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Kit Kat and Band 4 LTE on Verizon

So I really haven't had any luck yet trying to find an answer to this question. Does anyone know if the Kit Kat OTA on Verizon's Moto X enables Band 4 LTE?

dpw2atox said:
So I really haven't had any luck yet trying to find an answer to this question. Does anyone know if the Kit Kat OTA on Verizon's Moto X enables Band 4 LTE?
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not in the release notes and I figured it would be if they turned it on. for a definitive answer call verizon.

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So I really haven't had any luck yet trying to find an answer to this question. Does anyone know if the Kit Kat OTA on Verizon's Moto X enables Band 4 LTE?
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I was informed my new device will be updatable to K.K. and will indeed have 4-Band LTE. Got a Moto X on its way, should be here monday [11/25th] though so meh.

TKTAB911 said:
I was informed my new device will be updatable to K.K. and will indeed have 4-Band LTE. Got a Moto X on its way, should be here monday [11/25th] though so meh.
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Informed by who? I haven't seen anyone anywhere claim they activated 4 band LTE yet
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Jexx11 said:
Informed by who? I haven't seen anyone anywhere claim they activated 4 band LTE yet
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Whoever it is up in my home town in Northern Montana at the local shop, I called in got a better deal than I could from costco, verizons website, or anywhere else. But I'm in Arizona at the moment, He said I'd pick it up here. But personally I'm not too worried whether I get it or not, I'm usually on WIFI anyways.

developer.verizon.com/content/vdc/en/verizon-devices/pages/mot_moto_x.html
Found this it list band 4 and 13
Sry I don't post much so I can't post outside links yes so you will need to copy paste.

Band 4 is already active at least as of the KitKat update which is what my Moto X is running. I was with a friend on T-Mobile and popped his SIM card into my X and it picked up their LTE immediately and T-Mobile's LTE is only on band 4 so it definitely is enabled. Just a matter now of Verizon rolling out the service.

Is the Verizon Moto X Sim unlocked?

I wasn't really able to find any info online about the Verizon moto x being unlocked. IIRC all Verizon 4G LTE phones come Sim unlocked. Is anyone able to verify? I'm thinking of picking up a new in box Verizon moto x for 250. I just wanted to see if they come Sim unlocked so I could use it on T-Mobile.
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sRs DoLLaR mEnU said:
I wasn't really able to find any info online about the Verizon moto x being unlocked. IIRC all Verizon 4G LTE phones come Sim unlocked. Is anyone able to verify? I'm thinking of picking up a new in box Verizon moto x for 250. I just wanted to see if they come Sim unlocked so I could use it on T-Mobile.
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yes it is sim unlocked. i swapped my mom's att sim card into it no problem.

aldouse said:
yes it is sim unlocked. i swapped my mom's att sim card into it no problem.
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Does it work with T-Mobile LTE?
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biggiestuff said:
Does it work with T-Mobile LTE?
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uhh... something about the LTE bands.. better double check the specs of TMO LTE bands vs VZW LTE bands... you might need too manually enter in the APN info and stuff. there's another thread floating around here regarding that iirc.

sRs DoLLaR mEnU said:
I wasn't really able to find any info online about the Verizon moto x being unlocked. IIRC all Verizon 4G LTE phones come Sim unlocked. Is anyone able to verify? I'm thinking of picking up a new in box Verizon moto x for 250. I just wanted to see if they come Sim unlocked so I could use it on T-Mobile.
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I put a T-mobile SIM in my stock 16GB Verizon Moto x. Here is what works and doesn't.
First off, 4G works! in the South Jersey area and it is Blistering fast, I have exceeded 40MB speed test downloads twice, Several in the high 30s and I am avg in mid 20s. Uploads are averaging 20+/- . Compared to Verizon this is like comparing Fios to 1999 era dial up. the best I ever got on Verizon 4G was 14 download but average between 4 and 9 !
The Network notification switches a lot between 4G, "H" mode, whatever that is, just bars and another which I didn't catch quick enough to read ?
Battery has been amazing compared to my galaxy Nexus, I got 7.5 hours of Actual "Screen on Time" which included some GPS use and an hour of music streaming total phone up time was 34+ hours. How long it will perform like this is anyone's guess, today i got about 6.5 of Screen on time. I hope this inst a trend
Now for the bad news - Using it as a Phone. Incoming calls are fine but, making outgoing is a Pain in the A$$.
When I dial a number, (which is a hassle on this KitKat dialer) it often goes to the home screen or back to the dialer. The Call Fails. I am not sure if my dialer is buggy or its a compatibility problem. the KitKat Dialer on the Moto X is an exorcise in futility. Google are you listening? Why reinvent the wheel. All I want in my Dialer is a Number Pad! and a phone book.
When I Open dialer I see Recent calls up top, the whole middle section says all contacts and is otherwise blank, the bottom has the number pad icon, History and settings dots.
Clicking the number pad icon enlarges the bottom section, which then goes all white and removes the three icons. I have to then click the back arrow and re-click the number pad icon to bring it up the actual dialer. .
At this time I can dial. and then the call always fails on the first attempt. Sometimes it takes several attempts to go through.
When I click send on the dialer the 4G disappears and I am left with just the bars. they come back when call is done but sometimes take a few minutes to do so.
If you Kill the dialer app or swipe it away, coming back to it you will have the same issues when trying to get the number pad (two attempts) if you dont, the number pad will open on first attempt. but the calls will still fail on the first try.
I also cant use the internet when in a call, whether WiFi is on or off. Is this a T-mobile problem? I could use the net in Verizon when in a call when on 4G or WiFi
The Data is set to global mode but I have tried both the other settings. On boot up I get a warning saying the SIM is not recognized which I just swipe away.
I am also having this problem. After making a call, the music player and the phones "volume" aspects cease to work., Meaning, I get no sound out of the phone, Music, notifications alarms etc.. This happens almost every time and the only fix is a reboot
I disabled all Verizon Bloat and a lot of Moto Bloat as well This could be causing some of the bugs? But i have tested several different configurations all with the same outcomes.
Hope this helps and puts an end to the - Will it work or not questions. There seem to be a lot of Net Know it all's that flat out say a Verizon Moto x wont work with a T-Mobile SIM or some other undocumented "fact"

moto x sim lock
Is moto x from ATaT sim locked?Thanks

Milan Ponick� said:
Is moto x from ATaT sim locked?Thanks
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Yes it is SIM Locked. But from what I've read you can buy the unlock code online if ATT wont give it to you.
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Does it work with T-Mobile LTE?
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IN areas where T-Mobile had deployed LTE on Band 4, yes.
You'll also want to take a look at this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578665 especially posts #14 and on..

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Does it work with T-Mobile LTE?
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From what I've researched the Verizon Moto X do not support T-Mobile LTE Band 4. Confirmed from Wikipedia and Motorola: http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all...Verizon/moto-x-developer-edition-verizon.html, and GSMArena: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php, it only support Band 13.

I have the Verizon Moto X and I can succesfully connect to T-Mobile's LTE without any modifications at all but somethings up with the 4.4 rom or radio... when connected to LTE, i cant send SMS messages and when i dial out, the phone totally disconnects (like turning airplane mode on and off) and then u gotta dialout AGAIN before your phone connects to LTE (while it has no data or on E/H)...
there is a work around in this xda thread: > Motorola Droid Ultra > Droid Ultra General > 4.4 and Non-VZW carriers
you have to sacrifice LTE, just hope this gets fixed in the next update (4.4.2?)

eksasol said:
From what I've researched the Verizon Moto X do not support T-Mobile LTE Band 4. Confirmed from Wikipedia and Motorola: http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all...Verizon/moto-x-developer-edition-verizon.html, and GSMArena: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php, it only support Band 13.
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I wouldn't trust Wikipedia 100% because its updated by "users" who may not have all the information.
I have the Verizon Moto X too. I can confirm it DOES support LTE Band 4. And I have gotten LTE on my X when I've inserted my T-Mobile USA SIM. I've also received HSPA+. The Verizon Wireless web site listing for the X also now says "LTE B13/4 700/1700" under specs.
As ozzyGEEK mentions there is a slight problem with the X and a work around is needed. There is discussion in another thread here on XDA with the details. I shared this link already -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578665 start around post #14 of that thread for details and work around.
Initially the VZW X did only support LTE Band 13. It appears Band 4 support was added with KitKat. So its possible Wikipedia and Moto's sites haven't been updated yet.
Adding Band 4 support via Rom/Radio update isn't new for Verizon. They did it for the Galaxy S4 as well. (it initially shipped with only LTE Band 13 support, and Band 4 was added later). Oh, and yes, with my T-Mobile SIM in my VZW S4, I get LTE too. I haven't checked to see if it has the same bug as the X that ozzyGEEK mentioned.

Having trouble with a Verizon Moto X on Tmobile

Hey guys! After doing a little research, I bought Verizon Moto X to use because I read that it's unlocked. I got it new from craigslist for a decent deal. I'm coming from a nexus 5.. I liked it but the feel of the moto x is just amazing. Plus I was always jealous of the active display and always on features.
Anyway, here's the issue.. The phone works brilliantly until 4G comes on. When that happens, data works great, and is blazing fast as usual, but I cannot make calls or send texts. I can receive calls and texts just fine, just can't make them. On everything below 4G there are no issues.
Apparently, since 4.4, you can no longer make new APNs. You can try, but it won't actually save them. For now, I am using an app that accesses the hidden menu to limit the phone to HSPA.
Is there anything I can do or am I better off selling it? Verizon are such ****s.. I don't think I will ever again touch their devices or services again.

Why would u buy Verizon moto for T-Mobile?
T-Mobile moto is unlocked and it supports LTE

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kolyan said:
Why would u buy Verizon moto for T-Mobile?
T-Mobile moto is unlocked and it supports LTE
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It's supposed to be unlocked, it was in the colors that I wanted and it was a great deal. There were T-Mobile ones for sale, but quite a bit more expensive.

I'm pretty sure there was a Verizon Unlocked Moto X and a general unlocked Moto X because Verizon uses different antennas then companies like T-Mobile. Therefore using an unlocked Verizon Moto X WON'T work on T-Mobile or other carriers like Sprint

Bionic22 said:
I'm pretty sure there was a Verizon Unlocked Moto X and a general unlocked Moto X because Verizon uses different antennas then companies like T-Mobile. Therefore using an unlocked Verizon Moto X WON'T work on T-Mobile or other carriers like Sprint
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But it does work.. it just seems like it has problems changing networks when I call.. Like I said, when i disable LTE, everything works perfectly

Mrcojocaru said:
Hey guys! After doing a little research, I bought Verizon Moto X to use because I read that it's unlocked. I got it new from craigslist for a decent deal. I'm coming from a nexus 5.. I liked it but the feel of the moto x is just amazing. Plus I was always jealous of the active display and always on features.
Anyway, here's the issue.. The phone works brilliantly until 4G comes on. When that happens, data works great, and is blazing fast as usual, but I cannot make calls or send texts. I can receive calls and texts just fine, just can't make them. On everything below 4G there are no issues.
Apparently, since 4.4, you can no longer make new APNs. You can try, but it won't actually save them. For now, I am using an app that accesses the hidden menu to limit the phone to HSPA.
Is there anything I can do or am I better off selling it? Verizon are such ****s.. I don't think I will ever again touch their devices or services again.
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When you say 4G do you mean LTE or HSPA+?. The Verizon model does not support T-Mobile LTE. HSPA+ should work

The Verizon model doesn't support UMTS/WCDMA on the main band Tmobile uses which is 1700 Mhz/AWS. So it is likely getting confused when trying to switch between bands to make calls.
At the end of the day it was the wrong phone to buy for your needs.

creman said:
When you say 4G do you mean LTE or HSPA+?. The Verizon model does not support T-Mobile LTE. HSPA+ should work
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I'm getting LTE.. Hspa shows up separately.
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[Q] Moto X Audio Quality/Network Issues - Sprint

Hi everyone.
I'm new here. I belong to other android forums but I'm not finding the help that I need there.
I switched from a Photon 4G recently to a Moto X via the motomaker. I'm on the Sprint network.
I barely had any issues with the Photon 4G. Ever since I've bought the Moto X, I've had one issue after another. The most frustrating one right now is audio quality and network issues.
I've contacted Sprint and they're not having any "new" problems. Compared to my Photon 4G, this phone is awful.
When I talk to people, they don't hear me or say every other word cuts out. I am rarely - if ever - on 4G and have to rely on wifi or just 3G to get by. I've been stranded several times late at night in unfamiliar neighborhoods and can't get an address out of there because the phone cannot connect to Google. It's that bad.
I've done loads of trouble shooting with Sprint and Motorola. In the end, I've had to return 2 Moto X's and I'm on my 3rd (and last) one. I've been in contact with the Motorola engineers. They have asked me a lot of questions about my usage, but have not provided any solutions. I've also sent them links to others on the same phone/network having the same exact issues, but this is not being acknowledged.
I'm wondering if you have come up with some solutions/thoughts on this issue?
I rely heavily on my phone for work/personal use/emails. This phone has handicapped me to the point where I'm ready to jump ship to the Nexus 5 or the LG G2 - both of which I've read have had audio issues as well.
I'm out of idea and at the end of my rope.
Thoughts?

Its probably Sprint, these network vision upgrades they are doing are causing problems in many areas with both voice and data service. I suspect the switch to the MotoX may have been a coincidence. Where are you located?
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someguyatx said:
Its probably Sprint, these network vision upgrades they are doing are causing problems in many areas with both voice and data service. I suspect the switch to the MotoX may have been a coincidence. Where are you located?
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But it isn't happening on my Photon 4G every time I switch back to it while waiting for my replacement Moto X. I'm in Los Angeles.
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Anyone?
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Data on 2014 Moto X Verizon

Currently have 2013 Moto X on 4.4.4. My self and others have expierenced problems with data 3G and4G reception since 4.4.4 update. How is the new Moto X on 4.4.4 for data.

wooddale said:
Currently have 2013 Moto X on 4.4.4. My self and others have expierenced problems with data 3G and4G reception since 4.4.4 update. How is the new Moto X on 4.4.4 for data.
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Had mine since noon Friday. No problems so far.

cam30era said:
Had mine since noon Friday. No problems so far.
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Are you on Verizon? Are you in a strong signal area? I'm in a weak signal area that's why I noticed the difference. Thanks

wooddale said:
Are you on Verizon? Are you in a strong signal area? I'm in a weak signal area that's why I noticed the difference. Thanks
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Yes, I'm on Verizon. I would characterize signal strength as "moderate", i.e. two to three bars on LTE.

cam30era said:
Yes, I'm on Verizon. I would characterize signal strength as "moderate", i.e. two to three bars on LTE.
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I would consider that good compared to mine. Since 4.4.4 I just doesn't seem to grab 4G as well and hold on to it. I can go from 4G to 3G to 1X to no service In walking distance. I know these aren't normal conditions but the phone worked a whole lot better before 4.4.4. I don't want to get the new X and have the same problem. I guess I'll just have to try it and if it doesn't work return it. Its worth the $35 to find out.

wooddale said:
Its worth the $35 to find out.
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You hit the nail on the head.

I have had mine since friday and have had no issues staying connected to 4G where available.

nateilus said:
I have had mine since friday and have had no issues staying connected to 4G where available.
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How is the hand off 3G to 4G?

wooddale said:
How is the hand off 3G to 4G?
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The handoff appears to be seamless. I was in an area what had spotty 4G coverage and it bounced back and forth without any interruption to what I was doing.

nateilus said:
The handoff appears to be seamless. I was in an area what had spotty 4G coverage and it bounced back and forth without any interruption to what I was doing.
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Thanks I was hopping to hear that.