recovery there.
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MohammadAG said:
There is no exposed recovery on Xperia devices, so all recovery methods are some tricks that load a recovery instead of a normal ramdisk.
The fact that both the kernel and recovery are in the same image is the same on the Galaxy SII. Although stock kernel had a recovery there.
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Oh I see!
thank for your help

[Q] Recovery for CM11 kitkat

Guys i am new here, i am looking for a recovery to flash kitkat rom. on my previews device i just only need cwm zip then flash for recovery. in there device as i read you need kernel or something before flashing cwm (im not sure sorry. ) my phone galaxy n7000 was new, i need you advice guys and can you guys give me the link for cwm for kitkat. thanks in advance.
ANDROID-000 said:
Guys i am new here, i am looking for a recovery to flash kitkat rom. on my previews device i just only need cwm zip then flash for recovery. in there device as i read you need kernel or something before flashing cwm (im not sure sorry. ) my phone galaxy n7000 was new, i need you advice guys and can you guys give me the link for cwm for kitkat. thanks in advance.
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If you are on stock rom, flash philz kernel first and reboot to recovery , flash Raw kernel and reboot recovery and flash KK rom with gapps.
treacherous_hawk said:
If you are on stock rom, flash philz kernel first and reboot to recovery , flash Raw kernel and reboot recovery and flash KK rom with gapps.
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2 kernel? Is that a permanent recovery?
Flash phils kernel using stock recovery?
Can i flash kk without rooting my phone? Can i ask for the link. Thanks for the reply:thumbup:
ANDROID-000 said:
2 kernel? Is that a permanent recovery?
Flash phils kernel using stock recovery?
Can i flash kk without rooting my phone? Can i ask for the link. Thanks for the reply:thumbup:
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Yes permanent recovery.
Yes flash philz kernel in stock recovery. Do the factory reset and wipes in philz recovery. It will root your phone too but only till you flash another rom with or without root.
You can flash omnirom with gapps and don't flash superSU wouldn't have root.
Google for philz kernel n7000 and Raw kernel R4.
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Thanks a lot bro....:thumbup: I'll just look in development section it is there right?:what::beer:
ANDROID-000 said:
Thanks a lot bro....:thumbup: I'll just look in development section it is there right?:what::beer:
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I mentioned google, easiest way out.
Philz kernel: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=philz+kernel+n7000
Raw kernel: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=raw+kernel+n7000

[Q] remove philz recovery

hi every body
i want to remove philz recovery
i use stock 205 rom on my xperia T with root & recovery
can you help me please????
hi
as far as I know u should flash ur Stock ROM with flashtools.
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hesbah said:
hi
as far as I know u should flash ur Stock ROM with flashtools.
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but i don't wanna lose my current rom & data
Why would you want to remove recovery? There is nothing you'll gain with that...
But you can flash a kernel that has no recovery added to your device. Make sure you use one of the 4.3 kernels. Not sure if there are any without recovery and with root though...
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Mad Marty said:
Why would you want to remove recovery? There is nothing you'll gain with that...
But you can flash a kernel that has no recovery added to your device. Make sure you use one of the 4.3 kernels. Not sure if there are any without recovery and with root though...
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thanks but i don't have stock kernet but flashed stock rom without wipe & exc. every thing except kernel but don't have any effect !!!!!
Are you using back normal CWM?
peter-k said:
Are you using back normal CWM?
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No I don't need recovery for A while
ali414 said:
thanks but i don't have stock kernet but flashed stock rom without wipe & exc. every thing except kernel but don't have any effect !!!!!
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I don't know why you're trying to remove the recovery, it makes no difference at all. If you had searched first in the Philz Recovery thread, you would have run into this, which tells you how to remove it.
But then again, if you flashed stock FTF ROM, then you have stock kernel. Just uncheck all of the "wipe" check boxes, and exclude all except the "kernel", and you'll get the stock kernel. Or you can extract the kernel.sin itself with 7zip or probably WinRar from the FTF, and flash that in fastboot mode.
As a recommendation, flashing a ROM without wiping /data and/or /system is, IMO, a bad idea. You can always backup/restore your data with apps like Titanium Backup.
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Antiga Prime said:
I don't know why you're trying to remove the recovery, it makes no difference at all. If you had searched first in the Philz Recovery thread, you would have run into this, which tells you how to remove it.
But then again, if you flashed stock FTF ROM, then you have stock kernel. Just uncheck all of the "wipe" check boxes, and exclude all except the "kernel", and you'll get the stock kernel. Or you can extract the kernel.sin itself with 7zip or probably WinRar from the FTF, and flash that in fastboot mode.
As a recommendation, flashing a ROM without wiping /data and/or /system is, IMO, a bad idea. You can always backup/restore your data with apps like Titanium Backup.
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thank you very much man my problem has been solved
verty thanks again.:good:

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