Video reviews, now organized by date.
03/09/2014 - Marques Brownlee - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Impressions!
03/09/2014 - Btekt - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 hands on - IFA 2014
26/09/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Unboxing
27/09/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 In Depth Part 1: Fingerprint
28/09/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Front Facing Wide-Angle 2K
29/09/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Adaptive Fast Charging
30/09/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Benchmarks - (Thanks @emix)
30/09/2014 - Android Authority - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Unboxing and First Impressions!
01/10/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 + 128GB micro SDXC SanDisk Test
02/10/2014 - Android Authority - Samsung Galaxy Note 4: S Pen
02/10/2014 - TacticalMissions - Galaxy Note 4 Ultra Slow Motion, 4K, 16 Megapixel Camera Test (Thanks @TacticalMission)
03/10/2014 - Android Authority - Multitasking
03/10/2014 - UNDERkg - All the Galaxy Note 4 side by side
04/10/2014 - GSMArena - Hands on
05/10/2014 - The Daily Note.Net - S-View Cover
05/10/2014 - Android Authority - Full Review
06/10/2014 - MsBlackoreanlady - One week after
07/10/2014 - ThePapiGfunk - Gaming On The NEW Samsung Galaxy Note 4! [HD]
07/10/2014 - Danny Winget - Nice review (thanks again Emix)
11/10/2014 - PhoneArena - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Review
11/10/2014 - DetroidBORG - Samsung Galaxy Note 4: Unboxing & Review
15/10/2014 - PocketNow - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Review: The Best of What's Big
17/10/2014 - Btekt - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 speed sketching!
17/10/2014 - MobileTechReview - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Review
17/10/2014 - Flossy Carter - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Unboxing
23/10/2014 - Galaxy Note 4 Unboxing and First Impressions!
24/10/2014 - Well, not exactly a review (nor english) but we can see the Dual SIM slots here
Wow! The fingerprint works pretty good. I was worried about it. That is the only feature i likes on Apple devices. But this is very good now.
JoganJani said:
Wow! The fingerprint works pretty good. I was worried about it. That is the only feature i likes on Apple devices. But this is very good now.
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Agreed, seems better than on Galaxy S5. But, well... would be even better if we could just rest the finger on it instead of scrolling (like on iPhone) but still pretty neat.
joelteixeira said:
Agreed, seems better than on Galaxy S5. But, well... would be even better if we could just rest the finger on it instead of scrolling (like on iPhone) but still pretty neat.
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I guess if samsung copied that idea apple would try to sue, so samsung were left to try something else.
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I guess if samsung copied that idea apple would try to sue, so samsung were left to try something else.
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It's possible RCJ89 but I don't know for sure if Apple could sue for this... Motorola Atrix had fingerprint sensors years ago and I think that the improvement on the way it "reads" it's a natural evolution. But anyway, they sue for everything.
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It's possible RCJ89 but I don't know for sure if Apple could sue for this... Motorola Atrix had fingerprint sensors years ago and I think that the improvement on the way it "reads" it's a natural evolution. But anyway, they sue for everything.
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Apple is sue master (seuing machine ; ). They can sue for anything. I saw they were sueing for mere scrolling effect. They sew for icon pattern, Search feature etc.
If apple's sell is down...or competition is hard, then apple fires from sue machin.
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Apple is sue master (seuing machine ; ). They can sue for anything. I saw they were sueing for mere scrolling effect. They sew for icon pattern, Search feature etc.
If apple's sell is down...or competition is hard, then apple fires from sue machin.
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True fact! They not even know the meaning of innovation anymore. :\
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Thanks Emix, updating the original post with this new video.
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Why does the Note 3 destroy the Note 4 in several of these benchmarks??
Low FPS on -screen is expected, but off-screen? There's something wrong
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Low FPS on -screen is expected, but off-screen? There's something wrong
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The benchmarks used are all pointless, except Antutu. If you want to test the GPU no benchmark beats 3D Mark (The physics test is also great for testing the CPU speed).
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The benchmarks used are all pointless, except Antutu. If you want to test the GPU no benchmark beats 3D Mark (The physics test is also great for testing the CPU speed).
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Hope you're right! Gotta wait and see, but this lack of information even after S. Korea's release is killing me.
New video on first post guys. 128GB MicroSD Card :good:
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The benchmarks used are all pointless, except Antutu. If you want to test the GPU no benchmark beats 3D Mark (The physics test is also great for testing the CPU speed).
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DelBoy, who has an enynos version, posted the score of 16.239 on 3D Mark, which is less then the 17~18k from S5 (S801) and far behind the 19k from S5 "Prime" (S805).
What now? Maybe we should start considering that the 5433 isn't that great, at least for gaming.
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DelBoy, who has an enynos version, posted the score of 16.239 on 3D Mark, which is less then the 17~18k from S5 (S801) and far behind the 19k from S5 "Prime" (S805).
What now? Maybe we should start considering that the 5433 isn't that great, at least for gaming.
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I know, thought the Mali T760 would have been a lot faster (could still be due to unoptimised drivers (the results aren't consistent)), but still the CPU is what matters when it comes to a smooth performing phone.
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Some reviews of LG G3 were stating that SD801 (GPU) was not the optimal driver for running the whole system in QHD! I wonder now what will they will say with Note 4 Exynos GPU which is weaker than SD801 , it is at Note 3 SD800 level instead of SD805 level
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Some reviews of LG G3 were stating that SD801 (GPU) was not the optimal driver for running the whole system in QHD! I wonder now what will they will say with Note 4 Exynos GPU which is weaker than SD801 , it is at Note 3 SD800 level instead of SD805 level
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I had a Tegra 3 device (LG 4X HD) and they had this same optimization bla bla which NEVER came. The phone was fast for the time (2012), but not so good for gaming.
I wouldn't say the GPU is weaker than S801, but it's starting to look like less powerful than S805 for sure.
Do you think after unlocking to 64-bit would increase the GPU performance or this is just a long shot?
I think Samsung intentionally kept the GPU down, probably they will go all out in Exynos 7420. Otherwise can't explain why the kept the memory bandwidth so low. 760 can have upto 16 cores, at 10 core count it should be on par with K1.
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Do you think after unlocking to 64-bit would increase the GPU performance or this is just a long shot?
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The performance may go up but that's for CPU I don't know or expect GPU improvement other than possible future update of GPU drivers.
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I think Samsung intentionally kept the GPU down, probably they will go all out in Exynos 7420. Otherwise can't explain why the kept the memory bandwidth so low. 760 can have upto 16 cores, at 10 core count it should be on par with K1.
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Hey man , that scores you have posted are nowhere near from what I have seen from 2 members here in XDA. And the scores that I found show that it is close to Adreno 330 levels. Samusung should have at least match it close to Adreni 420.
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To see how it stacks up against the competition, I booted up my benchmark test and hit go. On the Geekbench test, it returned a frankly astonishing score of 1,975, putting it just below the powerhouse Galaxy Note 2 and far above the S3. It did similarly well on the CF-Bench test, where it managed to achieve 13,207, again well clear of the S3.
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CNET UK said:
Processor and battery: Though the Nexus 4's data speeds might not be blazingly fast, the 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core CPU makes its internal speed swift and smooth. Graphics-intense games like Riptide GP and Asphalt 7 played extremely well, launching and running with no stalls or hiccups. The games both displayed high frame rates with high-resolution graphics.
Because of the phone's ultrafast CPU, gameplay was crisp, smooth, and fast.
(Credit: Josh Miller/CNET)
In addition, average start time for the handset was about 23 seconds, and it took about 1.82 seconds to launch the camera. Browsing on Chrome was a lot smoother on this device than on the Optimus G for some reason. For instance, scrolling down Web pages was executed much more swiftly.
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The GLbenchmarks scores look promising as you would expect. Quallcomm also has a record of drastically improving 3D performance over time with driver updates, let's hope they do the same with the Adreno 320.
Antutu however doesn't seem like it's a good way to measure the Performance of highend smartphones anymore.
The 3D and 2D scores are totally useless as the test are completely Vsync limited meaning that all new Smartphones score the same.
I also doesn't seem right that the Tegra 3 has a higher CPU score at the same clockspeed.
It's about time someone develops a decent benchmark suite for android.
This shouldn't be a surprise since the power of the Adreno 320 is mainly the SGX 543MP2 and SGX543MP4. So it has half the (GPU)power of the iPad 3, though it's sorta close to the iPhone 5(SGX543MP3). I'm actually surprised that Android phones haven't been using the SGX solution--would've been epic if the Nexus 4 had the SGX Rogue.
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This shouldn't be a surprise since the power of the Adreno 320 is mainly the SGX 543MP2 and SGX543MP4. So it has half the (GPU)power of the iPad 3, though it's sorta close to the iPhone 5(SGX543MP3). I'm actually surprised that Android phones haven't been using the SGX solution--would've been epic if the Nexus 4 had the SGX Rogue.
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HMM Nexus 4 beat Ipad 3 in most of the tests
but in low level benchmark ipad win not sure why
Any quadrant scores please?
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This shouldn't be a surprise since the power of the Adreno 320 is mainly the SGX 543MP2 and SGX543MP4. So it has half the (GPU)power of the iPad 3, though it's sorta close to the iPhone 5(SGX543MP3). I'm actually surprised that Android phones haven't been using the SGX solution--would've been epic if the Nexus 4 had the SGX Rogue.
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Im pretty sure the Gnex and NexusS had SGX's cards
Anyone have the sunspider scores compared to the iphone5? thanks!
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HMM Nexus 4 beat Ipad 3 in most of the tests
but in low level benchmark ipad win not sure why
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You have to take into account that iPhone has a higher resolution screen than the Nexus 4...
Pertaining hentrite
rkantos said:
You have to take into account that iPhone has a higher resolution screen than the Nexus 4...
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No it doesn't?
EDIT: Oh, you probably meant iPad 3
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No it doesn't?
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Im certain he was referring to the iPad 3 that was referenced for comparison.
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HMM Nexus 4 beat Ipad 3 in most of the tests
but in low level benchmark ipad win not sure why
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If we could normalize the iPad3's ridiculous resolution then it would win in every tests--Andantech showed that the Nexus 4 is between the iPad 2 & iPad 3 in terms of power(GPU).
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Im pretty sure the Gnex and NexusS had SGX's cards
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Yes that's correct(including every Galaxy S1 phone aka Hummingbird chips). Though I meant to say that no Android phone has a *modern* SGX model like the 544/543.
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You have to take into account that iPhone has a higher resolution screen than the Nexus 4...
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Yeah if the iPad has a logical resolution then the scores would be different.
Damn that total disappoint benchmarks compared to Exynos 4412 in note 2
my old s2 get 1350ms in sunspider with stock cpu speed + cm10
Edit : WTF my s2 get 1500 point in vellamo
I guess I'm slow. Can someone explain to me how it is that the Nexus 4 and Optimus g are getting such different scores? The only thing I can figure is the kernel needs refining on the Nexus.
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I guess I'm slow. Can someone explain to me how it is that the Nexus 4 and Optimus g are getting such different scores? The only thing I can figure is the kernel needs refining on the Nexus.
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Only thing that can explain it is the hardware is throttled back.
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Damn that total disappoint benchmarks compared to Exynos 4412 in note 2
my old s2 get 1350ms in sunspider with stock cpu speed + cm10
Edit : WTF my s2 get 1500 point in vellamo
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My Galaxy S2 got 1960 in Vellamo
and 1200ms in Sunspider running CM10 and Siyah Kernel,
but I wouldn't be too concerned we already know that the S4 pro is a beast, and what's more important is real world performance,
I guess there will be Android 4.2.1 when the device arrives that will improve Javascript perfomance.
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Only thing that can explain it is the hardware is throttled back.
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or maybe stock kernel is piece of crap :silly:
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or maybe stock kernel is piece of crap :silly:
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This
yahyoh said:
or maybe stock kernel is piece of crap :silly:
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Yeah, that's actually what I was thinking. Bring on that source code!
i remember something when i first saw gnex benchmarks i said WTF this crap then after i bought it and flashed CM9 then CM10 or AOKP with Franco or trinty kernel and damn , u feel the phone then worked with full power
Most likely overheating (thermal throttling). Google should have stayed with dual core.
Samsung 'G906S' appears in benchmark results with 1440p display, Snapdragon 805
The article can be read here.
http://m.androidcentral.com/samsung-g906s-phone-appears-benchmark-results-1440p-display
Looks like this could be a beastly variant of the s5. Thoughts?
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Could be very possible, or it could be faked.
what i am intrigued about is, has there ever been a different variant of a flagship device with differences such as camera and screen size?
Could it maybe be a different line of product like maybe galaxy round 2 or something? :S
There was a benchmark a couple months ago for SM-900S with a 5.2in QHD display, 3GB, Snapdragon 805, etc...so I'm not holding my breath over this latest "benchmark".
I think it' fake. The score is too low.
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S as in Android Silver edition? A reason why we haven't heard anything about the GPE S5? Just throwing that out there
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I think it' fake. The score is too low.
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Qualcomm only just started sampling the 805 chips, so it's only fair that benchmark scores are low. I think it's real, far too many indications were out there for months, and several SM-G900 leaks turned out to be accurate. The reason for no confirmation of the SM-G906 is because, in my view, Samsung is holding out for higher QHD yield and the SD805/A420 to support the high resolution. Hence no announcement just yet. Also, because the S5 was announced earlier than S-series before, there's a larger time gap between the year's top phone and phablet, where the premium series could fit just in, around May or June. It all makes sense.
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Qualcomm only just started sampling the 805 chips, so it's only fair that benchmark scores are low. I think it's real, far too many indications were out there for months, and several SM-G900 leaks turned out to be accurate. The reason for no confirmation of the SM-G906 is because, in my view, Samsung is holding out for higher QHD yield and the SD805/A420 to support the high resolution. Hence no announcement just yet. Also, because the S5 was announced earlier than S-series before, there's a larger time gap between the year's top phone and phablet, where the premium series could fit just in, around May or June. It all makes sense.
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Actually it doesn't. If QC is just sampling them now, you think their mass production will be ready by may or june?
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Actually it doesn't. If QC is just sampling them now, you think their mass production will be ready by may or june?
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I don't see why not, if Samsung, Nokia etc. got their hands on the 805 samples in March, that leaves them 4 months until a June launch to get drivers ready, plenty of time. Early QHD benchmarks ran on SD800 and only recently the SD805 popped up, indicating Sammy got the samples in the past couple of weeks, and they are already running the benchmarks so drivers are in a healthy state.
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I don't see why not, if Samsung, Nokia etc. got their hands on the 805 samples in March, that leaves them 4 months until a June launch to get drivers ready, plenty of time. Early QHD benchmarks ran on SD800 and only recently the SD805 popped up, indicating Sammy got the samples in the past couple of weeks, and they are already running the benchmarks so drivers are in a healthy state.
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At any rate, I don't see why they would just want to create a QHD screen, that brings literally no improvement over the current displays, it just brings disadvantages (more battery use, more CPU/GPU intensive,...). It would be better for them to improve other statistics of the phone.
E.g.: keep 1080p display and soon the 3Dmark benchmarks will run at 60fps with newer SoCs.
Look at it this way: the S5 with Sn-801 SoC will run just as performant as the S5(+?) with Sn-805, and that all because of a screen that draws 60% more power but looks the same.
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At any rate, I don't see why they would just want to create a QHD screen, that brings literally no improvement over the current displays, it just brings disadvantages (more battery use, more CPU/GPU intensive,...). It would be better for them to improve other statistics of the phone.
E.g.: keep 1080p display and soon the 3Dmark benchmarks will run at 60fps with newer SoCs.
Look at it this way: the S5 with Sn-801 SoC will run just as performant as the S5(+?) with Sn-805, and that all because of a screen that draws 60% more power but looks the same.
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While I'm not all that excited about a QHD screen on a ~5"ish screen, ppl. comparing the Oppo Find 7's QHD phablet screen to a Note 3' 1080p did say it's sharper and text is easier, smoother to read. Besides, contrary to logic, there is no correlation between screen resolution and battery drain, the Galaxy S4's, Note 3's and G2's larger-than-predecessor FHD screens are each more efficient than the S3's Note 3's and Optimus G's 720p. So there is no battery disadvantage.
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While I'm not all that excited about a QHD screen on a ~5"ish screen, ppl. comparing the Oppo Find 7's QHD phablet screen to a Note 3' 1080p did say it's sharper and text is easier, smoother to read. Besides, contrary to logic, there is no correlation between screen resolution and battery drain, the Galaxy S4's, Note 3's and G2's larger-than-predecessor FHD screens are each more efficient than the S3's Note 3's and Optimus G's 720p. So there is no battery disadvantage.
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There is a big (read huge) battery difference:
1080p screen: 2.073.600 pixels
QHD screen: 3.686.400 pixels
In other words 78% more pixels.
And you are saying that doesn't drain more battery?
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There is a big (read huge) battery difference:
1080p screen: 2.073.600 pixels
QHD screen: 3.686.400 pixels
In other words 78% more pixels.
And you are saying that doesn't drain more battery?
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I've already said that the larger / higher pixel count S4 / N3 / G2 screen is more efficient than the S3 / N2 / OptG, that's cause the screen area didn't change much (more pixels needing less light to bright it up), while energy saving improved faster than resolution. Which is why the S5 AMOLED is larger, brighter AND more efficient than the S4, which is larger, brighter, higher res AND more efficient than the S3's, which is larger, brighter, higher res AND more efficient than the S2.
So yeah, there is no direct correlation between resolution and battery drainage increase. Whatever effect it may have power saving technology is advancing faster. A QHD AMOLED should do just fine.
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I've already said that the larger / higher pixel count S4 / N3 / G2 screen is more efficient than the S3 / N2 / OptG, that's cause the screen area didn't change much (more pixels needing less light to bright it up), while energy saving improved faster than resolution. Which is why the S5 AMOLED is larger, brighter AND more efficient than the S4, which is larger, brighter, higher res AND more efficient than the S3's, which is larger, brighter, higher res AND more efficient than the S2.
So yeah, there is no direct correlation between resolution and battery drainage increase. Whatever effect it may have power saving technology is advancing faster. A QHD AMOLED should do just fine.
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Until battery tests show up, I'm not going to discuss it anymore, but you will find that it will require a lot more CPU/GPU power to deliver similar quality compared to current devices.
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Until battery tests show up, I'm not going to discuss it anymore, but you will find that it will require a lot more CPU/GPU power to deliver similar quality compared to current devices.
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No need to discuss, I've already told you how it's so. Each year Samsung increased screen size and pixel count (S5 not counting, but it's far better than the S4), and decreased power consumption. They know what they are doing mate, see video playback hours (least CPU intensive screen-on test).
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No need to discuss, I've already told you how it's so. Each year Samsung increased screen size and pixel count (S5 not counting, but it's far better than the S4), and decreased power consumption. They know what they are doing mate, see video playback hours (least CPU intensive screen-on test).
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Still, it's going to require more GPU ticks to give a similar performance than on lower pixel devices.
It's fake. No point in arguing/debating over a fake benchmark. Move along folks. Nothing to see here.
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Still, it's going to require more GPU ticks to give a similar performance than on lower pixel devices.
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Anywhere but heavy gaming it won't show, Adreno is efficient in 2D tasks. Gaming will be affected, but the S5 posted some of the best gaming battery results. Trust me on this, if it comes, and surely with 3000mAh at least, the phone will have similarly good endurance as the latest Sammies.
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There is most definitely a difference in battery life with a bigger screen. You are comparing apples to oranges by comparing last year's models battery life to this year's. What you should be thinking about is would the battery life be affected in the s4 if it was the same specs with an qhd v hd screen? Of course it would, both the processor and the gpu have work harder to power the extra pixels. What would be way cooler would be instead of wasting a years worth of efficiency gains on screen resolution, use those gains for improved performance and battery life. I think those specs are soon going to be the spec war targets.
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QUOTE=djdurban;51669376]There is most definitely a difference in battery life with a bigger screen. You are comparing apples to oranges by comparing last year's models battery life to this year's. What you should be thinking about is would the battery life be affected in the s4 if it was the same specs with an qhd v hd screen? Of course it would, both the processor and the gpu have work harder to power the extra pixels. What would be way cooler would be instead of wasting a years worth of efficiency gains on screen resolution, use those gains for improved performance and battery life. I think those specs are soon going to be the spec war targets.
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Seriously?dont even look at other phones just look at note 3 and yet the s5 outlasts it that means everything,
I don't think so... Maybe that spects will be realeased about Q3/Q4 2014, with the Note 4 (with bigger display of course), LG G3 or Nexus 6.
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http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/18/korean-samsung-galaxy-s5-has-qhd-snapdragon-805
Only for Korean market.
Oh Dear.... soon to be an influx of Samsung haters, saying the usual things like Samsung can go to hell, Samsung betrayed us ect ect ect.
Me i will continue to enjoy my bog standard S5, until i decide next year what to replace it with.
Too bad it's a korean exclusive for now
I still don't see how anyone could be surprised about that.
Or has everyone forgotten about the S4 Advanced LTE-A already?
Honestly people, business as usual...
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I still don't see how anyone could be surprised about that.
Or has everyone forgotten about the S4 Advanced LTE-A already?
Honestly people, business as usual...
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Did S4 advanced have a better screen than S4 ?
Out of interest, will it ACTUALLY be that much/if any faster anyway?
Would be interested if anyone with the tech knowledge could chime in....because it seems to me that the slightly faster snapdragon 805 is probably 'cancelled out' in effectiveness by the fact that the handset is now having to power a quad hd screen instead of standard 1080p.
Thoughts?
I can tell you for a fact that my gf's older macbook pro is snappier in day-to-day ui movements than my newer retina mbp which I'm guessing must be due to the added strain of those extra pixels.
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Did S4 advanced have a better screen than S4 ?
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So?? I don't get your logic.
paddylaz said:
Out of interest, will it ACTUALLY be that much/if any faster anyway?
Would be interested if anyone with the tech knowledge could chime in....because it seems to me that the slightly faster snapdragon 805 is probably 'cancelled out' in effectiveness by the fact that the handset is now having to power a quad hd screen instead of standard 1080p.
Thoughts?
I can tell you for a fact that my gf's older macbook pro is snappier in day-to-day ui movements than my newer retina mbp which I'm guessing must be due to the added strain of those extra pixels.
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There's been quite a bit of discussion in the M8 comparison thread about the impact of QHD on the LG G3. Cliff notes:
- Performance on S-801 took a pretty big hit
- Battery life took a hit
- Display contrast, black levels, and reflectivity all took hits
S-805 isn't a minor upgrade. It and Adreno 440 should allow QHD to perform as well and most likely better than S-801/1080P. So battery life and the quality of Samsung's QHD display are questions left to answer. The M8 thread also has discussion on the value of going from 1080P to QHD which is really pretty limited.
paddylaz said:
Out of interest, will it ACTUALLY be that much/if any faster anyway?
Would be interested if anyone with the tech knowledge could chime in....because it seems to me that the slightly faster snapdragon 805 is probably 'cancelled out' in effectiveness by the fact that the handset is now having to power a quad hd screen instead of standard 1080p.
Thoughts?
I can tell you for a fact that my gf's older macbook pro is snappier in day-to-day ui movements than my newer retina mbp which I'm guessing must be due to the added strain of those extra pixels.
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Performance isn't 'canceled out' since the 805 can handle Ultra HD (4K) screens. The following scteenshot is from Qualcomm's site which summarizes the specs of both the 801 and 805. Snapdragon 805 breakdown
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However, QHD content is currently limited to whatever bloat comes pre-installed from Samsung and wallpapers you can find online . As a result, people can't yet take full advantage of of that high res screen until app developers update their apps and there are very little YouTube videos above 1080p.
3GB RAM vs 2GB in the S5.
Great Samsung. Great.
That phone is a beast. But so is the regular galaxy S5. I don't think ppl should be upset really, its business. If you enjoy your phone then just enjoy it.
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There will be little or no QHD (2K) native content. Commercial content will be 1080p or UHD (4K). That means it'll be up and down scaled which impacts image quality. QHD is a marketing ploy of questionable value. Lots of reasons supporting this in the M8 comparison thread.
This is indeed a good read regarding Snapdragon 805's cpu and gpu power.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8035/qualcomm-snapdragon-805-performance-preview
From there I got couple important points:
The 805 can handle a QuadHD resolution device at the same frame rate and with same performance that an 801 can drive a 1080p device.
It is said to use 20% less power and provide 40% more performance compared to an 800 SoC
The 805 has small (comparatively) cpu boost and significant gpu and video engines boost.
The GPU tests were there. It nailed pretty much everything.
The 805 has HEVC HW decoder, but no HEVC HW Acceleration until the 810 SoC comes out in H1 2015.
I personally did not know what HEVC was. It is actually H.265 codec that provides magnificent video output at much lower bitrate than ax264/h.264 encoded video.
I curiously downloaded Big Buck Bunny 1080p encoded with HEVC that sized only 130 MB. The h.264/x264 encoded video was available at the Big Buck Bunny's official website to download which was roughly 700 MB. The 130 MB file indeed provided great output compared to its regular 700MB variant!
The only thing I´d like in my S5 is 3GB ram. I do not want a QHD display which will only drain extra battery without me even being able to tell the difference.
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The only thing I´d like in my S5 is 3GB ram. I do not want a QHD display which will only drain extra battery without me even being able to tell the difference.
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Why would you like 3gb of ram? Have you ever run out of it on your S5?
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Yeah alot of times, many apps have to reload when multitasking, it´s clearly not as good at multitasking as the note3 for instance.
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Why would you like 3gb of ram? Have you ever run out of it on your S5?
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So true. Someone above wants S-805 because it's "faster." Faster at what? 85% of apps don't use more than two cores according to Qualcomm. Screen transitions and app openings certainly don't need S-805. In every upgrade cycle (720p/S-600<>1080p/S-800<>QHD/S-805) the potentially huge gains in performance and battery life ended up minor because of the resources consumed by the display. Let's see some benchmarks from the SGS5 LTE-A before everyone wets themselves over it. Display quality took a big hit on the LG G3. Let's see how Samsung does.
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So true. Someone above wants S-805 because it's "faster." Faster at what? 85% of apps don't use more than two cores according to Qualcomm. Screen transitions and app openings certainly don't need S-805. In every upgrade cycle (720p/S-6001080p/S-800QHD/S-805) the potentially huge gains in performance and battery life ended up minor because of the resources consumed by the display. Let's see some benchmarks from the SGS5 LTE-A before everyone wets themselves over it. Display quality took a big hit on the LG G3. Let's see how Samsung does.
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Yeah, that's exactly why I asked. I don't think people understand how ram works, they just want more because it sounds good.
Unused ram is exactly that, unused ram. No matter how many apps I've had open at once, I've never reached near 2gb of usage.
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Yeah, that's exactly why I asked. I don't think people understand how ram works, they just want more because it sounds good.
Unused ram is exactly that, unused ram. No matter how many apps I've had open at once, I've never reached near 2gb of usage.
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Same here. And it's a Korea exclusive, I don't know why people are whining.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Yeah, that's exactly why I asked. I don't think people understand how ram works, they just want more because it sounds good.
Unused ram is exactly that, unused ram. No matter how many apps I've had open at once, I've never reached near 2gb of usage.
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That´s because the phone hibernates apps before it ever reaches full RAM usage. More RAM = more open apps which allows for faster multitasking. You´d think this was basic knowledge by now.
I´m sure you all have switched to an open app only to have it reload like it was first opened.
Coming from an iPhone with 1GB of ram I am overly aware of this issue.
And no I do not want the new S5, I just wish Samsung had put 3gb in the S5 in the first place, like they did in the note3.
Galaxy Note 4 SM-910C(Exynos) and Galaxy Note 4 SM-910S(Snap Dragon)
The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 is at last official and the following thing we're holding up for is the official release date.
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The display does not shock us as various leaks had officially uncovered that Galaxy Note 4 would accompany a 5.7inch Super AMOLED displays screen which upholds QHD resolution of 1440 x 2560 pixels.
As we had said before it supports 515ppi. The presentation certainly seems rich and brilliant however the QHD determination does not appear to be the main real motivation to buy for Note 4.
Outline :
Weighing 6.2 ounces, the Note 4 is heavier than the 5.9-ounce Note 3. The extra robustness is at any rate part of the way because of the Note 4′s metal edge, however the back is still a delicate touch plastic. Samsung selected an all-plastic chassis on the Note 3. The Note 4 is likewise somewhat taller and thicker than its ancestor (6.04 x 3.09 x 0.33 inches vs. 6 x 3.1 x 0.3 inches).
Cameras:
The Note 4 steps up the back camera's resolution from 13 MP to 16 MP, however that’s not the only improvement. Samsung added in optical image stabilization (OIS), which is incredible at capturing shots enduring as you zoom in. The organization claims you'll have the capacity to zoom up to 8x and still get a sharp pic.
Samsung has made its phablet more selfie-friendly, boosting the front camera's megapixel number from 2 MP on the Note 3 to 3.7 MP on the Note 4, while conveying a 90-degree wide-edge lens. You can go significantly more extensive than that, however you'll have to enter an extraordinary mode.
Spen:
Not at all like alternate telephones, Samsung's Galaxy Note family likewise offers a stylus, or S Pen, which has additionally been enhanced on the Galaxy Note 4. The new S Pen offers consumers a "significantly more credible pen experience," as per Samsung, and can even copy composition on paper with a wellspring or calligraphy pen.
Battery:
That battery is pretty much the same size as Note 3, however Samsung says it will charge to 50 percent in 30 minutes because of Qualcomm's Quickcharge engineering. That said, I'm concerned the denser screen will lead the Galaxy Note 4 to have shorter general battery life than the enduring Galaxy Note 3.
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because of ARMv8 & 64-Bit processors
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Octa-Cores that work simultaneously
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(i m not sure) better RAM bandwidth!
I prefer Exynos
Not very sure with which version I'll go for, but I seem to like Exynos, due to the HMP and lower clocked companion cores for battery life too
Also I'm to some extent familiar with the architecture of Exynos chips, so maybe it'll come in help while practicing development, but maybe I can learn about the Snapdragons too, the main thing I like about Krait architecture is the per core voltage control and dynamic body voltage adjustment on hardware level.
Is the Exynos better then the Snapdragon ?
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Where is the review ?
SamLayer said:
Is the Exynos better then the Snapdragon ?
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SD is much better when compared to exynos
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Where is the review ?
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Above in the OP lol.
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This time the Exynos 5433 is much powerful and faster as compared to Snapdragon 805 variant. The exynos is capable of running all the eight cores simultaneously unlike the previous version in Note 3. Morever Exynos's LTE modem is of Cat 6 category whereas that of Snapdragon is Cat 4. Exynos is equipped with a 64 bit processor whereas the SD with 32 bit. Exynos also marks higher on the Antutu Benchmark. Therefore 910c is the killer variant this time!
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This time the Exynos 5433 is much powerful and faster as compared to Snapdragon 805 variant. The exynos is capable of running all the eight cores simultaneously unlike the previous version in Note 3. Morever Exynos's LTE modem is of Cat 6 category whereas that of Snapdragon is Cat 4. Exynos is equipped with a 64 bit processor whereas the SD with 32 bit. Exynos also marks higher on the Antutu Benchmark. Therefore 910c is the killer variant this time!
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No, the Exynos has Cat4. while the Snapdragon has Cat6. Also, people are quite skeptical of the Exynos being 64 bit, in spite of the superior performance.
My bad! Yes you are right. ....Exynos is actually Cat 4.....I got confused between C and S. Thanks for the correction
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My bad! Yes you are right. ....Exynos is actually Cat 4.....I got confused between C and S. Thanks for the correction
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No problem, Samsung has a nag for playing with the specs of a single version, so it's bound to get confusing. Here are the 2 possible specs at the moment:
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CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 (SM-N910S), Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450, 32 bit.
GPU: Adreno 420
LTE: Cat6
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CPU: Exynos 5433 (SM-N910C), Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & 1.9GHz quad-core Cortex-A57 (Possibly 64 bit, most likely 32 bit).
GPU: Mali-T760
LTE: Cat4
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No problem, Samsung has a nag for playing with the specs of a single version, so it's bound to get confusing. Here are the 2 possible specs at the moment:
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CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 (SM-N910S), Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450, 32 bit.
GPU: Adreno 420
LTE: Cat6
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CPU: Exynos 5433 (SM-N910C), Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & 1.9GHz quad-core Cortex-A57 (Possibly 64 bit, most likely 32 bit).
GPU: Mali-T760
LTE: Cat4
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Exynos5 (Exynos5433) - 32-bit. Series Exynos6 & Exynos7 - 64-bit
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Exynos5 (Exynos5433) - 32-bit. Series Exynos6 & Exynos7 - 64-bit
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How do we know which one is 64 bit among the exynos versions? What model would it be? I read the Antutu's benchmark tests a couple of days ago before the launching of Note 4. It compared the Exynos and the Snapdragon versions. Exynos was found to be superior. I wonder if same results would be maintained after the official launch?
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Or note 4 would not have a 64 bit version at all?
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How do we know which one is 64 bit among the exynos versions?
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from source code in vger.kernel.org
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Exynos5 (Exynos5433) - 32-bit. Series Exynos6 & Exynos7 - 64-bit
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I thought the same, but it seems that it is really 64 bit. Some information in Geekbench showed an internal "version" code for A57 cores. Maybe Samsung decided to not tell anything about it's 64 bit design because the S805 is still 32bit and they don't want to bother the users that buy the Qualcomm version. Hav read an interesting article about that. Will search for the link
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I thought the same, but it seems that it is really 64 bit. Some information in Geekbench showed an internal "version" code for A57 cores.
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I already know about GB
Maybe Samsung decided to not tell anything about it's 64 bit design because the S805 is still 32bit and they don't want to bother the users that buy the Qualcomm version.
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I think so too
1st Review out from Russia of SM-910C model (Exynos)
http://translate.google.com/transla...dbox=0&usg=ALkJrhhH_KG0kFV6aV7xO0DNHZMnsDIABQ
OIS in action vs GS5:
Improved low light photos, samples in the article. Dynamic range looks good.
GN4 vs GN3:
GN4 vs GS5:
NOTE: The benchmark scores look little less than what we have seen. Nothing to worry. I am sure the Geekbench test he ran is for this result: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/811052
This is the lowest number in the Geekbench database, and rest all others are much higher.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?dir=desc&q=universal5433&sort=score
I don't get it guys... Which one comes with 4G?
I want to buy this phone by pre order at some online store in indonesia, 8.999.000 in rupiah
In the specification tab, they doesn't mentioned 4G.. Only 3G with hexa core(i think its exynos)
Which series comes with 4G?
Thanks
ciklek said:
I don't get it guys... Which one comes with 4G?
I want to buy this phone by pre order at some online store in indonesia, 8.999.000 in rupiah
In the specification tab, they doesn't mentioned 4G.. Only 3G with hexa core(i think its exynos)
Which series comes with 4G?
Thanks
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Almost all the versions come with 4G. I think just the N910H doesn't.
There is no hexacore model, take care.
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Almost all the versions come with 4G. I think just the N910H doesn't.
There is no hexacore model, take care.
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Ohh sorry, i meant octa core. 1.9 GHz Octa Core Processor (1.9 GHz Quad + 1.3 GHz Quad core) and 2.5G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) : 850/900/1800/1900 MHz | 3G (HSPA+ 42Mbps): 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
Really? so the note 4 mentioned above is N910H version? There's no specific processor mentioned, just like that one above...
Hi Guys,
I just got Note 4 yesterday, screen is beautiful, build is good but I am a bit disappointed with the GPU performance.
I know it has the latest and the greatest GPU, but when I do play Real Racing 3 I can feel it lagging and sluggish.
It's the Snapdragon version 910G and the phone is not on powersave mode.
Even my older Nexus 5 runs RR 3 in beautiful detail and smooth graphics.
Leave the RR3, even the overall performance feels a bit sluggish. Probably due to the insanely high resolution of the screen that the hardware can't handle?
Any one else feels this with note 4?
Thanks.
This the opposite of all feedbacks I'm seeing regarding performance and usability. If you have the chance please try side by side with another unit and consider return yours.
Hi Joel,
Thanks for your reply, the device is amazing no doubt. But my only issue is its graphics performance. Not talking about benchmarks but a real test with Real Racing 3, it's lagging ?
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Hi Joel,
Thanks for your reply, the device is amazing no doubt. But my only issue is its graphics performance. Not talking about benchmarks but a real test with Real Racing 3, it's lagging ��
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There is a high chance the game is running in 1080p downscaled anyway. I'm pretty certain that even pushing the high res this GPU has enough power for any game.
I think it's probably just because S805 is still a new SoC so some games not optimized?
I tried rr3 on my exynos version and game is very smooth. Overall performance of phone i dont see any lag at all.
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I tried rr3 on my exynos version and game is very smooth. Overall performance of phone i dont see any lag at all.
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I also just try out at Exynos edition - N910C, it run perfectly smooth, no issue.
Wow then I must be crazy or expecting too much
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I tried rr3 on my exynos version and game is very smooth. Overall performance of phone i dont see any lag at all.
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how abt the contact and phone lag after clearing ram or rebooting phone? i m asking coz i have an option of buying the sd or exynos version.. only downside of exynos i am worried is the availability of ROMS.. SD version will have more roms to choose i guess.. same happened with ma note 3 which was exynos..
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Wow then I must be crazy or expecting too much
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and i thought the adreno gpu was better according to benchmarks..
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how abt the contact and phone lag after clearing ram or rebooting phone? i m asking coz i have an option of buying the sd or exynos version.. only downside of exynos i am worried is the availability of ROMS.. SD version will have more roms to choose i guess.. same happened with ma note 3 which was exynos..
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and i thought the adreno gpu was better according to benchmarks..
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No lag at pretty much instant.
And about gpu adreno gpus always had better scores but mali gpus always give better performance.
I used note 3 both snapdragon and exynos version adreno 330 almost doubled mali t628 in benchmarks but in games again exynos version was better. Snapdragon was better in general use of phone though but this year seems this seems exynos is better in general use too according to this thread cuz my exynos very smooth and fast in general use.
You should try using the QHD LG G3 with an 801. You will see real lag and dropped frame rates then!
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how abt the contact and phone lag after clearing ram or rebooting phone? i m asking coz i have an option of buying the sd or exynos version.. only downside of exynos i am worried is the availability of ROMS.. SD version will have more roms to choose i guess.. same happened with ma note 3 which was exynos..
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and i thought the adreno gpu was better according to benchmarks..
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Wow then I must be crazy or expecting too much
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Actually this time Exynos GPU is much better.
Just installed and it looks fine to me (snapdragon), terrible game though.
I played Asphalt 8 for 20 minutes and until the end the fps were almost 60.
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For the first time players real racing 3 may look fine but I have been playing it on iPhone 5, 5s, Nexus 5 and now note 4. All the previous were great and smooth. But note 4 I can feel a certain frame drop. Especially on bigger maps with more cars.
ASPHALT is not so heavy graphics wise compared to RR so 60 frames there is normal
faisalee said:
For the first time players real racing 3 may look fine but I have been playing it on iPhone 5, 5s, Nexus 5 and now note 4. All the previous were great and smooth. But note 4 I can feel a certain frame drop. Especially on bigger maps with more cars.
ASPHALT is not so heavy graphics wise compared to RR so 60 frames there is normal
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If it too easy to get around 60fps in Asphalt why the S5 Prime just got 46fps and the G3 Cat 6 just around 30fps ??
I will try RR3 later.
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I played Asphalt 8 for 20 minutes and until the end the fps were almost 60.
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Hadn't heard about Gamebench, so thanks for posting that!
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Isn't this more of game optimization issue?
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Hadn't heard about Gamebench, so thanks for posting that!
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You are wellcome.
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Isn't this more of game optimization issue?
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The Adreno should be more optimized because of more devices having it so...
I have just tried Real Racing on my Snapdragon Note 4 and it lags quite badly, not during gameplay but in UI transition. I have never tried Real Racing on any other devices but as a PC gamer, I think the graphics seems quite bad (there isn't any anti aliasing at all). UI transition is especially bad, such as swiping between car models, which look like PowerPoint slides with no animation effect. Touching on menu and items takes like a second to register. Can't say that I am impressed.
Sounds like an optimization issue really, and with Nexus 6 rocking the same HW I can bet RR3 will be getting an update soon to fix this, I wouldn't worry too much, this phone is barely a month into sale, please keep that in mind.