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recall of "made in china" ATK branded battery in galaxy tab (affect non-korean too?)

recall of "made in china" ATK branded battery in galaxy tab (affect non-korean too?)
About two months ago my tab died. I'm a foreigner in korea so I went down to my local samsung electronics service centre (sec.co.kr). After talking shop with the service engineer he opened up that there was a silent recall on all made in china "ATK" prefixed model number batteries which I had. The battery was tossed in the trash can showing there is NO returns / credit (RA) arrangement with the chinese manufacturing contractor or the relationship had gone sour, but this is just speculation on my part.
The replacement battery is a korean model that seems to have diminished capacity after the wear-in period (like others have reported). It is well known that samsung, hyundai and other korean conglomerates sell second class products to its own countryfolk whilst only supplying top notch components on export orders. Let's test this theory. How many of you who dared to open your galaxy tab export models have chinese made batteries?
I kept a log of battery performance under my new and former batteries.
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you'll be surprise that CHINA now the only country that made the original stuff and not to forgot the FACT that its also the #1 country who made the fake stuff
1- Cheap workers ...
2- ELECTRONIC Stuff are cheap
3- Intelligent Country
China now rolling the world by ELEC

Lets all hail China the land of fake brand knockoffs. They probably mixed up the genuine and fake batches with their OEM. Halarious! Go to china and try to buy a genuine electronic replacement battery or flash memory. Odds are you are buying a ghost shift fake. If china is so good why don't they design their own products like the koreans do. Their "dragon" mips knockoff cpu is a slow start.
Seriously guys. Its big news when a major handset is affected by a faulty component, or at least it was for the iphone 4. Now to assertain if this recall is for korean inferior product for domestic consumption with easy access to service facilities or their chinese cost cutting measure didn't pay dividends globally. Anyone got ATK branded batteries in overseas tabs? That's the issue here not how the chinese socialists peg their yuan to the us dollar to undermine the us manufacturing base (aka war machine) to overtake america as a super power. Reminds me of australia selling steal and iron ore to the japanese before it came back as bombs on darwin.
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Im surprised there is no feedback. Someone PM rotohammer and ask him in the tabs he opened up to get JTAG working did he see a made in China ATK model battery. I used to work tec support for the now defunct daewoo electronics and it is no secret in the industry that OEMs will not own up to a product recall publically if they can help it and clean up the mess through their affiliated (or in house in Korea) service centres.
In case you dont yet get my drift this could be as big a scandal as the iphone 4 ariel defect that samsung capitalized on in the UK giving free galaxy S es to unhappy iphone users willing to blog their complaints online.
Does your tab have a defective battery? After 3-9 months your phone could refuse to start from a cold boot if defective and have very limited capacity compared to quality lithium-ion batteries. Samsung got screwed by their chinese subcontractor and don't want to clean up the mess if they can help it by keeping the userbase in the dark until they are all out of warranty.
That's why some of you need to check your battery model - especially early adopters.
Luke
Aussie expat exiled in South Korea
Google "burnpassport" for the youtube vid to see why.
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hojuruku said:
Im surprised there is no feedback. Someone PM rotohammer and ask him in the tabs he opened up to get JTAG working did he see a made in China ATK model battery. I used to work tec support for the now defunct daewoo electronics and it is no secret in the industry that OEMs will not own up to a product recall publically if they can help it and clean up the mess through their affiliated (or in house in Korea) service centres.
In case you dont yet get my drift this could be as big a scandal as the iphone 4 ariel defect that samsung capitalized on in the UK giving free galaxy S es to unhappy iphone users willing to blog their complaints online.
Does your tab have a defective battery? After 3-9 months your phone could refuse to start from a cold boot if defective and have very limited capacity compared to quality lithium-ion batteries. Samsung got screwed by their chinese subcontractor and don't want to clean up the mess if they can help it by keeping the userbase in the dark until they are all out of warranty.
That's why some of you need to check your battery model - especially early adopters.
Luke
Aussie expat exiled in South Korea
Google "burnpassport" for the youtube vid to see why.
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WTF wrong now ? ? ? why you asking someone to ask someone for u ?
u got the F>>< pm function use it by yourself ... and thank you for stopping PM me ....... .

K0sh: U don't speaky no englishe.
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hojuruku said:
K0sh: U don't speaky no englishe.
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Of course Kosh is not englishman-read his signature....

bongski55 said:
Of course Kosh is not englishman-read his signature....
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Yeah lets just ignore him. The issue here is with all galaxy tab "7 models. The issue is not chinese people (like kosh) but the products they make more inexpensive through their lower wages and low exchange rate pegged to the dollar that was even too cost compeditive for samsung to refuse. I guess samsung has to competete with the iphone that's made under contact by Foxconn who's workers are committing suacide in droves (including R&D staff) according to local news reports. Yes I once lived in china.
Surey a few xda developers have seen a galaxy tab with it's back cover removed! Does the battery's model number have "ATK" marked on it and the infamous words "MADE IN CHINA"? If so I'm telling you your battery is faulty and there is a recall on it in Korea
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My new battery isn't much better. Running on stock rom for a month with minimal applications I noticed the standby time was reducing.... I have to carry a battery pack in my backpack these days to get by.
Bump.... Has anyone oversees had a battery death or heard of defective chinese batteries stuck in overseas models?
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[Q] Galaxy Note Retail Store

hi guys,
do you know where I can buy the galaxy note international version (preferable white color) in a retail store ?
I live in Chicago, IL.
Note: Primary, I prefer not to buy online so I can inspect for the screen quality before buying it. Secondary option is the Amazon. but if possible I hope there is still an online store that is more cheaper than what Amazon currently offers ($533 dark blue and $544 white)

Those are some pretty good prices in the US. I bought mine when it first came out and it was $730. As for the screen, you won't find a better looking screen on any device made before February.
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Ditto
I'm here looking for the same info as you.
I bought my last phone off of eBay.
It had problems that would have made me return it if I bought it locally, but since I would have to wait for all the shipping I just lived with the issues.
I considered buying the ATT version from BestBuy but they still want $750 for it and it doesn't have Exynos.
If the only USA option is buying online the best price I've seen is $499 + free shipping
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-store/

souleater11 said:
hi guys,
do you know where I can buy the galaxy note international version (preferable white color) in a retail store ?
I live in Chicago, IL.
Note: Primary, I prefer not to buy online so I can inspect for the screen quality before buying it. Secondary option is the Amazon. but if possible I hope there is still an online store that is more cheaper than what Amazon currently offers ($533 dark blue and $544 white)
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PHug said:
I'm here looking for the same info as you.
I bought my last phone off of eBay.
It had problems that would have made me return it if I bought it locally, but since I would have to wait for all the shipping I just lived with the issues.
I considered buying the ATT version from BestBuy but they still want $750 for it and it doesn't have Exynos.
If the only USA option is buying online the best price I've seen is $499 + free shipping
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-store/
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Sunday, May 13, 2012
souleater11, PHug, & XDA Members:
Have either of you ever had any serious hands-on time with an N7000? The reason I ask is because I am also a resident of the United States.
I purchased my blue, 16GB, unlocked GT-N7000 on Amazon for $730 at the beginning of January this year. At the time, it was the best price I could find. However, I was making a rather big leap of faith when I purchased my Note. I had never used, touched, or even seen a Galaxy Note in person before. To make matters even worse, I was transitioning to the Note from an iPhone 4. So I was really worried that selling my iPhone would turn out to be a ginormous mistake. I had just ordered a $730 device that I had never even been in the same room with. My decision to purchase was based solely on an Engadget review, a few YouTube videos, and the generally positive customer reviews I found in a Google search. Oh, and don't even get me started on the whole PenTile RGBG debate. I was coming from a phone that pioneered the extremely high dpi display. Honestly, there wasn't much that didn't worry me.
So anyway, I obviously went ahead and ordered it. Waiting for it to arrive was nerve-racking; but after three days, it showed up. I popped that sucker out of the box, fired it up, set the language to "U.S. English" and went to town. It was the most amazing device I had ever used! The Exynos 4210 is a beast. With "Chainfire 3D" installed, the Exynos blasts through any game I can throw at it. It truly is the best mobile phone I have ever seen!
Now, the screen issue. I have to be honest about this. At extreme and uncomfortably close distances to the display, the eye is barely able to detect the nature of the display's color matrix. Under normal circumstances, ALL normal circumstnces, the PenTile RGBG disadvantages are not detectable. I believe this is due to the fact that the Note's display is 285dpi. With pixels that small, the advantages/disadvantages of PenTile RGBG versus RGB stripe begin to disappear. In my personal opinion, the Galaxy Note's display matrix isn't even worth discussing. It is absolutely beautiful! I've yet to see a phone with a display that can match it. Aside from a couple of Samsung's other offerings, like the Galxy Nexus, there is no other phone with a comparable display. As a matter of fact, I'd have to say that it's PenTile RGBG color matrix is the display's ONLY shortcoming. If it were a Super AMOLED Plus HD display, it would be absolutely perfect. Anyway, I should go ahead and wrap this up. If I don't, I'm likely to rant myself a novel.
I decided to type this lengthy review/opinion of the GT-N7000 because, like I said, I am also from the U.S. and I wish that I had been more informed when I purchased my Note. If I had been, I still would have bought the Note, I just wouldn't have nearly had a heart-attack while waiting for it. Overall, the Note is a fantastic phone. I just upgraded mine to the official, German ICS build. That's another advantage of owning the GT-N7000 and living in the U.S. People in India, for example, are physically able to install the new German ICS build. However, the German build is missing all of the region and carrier specific software and settings for them. Living in the U.S. though, there are no carrier-specific settings for me. There is no U.S. build of ANY firmware for the GT-N7000. Strictly speaking, I can install any region/carrier's build without worry. All I have to do is change the device's language to "U.S. English", setup whatever APN(s) I need, and I'm all good to go. I also have a couple of other steps to "domesticate" the GT-N7000, but they require root, so I'll leave them out of this. Anyway, the bottom line is that the GT-N7000; no matter if you purchase it through Amazon, Expansys, Negri Electronics, or somewhere else, is a fantastic device. Look for a seller with a good price and a good return policy; but I seriously doubt returning it will ever even cross your mind once you've had a chance to use it.
I hope this has been both helpful and informative.
Thank you,
Ed (Mister_Mxyzptlk)
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so, where to buy in USA without getting price gouged?

So, I've checked out the pages in blackphantom's list of 'where to buy' (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3514744) this phone, but of those sites that I have examined, the prices being charged are all several hundred dollars higher than the base price (supposed to be around five hundred, with most sites charging 700-800 and up). any suggestions? i bought my oneplus one for 350, even here in the states, and i love it. i honestly still do not have an actual 'reason' to buy another phone right now, even though my phone is 2.5 years old (still works like a freaking champ, and it's gorgeous, imho). the mi mix is the first phone in a while that looked like something i would consider upgrading to, but i'm not going to spend more than five hundred dollars on a phone, particularly when my phone is still kicking it.
any suggestions?

Just wait until after CES & MWC 2017 pass by,along with the usual Q1-early Q2 phone announcements/releases.
Limited production quantities of 10k/month is the reason for the 3rd party mark-up.
If you live outside of China, it's the price you're gonna pay.No one here has paid the MSRP w/o a mark-up & that will be the case until other mfgs emulate this design.
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Holding out for CES 2017 is a good idea. Xiaomi will be there. There is a white variant that has been leaked on the Xiaomi official forum, which is quite ugly. Personally, I would prefer a North American version of this thing. If they don't release one, hopefully the buzz about other devices will bring the prices down a little.

Yup. There isn't one. Best I found was on Swappa.

http://www.xiaomidevice.com/xiaomi-mi-mix-pro-6gb-256gb.html

Swappa.com. Got mine for $500 in like new condition. Arrived at my house 2 days after purchase.

Swappa, got my 256 GB gold edition Mint like new for 580

A70 price in Europe is 399€

Hello, confirmed by Samsung DE price is 399 Euros https://www.samsung.com/de/smartphones/galaxy-a70-a705fnds/SM-A705FZKUDBT/

UK price was confirmed pre-launch as £369, but Samsung UK have gone very quiet on the subject now. Although there is a product page on their site (https://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-a70/SM-A705FZBUBTU/ which was actually there from before the start of the big Launch Event on 10 April) there is no pricing or any pre-order option yet.
I do hope it will actually arrive on 26 April as promised, as my main workhorse device has recently died and I'm having to use an old Galaxy S4 in the meantime, and the A70 looks like a perfect replacement for me on paper at least - big screen, big battery, decent enough processor for non-gaming use, decent enough camera as I use a DSLR for real photos, and a 3.5mm jack and SD Card slot.
Andre

andrewilley said:
UK price was confirmed pre-launch as £369, but Samsung UK have gone very quiet on the subject now. Although there is a product page on their site (https://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-a70/SM-A705FZBUBTU/ which was actually there from before the start of the big Launch Event on 10 April) there is no pricing or any pre-order option yet.
I do hope it will actually arrive on 26 April as promised, as my main workhorse device has recently died and I'm having to use an old Galaxy S4 in the meantime, and the A70 looks like a perfect replacement for me on paper at least - big screen, big battery, decent enough processor for non-gaming use, decent enough camera as I use a DSLR for real photos, and a 3.5mm jack and SD Card slot.
Andre
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Yes it's that battery that is the killer feature for me - I had a lenovo P2 and then switched to a nokia 7.1 plus but need that bigger battery...

Joezhang said:
Yes it's that battery that is the killer feature for me
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Same here. I had a Galaxy Note 3 (until it's memory chips sadly gave up on it last month, which was terminal, RIP) and I would always carry a fully-charged spare battery tucked away at the back of my wallet. If the main battery ran low during a busy day's usage, I would pop in the spare and instantly be back up to 100%. No messy cables or bulked-out booster covers to carry, and no recharging time - just zero to 100 in about 45 seconds. Sadly that ship has sailed now it seems.
Also my Note 3 had a bigger screen than any of the supposed "upgrades" that Samsung have released since. And by bigger I mean wider - I really don't care especially about taller/thinner devices with ratios greater than 16:9 as I can't reach any of that upper area one-handed anyway. The strange ratios also make it impossible to properly compare devices by diagonal screen measurement of course, as it would be possible to release a half-inch wide device that is 7 inches tall and still market it as a 7-inch screen! I'll have to live with it now though I guess, just as long as the new screen is not much narrower, width-wise, than what I'm used to (about 7.2 mm).
Oh, and while I'm whinging I also hate the curved-edge screens that Samsung has been making almost a trademark on higher-end devices over the last few years. What is the point, I can see no functional advantage whatsoever?
So anyway, back on topic, I'm hoping the A70 should tick as many of my boxes as possible as a replacement for my Note 3, apart from raw CPU power and wireless charging, and the pen that I never used. We'll see anyway - and hopefully very soon, although it's gone very quiet in terms of availability dates or companies taking pre-orders.
Andre

andrewilley said:
Same here. I had a Galaxy Note 3 (until it's memory chips sadly gave up on it last month, which was terminal, RIP) and I would always carry a fully-charged spare battery tucked away at the back of my wallet. If the main battery ran low during a busy day's usage, I would pop in the spare and instantly be back up to 100%. No messy cables or bulked-out booster covers to carry, and no recharging time - just zero to 100 in about 45 seconds. Sadly that ship has sailed now it seems.
Also my Note 3 had a bigger screen than any of the supposed "upgrades" that Samsung have released since. And by bigger I mean wider - I really don't care especially about taller/thinner devices with ratios greater than 16:9 as I can't reach any of that upper area one-handed anyway. The strange ratios also make it impossible to properly compare devices by diagonal screen measurement of course, as it would be possible to release a half-inch wide device that is 7 inches tall and still market it as a 7-inch screen! I'll have to live with it now though I guess, just as long as the new screen is not much narrower, width-wise, than what I'm used to (about 7.2 mm).
Oh, and while I'm whinging I also hate the curved-edge screens that Samsung has been making almost a trademark on higher-end devices over the last few years. What is the point, I can see no functional advantage whatsoever?
So anyway, back on topic, I'm hoping the A70 should tick as many of my boxes as possible as a replacement for my Note 3, apart from raw CPU power and wireless charging, and the pen that I never used. We'll see anyway - and hopefully very soon, although it's gone very quiet in terms of availability dates or companies taking pre-orders.
Andre
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I notice that Samsung are doing a £50 off on the a50 if you take in an old phone (I have a HTC that I paid £10 from Tesco three years ago in a drawer) - hopefully they do the same with the a70...

Joezhang said:
I notice that Samsung are doing a £50 off on the a50 if you take in an old phone (I have a HTC that I paid £10 from Tesco three years ago in a drawer) - hopefully they do the same with the a70...
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Where is that A50 offer, online with Samsung? I know some markets have done a "regardless of condition / whether it's working", which would be a good way to dispose of my non-booting Note 3.
Andre

Hi,
Yes the OFFICIAL price in EUROPE (with tax included) is €399, for the version with 6GB of RAM and 128GB of Internal Storage. I'll prefer for this price to have the 8GB of RAM, but I feel Samsung doesn't likes to sell that model in Europe (like the 6GB of A50).
I hope to see some offerts around €350, as that's a good price for it!

I'm guessing we'll get the 6GB version too. Samsung UK support told me in an online livechat (no confirmed dates from them yet by the way) that the A70 will feature an Exynos chipset, which seems contrary to everything I've read so far (which says Snapdragon 675). I'm guessing they got it wrong to be honest.
Andre

andrewilley said:
UK price was confirmed pre-launch as £369, but Samsung UK have gone very quiet on the subject now. Although there is a product page on their site (https://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-a70/SM-A705FZBUBTU/ which was actually there from before the start of the big Launch Event on 10 April) there is no pricing or any pre-order option yet.
I do hope it will actually arrive on 26 April as promised, as my main workhorse device has recently died and I'm having to use an old Galaxy S4 in the meantime, and the A70 looks like a perfect replacement for me on paper at least - big screen, big battery, decent enough processor for non-gaming use, decent enough camera as I use a DSLR for real photos, and a 3.5mm jack and SD Card slot.
Andre
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Funny because my story is very similar. I had S8 which died, so now I'm back on my old S4 which barely holds any charge and is so slow and janky (with custom ROM). After using S8 for almost 2 years I realized that I hate curved screens with passion. A70 seems like a perfect phone for my needs, I'm actually counting days until it hits stores.

Glotttis said:
Funny because my story is very similar. I had S8 which died, so now I'm back on my old S4 which barely holds any charge and is so slow and janky (with custom ROM). After using S8 for almost 2 years I realized that I hate curved screens with passion. A70 seems like a perfect phone for my needs, I'm actually counting days until it hits stores.
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Everyone hates curved-edge screens, but no one wants to admit it. My girlfriend wants to get rid of her S8 (she reminds me every day how much she hates the curved screen :laugh. She's thinking about replacing it with a P30. I'm probably going to replace my LG G6 with the A70. I really miss a bigger battery and screen from my Huawei mate 7 days. Can't wait. Counting days with you! :highfive:

Samsung's customer contact team (UK) still doesn't seem to have any idea when the A70 will be released. They said this morning that they'll email me when they know anything more.
I did refer them to their own Press Release dated 27 March, which clearly states "The Galaxy A70 will be available in the UK from 26th April, RRP £369", see https://news.samsung.com/uk/capture-connect-and-conquer-with-the-new-samsung-galaxy-a70 (unless they redact it anyway).
Hey ho, just don't expect the left hand and the right hand to know what the other is doing.
Andre

I just had a reply in response to my email to the contact address that was given in the Samsung Press Release. They said:
Thanks for your email.
Yes as per the release, the A70 model will be available to purchase in the UK from next Friday, 26 April.
You can find out more information on the product here.
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Perhaps they should inform their own online sales team then, and their customer services department, and maybe even retailers?
Andre

I contacted Samsung UK again (via their FB messenger) as there is still no availability info from their own website, nor from any retailers in the the UK, and they replied:
We can confirm that the A70 will be released on Friday, but there will be no pre-order, as this only occurs with our flagship models. Also, we are unable to confirm which retailers will be selling the phone, so are unable to comment on where it will be available.
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Fingers crossed then, but it does seem odd for there to be such little fanfare, or even any demo units in stores, just a couple of days before a Samsung release though. I was hoping to go and see Avengers Endgame on Friday morning and buy a new phone in the afternoon.
Andre

Bad news guys, release date for A70 according to Amazon.de is May 15th. That would explain why there is no availability info in UK and elsewhere in Europe because it's still 3 weeks off.

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Bad news guys, release date for A70 according to Amazon.de is May 15th..
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If true, that would mean Samsung's customer service team doesn't know its arse from its elbow. So, would that come as any great surprise to anyone?
Andre

andrewilley said:
I contacted Samsung UK again (via their FB messenger) as there is still no availability info from their own website, nor from any retailers in the the UK, and they replied:
Fingers crossed then, but it does seem odd for there to be such little fanfare, or even any demo units in stores, just a couple of days before a Samsung release though. I was hoping to go and see Avengers Endgame on Friday morning and buy a new phone in the afternoon.
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When the A50 was launched a few weeks ago there was no fanfare or pre registration, it just became available to buy in stock on the release day.
The concerning thing for me is that most European retailers are claiming they won't be getting stock until mid May and the A50 was launched in most European markets before the UK so it seems strange that they would reverse the release for the A70. And I doubt there would be a 3 week gap between a UK release and a European one.
Just gotta wait and see what happens tomorrow I suppose. Argos was the 1st retailer to stock the A50 when that was released so I'd keep an eye on their website tomorrow

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Bad news guys, release date for A70 according to Amazon.de is May 15th. That would explain why there is no availability info in UK and elsewhere in Europe because it's still 3 weeks off.
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I've been reading from multiple sources that it's tomorrow the 26th in Europe,maybe Amazon won't have it till May or maybe it is May,but I wouldn't be surprised to see it in my local Argos in the next few days,not really bothered mind you,still on the fence with this one

manus31 said:
but I wouldn't be surprised to see it in my local Argos in the next few days,
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I did message Argos and they said they don't have any info (and they checked with the B'ham store and they have no stocks waiting for release) but sometimes these things just drop onto their system without notice, so to check back tomorrow. Not holding my breath though.
Oh well, going to see Avengers End Game in the morning anyway, so that'll be some consolation if no phone yet.
Andre

Samsung have now re-edited their press release to say "The Galaxy A70 will be available in the UK from the 3rd May, RRP £369". Also Caphone Warehouse have messaged me back to say A40, A50 and A70 all on 1st May. Ho hum.
On the plus side, The Avengers was very good.
Andre

See it on Amazon Germany: https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Galax...+A70+Smartphone&qid=1556293783&s=ce-de&sr=1-3
Price €399 and delivery at 15th May.

General [INDIA] Galaxy S21 Ultra news, pre-order, offers etc. discussion thread.

Too early to believe, but Samsung Opera House(Bengaluru) has started taking blind prebooking for the Galaxy S21 series already as per THIS article.
Unsurprisingly India would get the Exynos 2100 SoC in this series and I just hope it performs on par with Snapdragon 888.

Why would they make the screen smaller for the s21 ultra than the existing one ? No one seems to have mentioned this.

yeah its only .100" smaller, too me that`s not a big thing for me, but the thing is it will have the LTPO display which I guess is supposed to give better contrast to black colors, also I`m not sure but i have heard talk of the fingerprint reader being 2x faster...... so well see, I`ll be ordering one in the unlocked in black the 512gb version

In the USA you can register for your S21 in the Samsung Shop app. Looks like you get an extra $70 store credit for registering. Can't wait to get the S21 ultra!

droidrev71 said:
In the USA you can register for your S21 in the Samsung Shop app. Looks like you get an extra $70 store credit for registering. Can't wait to get the S21 ultra!
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The thing I like about Samsung out here in India is that with perks of cashbacks & coupons(if prebooked) the pricing becomes eqivalent to the USA pricing(has been so far) ..
I'm finding the news [email protected] S21 series interesting too. Will get "Exynos" but highly it feels like it would be on par this time around, if not better, excluding the GPU.

I seriously hope the LTPO on the S21 series is far more superior to the one on Note 20U.
I had serious banding/green tint issues and a horrible battery drain problem due to it. The 60fps video recording also had hunting issues even with laser auto focus.
I'm back to S20U, the display feels a lot more stable and a long lasting battery.

2003vstrom said:
yeah its only .100" smaller, too me that`s not a big thing for me, but the thing is it will have the LTPO display which I guess is supposed to give better contrast to black colors, also I`m not sure but i have heard talk of the fingerprint reader being 2x faster...... so well see, I`ll be ordering one in the unlocked in black the 512gb version
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We're coming from S10+ getting the Ultra cause of the specs and my husband likes the camera features. It'll probably be to big for me but I am getting it. We won't upgrade for a while so I want the best of the bunch.

Do you think there will be any discounts with pricing if you don't trade in? I have a S9+ right now and am waffling back and forth between getting the S21 Ultra or getting a Note 20 Ultra ($800 thru work).

Have pre-reserved for S21 series because I thought we'd get the Buds Pro and Smart tag as preorder offers alongwith the free case. That is what the leakers had said a few days back but not it seems Buds Pro won't be part of the offer. Also coupled with missing charger and possible missing SD card and extra charges for SPen, will it be worth spending so much extra to sell my Note 20 U for the S21U?
P.S. The only reason I was willing to upgrade was because my Note 20 U is getting heated up a lot + because of the Exynos 2100 finally catching up to SD.

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Have pre-reserved for S21 series because I thought we'd get the Buds Pro and Smart tag as preorder offers alongwith the free case. That is what the leakers had said a few days back but not it seems Buds Pro won't be part of the offer. Also coupled with missing charger and possible missing SD card and extra charges for SPen, will it be worth spending so much extra to sell my Note 20 U for the S21U?
P.S. The only reason I was willing to upgrade was because my Note 20 U is getting heated up a lot + because of the Exynos 2100 finally catching up to SD.
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You got the VIP pass for the next Galaxy after you pre reserved it?
In India prebooking is of no use, last time for the Note 20U the cashback and freebies were offered even to customers who did not prebook and bought the phone well after the prebook purchase window. (craze for flagships in India are at an all time low, thanks to OnePlus and Samsung themselves).
Also the Note 20U was up in the corporate program with 5% discount in a matter of few days including the 9k cashback and freebies.
I will get the S21U only during the first week of Feb.

I'm expecting the price to be around 90k for S21U 256gig, anything more than that, I might as well wait for Z flip 2/3 later in April.

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You got the VIP pass for the next Galaxy after you pre reserved it?
In India prebooking is of no use, last time for the Note 20U the cashback and freebies were offered even to customers who did not prebook and bought the phone well after the prebook purchase window. (craze for flagships in India are at an all time low, thanks to OnePlus and Samsung themselves).
Also the Note 20U was up in the corporate program with 5% discount in a matter of few days including the 9k cashback and freebies.
I will get the S21U only during the first week of Feb.
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No I didn't get any VIP pass. Was I supposed to? If I don't like what I see tomorrow, I am going to just refund my ₹2000 and wait for Feb/March to buy it. The only thing keeping me from the flip/fold is that the camera is always a generation behind in these devices.

I for one, do no find these "pre-registering"(or any other name) hulabaloos fascinating at all given that it's a Samsung flagship.
Irrespective of card/cash or other payment methods, I've been getting Samsung flagships on the very 1st day of market release buying from small retailers for a much lower price than the price quoted by bigger retailers or the biggest retailers with a fixed price or buying directly from Samsung online or offline for quite sometime now. The cost everytime turns out to be the lowest this way in comparison to the cost combined with any other CC/DC cashbacks/corporate offers/exchange offers/finance schemes etc... you name it.
Samsung tends(or "pretends" to be precise) to be strict with such retailers but being consumers all we need is a genuinely sourced product and a proper invoice. It makes sense because once we want to sell it later, the resale value will not at all differ based on which store we bought it from.
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In my case, prebooking offers are always applicable in the first place as one or the other re-seller does pre-booking taking the required credentials after me getting bombarded with calls soon after official announcement of the flagship.

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I for one, do no find these "pre-registering"(or any other name) hulabaloos fascinating at all given that it's a Samsung flagship.
Irrespective of card/cash or other payment methods, I've been getting Samsung flagships on the very 1st day of market release buying from small retailers for a much lower price than the price quoted by bigger retailers or the biggest retailers with a fixed price or buying directly from Samsung online or offline for quite sometime now. The cost everytime turns out to be the lowest this way in comparison to the cost combined with any other CC/DC cashbacks/corporate offers/exchange offers/finance schemes etc... you name it.
Samsung tends(or "pretends" to be precise) to be strict with such retailers but being consumers all we need is a genuinely sourced product and a proper invoice. It makes sense because once we want to sell it later, the resale value will not at all differ based on which store we bought it from.
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In my case, prebooking offers are always applicable in the first place as one or the other re-seller does pre-booking taking the required credentials after me getting bombarded with calls soon after official announcement of the flagship.
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Smaller retailer like non Samsung but authorized dealers like Sangeetha Mobiles, Chroma, Reliance Digital?
By how much you get a discount on the selling price, I have never tried this as I always get it from the Samsung Cafe.
I kinda feel awkward asking for a discount in Samsung Cafes

Kiran-Kumar said:
Smaller retailer like non Samsung but authorized dealers like Sangeetha Mobiles, Croma, Reliance Digital?
By how much you get a discount on the selling price, I have never tried this as I always get it from the Samsung Cafe.
I kinda feel awkward asking for a discount in Samsung Cafes
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No not those big formats, they don't as they don't need to and they can't either. Smart cafés can but they will not.
Instead, approach a few small multibrand players if you have time for it. They need flagship buyers to stay alive in the eyes of big brands for their own promotion/survival and to do so, they let go of it for extremely thin margins.
I happened to purchase two N20U units costing 90k each from two diff. sellers(when it was 1st released) - that's one example.

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No not those big formats, they don't as they don't need to and they can't either. Smart cafés can but they will not.
Instead, approach a few small multibrand players if you have time for it. They need flagship buyers to stay alive in the eyes of big brands for their own promotion/survival and to do so, they let go of it for extremely thin margins.
I happened to purchase two N20U units costing 90k each from two diff. sellers(when it was 1st released) - that's one example.
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Thank you...Will go out and look for such small time dealers tomorrow and establish a comfort zone before end of this month.

zaydenQ said:
No I didn't get any VIP pass. Was I supposed to? If I don't like what I see tomorrow, I am going to just refund my ₹2000 and wait for Feb/March to buy it. The only thing keeping me from the flip/fold is that the camera is always a generation behind in these devices.
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Thatz true, the cameras on the flip and fold were bad.
Since we do not have a Note 21 this year, hope flip and fold are equipped with better camera system.

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....... I always get it from the Samsung Cafe.
kinda feel awkward asking for a discount in Samsung Cafes
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AFAIK, Samsung smart cafe franchises actually get the highest profit margins for each product they sell compared to other resellers. And it's the marketing skills and subsequent illusions created by the staff that make one feel awkward to ask for a discount.... Nope? The one running the franchise CAN give big discounts, but doesn't want to. They actually ended up giving me discounts a few times in the past but then I stopped visiting them lately as altogether I don't find it worth it.

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AFAIK, Samsung smart cafe franchises actually get the highest profit margins for each product they sell compared to other resellers. And it's the marketing skills and subsequent illusions created by the staff that make one feel awkward to ask for a discount.... Nope? The one running the franchise CAN give big discounts, but doesn't want to. They actually ended up giving me discounts a few times in the past but then I stopped visiting them lately as altogether I don't find it worth it.
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I have shortlisted a few small time detailers, will visit them tomorrow...btw Amazon has already started selling S21plus/ultra cases. They also have a video which shows the phone in its entirety
ESR Metal Kickstand Case Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 6.8-Inch 2021, Slim Silicone with Matte Finish Portrait and Landscape Stand Back Cover -Translucent Black : Amazon.in: Electronics
ESR Metal Kickstand Case Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 6.8-Inch 2021, Slim Silicone with Matte Finish Portrait and Landscape Stand Back Cover -Translucent Black : Amazon.in: Electronics
www.amazon.in

No microsd card slot....pretty much I'm out of it. thank you Samsung