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Hello folks,
I own a Xperia Z since its release, but only recently I bought a dock and a bluetooth headset. Before that, all the time I was opening ang closing the flaps that protect the phone from water. I knew that was not good for those little isolating rubbers attached to the flap, which do the job, but I thought they would take longer to break. Both sim and sd card ports are like new, but the micro usb port and the 3,5mm jack port are damaged, and the water indicator is red =\
Where can I buy new flaps? I want to replace the damaged ones for new ones.
I bought this phone in a travel to USA, because in Brazil it was not lauched, so I can't get the flaps in some Sony repair centre.
thanks
Please, help. I really need a new headphone flap.
Have you tried Ebay, pal?
DrKrFfXx said:
Have you tried Ebay, pal?
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Yes brother, no one found.
paulinodf said:
Yes brother, no one found.
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try either just googling it to see if some online distributor has miscellaneous parts for sale, or check a local cell phone store to see if they have some wrecked one you could buy parts off of
I take it you're replacing the flaps so that you can get service you are not entitled to? There really is no other reason to replace the flaps...
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I take it you're replacing the flaps so that you can get service you are not entitled to? There really is no other reason to replace the flaps...
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The OP didn't say the phone was damaged, only that the water ingress indicators were red.
Perhaps they want to replace the flaps simply to prevent more water from entering and actually damaging the phone.
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kingvortex said:
The OP didn't say the phone was damaged, only that the water ingress indicators were red.
Perhaps they want to replace the flaps simply to prevent more water from entering and actually damaging the phone.
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That's actually a pretty good point hehe. Sorry for jumping to conclusions OP!
The phone is not damaged really... Some water did get inside it, but nothing a night in the rice couldn't handle. It's working fine now... but not water resistant anymore. The little rubbers on the usb and headphone flaps are damaged, so the indicator is red (I don't think they can go white again). I'm using a dock and a bluetooth set now, but it's too late. I want to buy new flaps and replace them myself, that's it.
And no, I couldn't find any yet =[
http://www.etradesupply.com/sony/all-models/sony-xperia-z-l36h.html?p=2
Are you sure it's the flaps and not the back plate?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2304680
New flaps coming with the new housing, and new housing coming with a new LCD+Touch unit wont be cheap pal.
No point to get new housing alone as you going to crack your lcd anyway when you take the battery out.
For you if you really want to change flaps need to get: a parts only unit.
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New flaps coming with the new housing, and new housing coming with a new LCD+Touch unit wont be cheap pal.
No point to get new housing alone as you going to crack your lcd anyway when you take the battery out.
For you if you really want to change flaps need to get: a parts only unit.
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I changed just my SIM flap I have to check the site I bought them off when I get home but there sold and can be changed without taking the housing apart so please don't scare people with UN true stuff
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As a matter of fact I see someone already posted a link you can get all four on etrade for like ten bucks and there's a whole thread about this plus YouTube videos again open easily and cheaply replaced without part phones and housings
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paulinodf said:
The phone is not damaged really... Some water did get inside it, but nothing a night in the rice couldn't handle. It's working fine now... but not water resistant anymore. The little rubbers on the usb and headphone flaps are damaged, so the indicator is red (I don't think they can go white again). I'm using a dock and a bluetooth set now, but it's too late. I want to buy new flaps and replace them myself, that's it.
And no, I couldn't find any yet =[
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You're right they cannot turn white again (at least not on their own), they turn red as a result of a chemical reaction with the hydrogen(?) in the water.
Jonathan2677 said:
I changed just my SIM flap I have to check the site I bought them off when I get home but there sold and can be changed without taking the housing apart so please don't scare people with UN true stuff
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As a matter of fact I see someone already posted a link you can get all four on etrade for like ten bucks and there's a whole thread about this plus YouTube videos again open easily and cheaply replaced without part phones and housings
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About youtube the guy broke the lcd and with his tool scratched the ribbon,which likely makes the audio not working.
Sorry I'm not scaring, I used to do that almost every day... If an small piece of the original flap's white joint still inside, there is no way you can close it properly even if you stuff the new in, because it will be on the way. You need to dismantle the unit to get the broken piece out. there is no spare room inside. At work when we have an xpz with battery change we just order a new LCD+Full housing with it then remove battery and mainboard than fit it in the new housing with a new battery because the Battery 90-95% cracks the LCD when we pull it out. To remove the mainboard we need to take the battery out.The LCD just 2mm thick not even a frame on it, and the battery is glued onto the LCD with a strong glue. That's why when you drop your phone your lcd breaks, not because is a piece of glass rather because the battery breaks it. Consider this i just want to help, not scare. Top of that you not supposed to know any of this info. I only know because i been trained to do it, by a sony tech, as i working in an official service provider for EE.
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About youtube the guy broke the lcd and with his tool scratched the ribbon,which likely makes the audio not working.
Sorry I'm not scaring, I used to do that almost every day... If an small piece of the original flap's white joint still inside, there is no way you can close it properly even if you stuff the new in, because it will be on the way. You need to dismantle the unit to get the broken piece out. there is no spare room inside. At work when we have an xpz with battery change we just order a new LCD+Full housing with it then remove battery and mainboard than fit it in the new housing with a new battery because the Battery 90-95% cracks the LCD when we pull it out. To remove the mainboard we need to take the battery out.The LCD just 2mm thick not even a frame on it, and the battery is glued onto the LCD with a strong glue. That's why when you drop your phone your lcd breaks, not because is a piece of glass rather because the battery breaks it. Consider this i just want to help, not scare. Top of that you not supposed to know any of this info. I only know because i been trained to do it, by a sony tech, as i working in an official service provider for EE.
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No I understand but there changeable without breaking a piece inside I did it plus there's a thread I just popped out my SIM one now because I have a full set,I'm gonna get my girl to record as I do the micro sd one and post it on here you can change them without taking apart the phone or breaking anything or leaving a piece behind I'm not the only one who's done it,There's other people on here also I'm sure if a piece does break then I'm screwed but I've been careful and had no problems
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Ok. No worries than. Good luck. Personally I using an MW600 bt and a DK26 charging dock to free of this problems. And opening the ports only when needed. The SIM tray is a mess, too difficult for Sony to use a trayless design. Bah.
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donottouch said:
Ok. No worries than. Good luck. Personally I using an MW600 bt and a DK26 charging dock to free of this problems. And opening the ports only when needed. The SIM tray is a mess, too difficult for Sony to use a trayless design. Bah.
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Totally agreed and the best way is to use dock and Bluetooth earphones I'm gonna start doing that now that my flaps are new,and thanks for the advice I know you were trying to help,I was just saying it's possible without disassembly if lucky now if a piece breaks I'm screwed again thanks
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Thank you for the info, guys.
I eventually found new flaps on rounded.com and I'm gonna order two today.
Until they arrive, I'll try to learn how to replace them myself...
Here, it can be useful to someone:
http://rounded.com/sony-xperia-z-l36h-micro-usb-cover-black.html
http://rounded.com/sony-xperia-z-l36h-headphone-cover-black.html
See you on the road
paulinodf said:
Thank you for the info, guys.
I eventually found new flaps on rounded.com and I'm gonna order two today.
Until they arrive, I'll try to learn how to replace them myself...
Here, it can be useful to someone:
http://rounded.com/sony-xperia-z-l36h-micro-usb-cover-black.html
http://rounded.com/sony-xperia-z-l36h-headphone-cover-black.html
See you on the road
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Just take your time you'll be fine, most important to get full white strap out,also I realize u only needed those two but the link on the first page sells all four for like $11
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Hello, on another forum I found such a case :
http://screenshooter.net/1584601/veayras
http://screenshooter.net/1584601/atalksx
http://screenshooter.net/1584601/ddrofvu
http://screenshooter.net/1584601/okybuai
At the forum posted that phone normally working. Sony refused to guarantee
What to do with this? I have new phone and can I put my phone in pants pocket ?
Its link to polish forum: http://forum.android.com.pl/f867/krzywy-telefon-dosa-ownie-352418/
I dont understand the problem.. Perhaps you can share some more info since I cant read polish..
My problem: I dont know whether this is a defect in the model, and I'm afraid that it is going to happen with my phone. It is a strange phenomenon.
What is the defect. Like I said I cant read a thing on that website
Can you use google translate? I cant say this better ;(. For me defect this phone is "easy to bend" sorry for language.
Holy cow that's a serious issue if that happens when just in your pocket.
I carry mine only in my pocket too, no case, and its perfectly fine.
Can you post some pics with the phone face down, I would like to see how big the gap is.
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Its not my phone, the difference is about 3mm
How on earth is that possible. A phone that has bend?
I dont know what to do with this phone
Why is did not repaired yet? You cant work with this phone like this?
That is not a normal defect. Return to Sony for Repair or swap. You must wear really tight pants for that to bend
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That is not a normal defect. Return to Sony for Repair or swap. You must wear really tight pants for that to bend
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I don't think it's that the pants were tight, something's wrong with the aluminium I guess. This really don't look good at all..
OK now I'm paranoid, my phone has a slight rock when it's face down on a flat surface. The movement less than a millimetre, so I hope that's just a natural manufacturing variance...
First time in my life I see a Xperia Phone curved!
You better get it to sony center!
no aluminium body can bend just like that if we keep phone in pockets
this is manufacturing defect
is it brought with warranty or without warranty??
because when i got one without warranty, i paid less but it has some serious defects on its body!!
I hope Xperia SP doesn't earn the nickname banana phone.
Of maybe it is Sony showing Samsung and LG how a real curved phone should be?
I'm noticing that my charging port cover is starting to have some issues staying closed. Sometimes it pops up unless I close it in a particular matter. Just wondering if this is something I should be concerned about regarding this phone's ability to be waterproof. Does this happen with all models overtime (Only been 2 months!) and will replacing them compromise the IPX58 certification in any way. I'm kinda disappointed i'm having this issue so soon.
Absolutely you should be worry about it because this can compromise the water resistant option. Is the first time I hear about that so probably not happen to everyone. Check if the rubber inside is not pinch or something like that. Anyway this will not help so you should go tho the store and ask if is covered by warranty, do not panic, even if is not the flaps are cheap and even if you will have pay for it, will be few back only, i know is not fair but ask them first.
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I'm noticing that my charging port cover is starting to have some issues staying closed. Sometimes it pops up unless I close it in a particular matter. Just wondering if this is something I should be concerned about regarding this phone's ability to be waterproof. Does this happen with all models overtime (Only been 2 months!) and will replacing them compromise the IPX58 certification in any way. I'm kinda disappointed i'm having this issue so soon.
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I have this issue, took it to a sony store for the technician to look at it and the final veredict is...not waterproof anymore
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negrobembon said:
I have this issue, took it to a sony store for the technician to look at it and the final veredict is...not waterproof anymore
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Well, they said so but why you did not replaced the faulty flap?
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Well, they said so but why you did not replaced the faulty flap?
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Tried to, but they said it wasnt available
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Have you tried speaking to your network? They may be able to send it off themselves.
Mybe it's only a littledirty with dust and some oil, try to clean it a bit, it helped people with XZ and XZR
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Tried to, but they said it wasnt available
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Look like an excuse, you can buy flaps on eBay and they don't have stock one? Hmmm...
shteren said:
Mybe it's only a littledirty with dust and some oil, try to clean it a bit, it helped people with XZ and XZR
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There's an idea, i'm gonna see if I can find some instructions on doing so.
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There's an idea, i'm gonna see if I can find some instructions on doing so.
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Easy, you don't have to open even the phone to replace them, just pull out the flap from the small hole, be careful to do not cut it so no pieces will stuck inside and then if you get the new flap with a toothpick you put it in.
EDIT: Sorry, I was thinking you want to replace them and not oil them! My Bad! :angel:
..but you can do it in the same way.
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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Man I really don't know.. I don't think you'll face issues even trying to take it underwater, but still if you don't know whether the film cracked too you should try to replace it.. If the asf is ok, then you should be ok bro....
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No....
A crack means no longer airtight.
jonke11 said:
Hey guys, i have a really big question. In my country is hot now, its summer, i all day be in water ant takeing pictures with my brand new Z1, but.... I have a problem, i accidentaly cracked my back glass, not fulli, but just 1 line about... 3cm long. Line starts near sd card slot and ends about 1cm near aux port. Is it still waterproof?
Btw, i have a original protection film.
Sorry for bad english guys, i hope you understand me.
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I...wouldn't try it. I think your phone just became "oh #*&$" accident water proof. ie. if you drop it in the neighbors pool or something on accident you're probably fine, but I wouldn't put the "1.5 meters/30 minutes" part to the test anytime soon.
This also probably compromises any warranty given on the water proofness. If they see that it has a cracked back they could easily use that as an excuse not to repair it under warranty claim.
Just like i thought guys, but i think its still waterproof, because the film helps glass keep in his place, and the edges of the glass is still glued. That crack is like hair, really small. Ill try to take a picture in the evening, because its morningright now.
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That white spot is from fingers, try to see that little line, i circle it
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I really cant see that line without sun shine, because its really small.
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Why ask us at all then if you aren't going to heed our advice anyway?
You sound like you have your mind made up, so what was the point of this thread?
Water will find it's way. If this crack is all trought, it WILL find it's way.
I jus want your opinion guys
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I jus want your opinion guys
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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.
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Well, as an engineer (electrical/electronics with experience in mechanical), my opinion is no, definitely not. I wouldn't risk it.
That being said, it sounds like you have yoour mind made up regardless.
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Really thanks! You really answered my question!
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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')
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I'm still wondering: why shouldn't it be waterproof if the film is COMPLETELY covering the glass crack? I actually don't know if what I just said is true because I can't get a damn nothing from that pic :')
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The film could have scratches or little tears in it itself...
Plus who is to say that the film isn't slightly lifted.
You are betting on a lot on a very thin layer of plastic.
Is it worth the price of a new phone?
It's like when you put beers in a cooler. Wait for the ice to melt and you'll see all the stickers on the beer bootle lift up and float on the water.
Simple physics, water will find the smallest whole, smallest gap, smalest opening and make it trough. That's the reason not all devices are IP rated, most of them don't even bother to manufacture something "tight" enough to get a rating, and even if they do, it's more likely a IPX7, not IPX8 like Xperia's.
Water is strong, and it will find its way.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/discover-more/water-and-dust-resistance/ look guys, Sony xperia z1 ip58
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Yeah guys you're probably right.. The risk is not worth it
As already mentioned here.
It is not worth the risk, you get water in the phone and no warranty, because there is damage on the phone that was not there when you received the phone.
If a phone goes in that has water damage. They clean all the flaps to ensure no debris, then close them, then test the phone to ensure that the phone is watertight at 1.5m for about 30 minutes.
Water in phone = warranty, no water in phone = no warranty. It would be determined that water in the phone had to be lack of care from the user, not keeping flaps clean, closing them properly or even leaving them open.
Further to this, I am certain they would just say the crack in the glass was the issue, again deemed to be user negligence.
I've faced this problem before. I drop my phone on 3 feet high, and crack my front tempered glass protector. And guess what? My phone dead when I submerged it underwater for less than 30s. And yes, water going inside.
if you got air tester machine u lucky but i recommend you bring to sony center
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Hi everyone,
I got my Z3 compact a week ago and all is good, but I just noticed something weird on the edge of the screen, it's like there's a wire or something popping out in the gap between the screen and the frame. This got me wondering if there might be a problem with the water resistance, what do you guys think?
The device is brand new and didn't suffer from any drops or any weird maneuvers, didn't even been tried in water.
Thanks and have a good day.
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looks like a misplaced gasket... try the pressure sensor in test mode, open dialer and digit *#*#7378423#*#*, then service tests and pressure sensor... push oh the screen, if the pressure doesn't change even a little bit, your phone is not waterproof and needs to be sent for repair
p.s. when I say push, I mean apply a reasonable force to the screen, not crack it.. if it really is a misplaced gasket, the pressure will be steady.. if not, you'll notice continuous micro-variations in pressure as you hold the phone in your hand
Actually it rises by 3 or 4 millibars and drops back (to lower value than the original) in two or three seconds.. This means it's intact I guess?
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I have the same problem with my z3 compact. But it's on the opposite side where yours have occurred. I don't know how much it would cost to get it fixed but I assume it would be a little expensive because I do think they have to replace the whole front LCD+Digitizer that comes with it's own adhesive.
But I'm not bothered about it at all because even when it was still intact, I said to myself that I would never put or drop this phone on the pool or water. I bought myself a protector just incase I want to take underwater pictures.
yes, it seems so.
But if you've just bought it, I'd return it anyway and buy another
Did it happen just like that or was it there since you bought the phone?
I agree with you, not gonna expose it to water, but still it sucks that you have a water resistant phone and you worry about water.
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Thanks, I bought it without Sony's garantie because it costs extra, so I don't think they will exchange it. I'm going to keep it since everything else is fine.
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heart_of_life said:
Thanks, I bought it without Sony's garantie because it costs extra, so I don't think they will exchange it. I'm going to keep it since everything else is fine.
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That does not sound right. The manufacturer's warranty should cover defective products. You have to pay extra for that? Mine was repaired under warranty (for a different problem) without paying extra for a warranty.
To me it's seem that the screen is a bit high too on the angle, in mine the glass is parallel or maybe a bit lower compared to the frame, yours seems like the glass is higher compared to the frame, how much is the value of millibar?? 10k+ about??
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That does not sound right. The manufacturer's warranty should cover defective products. You have to pay extra for that? Mine was repaired under warranty (for a different problem) without paying extra for a warranty.
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I'm in France and the system of warranty is terrible , they just cover major dysfunctions of the phone (touchscreen not working, defective camera..), when I asked the store about this today they said it's probably some manufacturer installed tool to help open up the phone in case of repair!! could it actually be this??
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To me it's seem that the screen is a bit high too on the angle, in mine the glass is parallel or maybe a bit lower compared to the frame, yours seems like the glass is higher compared to the frame, how much is the value of millibar?? 10k+ about??
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Actually that's just the protective tempered glass I installed
The value of pressure was around 1004 since I got the phone, today I found it to be 994 but still responding to pressure. Is this normal?
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I'm in France and the system of warranty is terrible , they just cover major dysfunctions of the phone (touchscreen not working, defective camera..), when I asked the store about this today they said it's probably some manufacturer installed tool to help open up the phone in case of repair!! could it actually be this??
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Oh, I see.
No, that is not something to help open the phone. If it were, they would all have it.
It's only been a week, the store should easily be able to exchange it for you. If not, Sony will.
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