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Could anybody post some sample photos from the kaiser camera at maximum quality settings?, maximum resolution, best jpeg compression...
thanks!

pepeto2001 said:
Could anybody post some sample photos from the kaiser camera at maximum quality settings?, maximum resolution, best jpeg compression...
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http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/

eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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Very good quality.

eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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They are not bad at all. Colors seem a little faded though. Oh well, it's a cellphone!

eva_d said:
http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/
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Eva_d, the new photos are better than the initial ones (the ones yo uploaded to modaco forum), could you try a macro photo?, or some photos with the camera holded firmly to very near objects?, and a recorded video?
Thank youuu very much!!!!

pepeto2001 said:
Eva_d, the new photos are better than the initial ones (the ones yo uploaded to modaco forum), could you try a macro photo?, or some photos with the camera holded firmly to very near objects?, and a recorded video?
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Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.

eva_d said:
Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.
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That macro pics are very good, I'm beginning to think that the initial photos that werent as good as paul(modaco) samples was because of not holding the camera firmly until photo was done... isnt it?... I'm talking about imag0005, imag0006...

Nice pictures and good quality (focus/resolution).
A scan of a letter would be a other good indicator for the macro function (focus/resolution).
Maybe you can take one more photo of e.g. an advertising letter
or of a journal/magazine with text?
Thanks!

Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?

pepeto2001 said:
Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?
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I must say that kind of keyboard is really convenient, I was using Nokia E61 for almost 2 months as a primary phone, and actually I liked it. But I'm back on board with WM platform.
Btw. I've uploaded example video - sorry for rotation, I did it from a mobile holder in my car. I've also uploaded close-up of texts, as requested - a little blurry tough, I should have done them from more distance.

the video looks really good... the macro shots... maybe there wasnt enought light, this phone cameras have a big shutter lag, this is the time since you press de button and the photo is really done, then, it is really important to hold steady the "camera" till the photo is on screen..
Thanks for your photos again!!

Is 320x240 the highest resolution?

Here some of my "masterpieces"
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great photos, they look very good!!!, any photo with faces?, in a crowded street or something similar..

eva_d said:
Macro pics just uploaded (note: adjusted white balance). IMHO they are pretty good! Video - don't have yet, maybe tomorrow.
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Quite impressive for a cameraphone. I can't believe what I'm seeing actually.
Although http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/IMAG0039.jpg shows that the debayering algorithm used by the phone is CRAP. "maze" patterns like those seen in the sky are a known issue with the simpler interpolation algorithms. Has anyone created a camera app for HTC phones that can save raw sensor data to be given to an application such as dcraw?

pepeto2001 said:
Eva_d, I've seen in the photos you also have a nokia with the keyboard "always visible", do you feel this kind of keyboard (always on) to be better than on the tytn that you must "expand" it all the time?
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The slide-out keyboard has major form factor advantages (phone is smaller and keys are larger), but there are plenty of times I miss my Treo 650's non-slideout "always-there" keyboard, especially when dialing.
Palm has stagnated a lot, but the one thing where they are way ahead is in terms of "non-stylus" operation. Strange that there is a Smartphone Edition of Windows Mobile but many of its improvements are not in the version for phones with a touchscreen.

Entropy512 said:
Quite impressive for a cameraphone. I can't believe what I'm seeing actually.
Although http://klamstwo.org/evad/stuff/kaiser/samples/IMAG0039.jpg shows that the debayering algorithm used by the phone is CRAP. "maze" patterns like those seen in the sky are a known issue with the simpler interpolation algorithms. Has anyone created a camera app for HTC phones that can save raw sensor data to be given to an application such as dcraw?
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Sadly coolcamera doesn't work with Kaiser for some reason.
http://www.ateksoft.com/features.html
I was usually getting better pictures with coolcamera on any HTC phone.

This is a Sample Photo:
Enjoy
Nadavi

wow!, last photos are very good, they show the quality of the camera!!

One more. I did tweaked parameters a bit.

Quick question. Please read :X

Ok, So the camera's 3.2 mega pixel and the video recorder records pretty low res.
Would it be possible to edit the recorder so that it can record higher res/better quality?

Or is there any apps or console commands to change this

Unfortunatly the camera is very poor and nothing will fix it. Thats all there is too it.

Ok, Well that didn't answer my question.
Any the camera isn't poor it works great, Its a bit crappy in low light but still it looks awesome and better then a 5mp camera phone from samsung.

Frito37 said:
Ok, Well that didn't answer my question.
Any the camera isn't poor it works great, Its a bit crappy in low light but still it looks awesome and better then a 5mp camera phone from samsung.
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I actually have to agree with this as I've had the G600 and that camera SUCKED no matter what PhoneArena says. I noticed i would only use the G1 for pictures so i got rid of the 600

I took a picture of my eye and then shooped the hell outta it. (I added alot of the spots and wrinkles :X)
This is a resized/croped version, Hell you can see the g1 reflection in my eye.
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Its a nice camera!

Anyone? I still would like this answered

nice fake :-D

your question was answered in post 3 but ill repeat it for you.
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Unfortunatly the camera is very poor and nothing will fix it. Thats all there is too it.
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Ok you must not be able to read.
I'm not asking about quality of the camera.
Im asking if its at all possible to make video RECORDING better or higher res.
And what do you mean by nice fake?
If ur implying the pictures fake, Its not at all fake and was taken by my g1.

It depends alot on bandwidth of memory in the device. I dont know if it is possible right now to make a better/higer quality video recorder. If Google creates API's that take advantage of the full potential of the graphics chips we may get a better camcorder app.

I updated to hero and it seems to have a bit better video recording
but thats because of the codec it uses.

xsnipuhx said:
your question was answered in post 3 but ill repeat it for you.
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Seriously, read the freaking thread before saying something stupid.
As for the question, I'm sure a developer could create a new app for higher resolution video recorder because it has been done on other devices. Try requesting it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446769

just2good4u3434 said:
Seriously, read the freaking thread before saying something stupid.
As for the question, I'm sure a developer could create a new app for higher resolution video recorder because it has been done on other devices. Try requesting it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446769
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Thanks.
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No, and the reason is:
A still camera has a longer exposure time and can dedicate more light overtime for each picture. A video has to a expose an image 30 times a second, so in order to expose properly the camera must take many pixels from the ccd and group them together as 1 pixel reducing image size for video. (I could be done by reducing FPS, but that will only go so far.)
And there is also issues with video format standards and the G1 ability to play back video to consider as well.

Heck, even my Canon 5D Mark II can only record video at 1/10th of the resolution it captures still images at. It does video at 1920x1080 or 2,073,600 pixels, whereas still images are captured at 5616x3744 or 21,026,304 pixels.
I think people expect far too much from a phone that has a camera that probably cost $15 to manufacture (the camera part - not the whole phone).

No I dont exspect it to do better i just wondering if it could.

Is there any possibility to improve the camera on OB?

all the pictures are blurry and the videos taken with the camera stops eventually for half a second (I guess this is because of the stock sdcard).
Is there any possibility to improve the camera performance to get clean pictures?
Thank you in advance,
Haitzo

I've no problem with my camera (good picture) or for video recording (except strange ration for 720p).
I think it's maybe your LG black who has defect ?

I agree with guyTam

I mean with not good light conditions, all the pictures are blurry. I have read the same problem on other users. The video issue is probably because of the stock sd card.
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haitzo said:
I mean with not good light conditions, all the pictures are blurry.
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That's with all phone cameras. They only work in perfect conditions. Sensor is too small for quality photo taking. Maybe with some Carl Zeiss, yes, you will get some nice looking photos.
Does that happen when you take landscape photos or with closer objects too?
I had similar problems with video recording but since started to use NOVA ROM, I don't any more. I have stock SD card.

No problems taking photos to landscapes, just in interiors and night pictures. I am using Pays rom, do you recommend me using nova? I am reading the thread and I thinks is still a little bit buggy?
Thank you

They both work better than stock. Tried both, I like Nova ROM more because of longer (by a lot) battery life. I don't play games so I don't know if they perform different speed wise. There is some bug with SD card but that's all.
If there will be some update for camera app, it will be from LG in next update (I hope). I don't think that anyone else can make any tweaks for stock app. Maybe some other app with filters like unsharp mask in Photoshop could do the trick.

quyTam said:
I've no problem with my camera (good picture) or for video recording (except strange ration for 720p).
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that's what i've noticed also... whenever i take videos and play them on the phone's video player, it looks fine, but when i transfer it to my laptop it looks kinda weird.
btw, the 5mp camera takes very nice stills. best one i had so far.

yeah because the lens sensor is too small; ƒ, shutter speed, can't be compared to real camera & the preview is only 4 inches resized to 800x480 obviously it looks good on phone, for excellent result you may not move/shake at all while taking a shot (if it possible, use a tripod). if the outdoor light is not enough... it can't be helped. ISO adjustment just makes your result even worse. here the example for outdoor shot from my phone:
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not too good for a camera but good enough for camera phone

lesp4ul said:
not too good for a camera but good enough for camera phone
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You are perfectly right

the aspect ratio of the videos recorded needs to be fixed, im surprised that LG hasn't fixed this after so long.
would be epic if devs managed to fix this before LG does

yeomond said:
the aspect ratio of the videos recorded needs to be fixed, im surprised that LG hasn't fixed this after so long.
would be epic if devs managed to fix this before LG does
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And the video format should not 3gp. The encoded results is horrible. Blurred, grainy, and awful audio quality.
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lesp4ul said:
And the video format should not 3gp. The encoded results is horrible. Blurred, grainy, and awful audio quality.
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I agree this one....the video format should be mp4.

I dont know what I did, But i just installed the stock rom after removing Nova. And surprisingly, the camera is taking awesome clicks. No speed lags for shutter/review. Aspect ratios seem fine for videos. And the video quality is amazingly improved.
Did someone just mention that Nova has better battery life ? What about pays ? hows the battery life on that ?

Asus Nexus 7 camera versus iPad 3 frontal iSight photos, what do you think?

Hi community this is my first thread open, sorry for my quite bad english but I'm not american ..
I would propose you 6 shots take by me: 3 by the my Asus Nexus 7 camera with Modaco app and 3 takets by my iPad 3 and know what you think!
Let's start!
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I have come to the conclusion that....
They're both only good for video conferencing.

veeman said:
I have come to the conclusion that....
They're both only good for video conferencing.
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You missed the fact that they both suck
Why are the ipad pictures a quarter the size? Does it have a significantly lower resolution or something??

irlanda3 said:
Hi community this is my first thread open, sorry for my quite bad english but I'm not american ..
I would propose you 6 shots take by me: 3 by the my Asus Nexus 7 camera with Modaco app and 3 takets by my iPad 3 and know what you think!
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I agree with markj338. The quality of the pictures from both cameras seems relatively poor, but that is to be expected. It was hard for me to tell if either was better but I would lean toward the N7. (I'm a little biased. What can I say?)
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You missed the fact that they both suck
Why are the ipad pictures a quarter the size? Does it have a significantly lower resolution or something??
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The pictures are almost the same size when I'm viewing them. I don't know why the iPad pictures are small for you.
Sent from my Paranoid Nexus 7

The iPad pictures are smaller for me also. And I also agree the camera is only good for conferencing. N7 does look a little better to me as well.

Why iPad 3 photos are smaller?
iPad 3 has frontal VGA Camera at 1.3 MP and pictures are at resolution 480*640p (send via mail and also imported by iPhoto it's same quality) while N7 camera is at 1.2 MP but pictures are at 1280*800p. So in forum you can see them in differently size.
Flash is not a problem, both haven't that.

Errm they are only webcams.....
What did you expect?
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irlanda3 said:
Hi community this is my first thread open, sorry for my quite bad english but I'm not american ..
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Uder is right, but you do need to scrub up on your Geography.

CJHolderUK said:
No but you are ****ing ignorant.
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Hey hey theres no need for that...
Back to the ACTUAL disscussion the N7 blows the iSight out of the water even for a 1.2mpx ffc that isnt supposed to be taking pictures in the first place it does a relatively good job . Thanks for comparison.

You should have resized the Nexus 7 images to the same as the iPad 3 for a fairer comparison. :good:

They look pretty similar to me. Though the camera isn't really meant for taking shots like these, so the test doesn't say much, they're really for face-to-face chatting.

The iPads color seemed washed out
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irlanda3 said:
Why iPad 3 photos are smaller?
iPad 3 has frontal VGA Camera at 1.3 MP and pictures are at resolution 480*640p (send via mail and also imported by iPhoto it's same quality) while N7 camera is at 1.2 MP but pictures are at 1280*800p. So in forum you can see them in differently size.
Flash is not a problem, both haven't that.
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If you're running a comparison, the way the photos are presented matters a helluva lot.
Since this is annoying the hell out of me, I've fixed this for you.

Ok sir, no problems.
The differents sizes was another point to discuss, N7 photos resized at 640*480 can remove something in quality but ok

Camera Thread

Thread for posting pics and videos and discussing the camera and its abilities. Definitely interested in low-light still shots featuring motion.

Stay tuned. I'm going to deliver some awesome photography in this thread.

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Stay tuned. I'm going to deliver some awesome photography in this thread.
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Saw a Reddit post that the camera is not true 2x optical zoom, but 1.5x optical zoom with added scaling. Can your shots also speak to this and whether or not it actually matters?
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/6iksgn/what_the_op5_doesnt_have_2x_lossless_zoom_its/
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Oh man, saw the XDA comments on camera with the super blurry puppy pic in what looked like decent lighting:
there can be inconsistent delays between pressing the shutter button and actually taking a picture, leading to missed opportunities (pronounced in puppy or baby pictures)
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https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5-xda-first-impressions-upgrade/
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Here's a scene from my hostel room, the first picture is normal, second was taken with the "2x" mode and the last was taken with op3 running aosp, 10 minutes after the first photos, so it's not apples to apples comparison
Edit: If there's demand, I can take more photos tomorrow afternoon when I get home

No OIS on the OP5 and camera quality is only a little better than the 3T. What a disappointment!

You don't need OIS to take great photos. Helps of course. More so in lower light. I will let you know what I think soon.

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You don't need OIS to take great photos. Helps of course. More so in lower light. I will let you know what I think soon.
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It doesn't have the Pixels amazing EIS so videos will be affected also. The 6Ps videos were horrible because it didn't have OIS.

Much prefer OIS but The lack of EIS on 4k video recording is a deal breaker for me, no stabilisation is horrible on any video recording.
Do you this this could be added later with a software update.?
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You don't need OIS to take great photos. Helps of course. More so in lower light. I will let you know what I think soon.
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OIS or EIS is mainly for video recording without it videos are horrible to watch back, there is NO excuse why EIS is available for 1080p but not 4k video recording.

Until I see the results myself, i.e. tested it in my hands, thats when I'll critique it correctly. Results speak for themselves as they say.

Makrilli said:
Here's a scene from my hostel room, the first picture is normal, second was taken with the "2x" mode and the last was taken with op3 running aosp, 10 minutes after the first photos, so it's not apples to apples comparison
Edit: If there's demand, I can take more photos tomorrow afternoon when I get home
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Looks like taken through a glass window seeing the ghost indoor lamps reflecting in the pictures.

Just tested the camera.
1st image is bokeh effect
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2nd image is 2x optical zoom, would be rude not to get my civic in the picture

Kahun said:
Just tested the camera.
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Take more photos of that VXR mate! <3 Of course with OP5

KamilKiri said:
Take more photos of that VXR mate! <3 Of course with OP5
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I will get one when I'm leaving work in about 2h

Can someone shoot a 4k video while walking for example ? I have an OP3T right now, and the lack of OIS is a real deal breaker for me ... Plus the EIS is not available for 4K videos

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Take more photos of that VXR mate! <3 Of course with OP5
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As requested

Thanks @Kahun , nice cars! Thats my one but I took this shot on my S7. Can't wait for my OP5 tomorrow.

KamilKiri said:
Thanks @Kahun , nice cars! Thats my one but I took this shot on my S7. Can't wait for my OP5 tomorrow.
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Good to see a fellow petrol head xD that photo looks so sick I need to take one like that for my civic

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As requested
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They look OK pics. Better than the 3T but not as good as the flagships today.

Al3xxxinho said:
Can someone shoot a 4k video while walking for example ? I have an OP3T right now, and the lack of OIS is a real deal breaker for me ... Plus the EIS is not available for 4K videos
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https://youtu.be/KAqm5L_lGzY
Crazy not to have OIS.