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Can the Moto X bootloader be unlocked? I ask this because from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), the bootloader must be unlocked in order to flash custom ROMs. Also, I'm aware that there's a Developer Edition of the Moto X that has an unlocked bootloader. This question is for the standard Moto X, not the Developer Edition. Thanks!
- Shadowz1218
Shadowz1218 said:
Can the Moto X bootloader be unlocked? I ask this because from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), the bootloader must be unlocked in order to flash custom ROMs. Also, I'm aware that there's a Developer Edition of the Moto X that has an unlocked bootloader. This question is for the standard Moto X, not the Developer Edition. Thanks!
- Shadowz1218
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AFAIK, there are some models can not be bootloader unlocked, the AT&T, Verizon, Nextel Mexico. Others are bootloader unlockable.
yghrv said:
AFAIK, there are some models can not be bootloader unlocked, the AT&T, Verizon, Nextel Mexico. Others are bootloader unlockable.
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Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
Shadowz1218 said:
Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Well, in order to flash a ROM, you'll need to have a recovery capable of doing so. In order to flash a recovery, you'll need an unlocked bootloader. Ergo...
The only reason bootloaders get unlocked is so that custom recoveries can be installed. Not just to flash, but also for backing up. Stock recovery doesn't really do anything but factory reset.
Shadowz1218 said:
Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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rockingondrums said:
Well, in order to flash a ROM, you'll need to have a recovery capable of doing so. In order to flash a recovery, you'll need an unlocked bootloader. Ergo...
The only reason bootloaders get unlocked is so that custom recoveries can be installed. Not just to flash, but also for backing up. Stock recovery doesn't really do anything but factory reset.
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You can root and flash roms without an unlocked bootloader. Look at the Development thread, there are root/recovery options for 4.2.2 and 4.4. There isn't much development happening. If anything we're probably going to get stock based roms for the most part.
Shadowz1218 said:
Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Out of curiosity, why is the ability to flash a custom ROM a must-have? I felt that way at first, but many Moto X users (including myself) now believe that a combination of root, Xposed and GravityBox is enough.
Shadowz1218 said:
Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Then get a VZW developer edition.
chaoslimits said:
You can root and flash roms without an unlocked bootloader. Look at the Development thread, there are root/recovery options for 4.2.2 and 4.4. There isn't much development happening. If anything we're probably going to get stock based roms for the most part.
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Well I know root is certainly possible, but how do you flash a rom on the Moto X without using a recovery such as CWM or TWRP?
rockingondrums said:
Well I know root is certainly possible, but how do you flash a rom on the Moto X without using a recovery such as CWM or TWRP?
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safestrap.
charlie-n said:
safestrap.
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There's no safestrap for 4.4 yet, correct?
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charlie-n said:
safestrap.
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But isn't safestrap that weird hack that leaves the original system alone and just sticks another install on the device? I wanted to get a vzw S4 until I learned I'd be stuck with the original bloated OS installed along the one I want (if I'm understanding it correctly)
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But isn't safestrap that weird hack that leaves the original system alone and just sticks another install on the device? I wanted to get a vzw S4 until I learned I'd be stuck with the original bloated OS installed along the one I want (if I'm understanding it correctly)
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Pretty much
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charlie-n said:
safestrap.
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If you can flash a custom ROM with said "safestrap," what's the point of having an unlocked bootloader? What can you do with an unlocked bootloader that you can't do without one?
Shadowz1218 said:
If you can flash a custom ROM with said "safestrap," what's the point of having an unlocked bootloader? What can you do with an unlocked bootloader that you can't do without one?
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You can flash other versions on your phone. I unlocked my bootloader and flashed the Verizon version, just because. I came from a Latin American version of the phone.
RagnaParadise said:
You can flash other versions on your phone. I unlocked my bootloader and flashed the Verizon version, just because. I came from a Latin American version of the phone.
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I don't quite understand what you mean by "flashing other versions on your phone." My question is what's the advantage of having an unlocked bootloader. Also, are there any disadvantages of flashing a custom ROM with a safestrap?
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I don't quite understand what you mean by "flashing other versions on your phone." My question is what's the advantage of having an unlocked bootloader. Also, are there any disadvantages of flashing a custom ROM with a safestrap?
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Normally, it's to allow you to flash a custom recovery, so that you can flash the plethora of zips you can find. The disadvantage with safestrap is what I said above: It's a hack that leaves the original OS on the phone, just sitting there taking up space. You know how the S4's only came with 9 GBs free on the 16 GBs? Well, if I bought a verizon one, I'd have to safestrap CM or whatever on to the phone, so I'd be left with the original TW hog and then lose more space to CM. I mean, if you can deal with that then you're golden. But it is still a disadvantage. And I wouldn't do it (which is why I ended up not buying the S4, even though I really wanted it).
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Normally, it's to allow you to flash a custom recovery, so that you can flash the plethora of zips you can find. The disadvantage with safestrap is what I said above: It's a hack that leaves the original OS on the phone, just sitting there taking up space. You know how the S4's only came with 9 GBs free on the 16 GBs? Well, if I bought a verizon one, I'd have to safestrap CM or whatever on to the phone, so I'd be left with the original TW hog and then lose more space to CM. I mean, if you can deal with that then you're golden. But it is still a disadvantage. And I wouldn't do it (which is why I ended up not buying the S4, even though I really wanted it).
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So if I want to replace the original OS with another ROM I'd have no choice but to unlock the bootloader and use a custom recovery? Also, is it possible that an OTA update could break the safestrap, or stop it from working anymore?
Ok, rather than this unnecessary back and forth, if you have Verizon and "flashing custom ROMS is a must for me" like you say then just get the Verizon Developer Edition which has an unlocked bootloader and be done with it.
LordLugard said:
Ok, rather than this unnecessary back and forth, if you have Verizon and "flashing custom ROMS is a must for me" like you say then just get the Verizon Developer Edition which has an unlocked bootloader and be done with it.
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I was simply trying to understand if there's any practical advantage of having an unlocked bootloader vs. using other methods such as a safestrap. If I can get a custom Moto X at a discounted price on a 2-year contract, I'd much rather go that route instead of paying the retail price for a Developer Edition.
ok so i know there are issues rooting this phone lol. i am on 4.3. is there any way to root it. i want to flash vipers rom.
pitbullmommy45245 said:
ok so i know there are issues rooting this phone lol. i am on 4.3. is there any way to root it. i want to flash vipers rom.
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Install custom recovery TWRP
flash superSU
mb_guy said:
Install custom recovery TWRP
flash superSU
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if i don't have root how can i flash a custom recoverys and flash super user lol. i have heard of firewater but i just need help. im a noob at the htc one lol. i'm not a noob to flashing though.
pitbullmommy45245 said:
if i don't have root how can i flash a custom recoverys and flash super user lol. i have heard of firewater but i just need help. im a noob at the htc one lol. i'm not a noob to flashing though.
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first you will have to bootloader unlock your One.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuIq0gmYpFA
Then you will have to root:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE6F-4KjR9I
Then you can flash your ROM
pitbullmommy45245 said:
if i don't have root how can i flash a custom recoverys and flash super user lol. i have heard of firewater but i just need help. im a noob at the htc one lol. i'm not a noob to flashing though.
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Yes you do need to unlock the bootloader, before you can flash a custom recovery. Rooting comes later. The rom is either rooted or not, you do not need one rom to be rooted to flash another.
raghav kapur said:
first you will have to bootloader unlock your One.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuIq0gmYpFA
Then you will have to root:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE6F-4KjR9I
Then you can flash your ROM
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ok and i just got this phone off of craigslist and i don't have the unlock code. when i do the factory reset it will make the phone locked to att again. is there a free method for the htc one to sim unlock it. i know for the verizon one its already unlocked. and i know theres easy methods for the galaxy phones (s3, s4, note 2).
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ok and i just got this phone off of craigslist and i don't have the unlock code. when i do the factory reset it will make the phone locked to att again. is there a free method for the htc one to sim unlock it. i know for the verizon one its already unlocked. and i know theres easy methods for the galaxy phones (s3, s4, note 2).
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This is NOT the same as unlocking the bootloader. What is your end goal here?
mb_guy said:
This is NOT the same as unlocking the bootloader. What is your end goal here?
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i know lol. i'm not a noob. i just wonder if i'll lose my root. my end goal is to have the phone rooted with viper and have a unlocked sim.
pitbullmommy45245 said:
i know lol. i'm not a noob. i just wonder if i'll lose my root. my end goal is to have the phone rooted with viper and have a unlocked sim.
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Most custom roms are already rooted when you install, You will not loose the carrier unlock flashing roms.
I also notice you are on Sprint, be very carefull to use the right custom recovery and a compatible rom with that device.
mb_guy said:
Most custom roms are already rooted when you install, You will not loose the carrier unlock flashing roms.
I also notice you are on Sprint, be very carefull to use the right custom recovery and a compatible rom with that device.
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i'm not on sprint. i'm on cincinnati bell. i'm using the att version. i think i might hold off on flashing now i'm scared i'll lose my unlock lol. thanks though.
Since Verizon is CDMA, would using SuperCID to write a Verizon CID allow me to flash a Verizon ROM?
StormyNight said:
Since Verizon is CDMA, would using SuperCID to write a Verizon CID allow me to flash a Verizon ROM?
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Short answer: Yes.
raptoro07 said:
Short answer: Yes.
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How would I go about doing this? Do I need to flash a Verizon RUU or custom recovery?
StormyNight said:
How would I go about doing this? Do I need to flash a Verizon RUU or custom recovery?
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First off, why do you want to do this?
Second, flashing ROMs/Recoveries/Kernels for a different device will not work and can possiblly hard or soft brick your device.
Thirdly, If you want to use the Sprint Phone on Verizon that's a tottoally different issue than flashing a Verizon One ROM.
So in short, Do Not Do It.
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First off, why do you want to do this?
Second, flashing ROMs/Recoveries/Kernels for a different device will not work and can possiblly hard or soft brick your device.
Thirdly, If you want to use the Sprint Phone on Verizon that's a tottoally different issue than flashing a Verizon One ROM.
So in short, Do Not Do It.
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Alright, thanks for the reply. Just thought that it was possible due to both carriers being CDMA
Is it possible to flash a different version of the software on the T-Mobile M9. I unknowingly bought the Tmobile M9 and would like to install the unlocked / developer M9 software over it. I hate the Tmobile logo and noise at bootup.
Yeah, download any m9 gsm ROM and flash via twrp
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uzfresh said:
Is it possible to flash a different version of the software on the T-Mobile M9. I unknowingly bought the Tmobile M9 and would like to install the unlocked / developer M9 software over it. I hate the Tmobile logo and noise at bootup.
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Yeah like Rydah805 said, but good luck finding one that has Wi-Fi calling.
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jbfountain said:
Yeah like Rydah805 said, but good luck finding one that has Wi-Fi calling.
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Are there any that have it working? I've tried viper and insert coin and both have it in settings, but the feature itself seems to not work at all, as it never activates.
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Are there any that have it working? I've tried viper and insert coin and both have it in settings, but the feature itself seems to not work at all, as it never activates.
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I don't know of any, but at one time @LeeDroid was going to try to get it working. However, he had a setback with carrier support, and he has had to put it on the back burner for now.
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Hi
I'm too . I wan't to change TMobile firmware to some stock firmware Europa.
Can i do it?
Thanks
vilibrook said:
Hi
I'm too . I wan't to change TMobile firmware to some stock firmware Europa.
Can i do it?
Thanks
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As long as your phone is S-OFF.
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IS there jsut a stock t moblie rom? i have the OTA and cant updated because im rooted.
skruff77 said:
IS there jsut a stock t moblie rom? i have the OTA and cant updated because im rooted.
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Go to this thread [http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-one-m9/general/please-read-rooting-using-twrp-t3069022]. There you will find all the tools you need to return your M9 to stock, so that you can take an OTA. @Rydah805 has put that thread together, and it will give you all the information you could possibly need.
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As long as your phone is S-OFF.
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Are you sure?
vilibrook said:
Are you sure?
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For firmware you need to be S-OFF, too flash a Eu rom, download and flash in recovery.
HTC One M9
Hi, I am trying to convert to Tmobile. I bought Verizon M9 because I got a good deal on it and thought since they are unlocked I could just put my SIM in and be working right away. I can make calls and text message and use internet after adding the APN. But I can't get the hotspot to work, hate the Unknown SIM notification and all the VZN apps. To get my phone as close to Tmo as possible would I just have to follow Captain_Throwback's guide and then flash a Tmo rom, or restore a backup, or RUU? Sorry for the noob question
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Hi, I am trying to convert to Tmobile. I bought Verizon M9 because I got a good deal on it and thought since they are unlocked I could just put my SIM in and be working right away. I can make calls and text message and use internet after adding the APN. But I can't get the hotspot to work, hate the Unknown SIM notification and all the VZN apps. To get my phone as close to Tmo as possible would I just have to follow Captain_Throwback's guide and then flash a Tmo rom, or restore a backup, or RUU? Sorry for the noob question
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I didn't think you could use a Verizon phone on a GSM carrier network, but if you can that's cool. If your phone is working on the T-Mobile network you can unlock the bootloader and root to install a T-Mobile rom, but you will have to check with the Sunshine thread to see if they have it working on Verizon M9's yet. If they do you can S-OFF, and install T-Mobile firmware and rom. Keep me posted on how you do.
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I didn't think you could use a Verizon phone on a GSM carrier network, but if you can that's cool. If your phone is working on the T-Mobile network you can unlock the bootloader and root to install a T-Mobile rom, but you will have to check with the Sunshine thread to see if they have it working on Verizon M9's yet. If they do you can S-OFF, and install T-Mobile firmware and rom. Keep me posted on how you do.
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You could nowadays if unlocked unless they already are
fmedrano1977 said:
For firmware you need to be S-OFF, too flash a Eu rom, download and flash in recovery.
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Hello
I have S-OF,unlocked bootloader,root and latest software
I try to install RUU EU signed, but all the time an error occurred.
Perhaps because of the CID? Maybe we should change the CID?
I need help please
vilibrook said:
Hello
I have S-OF,unlocked bootloader,root and latest software
I try to install RUU EU signed, but all the time an error occurred.
Perhaps because of the CID? Maybe we should change the CID?
I need help please
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Change CID to 11111111, relock bootloader, and try again.
HTC One M9
vilibrook said:
Hello
I have S-OF,unlocked bootloader,root and latest software
I try to install RUU EU signed, but all the time an error occurred.
Perhaps because of the CID? Maybe we should change the CID?
I need help please
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How are you trying to install RUU?
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Change CID to 11111111, relock bootloader, and try again.
HTC One M9
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Relocking the bootloader shouldn't be necessary to run a RUU. I didn't need to.
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Ok
The problem now solved
1. S-Off
2. Bootloader unlocked
3. Changed CID to one of CIDs of RUU
4. Flash RUU signed EU
Thanks for your help!
So... it appears i don't have this option with my verizon variant ... any ideas on how to get this working?
johnp357 said:
So... it appears i don't have this option with my verizon variant ... any ideas on how to get this working?
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What exactly are you talking about? Explain a little more
johnp357 said:
So... it appears i don't have this option with my verizon variant ... any ideas on how to get this working?
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If you want call and text on other devices to work on a Verizon branded device you will have to convert it to an unlocked U1 device by flashing the unlocked firmware. Call and text on other devices only works with unlocked devices. The conversion is pretty stright forward and is explained in other threads if you search.
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If you want call and text on other devices to work on a Verizon branded device you will have to convert it to an unlocked U1 device by flashing the unlocked firmware. Call and text on other devices only works with unlocked devices. The conversion is pretty stright forward and is explained in other threads if you search.
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yeah... I just didn't want the hassle of having to root this phone. I hear the snapdragon version isn't as simple as it was in the past...
johnp357 said:
yeah... I just didn't want the hassle of having to root this phone. I hear the snapdragon version isn't as simple as it was in the past...
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It has nothing to do with rooting. You convert a carrier branded device by using Odin to flash unlocked firmware on the device.
nrage23 said:
It has nothing to do with rooting. You convert a carrier branded device by using Odin to flash unlocked firmware on the device.
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I see. so the only thing that I will not get is further updates from Verizon? all updates to security and software is manually done at that point ?
johnp357 said:
I see. so the only thing that I will not get is further updates from Verizon? all updates to security and software is manually done at that point ?
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You will get all the updates the unlocked gets. No need to manually update.
nrage23 said:
You will get all the updates the unlocked gets. No need to manually update.
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got it. btw. put the stock one in like you suggested. works perfectly. thanks again. i will wait and see if updates notify me. also now I'm curious if leaving it stock will ease up on battery consumption as well.