Sell "new" "still shrink-wrapped" vzw moto x 2? - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Getting it in RMA for 3rd factory defect X1. So not sure if it will be "new" or refurb. All black Moto Maker 32GB no inscription.
Any ideas what it's worth unboxed vs. still sealed shrink wrap?
Any word on ETA for BL Unlock / root?
thx

dzdroider said:
Getting it in RMA for 3rd factory defect X1. So not sure if it will be "new" or refurb. All black Moto Maker 32GB no inscription.
Any ideas what it's worth unboxed vs. still sealed shrink wrap?
thx
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Sell it on swappa.com. You'll be able to see what they are selling for, and get a lot more action. Cost is only $10.

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Low priced AT&T Moto X at Dell.com?

Sorry if this is a repost. But I stumbled upon this deal @ dell.com and was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of it:
16gb black or white Moto X AT&T OFF contract for $205.99.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...~16749937&nf=262407~0~16749937&s=bsd&~ck=anav
Now I don't know if this is a mistake or not, but I placed the order and it went through. It came out to be $222 shipped...am I missing out on something here?
I even contacted the customer support, and they confirmed it was a special they have with AT&T, but they were unable to tell me any other details, like how long the sale is going on for. The rep did tell me that my order would not ship out until the 15th-ish, while my confirmation email said it would arrive around 11/21/13.
I hope this is legit, as I've already ordered a 32 gb Nexus 5 from Google and will be expecting it soon. But I prefer the form factor of the Moto X, and for that price point, I'm either returning the Nexus, or selling it.
p00kienrayray said:
Sorry if this is a repost. But I stumbled upon this deal @ dell.com and was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of it:
16gb black or white Moto X AT&T OFF contract for $205.99.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...~16749937&nf=262407~0~16749937&s=bsd&~ck=anav
Now I don't know if this is a mistake or not, but I placed the order and it went through. It came out to be $222 shipped...am I missing out on something here?
I even contacted the customer support, and they confirmed it was a special they have with AT&T, but they were unable to tell me any other details, like how long the sale is going on for. The rep did tell me that my order would not ship out until the 15th-ish, while my confirmation email said it would arrive around 11/21/13.
I hope this is legit, as I've already ordered a 32 gb Nexus 5 from Google and will be expecting it soon. But I prefer the form factor of the Moto X, and for that price point, I'm either returning the Nexus, or selling it.
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p00kienrayray said:
Sorry if this is a repost. But I stumbled upon this deal @ dell.com and was wondering if anyone had any knowledge of it:
16gb black or white Moto X AT&T OFF contract for $205.99.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...~16749937&nf=262407~0~16749937&s=bsd&~ck=anav
Now I don't know if this is a mistake or not, but I placed the order and it went through. It came out to be $222 shipped...am I missing out on something here?
I even contacted the customer support, and they confirmed it was a special they have with AT&T, but they were unable to tell me any other details, like how long the sale is going on for. The rep did tell me that my order would not ship out until the 15th-ish, while my confirmation email said it would arrive around 11/21/13.
I hope this is legit, as I've already ordered a 32 gb Nexus 5 from Google and will be expecting it soon. But I prefer the form factor of the Moto X, and for that price point, I'm either returning the Nexus, or selling it.
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Same kind of thing happened on Amazon yesterday. Swappa is gonna be swamped with new phones.
gochiefs said:
Looking up the part number i also found this one Best Buy http://www.bestbuybusiness.com/bbfb/en/US/adirect/bestbuy;jsessionid=1BE54255D5663C43D6EEDF9538C49AF3.bstby6?cmd=catProductDetail&productID=BB19304054&operation=Overview
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HMMMMMM....interesting.
chaoslimits said:
Same kind of thing happened on Amazon yesterday. Swappa is gonna be swamped with new phones.
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Ha, yea I heard about that, WITW is going on here?
gochiefs said:
Looking up the part number i also found this one Best Buy http://www.bestbuybusiness.com/bbfb/en/US/adirect/bestbuy;jsessionid=1BE54255D5663C43D6EEDF9538C49AF3.bstby6?cmd=catProductDetail&productID=BB19304054&operation=Overview
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Yours is under "new contract phones". I doubt it's contract free.
gochiefs said:
Looking up the part number i also found this one Best Buy http://www.bestbuybusiness.com/bbfb/en/US/adirect/bestbuy;jsessionid=1BE54255D5663C43D6EEDF9538C49AF3.bstby6?cmd=catProductDetail&productID=BB19304054&operation=Overview
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Well in trying to purchase it thru the best buy link, it requires you to select a plan, so it looks like its on contract pricing.
p00kienrayray said:
Well in trying to purchase it thru the best buy link, it requires you to select a plan, so it looks like its on contract pricing.
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I think this is only for business accounts. It asks for Company name and asks you verify the company details.
chaoslimits said:
I think this is only for business accounts. It asks for Company name and asks you verify the company details.
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If you're referring to the Dell website, all I did was use my employer's name (I'm guessing you can use any company's name), but the billing and shipping were to my personal card and address. There were no company verification steps or anything like that. BTW, I checked out as a guest, and didn't even create a Dell account.
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If you're referring to the Dell website, all I did was use my employer's name (I'm guessing you can use any company's name), but the billing and shipping were to my personal card and address. There were no company verification steps or anything like that. BTW, I checked out as a guest, and didn't even create a Dell account.
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Nice find!!!! was able to order one and just received confirmation email!
Wow, I just ordered one too. I even picked next day shipping for $21.99 to expedite it.
Only problem was that even though I picked next day air it says delivery estimated on November 19th???
Edit: At this point I'd be happy if it even shows up to my work!
The Moto X they're selling has a different model number since it's made for a business. It's still a moto x obviously but I wonder what different security measures it has. Rooting it may be different since the software may be made more secure for business purposes. Just a wild theory but something to think about.
I ordered a white one and a black one. My wife wants one like mine and I figure I can maybe flip the other on the cheap and still come out with a good deal
Damn, maybe too good to be true! The part number seems to indicate new service on a quick Google search...is there anyway they can restrict a phone to new service/contract activation only?
So, I just gave this a shot and ordered a Black Moto X from Dell. I've just read too many reviews praising the phone and the pricepoint is too tempting to pass up.
I would like to use SmartTalk for this phone if possible. I really hope it works out.
I also really wanted a Droid MAXX for its' incredible battery life, but $206 for a Moto X, yeah, that will work. :good:
just saw it on macmall also for $210
http://www.macmall.com/p/ATAndT-Cellular-Telephony/product~dpno~9773708~pdp.idijdhh
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well i just googled the part number and saw it on ecost for $210
http://www.ecost.tc/p/product~dpno~9773708~pdp.idijdhh
What's going on here guys lol?
Good marketing trick to swamp the market... I'm more than convinced.
methodz said:
just saw it on macmall also for $210
http://www.macmall.com/p/ATAndT-Cellular-Telephony/product~dpno~9773708~pdp.idijdhh
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well i just googled the part number and saw it on ecost for $210
http://www.ecost.tc/p/product~dpno~9773708~pdp.idijdhh
What's going on here guys lol?
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https://www.shi.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?SHISystemID=ShiCommodity&ProductIdentity=27547727
$91.45?
It seems odd that there are duplicate listings for the Black and White Moto Xs on Dell. The only difference is the model number, apparently. Something seems wrong. That being said, Dell is pretty good as far as returns go, and I feel like you'd be stupid not to try for a $200 phone here. I'm expecting either a cancellation email or just some weird, $200 accessory to show up at my doorstep in 10 days.
For $200 I bit the bullet and willing to put up with lack of updates and such... this being ATT phone...
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I bought one, interested to see what the deal is. Be prepared to be disappointed
sc4fpse said:
https://www.shi.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?SHISystemID=ShiCommodity&ProductIdentity=27547727
$91.45?
It seems odd that there are duplicate listings for the Black and White Moto Xs on Dell. The only difference is the model number, apparently. Something seems wrong. That being said, Dell is pretty good as far as returns go, and I feel like you'd be stupid not to try for a $200 phone here. I'm expecting either a cancellation email or just some weird, $200 accessory to show up at my doorstep in 10 days.
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Yea, I'm thinking the same thing. On my confirmation email Dell said that they are not responsible for pricing errors, so a cancellation email is very possible especially if large volume of orders are placed. They've already charged my card, and the worst thing that can happen is they refund the $. Besides for $200, why not?
Maybe its supposed to be the Moto G.
No cheap deals on dell.ca...

[Q] Moto X on sale for Verizon - from $49 through 10/20 through Moto Maker

Pissed, haven't even received my 32GB, black leather, red trim phone yet, and I can get it $50 cheaper now. My wife has an upgrade available too, can I buy a new one and return the phone to Verizon w/in 14 days?
toddbecker said:
Pissed, haven't even received my 32GB, black leather, red trim phone yet, and I can get it $50 cheaper now. My wife has an upgrade available too, can I buy a new one and return the phone to Verizon w/in 14 days?
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Why not try asking Motorola for a credit. For the inconvenience of still waiting for your phone and since they've discounted the price. Pick up a turbo charger and a case or something.
qwerty12601 said:
Why not try asking Motorola for a credit. For the inconvenience of still waiting for your phone and since they've discounted the price. Pick up a turbo charger and a case or something.
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Working on that now, though I really only want to get the $50 discount. Only headache is related to the upgrades. The Moto maker process did take my upgrade, so I spoke to Verizion, aside from having to play some upgrade ping pong with the upgrade on my wife's line, there shouldn't be a problem placing a second order and getting the upgrade back when Motorola cancels my first order. If I didn't have another upgrade available, this would be a much bigger deal.
I only placed the original order on 10/8, which is one reason why I am miffed about the discount. I realize that Moto can't always just apply sale pricing to previous purchases. I'm actually pleasantly surprised that they are willing to take the phone back w/ no penalty (15 day buyers remorse program, includes return shipping via FedEx). The upgrade ping pong is a minor annoyance and worth the $50 to me. It would certainly be nice if they could just cancel the first order... on hold regarding that right now. Cancelling the order wasn't possible.
Overall, both Moto and Verizon customer support were very helpful, and I'll be able to get my discounted 32GB, black leather, red trim Moto X 3 days later than the original.

Moto Care Advance Replacement

If buy Moto Care for the Moto X, and need a replacement under Advanced Damage Protection, is it possible to change personalization options, or are you locked into the design, personalization, etc. that you initially had?
Are you talking the Moto X or Nexus 6?
I think that you get a code to make a new phone but they may send you a temp phone for yours to get repaired. I think it depends what happens to you phone.
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Sorry, edited post. Moto X. I hear they only do replacement (not repair), but I'm wondering if they go the "code" route (which would allow you to modify/make changes), or will only send you one physically identical.
I cracked the screen on my 16gb standard black X, I won't get into all the details but I had a less than enjoyable experience with customer service. Eventually I was sent a matching replacement and two days later I was emailed a promo code to Motomake another one, 32gb slate back with a charger and case and was sent another promo code for $25 off any accessory. I don't have damage protection and wasn't charged the $135 replacement cost.
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Infekxion said:
I cracked the screen on my 16gb standard black X, I won't get into all the details but I had a less than enjoyable experience with customer service. Eventually I was sent a matching replacement and two days later I was emailed a promo code to Motomake another one, 32gb slate back with a charger and case and was sent another promo code for $25 off any accessory. I don't have damage protection and wasn't charged the $135 replacement cost.
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So, you got a replacement AND a moto maker code? So you had to in essence, return two phones?
Sorry forgot to mention that; Yes I had to return the replacement not the Motomaker.
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Did anyone purchase the $85 insurance with your phone?

I bought the Moto X Pure Edition last night and they offered insurance for $85. I have had two Samsung devices that I used it for. GPS died on my S5 and speaker died on my S4. Has anyone purchased the insurance for theMoto or feel like they should have?
Absolutely I did. I have it on my 2013 Moto X as well. With how cheap the phone is, the extra $85 is a no brainer. $35 deductible and you're covered no matter what happens to your phone short of loss or theft.
I bought it too. Cheaper than the insurance through Verizon.
I have the insurance. It is better then having a case.
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Anyway of getting the insurance after receiving the phone?
dazz87 said:
Anyway of getting the insurance after receiving the phone?
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If you call I think you can get it within 30 days of your purchase date
i think u have 30 days to add it. log in on the motorola mobility website and do to "my stuff," you should have the option to buy it. unless this is a verizon phone.
i cracked my screen they replaced no questions asked. they gave me a code to go to moto maker and build a new phone. i could change the color or add premium backs (extra cost, of course) if I wished . phone showed up quick.
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Anyway of getting the insurance after receiving the phone?
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Yes, I chatted with Moto today and they sent me the link, you have to do it within 30 days as others have said
This insurance is probably the cheapest you could get. I just looked at squaretrade and its more than Motorola. Will give them a call. Thanks
It's the best deal you're going to find & it's direct work Moto. You're not going to find a better deal plus they cross ship.
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CUBENSIS said:
i think u have 30 days to add it. log in on the motorola mobility website and do to "my stuff," you should have the option to buy it. unless this is a verizon phone.
i cracked my screen they replaced no questions asked. they gave me a code to go to moto maker and build a new phone. i could change the color or add premium backs (extra cost, of course) if I wished . phone showed up quick.
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you can add it to a verizon phone via the website or phone
I just order a moto x 2014 but I didn't order the extended warranty because I want to think about it some more during the next 30 days. Right now I don't think it is a good deal.
It cost $125 ($85 now, and another $40 if you use it to make a claim).
First, the cost seems way out of line. It is close to 1/3 the cost of the phone (I used the cyber Monday coupon for a 32gb, but if you buy only the 16gb on the coupon, the insurance would be more than 1/3 the cost of the phone.) So I'm paying $125 to insure $410 for months 13 through 24 (the phone already has a 1 year warranty). A year from now, the phone could be replaced with a comparable used phone for less than 2/3 's the original; cost, so at best I'm paying $125 to insure a value of $280 or less. That doesn't make economic sense unless you are Motorola.
Second, although the accident coverage starts with day one, it only cover's "accidents" but excludes "negligence." Does that mean if you drop your phone it is your negligence and not covered? The way the contract is written it appears that it only covers damage cause by the negligence of a third party. It doesn't cover any damage caused by intentional or reckless behavior of anyone. So if your friend negligently bumps you causing you to drop the phone and cracking the screen you are covered. If you drop your phone in the toilet it is your negligence and you are not covered. If your friend takes your phone in a fit of rage and throws it against the wall cracking the screen it is not covered because that would be intentional. The contract requires that you submit a detailed description of how the damage occurred. If you don't hire a lawyer to help you write that description, it will be easy for the insurer to deny coverage. Trying to explain how your friend accidently bumped you while you were holding your phone while standing over the toilet isn't going to sound very credible.
Third, it doesn't cover the battery. Batteries are specifically excluded. The one-year standard warranty covers batteries only if they fail to recharge to at least 80%. That means after one year, if your battery dies or only recharges to 81%, you have a paper weight (one side of which is rounded so it can only be used face down as a paper weight.)
The fact that carriers might charge more for similar insurance doesn't make the Motorola extended warranty any better, it just means the carriers' extended warranties are even less economically viable.
Given all that, it seems to me more economical to save the $125 and use it toward purchase of a new phone if the need arises.
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i think u have 30 days to add it. log in on the motorola mobility website and do to "my stuff," you should have the option to buy it. unless this is a verizon phone.
i cracked my screen they replaced no questions asked. they gave me a code to go to moto maker and build a new phone. i could change the color or add premium backs (extra cost, of course) if I wished . phone showed up quick.
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30 days from your purchase date or date received?
TigerDNA said:
Yes, I chatted with Moto today and they sent me the link, you have to do it within 30 days as others have said
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Regarding the value of Motocare, before purchasing my Moto X PE 2014, I purchased a 2013 developer edition for $229 on eBay. Never having used the phone, I wanted to see what the moto love was all about.
I had the DE phone two weeks, dropped it, smashed the screen. Motocare covers for a two year period against accidental damage such as breaking a screen. You can break your screen three times.
Put in a claim, paid $39 for essentially expedited shipping. They sent me new 2013 DE in 4 days. Cross shipped as well.
How the heck can you do better than that? For $85?! For 2 years coverage. You will not find better.

Safe to buy a used LG G4 in reference to major bootloop issue on older models?

I was in the market to replace my parent’s old Galaxy Note 2. So I’ve been searching around for comparable phone that has slight upgrades. My Budget is around $300. Parents need a phone with removable battery and good GPS so I’m limited to the LG G3, G4 and Note 3 and 4. Also wants screen at 5.5 inches or larger. So was concerned to read about this widespread bootloop issue. After reading up on this issue it seems all old models/ will eventually be affected. I usually purchase phones second hand off of eBay or Swappa but in this case It seems I must be very careful as it seems many people are unloading these devices which will eventually fail. Some have sold their devices beforehand because of this and I’m sure as second hand buyers we will inherit/get the issue in time. Also not sure about how warranty works for second hand buyers. I’m with T-Mobile by the way. What do you guys think about buying a G4 right now? Safe bet or stay away? Also if you guys know any comparable devices that meet all the criteria or most let me know. Thanks
I'll throw my two cents in here. I bought an LG G2 about a year ago and loved the LG style of hardware, button placement, and great performance. I had the old upgrade itch rear its ugly head and so I decided the G4 was the phone for me. Generally it wouldn't bother me to buy mint used phones, but I decided in this case I should do some research. I found out about the bootloop issue and decided it wasn't worth the risk (for me). An awesome deal came up on eBay, brand new G4 in box for $348, snapped that up right away, got it yesterday and from my time with it so far I love it. Best phone I've ever owned. Sorry for the long preamble, here's my advice, if you can swing the extra $40 -$50 for a new boxed phone (assuming a deal like that pops up on eBay again) I would say go for it. The extra $50 in my mind is well worth the peace of mind knowing that it has a warranty. I will say that when I was looking at Swappa I saw a lot of like new T-Mobile refurbs for the G4, however I was still a bit hesitant on those because I couldn't find much info on T-Mobile's refurbishment process. You may be more comfortable with T-Mobile refurbs than I was though so something to consider. I hope you find something that will work well!
Thanks for the advice
asinglenoob said:
I'll throw my two cents in here. I bought an LG G2 about a year ago and loved the LG style of hardware, button placement, and great performance. I had the old upgrade itch rear its ugly head and so I decided the G4 was the phone for me. Generally it wouldn't bother me to buy mint used phones, but I decided in this case I should do some research. I found out about the bootloop issue and decided it wasn't worth the risk (for me). An awesome deal came up on eBay, brand new G4 in box for $348, snapped that up right away, got it yesterday and from my time with it so far I love it. Best phone I've ever owned. Sorry for the long preamble, here's my advice, if you can swing the extra $40 -$50 for a new boxed phone (assuming a deal like that pops up on eBay again) I would say go for it. The extra $50 in my mind is well worth the peace of mind knowing that it has a warranty. I will say that when I was looking at Swappa I saw a lot of like new T-Mobile refurbs for the G4, however I was still a bit hesitant on those because I couldn't find much info on T-Mobile's refurbishment process. You may be more comfortable with T-Mobile refurbs than I was though so something to consider. I hope you find something that will work well!
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Yeah the scary part is it seems people are just unloading the phones and you cant really know which ones will have issues later. If i buy new from ebay will i still be covered by T-Mobiles warranty ? I thought to get that you had to buy the phone direct from them ? I will keep looking around to see if any deals come up.
naruto.ninjakid said:
Yeah the scary part is it seems people are just unloading the phones and you cant really know which ones will have issues later. If i buy new from ebay will i still be covered by T-Mobiles warranty ? I thought to get that you had to buy the phone direct from them ? I will keep looking around to see if any deals come up.
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I don't think you'll be covered by T-Mobile's warranty, but you should be covered by LG's manufacturer warranty (I would think anyway) as long as it's new in box. Also a lot of the new supply is likely to be manufactured after the date when they had issues. The issue dates were from months 05-08 of 2015 (from what I've read in the forums). The phone I got from eBay was manufactured in 09 2015 so it should *fingers crossed* be just fine.
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I don't think you'll be covered by T-Mobile's warranty, but you should be covered by LG's manufacturer warranty (I would think anyway) as long as it's new in box. Also a lot of the new supply is likely to be manufactured after the date when they had issues. The issue dates were from months 05-08 of 2015 (from what I've read in the forums). The phone I got from eBay was manufactured in 09 2015 so it should *fingers crossed* be just fine.
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your right. Before i buy it ill have to ask the seller a lot of questions like when was it manufactured and whats the serial numbers and such. Will look into LG's warranty coverage for eBay. I think on eBay you can also buy squaretrade coverage as well.
naruto.ninjakid said:
I was in the market to replace my parent’s old Galaxy Note 2. So I’ve been searching around for comparable phone that has slight upgrades. My Budget is around $300. Parents need a phone with removable battery and good GPS so I’m limited to the LG G3, G4 and Note 3 and 4. Also wants screen at 5.5 inches or larger. So was concerned to read about this widespread bootloop issue. After reading up on this issue it seems all old models/ will eventually be affected. I usually purchase phones second hand off of eBay or Swappa but in this case It seems I must be very careful as it seems many people are unloading these devices which will eventually fail. Some have sold their devices beforehand because of this and I’m sure as second hand buyers we will inherit/get the issue in time. Also not sure about how warranty works for second hand buyers. I’m with T-Mobile by the way. What do you guys think about buying a G4 right now? Safe bet or stay away? Also if you guys know any comparable devices that meet all the criteria or most let me know. Thanks
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Have had mine since about a week after release last year. Zero problems. Will have it for quite a while longer.
there is a new in box on swappa right now, but the seller says he opened the box to remove the sim. Do phones come with a sim already in place like that?
raqfox said:
there is a new in box on swappa right now, but the seller says he opened the box to remove the sim. Do phones come with a sim already in place like that?
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I'm not aware of any phone that comes with a sim pre-installed.
T-Mobile phones come with an unactivated sim on a punch out card. They are not "installed" in the phone. The Swappa seller is not including this sim in his listing.
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For $300 you can manage to get a brand new G4 right now, beside tell get cheaper now that the G5 been announce.
P.S any G4 manufacture on or after 09/16 as far as i know don't have those issues
Will keep an eye out.
DrakenFX said:
For $300 you can manage to get a brand new G4 right now, beside tell get cheaper now that the G5 been announce.
P.S any G4 manufacture on or after 09/16 as far as i know don't have those issues
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Hi thanks for the tips. do you have a link for the sale for $300 or do you mean on Swappa. Would rather purchase from a retailer so if you have any sites you purchase from let me know. Thanks
naruto.ninjakid said:
Hi thanks for the tips. do you have a link for the sale for $300 or do you mean on Swappa. Would rather purchase from a retailer so if you have any sites you purchase from let me know. Thanks
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Used prices are roughly 300 used so new would cost 500ish but there have been sales that brought the price down to 400ish. Keep waiting and it'll drop even more.
naruto.ninjakid said:
Hi thanks for the tips. do you have a link for the sale for $300 or do you mean on Swappa. Would rather purchase from a retailer so if you have any sites you purchase from let me know. Thanks
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tiskewlio said:
Used prices are roughly 300 used so new would cost 500ish but there have been sales that brought the price down to 400ish. Keep waiting and it'll drop even more.
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well right now the G4 (H811) is going for $400 (Full Price) and just recently there was a $75 off from $400 but ended already....just wait or if you have $100 more to spare just get it, but i just recommend to wait a bit to see a permanent price cut on the G4 or even the V10.

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