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I'm stuck on Verizon but I absolutely need a phone with an unlocked bootloader for what I'm trying to accomplish.
From what I can tell the Moto X seems like a good option. Unfortunately, what I've read seems to imply that the Verizon version's bootloader cannot be unlocked. Is that correct?
So other than getting the developer edition of the phone (which is obviously much more expensive), do the Verizon Moto Xs from the online motorola store have an unlocked bootloader or are they the same as one purchased from Verizon?
I apologize if this has been asked before, but I was unable to find a clear answer. Would really appreciate if someone could please clarify.
Thanks
newbie455 said:
I'm stuck on Verizon but I absolutely need a phone with an unlocked bootloader for what I'm trying to accomplish.
From what I can tell the Moto X seems like a good option. Unfortunately, what I've read seems to imply that the Verizon version's bootloader cannot be unlocked.
So other than getting the developer edition of the phone (which is obviously much more expensive), do the Verizon Moto Xs from the online motorola store have an unlocked bootloader?
I apologize if this has been asked before, but I was unable to find a clear answer.
Thanks
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Here is a list of "unlockable" Moto devices.. Its not the most current..but current enuff to answer your question..
Here >> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...sion/L3RpbWUvMTM5MjA4OTk3OC9zaWQvQ3FFdnNETWw=
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newbie455 said:
I'm stuck on Verizon but I absolutely need a phone with an unlocked bootloader for what I'm trying to accomplish.
From what I can tell the Moto X seems like a good option. Unfortunately, what I've read seems to imply that the Verizon version's bootloader cannot be unlocked. Is that correct?
So other than getting the developer edition of the phone (which is obviously much more expensive), do the Verizon Moto Xs from the online motorola store have an unlocked bootloader or are they the same as one purchased from Verizon?
I apologize if this has been asked before, but I was unable to find a clear answer. Would really appreciate if someone could please clarify.
Thanks
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Get the Developer Eidtion for Verizon. I think it's on sale ending today. There's a coupon code floating around I saw that will take off $100 dollars or so.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/07/18/deal-alert-moto-x-going-least-100-coupon-code-motorola-com/
Coupon Code
newbie455 said:
I'm stuck on Verizon but I absolutely need a phone with an unlocked bootloader for what I'm trying to accomplish.
From what I can tell the Moto X seems like a good option. Unfortunately, what I've read seems to imply that the Verizon version's bootloader cannot be unlocked. Is that correct?
So other than getting the developer edition of the phone (which is obviously much more expensive), do the Verizon Moto Xs from the online motorola store have an unlocked bootloader or are they the same as one purchased from Verizon?
I apologize if this has been asked before, but I was unable to find a clear answer. Would really appreciate if someone could please clarify.
Thanks
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WHen it comes to the Moto X for Verizon there are 3 ways to get it... Developer Edition (on Moto's Dev Edition web site), Moto Maker edition (Moto's web site), or Verizon store (aka Retail edition).
The Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon have their bootloaders LOCKED. Motorola does NOT give out the bootloader unlock code. The only way to unlock it, would be if the Chinese Middleman (see thread in general section) is still available and selling codes, but he hasn't been as reliable lately (some users have received wrong code, some have received message back saying no code available).
They use the same rom, radio, baseband, etc. They have the same software pre-installed, the same features, etc.
The Dev Edition comes only as Black Front, woven white back that says Dev Edition, silver accents (buttons and camera ring), 32gig, and unlocking the bootloader does NOT void the warranty.
The Moto Maker and Retail are basically the same, except available as 16 or 32 gig, fully customizable front/back/accents, and unlocking is not possible via Motorola. The only possibility is IF the Chinese Middleman will sell the code.
Whats the difference... my Verizon rep is providing pricing and options for the regular edition and the "Moto Maker Edition", but on the Motorola website all I see is the "Developer Edition" and in other news stories I see "Pure Edition"... whats the difference? Purely symantics for the same unlocked bootloader version of the Moto X 2014?
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bkfitz said:
Whats the difference... my Verizon rep is providing pricing and options for the regular edition and the "Moto Maker Edition", but on the Motorola website all I see is the "Developer Edition" and in other news stories I see "Pure Edition"... whats the difference? Purely symantics for the same unlocked bootloader version of the Moto X 2014?
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Moto 2013 - dev edition had an unlockable bootloader. you could get a version for at&t/tmobile or for verizon
Moto 2014 - pure edition has an unlockable bootloader and no carrier branding or apps. you can only get this for at&t/tmobile at full retail price through motorola's moto maker, and you can customize the colors and storage
Moto maker - lets you customize the design of your moto x (2013 and 2014). can not be used on the 2013 dev editions
there's some confusion here because you can use moto maker to make a pure edition moto x. however the important thing to know on verizon is you have 2 options: a preconfigured color & storage straight from verizon, or a customized version through moto maker. however you cannot get a pure edition on verizon
bkfitz said:
Whats the difference... my Verizon rep is providing pricing and options for the regular edition and the "Moto Maker Edition", but on the Motorola website all I see is the "Developer Edition" and in other news stories I see "Pure Edition"... whats the difference? Purely symantics for the same unlocked bootloader version of the Moto X 2014?
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Moto Maker is the version where you get to customize it and select the colors you want. If you get this option and use either AT&T or VZW the bootloader will be locked down and not available to be unlocked unless someone comes up with a method to do so.
Pure Edition is a GSM only version (works on T-Mobile and AT&T) and it is sim unlocked as well as bootloader unlockable (the new GSM Dev edition)
Developer Edition is only available on the old Moto X, that was the version you have to pay full price for just like the current Pure, but the old Moto X had a VZW Dev Edition.
Excellent... thx. I guess I'll be getting the standard VZW one and then hoping "someone comes up with a method to do so"
BrokenWall said:
Moto Maker is the version where you get to customize it and select the colors you want. If you get this option and use either AT&T or VZW the bootloader will be locked down and not available to be unlocked unless someone comes up with a method to do so.
Pure Edition is a GSM only version (works on T-Mobile and AT&T) and it is sim unlocked as well as bootloader unlockable (the new GSM Dev edition)
Developer Edition is only available on the old Moto X, that was the version you have to pay full price for just like the current Pure, but the old Moto X had a VZW Dev Edition.
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Excellent... thx. I guess I'll be getting the standard VZW one and then hoping "someone comes up with a method to do so"
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As of right now, if you order a Verizon Moto X, you will be getting last years. They don't have an officially announced model yet (and I am speculating they could just release the new Droid (that looks really cool) and not an X).
My Verizon rep (we're Gov) definitely sent me pricing info on the "New Moto X - 5.2" etc... when I asked him yesterday AM he hadn't heard anything yet... but after doing some digging he was able to provide pricing etc this morning....
Note10.1Dude said:
As of right now, if you order a Verizon Moto X, you will be getting last years. They don't have an officially announced model yet (and I am speculating they could just release the new Droid (that looks really cool) and not an X).
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I'm a little bit confused. I want a moto x with all the moto apps like moto assist, voice control and active display. If I want to root the device and install xposed framework. Which one do I have to buy? I'm living in Germany and when I go to moto maker there is nothing I can't choose among different versions, except in storage size and colour.
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I'm a little bit confused. I want a moto x with all the moto apps like moto assist, voice control and active display. If I want to root the device and install xposed framework. Which one do I have to buy? I'm living in Germany and when I go to moto maker there is nothing I can't choose among different versions, except in storage size and colour.
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All of this model discussion is for US models. There should be just one EU model (that I am aware of) that should work with all common bands in the EU and have the software of the Pure edition. The issue here is the US mobile industry is a mess and controlled by the mobile networks, making moving between providers (or traveling out of the US) a pain in the neck.
Unless your on T-Mobile in which case you can go overseas no problem. Love T-Mobile!
Singapore Use
Hi,
I live in Singapore. I just wanted to check that the pure edition should work here if I can get it shipped to me?
I know the LTE is not working for now but it should work on HSPA+ I think.
Will it still get the updates from Motorola/Google or are those USA specific?
Thanks a lot.
Santino
Has anyone reached out to Motorola to see if there will be a developer edition of the Turbo. I know Motorola confirmed no developer for motox gen 2. But i haven't heard any confirmations on the turbo! Anyone have any feedback ?
Somewhere else in the forum i thought i read that there were no plans for any dev edition, at least in the near future.
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From Motorola or verizon. Note4 developer was just released for Verizon for developer a little while back,
coreywallen said:
Somewhere else in the forum i thought i read that there were no plans for any dev edition, at least in the near future.
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I just contacted them.
The representative said that they don't have the information on when the Droid Turbo Developer Edition will be released but he assures me that "that is the phone that is next online to be released on our end."
I think "online" was meant to be "in line."
Thoughts?
Roobix said:
I just contacted them.
The representative said that they don't have the information on when the Droid Turbo Developer Edition will be released but he assures me that "that is the phone that is next online to be released on our end."
I think "online" was meant to be "in line."
Thoughts?
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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If it does happen I could see them pulling a 2nd Gen moto thing. It will be a 'pure' edition and won't be compatible for Verizon
I'm thinking it will be a Pure Edition thing too, which I would love to have since I'm on T Mobile.
I wonder why moto can't/won't release a dev edition ROM for current and provide a way to securely flash it; they could even charge for it and I would be fine with it. All a dev edition changes is the status of the bootloader, correct? There isn't anything physically different between the two devices right?
Roobix said:
I just contacted them.
The representative said that they don't have the information on when the Droid Turbo Developer Edition will be released but he assures me that "that is the phone that is next online to be released on our end."
I think "online" was meant to be "in line."
Thoughts?
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Was this from Verizon or Motorola? If it was Verizon, I'd put about a 1% confidence rating; if Motorola I'd put a 35% confidence rating.
That being said: I'd sell my Turbo in a heartbeat for a developer version.
Same here I would be surprised if it actually comes out. If so it looks like I would be passing mine out for a good price to pick up the developer edition.
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Was this from Verizon or Motorola? If it was Verizon, I'd put about a 1% confidence rating; if Motorola I'd put a 35% confidence rating.
That being said: I'd sell my Turbo in a heartbeat for a developer version.
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It was from Motorola. The Droid Maxx developer edition was released one month after the release of the Droid Maxx, so it could be soon...
Has anyone else contacted Motorola?
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It was from Motorola. The Droid Maxx developer edition was released one month after the release of the Droid Maxx, so it could be soon...
Has anyone else contacted Motorola?
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I did and they said they had no information if there was or was not going to be a Droid Turbo Developer Edition available.
Turbo, developer edition, what a dream phone. A rootable device running pure Android. Please Motorola, make it real.
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I really want a turbo, but was planning on waiting a few months so i can grab one used. I'd probably sell my girlfriend for a developer edition though.
I'm running a 2013 X now, but i'm switching back to a verizon reseller instead of t-mobile, and i just managed to grab a MAXX dev edition used, which should keep me happy for a few months.
Already have a rootable editon, its. Moto maxx.
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I wonder why moto can't/won't release a dev edition ROM for current and provide a way to securely flash it; they could even charge for it and I would be fine with it. All a dev edition changes is the status of the bootloader, correct? There isn't anything physically different between the two devices right?
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Because carriers.
matheus_sc said:
Already have a rootable editon, its. Moto maxx.
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This is why we need a maxx sub forum.
No we do not have a rootable edition. Droid Turbo is the name of the forum, and the Maxx is useless on Verizon, where nearly all Turbo users are with them.
I honestly dont think there will be a developer edition for the turbo on verizon. Heck I really dont believe the nexus will come to verizon just from talking to some reps. They said they nexus to work on the network never said anything about getting it to be bought through verizon. Just stating my opinion. Those of you waiting to get the nexus 6 should be better off going through google or motorola.
So still no developer / pure edition for this beast? I'd pick that up immediately.
EDIT: upon further research, I wouldn't. No reliable data/voice while driving on highways (as the phone does sometimes switch to 3g). What a shame.
Ive unlocked the developer edition of my turbo by pressing the Build number in the about phone settings five times.
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I know I am a newb here. But why Post Moto Maxx info in Droid Turbo Forums. Can someone please explain this to me?
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I know I am a newb here. But why Post Moto Maxx info in Droid Turbo Forums. Can someone please explain this to me?
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From a hardware standpoint, it is the same exact device. Sold in markets outside the US. Not to be confused with Droid Maxx from last year.
Fourty8 said:
From a hardware standpoint, it is the same exact device. Sold in markets outside the US. Not to be confused with Droid Maxx from last year.
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Thank you.
Fourty8 said:
From a hardware standpoint, it is the same exact device. Sold in markets outside the US. Not to be confused with Droid Maxx from last year.
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Except for the radios. No CDMA on the Maxx, right?
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Someone will come along and correct me if I'm wrong but there are two variants, one with a CDMA radio (XT1224) sold on Verizon exclusively as the Droid Turbo and a GSM variant (XT1225) the Moto Maxx. The latter variant comes in two different enabled radio configurations, the one being sold currently in Brazil and Mexico and one that went through the FCC which is on sale in PR only for the moment.
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Thank you.
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also, we've asked mods for a forum specifically for the Moto Maxx and had no answer yet
krabman said:
Someone will come along and correct me if I'm wrong but there are two variants, one with a CDMA radio (XT1224) sold on Verizon exclusively as the Droid Turbo and a GSM variant (XT1225) the Moto Maxx. The latter variant comes in two different enabled radio configurations, the one being sold currently in Brazil and Mexico and one that went through the FCC which is on sale in PR only for the moment.
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As you requested: Verizon CDMA/LTE is XT1254
No one is going to do any real development on this device at this point so no need to waste two forums. There really isn't anything meaningful to talk about on XDA regarding the Turbo and the moto maxx doesn't have a big enough following. This has to be the most disappointing phone of 2014 from a development standout for users. no?
lol Thanks. I'm Maxx and already have everything I need with root. I would not have purchased the Turbo because of the bootloader. Been caught before with one that never unlocked and that was a lesson learned.
rayjr13 said:
As you requested: Verizon CDMA/LTE is XT1254
No one is going to do any real development on this device at this point so no need to waste two forums. There really isn't anything meaningful to talk about on XDA regarding the Turbo and the moto maxx doesn't have a big enough following. This has to be the most disappointing phone of 2014 from a development standout for users. no?
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At least moto maxx users like me have root that actually this is good enough for this really brilliant phone.
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rayjr13 said:
As you requested: Verizon CDMA/LTE is XT1254
No one is going to do any real development on this device at this point so no need to waste two forums. There really isn't anything meaningful to talk about on XDA regarding the Turbo and the moto maxx doesn't have a big enough following. This has to be the most disappointing phone of 2014 from a development standout for users. no?
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Develop apps, it is more rewarding than ricing out a phone and doesn't rely on root.
Huiver said:
At least moto maxx users like me have root that actually this is good enough for this really brilliant phone.
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Yea I think that Maxx would be a nice nice phone
adrynalyne said:
Develop apps, it is more rewarding than ricing out a phone and doesn't rely on root.
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Wow now that's a face I haven't crossed in a while! I thank you and my BAMF Tbolt thanks you (well my son's...now) Outside of making phone calls, it's kinda all rice to me short grain and long grains. I enjoy em all!
some forecast the arrival of Android 5.1 for the Moto Maxx/Turbo ?
LuanGuima14 said:
some forecast the arrival of Android 5.1 for the Moto Maxx/Turbo ?
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no
Believe me, when we find out, you won't be able to not find out anywhere on this forum.
I think we have some news in next week maybe
Of the next week or the next or the next or the next ahahaha
When lolipop is coming to TURBO
My Son's Galaxy S4 just got Android 5.0! But yet nothing for the Turbo, Nice Job Moto!!!!
i think they are holding android 5.1 to release for Droid turbo and last year droid maxx
It looks like they are slower with the updates after the sale to lenovo. Jaoco, is there an optimized stock based custom rom from latin american forums for the xt1225 ?
LuanGuima14 said:
some forecast the arrival of Android 5.1 for the Moto Maxx/Turbo ?
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Yay, yet another "when will the update come" post
aman1127 said:
Yay, yet another "when will the update come" post
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I agree, it gets old. A simple question mark in the thread title and I would have avoided the post altogether. It is pretty obvious by reading many of the threads here what the status of lollipop is...
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Yay, yet another "when will the update come" post
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it is quite normal to ask for android 5.1 update for the moto maxx when moto x 2014 already got the 5.1 in the same region. it is not rocket science.
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To the people complaining about the update speed: Maxx (Xt1225) already have Lollipop, and though it wasn't immediatelly after its release, it was way ahead of a lot of devices. The problem with turbo is Verizon, not Motorola. I'm just reforcing this because if Verizon is delaying the update then there is nothing Motorola can do, so complainig to them is useless, but people dont seem to understand that. And I personally think Motorola is better with Lenovo than Google, first because Google wanted to keep Motorola a company apart from then and second because they were only interested in Motorola's patents, and Lenovo seems to be interested in using Motorola to take a share on the mobile market. I would be pissed too if my carrier didn't provide me the latest updates in a reasonable time (specially for a flagship), but instead of complaining to the wrong culprit, I would just change carriers (and I did sometimes here in Brazil). But I'm hoping you guys get this update soon.
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some forecast the arrival of Android 5.1 for the Moto Maxx/Turbo ?
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No
Unfortunately there isn't despite the nasty vpn and ipv6 bug kitkat has.
LuanGuima14 said:
some forecast the arrival of Android 5.1 for the Moto Maxx/Turbo ?
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My guess is 5.1 won't come to the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 until it comes to the XT1254 Droid Turbo.
Of the Quark phones, XT1225 already has Lollipop 5.0.2 while the XT1254 still has 4.4.4. Don't think Motorola will update the XT1225 yet again, while the Droid Turbo has not received any OS updates since being released in October 2014 -- whether it's Motorola's fault or not (cough - Verizon).
Which means the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 also won't receive Lollipop until it's FCC ID twin, the XT1254 receives Lollipop. It also is stuck on 4.4.4, as far as I know.
I think the OTA update for all three Quarks -- XT1225, XT1254, XT1250 will come about the same time -- when Verizon approves the 5.1 update for the Droid Turbo. Yeah, I know Verizon doesn't control the fate of phones not on their network. I'm not saying they do. But Motorola is owned by Lenovo, an Asian company where "saving face", not embarrassing business partners is ingrained in the corporate culture. If the other Quarks receive 5.1, and the Droid Turbo does not, that makes Verizon look worse than they already do. I just feel Motorola won't do that.
Hopefully, I'm wrong with that guess and 5.1 comes next week!
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My guess is 5.1 won't come to the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 until it comes to the XT1254 Droid Turbo.
Of the Quark phones, XT1225 already has Lollipop 5.0.2 while the XT1254 still has 4.4.4. Don't think Motorola will update the XT1225 yet again, while the Droid Turbo has not received any OS updates since being released in October 2014 -- whether it's Motorola's fault or not (cough - Verizon).
Which means the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 also won't receive Lollipop until it's FCC ID twin, the XT1254 receives Lollipop. It also is stuck on 4.4.4, as far as I know.
I think the OTA update for all three Quarks -- XT1225, XT1254, XT1250 will come about the same time -- when Verizon approves the 5.1 update for the Droid Turbo. Yeah, I know Verizon doesn't control the fate of phones not on their network. I'm not saying they do. But Motorola is owned by Lenovo, an Asian company where "saving face", not embarrassing business partners is ingrained in the corporate culture. If the other Quarks receive 5.1, and the Droid Turbo does not, that makes Verizon look worse than they already do. I just feel Motorola won't do that.
Hopefully, I'm wrong with that guess and 5.1 comes next week!
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You are right in everything you said, but about "an Asian company where "saving face", not embarrassing business partners is ingrained in the corporate culture", you have to take in mind that customers also have a big play here, so my bet is that they won't care so much on Verizon, but instead would push the update to other markets whether Verizon is ready or not.
All this delays on the updates for the Turbo are directly related to Verizon, so I don't think a whole company stop it update process and mechanics just because a carrier.
The other point here, is that Verizon is not any carrier, is the carrier that each year release the Droid line and they have had a really close relation to Verizon for many years, so I guess the coin is in the air: bet for customers or bet for Verizon?.
Why can't Motorola just release a signed update zip that we manually flash?
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Why can't Motorola just release a signed update zip that we manually flash?
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Because they undoubtedly have an agreement with Verizon that they'll wait for Verizon to approve any updates before they push them. Breaking that agreement would be a great way to get Verizon to not let any new Motorola phones on their network.