Request to samsung. Flickering. - Galaxy Note 4 General

Samsung please increase the frequency of the PWM to such values ​​that the amplitude don't drops to zero.
Just make all the same as in the samsung amoled displays of Fly IQ444 Diamond 2 Quattro and Motorola Razr HD, and lg amoled displays of lg G Flex.
This flickering is harmful to the eyes (especially at low light). It appears at 70% (and below) brightness
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The same situation exists in all other amoled samsung smartphones, search "galaxy s3/s4/s5/note etc. flickering"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynHdzrnBxI4&feature=player_detailpage#t=132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdneth_AKKA&feature=player_detailpage#t=130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedde%85amp;v=amuHUv6hGiM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paMb_cgVkug&list=UUB2527zGV3A0Km_quJiUaeQ#t=869
Who are close to the developers of samsung, please show them this post

Can you explain a bit more the problem ?

this guy trolls every new phone thread, and endlessly points out every thing bad HE thinks with the phone..take a look at his forum posts and you will see what I mean..
and, he NEVER wants to contact any phone mfg. himself with these "problems", he expects them to come HERE and respond to him...Geez....

wase4711 said:
this guy trolls every new phone thread, and endlessly points out every thing bad HE thinks with the phone..take a look at his forum posts and you will see what I mean..
and, he NEVER wants to contact any phone mfg. himself with these "problems", he expects them to come HERE and respond to him...Geez....
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What he said.
DisplayMate makes the equipment used to test displays of all kinds across industries. They do exhaustive tests on smartphone displays and the Note 4's is the reigning champ. Even outperforming both iP6's.
Here's their evaluation. Everyone can draw their own conclusions.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm

wase4711 said:
this guy trolls every new phone thread, and endlessly points out every thing bad HE thinks with the phone..take a look at his forum posts and you will see what I mean..
and, he NEVER wants to contact any phone mfg. himself with these "problems", he expects them to come HERE and respond to him...Geez....
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If you do not know about something you always call it trolling?
I always write objectively with facts and proofs

BarryH_GEG said:
What he said.
DisplayMate makes the equipment used to test displays of all kinds across industries. They do exhaustive tests on smartphone displays and the Note 4's is the reigning champ. Even outperforming both iP6's.
Here's their evaluation. Everyone can draw their own conclusions.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm
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I am not writing about the color reproduction.
The fourth time you answer me, and the fourth time you writing not in a subject

sonyfan12 said:
If you do not know about something you always call it trolling?
I always write objectively with facts and Proof
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Why don't you provide some more scientific evidence rather than just posting some random youtube videos (measurements, etc.)? I have never seen an amoled flicker myself so measurements would be great. And I really don't understand what scientific basis you have for saying that any sort of flicker is harmful for the eyes.

maybe if he actually OWNED these devices, his posts would be more credible, but he just posts crap he gleans of the internet, and tried to represent it as actual fact..
not worth bothering with him any more, he is just a troll

Toss3 said:
Why don't you provide some more scientific evidence rather than just posting some random youtube videos (measurements, etc.)? I have never seen an amoled flicker myself so measurements would be great. And I really don't understand what scientific basis you have for saying that any sort of flicker is harmful for the eyes.
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This is the scientific evidence.
Search "PWM flickering", "PWM"
display tests
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/samsung-galaxy-s5.shtml
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/samsung-galaxy-note4.shtml
(in russian)
oled have pwm
http://www.displaymate.com/ShootOut_Part_A.htm
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm

If you praise this device you're fine fellow, if you write the truth you are troll, paid, idiot, etc.

wase4711 said:
maybe if he actually OWNED these devices, his posts would be more credible, but he just posts crap he gleans of the internet, and tried to represent it as actual fact..
not worth bothering with him any more, he is just a troll
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reported

Can you explain to us poor dumb slobs what this means to the average person? Maybe state your case of why you think this is a bad thing? I was under the impression that all lights flicker - alternating current and all that.

sonyfan12 said:
This is the scientific evidence.
Search "PWM flickering", "PWM"
display tests
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/samsung-galaxy-s5.shtml
http://www.ixbt.com/mobile/samsung-galaxy-note4.shtml
(in russian)
oled have pwm
http://www.displaymate.com/ShootOut_Part_A.htm
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm
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Thanks! But how would that affect the battery life? I also don't think it is a large enough problem for most people, as none other than yourself and maybe a few others have reported any problems (think it is basically the same as seeing rainbows on DLP projectors; some see it, some don't).
Also, if the x-axis on that graph is in ms (milliseconds), it is obvious that at worst the display is turned off for 2ms (1/500th of a second), and that is way beyond what a normal human being would be able to notice.
Oh, and I would also like to see a comparison to other displays as most LCDs these days have LED backlights that also flicker; doubt the guys over at Oculus would have picked an amoled display if the flicker was that bad.

dkb218 said:
Can you explain to us poor dumb slobs what this means to the average person? Maybe state your case of why you think this is a bad thing? I was under the impression that all lights flicker - alternating current and all that.
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When there is a total damping to zero it is harmful to the eyes. In the long reading on the average and low brightness appears eye fatigue. Over time can be reduced eyesight. Perhaps there is an impact on the brain and psyche.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/pulse_width_modulation.htm
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1362457985

Toss3 said:
Thanks! But how would that affect the battery life? I also don't think it is a large enough problem for most people, as none other than yourself and maybe a few others have reported any problems (think it is basically the same as seeing rainbows on DLP projectors; some see it, some don't).
Also, if the x-axis on that graph is in ms (milliseconds), it is obvious that at worst the display is turned off for 2ms (1/500th of a second), and that is way beyond what a normal human being would be able to notice.
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of course, eyes don't see it, but such damping is harmful (wrote above), even in the review its written

sonyfan12 said:
When there is a total damping to zero it is harmful to the eyes. In the long reading on the average and low brightness appears eye fatigue. Over time can be reduced eyesight. Perhaps there is an impact on the brain and psyche.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/pulse_width_modulation.htm
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1362457985
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here again, prove to us that you actually OWN these devices; we dont need someone here who just constantly posts negative things you find on the internet, without having a shred of PERSONAL accountability about what you are posting. Anyone can find negative things about anything via google, but unless you can personally vouch for any of crap you are posting, no one here cares or wants to see it any more.
Oh and by the way, I am amused you think that "reporting" me, exposing what you really are is going to gain you any sort of credibility. People here know what you're up to ..

wase4711 said:
here again, prove to us that you actually OWN these devices; we dont need someone here who just constantly posts negative things you find on the internet, without having a shred of PERSONAL accountability about what you are posting. Anyone can find negative things about anything via google, but unless you can personally vouch for any of crap you are posting, no one here cares or wants to see it any more.
Oh and by the way, I am amused you think that "reporting" me, exposing what you really are is going to gain you any sort of credibility. People here know what you're up to ..
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How would it affect to the objectivity?
No proofs only "personal feeling" is better than the tests and research scientists?

sonyfan12 said:
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I wrote the mods about you too. You pick random findings from questionable sources then post them without context solely for the purpose of antagonizing people and goading them in to arguments. You've been run out of every thread you've done that in because it's pretty transparent.
The reason I referenced DisplayMate is that with their mastery of display science if what you posted was in any way relevant they would have certainly caught it. They are credible to me. You are not.

Useless thread is that, but let's hope Samsung will see this thread......................................................................
Until then, Thread Closed.

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I dont think I've ever seen anybody give such a biased review as this, this guy had my blood boiling for a moment.
Take a look if you dare and judge for yourself. Tell me if you can keep your composure...
Star Wars said:
Wow this guy is a dumbass!
I have seen lizards sunbathing give better reviews than this, then again this is the iphone blog so I guess I may have been expecting a little too much since peripheral vision with other electronic devices that aren’t Apple pretty much is non-existent, I guess he can be forgiven.
Great star wars theme impression tho!
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lol best comment ever!!!
who gives a flying f**k about what an Apple-Fanboy has to say about WinMo Devices ?
He can berate our Hardware until he starts bleeding from every orifice, but the iPhone will never be as customizable and extendable than ANY WinMo Phone, period.
Best example is AppStore... you get to pay for second class (and that's really saying it in a nice way) software that only has a few functions which are badly implemented.
Also, you are seeing what kind of Audience Apple is trying to attract when you look at the "Facebook" App.
They should release apps for MySpace, Twitter, StickAm and stuff like that for all the young and hip media-prostitutes out there too.
jadephyre said:
who gives a flying f**k about what an Apple-Fanboy has to say about WinMo Devices ?
He can berate our Hardware until he starts bleeding from every orifice, but the iPhone will never be as customizable and extendable than ANY WinMo Phone, period.
Best example is AppStore... you get to pay for second class (and that's really saying it in a nice way) software that only has a few functions which are badly implemented.
Also, you are seeing what kind of Audience Apple is trying to attract when you look at the "Facebook" App.
They should release apps for MySpace, Twitter, StickAm and stuff like that for all the young and hip media-prostitutes out there too.
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+1
Neither do I give a rats a** but its astonishing how someone can put out that piece of junk (only going as deep as the main menu) and call it a review.
Then again if it's a calculated scheme to increase number of hits to their site, then i guess they have succeeded, can't say if it's the right attention though.
Cant see why the fuss - the review was pretty sh*t but the phone looks like a bloater, its way to thick for my taste and makes my Touch look like its super thin. And his comments about the interface are true - in its pursuit to make eye candy HTC keep making it slower and more error prone. I would never buy an Iphone as i love the customization of the HTC but for your average phone user who does not want to learn anything at all the iphone gives them all they need.
I just can't stand Apple and their Marketing Tactics... they make it sound like they were the first to bring a Smartphone (which the iPhone actually isn't) to the Market that has a touchscreen... and Millions of fanboys actually fall in line and buy that crap.
I'm not saying that Apple Computers are crap, they're good at a few things too, chief among which is "looking good" but did the world really need that overhyped Phone ?
well it's definitely not thin, thats something I can live with, granted all that it does. Guess when there is a phone with all the capabilities of the TP as thin as a diamond with a 5 row keyboard, then we can complain. About the phone being slow, any phone during initial start up process is slow, its not HTC specific.
I don't have beef with Apple, just the fanboys and the fanboy sites!
He compares a TP to a Samsung Instinct for God's sake!!!
I could care less if my Phone was the size of a frickin' cinder-block as long as it does everything I want it to do... it does not have to be slim enough to slide it through underneath a Door.
I'll probably get me an HTC Opal next year or so, with Manila 2D... that thing will make me happier than any iPhone that will ever see the light of day.
What a fool!!!!
Holy **** he makes HTC Fuze makes the most ****ing piece of crap ever made! jajajaja i will make a video review for my hermes and it will be much better than that stupidity useless preview.... Holy **** this makes me hunger!!!
That was actually rather ridiculous. He does make some valid points as to WM's lack of finesse in some departments, but he really seemed to go out of his way to be child-like and/or a douche bag with that phone.
Yes, I tend to use a stylus with my Tilt because the screen seems to be purposefully fighting me, but it's not nearly as bad as he's making it out to be.
"The era of hard keyboards is over"
whatever, I think this review is totaly refering to the guys inteligence. He complains that he dont know how to use the sliding of the pics and music. How is that silly.
LOL
The music of "star wars" is hilarious!!
Hahahaha
origins81 said:
well it's definitely not thin, thats something I can live with, granted all that it does. Guess when there is a phone with all the capabilities of the TP as thin as a diamond with a 5 row keyboard, then we can complain. About the phone being slow, any phone during initial start up process is slow, its not HTC specific.
I don't have beef with Apple, just the fanboys and the fanboy sites!
He compares a TP to a Samsung Instinct for God's sake!!!
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Which is funny, because the Samsung Instinct has the same features/layout as the iPhone.
orb3000 said:
Sorry to disagree with you but that´s not true, hard keyboards will never be substituted, just wait a few months and you´ll see what´s coming...
Respectfully,
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That was not my words, the guy in the review said that, and my coment on that was: "whatever".
That means that I disagree with that statement.
Mikulec said:
That was not my words, the guy in the review said that, and my coment on that was: "whatever".
That means that I disagree with that statement.
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Ohh I´m sorry, my mistake
Cheers,
Wow, that is truly a slap on the neck. He just could be the most annoying thing ever with that introduction. It's a rather childish review if you ask me.
That idiot with his comments is one the biggest stupidities i've seen in my life. If his brain capacity is not high enough (or there at all) to manipulate a pocket pc, he should have never blame it on the device and get himself a Motorola Startak (with the Manual Book and Quick Reference Guide of course!!).
Haha! I bet he still uses it.
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he touches the screen like a cat scratching a tire
the guy is like woody allen reviewing a phone
well, he does have ONE point, the "smoothness" of the phone isnt all that great, coming(him, not me) from the iphone, you shouldn't have to wait for your touch to take effect, for example when he is trying to navigate in HTCalbum. stupid qualcomm CPU's. I'm not buying another htc phone until they use a different processor, I was ALMOST fooled with the TouchPRO, until I saw some videos and heard some input. in some ways its worse and slower than the kaiser.
We need an HTC phone that is as fast as the iphone or faster. I'm really surprised HTC hasn't tried to compete speed wise, it really amazes me...
o, but anyway, about the video.
Yeah he kinda sucks at reviewing. And it's obvious he is a noob to TouchFLO3d lol. he's not grabbing the current tab, he's just sliding on other tabs.

7,000,000,000 people in the world..

..but there were only 3,920,842,735 when i was born! Has nobody heard of contraception?
I was the 78,195,979,093rd person to live since history began.*
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-15391515
Mind=blown?
*not entirely sure what 'history' refers to here. Recorded history? Since the first Homo Sapien? Answers on a postcard..
Meh. The Earth can easily sustain another couple billion before she starts falling apart. And hey if we want to lower the population significantly we can just get rid of India or China.
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DirkGently said:
I was the 78,195,979,093rd person to live since history began.*
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Are you sure about that? I told me that I'm the 3,836,620,365th person which means nearly 75 billion people were born between me and you
Edit: Scratch that - It's me being dumb and misreading the page. I was the 78,061,059,109th person.
Archer said:
Are you sure about that? I told me that I'm the 3,836,620,365th person which means nearly 75 billion people were born between me and you
Edit: Scratch that - It's me being dumb and misreading the page. I was the 78,061,059,109th person.
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Direct copy/paste! LOL!
Contraception people! Use it!!!
I've heard varying estimates over the years of the maximum number that the planet can sustain. Between 12 and 25 Billion are numbers i've heard, before we 'run out of planet'. Some could reasonably say we've already reached that point already!
that's me:
When you were born, you were the:
5,443,677,780th
person alive on Earth
80,596,424,130th
person to have lived since history began
When you were born, you were the:
1,744,890,692nd
person alive on Earth
72,505,844,764th
person to have lived since history began
Damn...ya'll are youngins.
~Jasecloud4
DirkGently said:
Has nobody heard of contraception?
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Apparently not...
Honestly i don't understand why someone wants more then 3 kids.. after 3 kids either the woman should get the tubes tied or the guy should get vasectomy ,
And also parents should take care of there kids and teach them about birth control... the problem is that they don't believe in birth control cause of their religion or they drink too much and forget to wear one or they just say F*ck it and do it anyway even if they don't have a condem
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When you were born,
you were the:5,063,227,422ndperson alive on Earth
80,001,709,065thperson to have lived since history began
I'm still laughing at the line, "when History began".
What does that even mean?
jasecloud4 said:
Meh. The Earth can easily sustain another couple billion before she starts falling apart. And hey if we want to lower the population significantly we can just get rid of India or China.
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The planet regulates itself. Natural disasters and epidemics. Personally i think it's a good thing. I don't like seeing people die but someone has to go, so mother nature cleans up.
Well thats crp! What do us 100< y.olds do
jasecloud4 said:
When you were born, you were the:
1,744,890,692nd
person alive on Earth
72,505,844,764th
person to have lived since history began
Damn...ya'll are youngins.
~Jasecloud4
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Nah...when I was born, I was the only one on Earth. The population was 1
DirkGently said:
..but there were only 3,920,842,735 when i was born! Has nobody heard of contraception?
I was the 78,195,979,093rd person to live since history began.*
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-15391515
Mind=blown?
*not entirely sure what 'history' refers to here. Recorded history? Since the first Homo Sapien? Answers on a postcard..
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Contraception? What is that?
It's amazing to think that the entire world is reliant on a simple premise that we need ever more young people to sustain our race and our economy. It sounds logical but it's a dangerous and unprecedented runaway effect! Look at it like this:
The Welfare system in the US went something like this. "We in power will want to retire when we're old". "Who will pay for that?". "Well, the young 'uns who are working will pay for that. There's less of us and more of them after all, so each of them pays a fraction, which is enough to sustain us few"
Of course that large group of young people grow old and become a large group of old people. An even larger group of young people are now needed to provide for that ever increasing group of old folk. Even an imbecile can see how badly that logic fails. In it's inception there were 40 young folk providing for each of the elderly. Now its almost completely reversed and the state has to make up the difference.
This is what the worlds economy is based on. Illogical math. It's the same with population. We have a runaway but unsustainable population growth. When the same thing happens in a Deer population for example, when the herd becomes bigger than the habitat can sustain, nature will take over and the herd will reduce it's number naturally. Some will starve of course but they will learn over time that it's not a good time to reproduce and birth rates will fall. All species control their numbers in this fashion.
Oh, with one exception, Humans. We're reliant now on ever increasing numbers to sustain us while simultaneously digging a deeper and deeper hole for ourselves. From a socio-economic standpoint we're the herd that's about to outgrow our habitat. I wonder what natural mechanisms will come into play?
Some already have of course. In the civilised world birth rates are falling. Makes sense as people can only afford two, not four children any more. That's a nice natural control. The problem is we now need six to sustain our economic infrastructure. So on the one hand, we're lightening the load on our fragile resources, but we're dooming ourselves to economic calamity at the same time!
Anybody who can reconcile the two and solve both problems at once will probably end up as not only Nobel Lauriete, but as Supreme Leader and ruler of the planet for life!
Have you watched Logan's Run?
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Have you watched Logan's Run?
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All manner of dystopian movies, including that one! I'd be eight years in the grave using that system of population control. If you've read the Stephen King short story, or seen the movie version, 'Children Of The Corn' had the same premise.
The thing is we are kinda living outside of natural controls now. One person i read said that "we no longer evolve as a species, we evolve our tools instead". It's scary but true. The human lifespan was significantly shorter in the age where we had less control over it. Survival of the fittest reigned supreme. If there wasn't enough food to go around, the population stagnated until there were bountiful supplies again.
Now we don't care if there's enough to go around. There isn't, we all know that. But what we have isn't distributed equally. That's the real crime. 10% of the world using 90% of the worlds resources? While the 10% die in poverty?
That my friends is nothing short of ****ed up.
For those who came to this post from a Google search, it has been removed and in its place is a correction based on a new understanding.
That new understanding is the knowledge that macro evolution is a lie. Anything about the universe that contradicts what a certain belief system
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says is false based on new knowledge and understanding.
I apologize for spouting falsehood and haring the belief system
of anyone harmed by what I spouted as truth.
DirkGently said:
All manner of dystopian movies, including that one! I'd be eight years in the grave using that system of population control. If you've read the Stephen King short story, or seen the movie version, 'Children Of The Corn' had the same premise.
The thing is we are kinda living outside of natural controls now. One person i read said that "we no longer evolve as a species, we evolve our tools instead". It's scary but true. The human lifespan was significantly shorter in the age where we had less control over it. Survival of the fittest reigned supreme. If there wasn't enough food to go around, the population stagnated until there were bountiful supplies again.
Now we don't care if there's enough to go around. There isn't, we all know that. But what we have isn't distributed equally. That's the real crime. 10% of the world using 90% of the worlds resources? While the 10% die in poverty?
That my friends is nothing short of ****ed up.
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We'll jump in generation ships and head out into the galaxy.
Or, once mining asteroids takes off, the creation of space stations, think Rama, or Bab5.

Sucks for trolls

tHIS IS GOINg to suck for trolling. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/12/defamation-bill-moves-to-unmask-trolls_n_1588793.html
dligon said:
tHIS IS GOINg to suck for trolling. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/06/12/defamation-bill-moves-to-unmask-trolls_n_1588793.html
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Not sure if this is trolling, or it's just a retarded idea I really don't see this working if it's real though. It could easily be abused either by the trolls themselves or by noobs who feel they're being hard-done by when they're told to search the forums.
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Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
funny article is funny
Isn't it funny how people read a news headline and don't bother either reading the full article or researching the background behind afore-mentioned article.
This is not a plan to clamp down on people posting idiotic comments in an Off-Topic forum. This is aimed at finding and prosecuting the people who post nasty, malicious comments on the Facebook page of a 13 year old girl who took her own life. Is there a single person on this forum who thinks that is acceptable behaviour or who feels that sort of 'troll' should be protected from legal action?
Simon.TS.HTC said:
Isn't it funny how people read a news headline and don't bother either reading the full article or researching the background behind afore-mentioned article.
This is not a plan to clamp down on people posting idiotic comments in an Off-Topic forum. This is aimed at finding and prosecuting the people who post nasty, malicious comments on the Facebook page of a 13 year old girl who took her own life. Is there a single person on this forum who thinks that is acceptable behaviour or who feels that sort of 'troll' should be protected from legal action?
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There was one recently where the guy got prosecuted for "trolling", as it was called. He'd been leaving comments on facebook pages of people who had died, and their family members. But it was posted on here saying "We'd best be careful or we'll get arrested!"
Really not the same thing. I don't think there's many people on this forum that would even hesitate to report that kind of foul behaviour, let alone do it!
I'm pretty sure it would be insta-perma-ban, without warning.
UK news this morning featured a segment on an 'internetz troll'.. he was a short fat fugly old dude with a long pointy goatee.. talk about visual onomatpoiea
Edit: here we go.. Frank Zimmerman, Troll ...
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Simon.TS.HTC said:
Isn't it funny how people read a news headline and don't bother either reading the full article or researching the background behind afore-mentioned article.
This is not a plan to clamp down on people posting idiotic comments in an Off-Topic forum. This is aimed at finding and prosecuting the people who post nasty, malicious comments on the Facebook page of a 13 year old girl who took her own life. Is there a single person on this forum who thinks that is acceptable behaviour or who feels that sort of 'troll' should be protected from legal action?
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It says:
The age of the troll could be over.
Websites might be forced to unmask people who post defamatory statements online.
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So it's not entirely aimed at that Facebook page, it's aimed at the internet community as a whole. Every site there is a troll who posts malicious comments, some are funny trolls & friendly once you get to know them, some will stop at nothing to make people's lives hell.
Websites will not be prosecuted for displaying offensive comments if they help to uncover trolls' identities.
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I think that's abit stupid. Helping to uncover surely must breach the law of privacy?
My thought are,
This is either a really good idea that might help people post with no worries (?)
Or its the most dumbass idea that might get xda closed down....just my thoughts
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Aiwa said:
It says:
So it's not entirely aimed at that Facebook page, it's aimed at the internet community as a whole. Every site there is a troll who posts malicious comments, some are funny trolls & friendly once you get to know them, some will stop at nothing to make people's lives hell.
I think that's abit stupid. Helping to uncover surely must breach the law of privacy?
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I see you quoted but how much of the article did you read in-depth? It's written to suggest that a very high burden of proof will be required for action to be taken. Jazek and the rest of us are safe.
MissionImprobable said:
I see you quoted but how much of the article did you read in-depth? It's written to suggest that a very high burden of proof will be required for action to be taken. Jazek and the rest of us are safe.
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Is M_T_M? I like him
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Queue the music.....
so how many forums and websites and such may get shut down or have their members ratted out if they don't comply.
Yes, just write your friends' names right here in zee book as we discussed. No, no, nozing will happen to them, we just want to ask them a few routine questions.
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so how many forums and websites and such may get shut down or have their members ratted out if they don't comply.
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Who gives a ****? If they aren't willing to pass on the details of somebody that has committed an offence then they should be shut down.
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Who gives a ****? If they aren't willing to pass on the details of somebody that has committed an offence then they should be shut down.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Quite scary to be saying this but ... the voice of common sense and reason
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Who gives a ****? If they aren't willing to pass on the details of somebody that has committed an offence then they should be shut down.
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true but if bills and laws like SOPA ever get passed then this will become common.
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Who gives a ****? If they aren't willing to pass on the details of somebody that has committed an offence then they should be shut down.
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The problem is what an offense is going to morph in to. One day you may get reported for telling someone they are too stupid for the internet.
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The problem is what an offense is going to morph in to. One day you may get reported for telling someone they are too stupid for the internet.
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Ah well that's when things will begin to suck....
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Kill me, I don't think android is perfect

actually this isn't just about android, the same **** happens in forms about everything from TV series, movie stars to books and video card manufacturers, who knows.
What happens is whenever I make a post about something negative about whatever is discussed in the forum, everyone wants to kill me. I mean what the ****? Nothing is perfect okay? It’s a sad fact of life, learn to accept it?
It would seem to me that many people here tend to think their awesome magical super multitasking gigantic 6.99in. screen octa-core hyper-fast android phone with 35 home screens 126 gadgets, running a different LWP on each homescreen, customized to the last pixel, rooted even before being produced, quad-led flash and 82mp camera with 10x optical zoom and phase-detect autofocus and optical inferred, ultraviolet, x-ray mode, with photon-multiplying night vision, with built-in light saber, smartphone. Is the most perfect phone ever to be conceived since before the Big Bang, never to be seen again, not in this universe, or any other coming after it, or any other parallel to it, by any intelligence, divine or not, alive or not, carbon based or not, organic or mechanical, conscious or not. Not even the all-powerful all-knowing omnipotent omniscient Yahweh can reproduce, or even conceive its intricate design.
It’s just so sad whenever I post something going against such a belief without repeatedly expressing it was definitely caused by my own stupidity and inability to write my own operating system with machine language from the ground up blind folded one handed on a phone, debugging it, and installing it on the very same phone, without any other device or help. It seems that if I don’t do that, I am not allowed to say anything negative about android or people would try to kill me.
I know you have your explanations, you call it the “constructive criticism” standard. Something like, as I understand it, if I wanted to say something bad about android, I better have a solution for it. So if I don’t have a solution we should just sweep it under the rug and never mention it? Why is that? Cuz someone might get upset? I mean how pathetic? Like does your life’s sole purpose depend on the invincibility of the argument of your phone’s perfect design?
Now let me say something more serious. You shouldn’t find your confidence in your phone, or the brand of your motherboard, or the price of your watch, or the horsepower of your car, or the cup size of your girlfriend. Because all these, one day they won’t be there with you, they all diminish with time. So go find something more worthwhile, so you don’t get mad when people convince you that your phone isn’t perfect.
Well, I want to kill you for making a hard to read post.
In before the lock?
I don't see anything specifically lock-worthy, but, just in case ib4c since Archer told us not to post ib4l ....it will probably go on for a bit since Archer is likely asleep and I don't see vanessaem online.

			
				
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OP suffers death by paper cuts.
But there's one thing perfect about android. It is always better than apple products. No matter how **** the android or how good the apple product.
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actually this isn't just about android, the same **** happens in forms about everything from TV series, movie stars to books and video card manufacturers, who knows.
What happens is whenever I make a post about something negative about whatever is discussed in the forum, everyone wants to kill me. I mean what the ****? Nothing is perfect okay? It’s a sad fact of life, learn to accept it?
It would seem to me that many people here tend to think their awesome magical super multitasking gigantic 6.99in. screen octa-core hyper-fast android phone with 35 home screens 126 gadgets, running a different LWP on each homescreen, customized to the last pixel, rooted even before being produced, quad-led flash and 82mp camera with 10x optical zoom and phase-detect autofocus and optical inferred, ultraviolet, x-ray mode, with photon-multiplying night vision, with built-in light saber, smartphone. Is the most perfect phone ever to be conceived since before the Big Bang, never to be seen again, not in this universe, or any other coming after it, or any other parallel to it, by any intelligence, divine or not, alive or not, carbon based or not, organic or mechanical, conscious or not. Not even the all-powerful all-knowing omnipotent omniscient Yahweh can reproduce, or even conceive its intricate design.
It’s just so sad whenever I post something going against such a belief without repeatedly expressing it was definitely caused by my own stupidity and inability to write my own operating system with machine language from the ground up blind folded one handed on a phone, debugging it, and installing it on the very same phone, without any other device or help. It seems that if I don’t do that, I am not allowed to say anything negative about android or people would try to kill me.
I know you have your explanations, you call it the “constructive criticism” standard. Something like, as I understand it, if I wanted to say something bad about android, I better have a solution for it. So if I don’t have a solution we should just sweep it under the rug and never mention it? Why is that? Cuz someone might get upset? I mean how pathetic? Like does your life’s sole purpose depend on the invincibility of the argument of your phone’s perfect design?
Now let me say something more serious. You shouldn’t find your confidence in your phone, or the brand of your motherboard, or the price of your watch, or the horsepower of your car, or the cup size of your girlfriend. Because all these, one day they won’t be there with you, they all diminish with time. So go find something more worthwhile, so you don’t get mad when people convince you that your phone isn’t perfect.
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You make a thread titled "Android is not perfect" and don't give a single reason why it's not perfect. Instead you go insulting those who use the operating system (Which I would hardly call constructive criticism). Yes most of us realize that Android is not perfect. Software will never be perfect. There will always be better and more things to add. Now I agree with you in that some people take the specs of their phone way too seriously but that is not the majority of users.
P.S. It's not just Android people that will get mad if you start insulting. If you go to an Ubuntu forum and telling them that Linux is crap, they will yell at you. Same with an iPhone forum.
Oh and...
I'd rather kill the OP than read that wall of text. I don't think anyone would mind that..

			
				
I'll never understand why someone would go to the effort of typing up such a rant and not even bother to make it readable? Isn't the whole point of rants like this to have people read them (and based on the title, incite some kind of argument, it's obvious troll bait)?
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I'll never understand why someone would go to the effort of typing up such a rant and not even bother to make it readable? Isn't the whole point of rants like this to have people read them (and based on the title, incite some kind of argument, it's obvious troll bait)?
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Yeah, I truly didn't read it. I guess the bait worked anyway.
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Yeah, I truly didn't read it. I guess the bait worked anyway.
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I tried but gave up when I realized it was just a block of text (made it maybe five words in).
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I tried but gave up when I realized it was just a block of text (made it maybe five words in).
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Bless your heart, you made it that far.
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m1l4droid said:
I made about 2 lines in but then realized it was gibberish.
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I hardly ever do what I did. I opened the thread, saw the huge block of letters and scrolled down and made my first post in the blink of an eye.
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m1l4droid said:
I made about 2 lines in but then realized it was gibberish.
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You must be a masochist.
TheSkinnyDrummer said:
I hardly ever do what I did. I opened the thread, saw the huge block of letters and scrolled down and made my first post in the blink of an eye.
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A very appropriate response given the (lack of) content therein.
Y...M...C...A...
Everybody!
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A very appropriate response given the (lack of) content therein.
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Did you just insult me? Too many 6+ letter words.
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Note 4 #Pengate. What it is and should we be worried.

Hey everyone, I just got my Note 4 yesterday and ran into some pretty big S Pen issues. I haven't seen anyone else post about this or make videos about this so I'm assuming this is just an isolated incident. Basically, the S Pen doesn't work along a vertical band that stretches up the entire device. Has anyone else had this issue? If so, did you find a way to fix it? (factory reset, re-calibration, etc)?
I'm going to try a factory reset soon and see if that fixes it. I just wanted to post about it in this forum just in case it's more common than I thought. Here's a video on it.
Stop slapping '#gate' at every little thing.
Please. Just stop.
This is not happening to me, it's just a defective unit.
doesn't happen on mine
It's hardly a common issue. This makes the whole "gate" thing even more embarrassing.
It's clearly just a defective unit. Likely a faulty wacom digitizer if it only affects the spen. Any phone can get a faulty touchscreen too.
Good to know this isn't a common thing so far. The Note 4 was just released yesterday in the US so I wasn't sure if it was an issue specific to the US variant. There were originally two bands that didn't work on my phone then all of a sudden one of them started working again. Maybe this will go away with time, but I'm still definitely going to do an exchange once I can.
I understand that "Pengate" may be an irritating title, but I wanted to make sure people were aware of this so they check their S Pens right when they get their notes. It's not often that someone uses the S Pen to write on the entire screen so dead spots might go unnoticed for months which would put a lot of people out of the easy exchange period where they could just swap out their phone at the store they bought it from. Dealing with manufacturers for defects always takes way longer than it should so the idea was to help avoid that hassle.
Mine too!
Believe it or not I have the same issue though the area where the pen won't write is different. Also the pen can be quite unresponsive and unreliable at times.
I'll see if there's a fix that comes up or if I also have a defective unit.
Oh no not another "gate" troll thread!
What does "gate" have to do with anything you have written about? it is simply unnecessary.
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Stop slapping '#gate' at every little thing.
Please. Just stop.
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Thanks for that. I was thinking that I'd accidentally just stumbled on to macrumors.com.
No problem here with my unit. Tried to do a software reset ?
Galaxaster said:
Believe it or not I have the same issue though the area where the pen won't write is different. Also the pen can be quite unresponsive and unreliable at times.
I'll see if there's a fix that comes up or if I also have a defective unit.
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Thanks for the post. I'd definitely get it back to wherever you got yours and see if you can exchange it for a new one. Even if there is a way to fix it I'm still not sure how much I'd trust that it wouldn't happen again sometime shortly after my warranty ran out. Do you have the US version or the international version? I'm wondering if this is just a US version issue.
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What does "gate" have to do with anything you have written about? it is simply unnecessary.
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I'll give you that. "Gate" comes from the Watergate scandal. People are throwing "gate" onto the end of anything they think is a big deal. While this Note 4 issue may not be a big deal (we won't know for another week or so since the US version was just released yesterday), I decided to use "gate" to intentionally draw attention to it. More people would click it and spread the word about a potential issue that most people wouldn't find quickly enough to be able to fix it without going through Samsung. Is it a "cheap" way of spreading the news? Absolutely, I won't disagree with that. But it's spreading the news so people don't end up with the RMA hassle in case this does become a widespread issue with the US version of the Note 4. The US version was only released yesterday and so far 4 people have messaged me saying they have the same issue with their Note 4's only a few hours after posting the video.
I'm sorry for the irritation. I had a feeling some people would get offended by the title, but couldn't think of a better way to spread the news quickly.
No problem with my spen. Did u check ur case? Spen cannot write on the place where magnet is located
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I had two blind spots on the right side of my Note 4 where the SPEN didn't work.
Reason: My case contains two magnets which interfere with the SPEN.
Remove case, try again, still there?
Return for a replacement.
#Penagte - HashTàg|(Interesting fact(s)( )) [·]¦
I think that you did own this HasHtag.
But this post is about around 13 hrs. old.
Now this video here has aproxxminntlý the same age.
Everybody can own everything and everybody don't actaully thinks, that this hashtag is just from you!
Now you made something that is getting famous!
Just own a realistique hashtag and nobody knows, that you('re the ONE AND ONLY PERSON that did )invent/devise this hashtag!
But Pengate isn't a bad idea.
But why always that „gate“?
14hrs. ago, the hashtag #Pengate was worldwide COMPLETELy UNKNOWN!
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Welll..... i don't want to say ANYTHING agianst you.
This is just what i've recognized!
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Couldn't think of a better way to spread the news quickly.
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A local Ebola outbreak is something you want to spread the news of quickly. A potential and yet unproven mobile device defect not so much. You're obviously articulate. I think your title was carefully chosen for the effect it created.
Widespread problems on a device self-identify. Sensationalism just drives hypochondriacs. If this really is a problem of note we'll know soon enough.
SM-N910 L Korean Exynos version here, spen is working fine. Unit is in my possession for two weeks now and no problems whatsoever.
This is not a #gate problem..... hopefully that phone can be exchanged soon.
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A local Ebola outbreak is something you want to spread the news of quickly. A potential and yet unproven mobile device defect not so much. You're obviously articulate. I think your title was carefully chosen for the effect it created.
Widespread problems on a device self-identify. Sensationalism just drives hypochondriacs. If this really is a problem of note we'll know soon enough.
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That's a fair point. This is absolutely a first world problem where the worst effect of people not knowing about this just results in a headache with RMAs. When we compare this to Ebola, world hunger, or the widespread sex trafficking happening all over the US it really makes any tech topic dumb to complain about or quickly spread news about.
Aside from that I just realized another negative effect of using #pengate. Hardcore Apple fans would likely grab that and start making irritating arguments about how Apple makes the best phones in the world because of #pengate. Conversely, hardcore android fans may see this as an attack on android instead of just a heads up.
Next time I find something like this I'll be more careful at picking a tag to spread news quickly. BTW, I appreciate your well articulated arguments against using "gate". You make you point well without needing to be offensive. :good:

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