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Hi all,
So, it was posted at the end of last month that cmonex was willing to lend her expertise to helping address the video driver issue. However, she needed access to a Kaiser to do so.
Now I have heard a lot about her abilities across the fora. I am all for people's efforts to raise awareness and force HTC to address this (see my other post below) but I am also keen to give her a chance to see what she can do.
All it needs is for about 25 people to donate £10 each and we can buy one to send to her. I am happy to organise this, with a purchase via Ebay. However, I am not able to put up the whole amount myself. Also if we club together to fund this, if it doesn't work out, no-one has lost a large amount.
I would purchase it on Ebay and post the auction link here so that all can see the money has been spent as intended.
Post below if you are willing to contribute and once we have enough volunteers, I will identify a suitable auction. Please only post if you are truly willing to part with the money. I know there is the bounty fund but suggestions to use some of that to fund this purchase have fallen flat, and I think we need to organise this properly.
Of course, no one could reply and I'll feel quite embarrased at this post! (Mods, I might call on your pity to remove this if that happens!!) But I figure it's worth a try - if we all do what we can, maybe we can conclude this issue.
PS Don't bother posting to say what's the point. I know we 30days to return, no-one forced us to purchase. I am extremelly happy with this phone and would only consider selling if there was another product exactly the same, only with hardware acceleration support! Just want to get the most from the device we were given. I realise HTC never promised h/w acceleration, and that the chipset just has the capacity. But surely the spirit of XDA-devs is to try optimise the experience we get from our devices?!
I'm in for $20 US
Thanks. No-one else keen to pursue other options? I have confirmed with cmonex that she has not yet got a TyTN 2 to work on...
im in for $25 USD
I'm in for $20 USD
I'll chip in £10
In for $20 USD
As long as people can confirm this is a reputable deal with some chance of success, I am in for £10. I (and I am sure many others) would be reassured if a mod was involved in this thread.
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Count me in for $30 US... as long as we can verify that's he'she is not just trying to get a free Kaiser.
$20 US. Plus some letters to make the post long enough.
Criminy.
$20 here. (and perhaps the chance to be one of the first test dummies?)
refurb tilt?
i know i dont have a premier account, but ive been hearing about people getting tilts for $149.99 which is pretty cheap. Maybe thats an option as well?
We need a two year contract for that.
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We need a two year contract for that.
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not really, depending on the agreement between at&t and the company.......u can do a "device only" upgrade several times a year, some even have the privilege of unlimited upgrades.
Fisha21 has a few posts, some questions & others answers so he looks pretty genuine to me (plus he's British so stiff upper lip and fair play old chap ).
I don't have a problem putting in a few quid for this, but I think it might be better to contact Chainfire (as a focal point) and offer the services through his website so we can be publicly seen to be:
a. Disgruntled with HTC.
b. Prepared to take action against HTC.
c. Prepared to find our own solutions - even if this involves costs over and above our original purchase price.
This might even highlight to HTC that we could work with THEM to get a solution which avoids bad publicity, pissed-off-never-to-return customers and ultimately unlocks the real potential of the Kaiser.
ach2 said:
Fisha21 has a few posts, some questions & others answers so he looks pretty genuine to me (plus he's British so stiff upper lip and fair play old chap ).
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Indeed.
I just commented last night on another thread that there was a lack of interest in this thread - looks I am being proved wrong. That works out to about £84, using XE.com to convert USD to GBP. I will lay down £30, which gives about £114 so far.
I fully agree that people need to know I am not just trying to get a free TyTN2! I can post a photo of mine to prove I already have one. Or I am more than happy for a mod/Chainfire to get involved/ be a front person/ takeover...whatever works. I just want to pursue all available options rather than relying on HTC choosing/being forced to help us out.
I did not suggest linking it to the Class Action website as I thought it might be better to keep the two separate. Not sure how it works legally if we get someone to develop software without HTC's involvement. Perhaps if something comes of it, then we can link it - otherwise stay under the radar?
EDIT: Besides, it is thanks to this site that my TyTN2 is running as well as it does - I don't want to get barred from here for scamming members! Where will I get all my cab, ROMs and general software goodies?!
How about this: Put up the paypal account so we can start filling it up. If we can get $7000 pledged, people will probably happily instantly pay anything between 1 and 10 EUR if it increases the chances of us getting decent drivers. 350 people donating 1 EUR shouldn't be to hard to achieve, right?
Even if nothing came out of it, I wouldn't mourn over my euro
Im not dissing this idea, just telling another way to think about this:
The bounty is so big now, that i would think anyone who thinks she or he could possibly pull this off, could buy the Kaiser with their own money.
Anyway if there is no success, selling the Kaiser would bring most of the money back to he or her...
I am certainly not saying that I am going to try and solve this - just trying to facilitate things!
Just thought it would be less of a loss, if things don't work out, if lots of people donate small amounts of money, rather than one person shelling out £300 (although I'm not sure we'd actually get 350 people donating even just 1 Euro).
Also, with someone (very busy) having offered to help us out with this, it seems rude to say "Yes please, but buy your own device to work on". Know what I'm saying?
No-one has to donate to this at all - if there aren't enough people interested, then the idea stops here. However, I am working on setting up a reliable method of collecting the money, so people can be happy it's genuine.
Also, bear in mind this is not likely to be a quick fix, especially as Cmonex is also working on other things (and has a life!). This being the case, if it didn't work, I don't think the TyTN2 would be worth as much at that point, so I doubt the initial outlay would be recovered - hence the thinking that multiple small donations would be better.
Yes, I understand thet buying the phone isnt that big of a deal compared to the problem, but there is also that 7000USD bounty. Thats not small change if someone is able to do it solo.
I would imagine if someone thinks that he or she is able to do this, investing few hundred on a phone what you can sell after, wouldnt be the obstacle in it.
If people want to buy the phone its ok, but I dont know if it really would be necessary...
Hello!
I left my night shift job last month and still don't have a job. I'm actively looking for a job, but even then I won't make it to my first pay at this pace.
Is there any way I could make a few bucks at least for gas in the meantime, just so I don't reach the negative balance?
hey sorry about that better times will come.. in the meantime I'll give you my advice and this one comes from personal experience(yes I've had a few rough times, who hasn't?)
Last time I was short on the "thing you use to buy potatoes"(sounds better in portuguese) aka money, I sold something(s) that I had and was not making use of, like my PSP for example. Broke my heart to let it go but you gotta do what you gotta do.
The point is, we always keep things we don't use anymore because we think "well I might be needing this some day" and probably will need that thing again but until then there are more important things one might need.
hope this helps
I have been out of work for 6 months...
are you handy around the house? why not post your talents online (painting, wallpapering, cleaning) on free classified postings...
I lost my job in february due to a work injury, and I was physically unable to do most work with out the use of my left arm. I have healed since then but stopped receiving disability pay in october. It has been 10 weeks and unemployment still has yet to come through and help me out.
I also have sold off things that were luxury items like my ATV and an engine I had built sitting around in my garage. A friend of mine supplements his unemployment doing odd jobs he finds off craigslist and I have helped people move and cut firewood for cash. Hoping the economy picks up locally so i can get back to work soon.
Good luck and look everywhere. Craigslist is a good place to start.
what response have you received from the unemployment office?
Have you gone to them?
If you have, did you show the letter stating when disability payments would start and/or end?
They may be waiting from a response from your previous employer...
I don't get unemployment cheques, but I'm getting a job internview this morning. Thankfully, I don't have many financial responsabilities (college student here), but I could use a few bucks just to close the gap 'till I get a job.
As for putting gas in my car... I got rear-ended yesterday, total loss, and 5 minutes later Staples calls for a job offer!
N1c0_ds said:
I don't get unemployment cheques, but I'm getting a job internview this morning. Thankfully, I don't have many financial responsabilities (college student here), but I could use a few bucks just to close the gap 'till I get a job.
As for putting gas in my car... I got rear-ended yesterday, total loss, and 5 minutes later Staples calls for a job offer!
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CA-CHING!!!!!!!
I can already feel your neck stiffening up and a slight loss in feeling both of your pinky toes!!!
Not really, the car took it all so I'm feeling fine, but still. Now I have to get another car with what the insurance company judges my car is worth (360 000 km, but in better condition than anything that mileage).
Trouble likes company
N1c0_ds said:
Not really, the car took it all so I'm feeling fine, but still. Now I have to get another car with what the insurance company judges my car is worth (360 000 km, but in better condition than anything that mileage).
Trouble likes company
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There are lots of sites that pay you to fill in serveys, you only get a couple of dollars each but do 10 a day thats 20-30 dollars suppose lol
Just make sure that the company you represent isn't from Nigeria...
Dang it I hate this laggy keyboatd!!!
Hey so I keep having constant problems with my G1... I want to revert it back to stock firmware and then send it in to T-Mobile for a different phone. Down anybody know if they'll let me get like a BlackBerry cuz I'm tired of Android... thanks.
Well, I feel sorry for you, failing to see the beauty of Android, but I guess we all have our own preferences. Unfortunately, Tmo won't let you trade it in for a different phone. They will replace it with the exact same one if it's faulty. I had to really push the issue once before just to get them to let me have the same phone in a different color. But, I guess you could always trade it in, and sell the refurbished one they send you on ebay, and put that towards a BlackBerry. The 9700 is very, very nice (for a non-touchscreen device with a proprietary, completely non-customizable OS full of antiquated code).
t-mo has a 'LEMON' policy. If you have continued issues with your phone (3 returns) then they'll offer you other phones. If you're pushy they may give you the option for an upgrade. A friend of mine had problems with his G1 and was pushy enough to get the MT3G at upgrade price. It's a lengthy process, but if you're wanting another phone, this is what you'll want to do.
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t-mo has a 'LEMON' policy. If you have continued issues with your phone (3 returns) then they'll offer you other phones. If you're pushy they may give you the option for an upgrade. A friend of mine had problems with his G1 and was pushy enough to get the MT3G at upgrade price. It's a lengthy process, but if you're wanting another phone, this is what you'll want to do.
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I hate it when people give this sort of advice. As someone that works as a cell phone salesman, these are the worst and most BS customers we deal with. My phone keeps breaking, give me a new one for free! I will just keep *****ing until I get my way because I am a jackass that can't not break my phone and think I am owed the world!
This isn't what he wants to do at all, since if you ***** enough like this, they will cut you off, like totally cut you off and refuse to give you service. Plus, it is customers like this that drive costs up for everyone else. Gotta recoup the lost money on giving you another $500 phone for $100, and since we aren't recouping it off them because they ***** and demand an upgrade before we have broken even, we gotta jack prices up so we recoup faster...
It takes, on average, 18 months to break even on a smartphone customer.
pjcforpres said:
I hate it when people give this sort of advice. As someone that works as a cell phone salesman, these are the worst and most BS customers we deal with. My phone keeps breaking, give me a new one for free! I will just keep *****ing until I get my way because I am a jackass that can't not break my phone and think I am owed the world!
This isn't what he wants to do at all, since if you ***** enough like this, they will cut you off, like totally cut you off and refuse to give you service. Plus, it is customers like this that drive costs up for everyone else. Gotta recoup the lost money on giving you another $500 phone for $100, and since we aren't recouping it off them because they ***** and demand an upgrade before we have broken even, we gotta jack prices up so we recoup faster...
It takes, on average, 18 months to break even on a smartphone customer.
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well said
So i'm making this thread to vent..and ask for advice from fellow XDA'ers
basically my mother planned a trip to visit her parents in china for 20days, but she plans to bring 10,000 CAD and spend it on..well she doesn't even seem to have a idea what she is going to spend her money on.. Now 10,000 CAD isn't that much money.. but the issue comes from the fact that my family is paying mortage, my parent's salaries aren't very high..they are just about enough to cover the mortage and save a few hundred bucks a month.. and from what i'm hearing from my dad it seems that 10,000 cad is all there is in the account..so it seems like a stupid move to take out most if not all of the money out of the bank for a 20day trip, not to mention the fact that she already has a place to live in china..
10,000cad is roughly 60922.30 yuan btw
of course i wouldn't be worried if my mother was a bit more financially intelligent.. but there have been a lot of times when she bought fake "brand name" stuff for an extremely high price.. knowing that theres a lot of that crap in china i'm quite worried
so ya..hopefully you guys would give me some inputs on how to talk her out of being an idiot..
Wtf? Suggest to her she might have trouble carrying that much money with her through customs...
That's not a lie either, here you would get stopped with that much cash... And rightly so.
Failing that, what about the risk of robbery? I wouldn't take that much money with me... And I'm presumably slightly larger and more intimidating looking than your mother...
10k is just silly...
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Wtf? Suggest to her she might have trouble carrying that much money with her through customs...
That's not a lie either, here you would get stopped with that much cash... And rightly so.
Failing that, what about the risk of robbery? I wouldn't take that much money with me... And I'm presumably slightly larger and more intimidating looking than your mother...
10k is just silly...
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she told me that i have no say in this since i don't have a job(that is true, in some ways) ..
i'm kinda trying to get her to tell me why she would even want to bring that much money to begin with.. but she seems to be in a locked down mode..-.-
and yes..there are actually a lot of theives in china too.. my issue is that nothing i say get through to her.. i think it could be the fact that she's turning to her 50s that's driving her crazy.. for example
she recently tried to get my dad to invest in some middle of nowhere condos that have not been sold despite being up for sale for more than 2 years now.. i tried to talk her out of it back then with no luck, thankfully we didn't have enough money to invest in that place or we'd be in a lot of **** right now.. but this bringing the entire bank account back home crap seems to get to me, considering the fact that it's entirely possible that she succeed and food/services cost 2-5 times less than prices here(after you convert the currency, of course..)
also about bringing 10grand into china..she doesnt plan to bring cash, but she intends to use one of those overseas transfer service..
Overseas transfer services? That seems like a silly idea. I don't know what the fees are, but even if it's 1% of the transfer amount, that's 100 CAD, which is substantial (to me, at least).
Does your mother intend to give some of the money to your grandparents in China? I mean, it is customary in Chinese culture for the children to support their parents.
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Overseas transfer services? That seems like a silly idea. I don't know what the fees are, but even if it's 1% of the transfer amount, that's 100 CAD, which is substantial (to me, at least).
Does your mother intend to give some of the money to your grandparents in China? I mean, it is customary in Chinese culture for the children to support their parents.
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i understand if she wants to give her parents money, most definitely.. in fact i expect her to be giving away most of that money.. but the thing is.. we are still paying for the darn mortage.. we barely save a few hundred bucks a month yet she intends to take out the entire bank(that we saved up, at least).. which sounds very stupid to me..
woo
talked her out of the crap by telling her that she's going through a difficult time and that if she does this we could have the potential of losing the house
Just hope your mother is good at bargaining and doesn't buy american/foreign brand names, cuz that's just stupid.
$1 gets you a reply
Does anyone else find it major BS that only s6 edge+ and note 5 customers get access to the free wireless charging pad or flip case?
Idk if its just me, but this really got under my skin. I mean i paid $600 for a Samsung phone too.
I agree mate, I find it annoying too... I was under the impression I bought a flagship device from Samsung this year, but apparently not. It's no way to retain customers, that's for sure.
At any rate, with the lack of support from the financial industry, I wouldn't have been able to claim one regardless. Apparently a confirmed launch partner doesn't mean anything. Maybe Samsung Pay will eventually work with the little guys, like Chase and Capital One...
Well I paid original price of the 128gb model. How do you think I feel? This is why Samsung android phones lose their value and apple tends to keep it.
I feel the same way. Not that I need either giveaway, but why just the other two phones? My first Samsung phone... disappointing.
I emailed Samsung and all I got was a "sorry" and "keep an eye for another promotion on another time for another phone" answer.
how are you guys upset and/or surprised about this? this discussion was had with the 50 dollar off promos of the original S6/edge a few months back.
you bought a flagship device right out of the gate.* ANYONE who doesn't realize "I'm going to pay top dollar and get less than those who wait" needs to get their head checked.
This occurs in any and all fields of revenue but even moreso with technology. When something big and fancy comes out that people want, it costs the absolute most upon initial release. (not only that but itll have the most bugs to work out too) Duh?
then, as the uproar and demand starts to die off, theyll:
A. throw out goodies (50 dollars off, free netflix, stickers even!)
B. Drop the price bit by bit/offer rebates/trade ins as time goes on
C. Create new "versions" of it (the new S6+/Edge+, Note 5, etc) which I'll add we OBVIOUSLY already knew theyd do considering nearly all cellphones do this now.
This is supply and demand, economics, basic business at work. Don't like it? Stop throwing money at them the moment phones come out to be the latest and greatest and wait till the sweet deals start appearing in return for not being brand-****ing-new.
*Also Don't hesitate to the point where whatever phone you get has completely lost its steam and theyre pushing a new device.
Be too early and you pay to be the newest. Be too late and you've missed the bandwagon. Deals appear after the instant-gratification herd has gotten their fix but before they're done milking it.
Again, this happens quite literally with -everything-, ESPECIALLY tech and gadgets.