some forecast the arrival of Android 5.1 for the Moto Maxx/Turbo ?
LuanGuima14 said:
some forecast the arrival of Android 5.1 for the Moto Maxx/Turbo ?
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no
Believe me, when we find out, you won't be able to not find out anywhere on this forum.
I think we have some news in next week maybe
Of the next week or the next or the next or the next ahahaha
When lolipop is coming to TURBO
My Son's Galaxy S4 just got Android 5.0! But yet nothing for the Turbo, Nice Job Moto!!!!
i think they are holding android 5.1 to release for Droid turbo and last year droid maxx
It looks like they are slower with the updates after the sale to lenovo. Jaoco, is there an optimized stock based custom rom from latin american forums for the xt1225 ?
LuanGuima14 said:
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Yay, yet another "when will the update come" post
aman1127 said:
Yay, yet another "when will the update come" post
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I agree, it gets old. A simple question mark in the thread title and I would have avoided the post altogether. It is pretty obvious by reading many of the threads here what the status of lollipop is...
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Yay, yet another "when will the update come" post
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it is quite normal to ask for android 5.1 update for the moto maxx when moto x 2014 already got the 5.1 in the same region. it is not rocket science.
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To the people complaining about the update speed: Maxx (Xt1225) already have Lollipop, and though it wasn't immediatelly after its release, it was way ahead of a lot of devices. The problem with turbo is Verizon, not Motorola. I'm just reforcing this because if Verizon is delaying the update then there is nothing Motorola can do, so complainig to them is useless, but people dont seem to understand that. And I personally think Motorola is better with Lenovo than Google, first because Google wanted to keep Motorola a company apart from then and second because they were only interested in Motorola's patents, and Lenovo seems to be interested in using Motorola to take a share on the mobile market. I would be pissed too if my carrier didn't provide me the latest updates in a reasonable time (specially for a flagship), but instead of complaining to the wrong culprit, I would just change carriers (and I did sometimes here in Brazil). But I'm hoping you guys get this update soon.
LuanGuima14 said:
some forecast the arrival of Android 5.1 for the Moto Maxx/Turbo ?
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No
Unfortunately there isn't despite the nasty vpn and ipv6 bug kitkat has.
LuanGuima14 said:
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My guess is 5.1 won't come to the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 until it comes to the XT1254 Droid Turbo.
Of the Quark phones, XT1225 already has Lollipop 5.0.2 while the XT1254 still has 4.4.4. Don't think Motorola will update the XT1225 yet again, while the Droid Turbo has not received any OS updates since being released in October 2014 -- whether it's Motorola's fault or not (cough - Verizon).
Which means the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 also won't receive Lollipop until it's FCC ID twin, the XT1254 receives Lollipop. It also is stuck on 4.4.4, as far as I know.
I think the OTA update for all three Quarks -- XT1225, XT1254, XT1250 will come about the same time -- when Verizon approves the 5.1 update for the Droid Turbo. Yeah, I know Verizon doesn't control the fate of phones not on their network. I'm not saying they do. But Motorola is owned by Lenovo, an Asian company where "saving face", not embarrassing business partners is ingrained in the corporate culture. If the other Quarks receive 5.1, and the Droid Turbo does not, that makes Verizon look worse than they already do. I just feel Motorola won't do that.
Hopefully, I'm wrong with that guess and 5.1 comes next week!
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My guess is 5.1 won't come to the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 until it comes to the XT1254 Droid Turbo.
Of the Quark phones, XT1225 already has Lollipop 5.0.2 while the XT1254 still has 4.4.4. Don't think Motorola will update the XT1225 yet again, while the Droid Turbo has not received any OS updates since being released in October 2014 -- whether it's Motorola's fault or not (cough - Verizon).
Which means the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 also won't receive Lollipop until it's FCC ID twin, the XT1254 receives Lollipop. It also is stuck on 4.4.4, as far as I know.
I think the OTA update for all three Quarks -- XT1225, XT1254, XT1250 will come about the same time -- when Verizon approves the 5.1 update for the Droid Turbo. Yeah, I know Verizon doesn't control the fate of phones not on their network. I'm not saying they do. But Motorola is owned by Lenovo, an Asian company where "saving face", not embarrassing business partners is ingrained in the corporate culture. If the other Quarks receive 5.1, and the Droid Turbo does not, that makes Verizon look worse than they already do. I just feel Motorola won't do that.
Hopefully, I'm wrong with that guess and 5.1 comes next week!
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You are right in everything you said, but about "an Asian company where "saving face", not embarrassing business partners is ingrained in the corporate culture", you have to take in mind that customers also have a big play here, so my bet is that they won't care so much on Verizon, but instead would push the update to other markets whether Verizon is ready or not.
All this delays on the updates for the Turbo are directly related to Verizon, so I don't think a whole company stop it update process and mechanics just because a carrier.
The other point here, is that Verizon is not any carrier, is the carrier that each year release the Droid line and they have had a really close relation to Verizon for many years, so I guess the coin is in the air: bet for customers or bet for Verizon?.
Why can't Motorola just release a signed update zip that we manually flash?
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Why can't Motorola just release a signed update zip that we manually flash?
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Because they undoubtedly have an agreement with Verizon that they'll wait for Verizon to approve any updates before they push them. Breaking that agreement would be a great way to get Verizon to not let any new Motorola phones on their network.
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Has anyone reached out to Motorola to see if there will be a developer edition of the Turbo. I know Motorola confirmed no developer for motox gen 2. But i haven't heard any confirmations on the turbo! Anyone have any feedback ?
Somewhere else in the forum i thought i read that there were no plans for any dev edition, at least in the near future.
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From Motorola or verizon. Note4 developer was just released for Verizon for developer a little while back,
coreywallen said:
Somewhere else in the forum i thought i read that there were no plans for any dev edition, at least in the near future.
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I just contacted them.
The representative said that they don't have the information on when the Droid Turbo Developer Edition will be released but he assures me that "that is the phone that is next online to be released on our end."
I think "online" was meant to be "in line."
Thoughts?
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I just contacted them.
The representative said that they don't have the information on when the Droid Turbo Developer Edition will be released but he assures me that "that is the phone that is next online to be released on our end."
I think "online" was meant to be "in line."
Thoughts?
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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If it does happen I could see them pulling a 2nd Gen moto thing. It will be a 'pure' edition and won't be compatible for Verizon
I'm thinking it will be a Pure Edition thing too, which I would love to have since I'm on T Mobile.
I wonder why moto can't/won't release a dev edition ROM for current and provide a way to securely flash it; they could even charge for it and I would be fine with it. All a dev edition changes is the status of the bootloader, correct? There isn't anything physically different between the two devices right?
Roobix said:
I just contacted them.
The representative said that they don't have the information on when the Droid Turbo Developer Edition will be released but he assures me that "that is the phone that is next online to be released on our end."
I think "online" was meant to be "in line."
Thoughts?
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Was this from Verizon or Motorola? If it was Verizon, I'd put about a 1% confidence rating; if Motorola I'd put a 35% confidence rating.
That being said: I'd sell my Turbo in a heartbeat for a developer version.
Same here I would be surprised if it actually comes out. If so it looks like I would be passing mine out for a good price to pick up the developer edition.
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Was this from Verizon or Motorola? If it was Verizon, I'd put about a 1% confidence rating; if Motorola I'd put a 35% confidence rating.
That being said: I'd sell my Turbo in a heartbeat for a developer version.
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It was from Motorola. The Droid Maxx developer edition was released one month after the release of the Droid Maxx, so it could be soon...
Has anyone else contacted Motorola?
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It was from Motorola. The Droid Maxx developer edition was released one month after the release of the Droid Maxx, so it could be soon...
Has anyone else contacted Motorola?
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I did and they said they had no information if there was or was not going to be a Droid Turbo Developer Edition available.
Turbo, developer edition, what a dream phone. A rootable device running pure Android. Please Motorola, make it real.
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I really want a turbo, but was planning on waiting a few months so i can grab one used. I'd probably sell my girlfriend for a developer edition though.
I'm running a 2013 X now, but i'm switching back to a verizon reseller instead of t-mobile, and i just managed to grab a MAXX dev edition used, which should keep me happy for a few months.
Already have a rootable editon, its. Moto maxx.
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I wonder why moto can't/won't release a dev edition ROM for current and provide a way to securely flash it; they could even charge for it and I would be fine with it. All a dev edition changes is the status of the bootloader, correct? There isn't anything physically different between the two devices right?
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Because carriers.
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Already have a rootable editon, its. Moto maxx.
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This is why we need a maxx sub forum.
No we do not have a rootable edition. Droid Turbo is the name of the forum, and the Maxx is useless on Verizon, where nearly all Turbo users are with them.
I honestly dont think there will be a developer edition for the turbo on verizon. Heck I really dont believe the nexus will come to verizon just from talking to some reps. They said they nexus to work on the network never said anything about getting it to be bought through verizon. Just stating my opinion. Those of you waiting to get the nexus 6 should be better off going through google or motorola.
So still no developer / pure edition for this beast? I'd pick that up immediately.
EDIT: upon further research, I wouldn't. No reliable data/voice while driving on highways (as the phone does sometimes switch to 3g). What a shame.
Ive unlocked the developer edition of my turbo by pressing the Build number in the about phone settings five times.
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I bought an off contrct unclojed xt1097 from telus. Their marketing calls in pure edition but we know that the xt1095 is the real pure one. I contacted telus about the lollipop update and they said that they were waiting on Motorola and then contacted Motorola through the help chat on our phones and the Moto rep asked me to check with my carrier as they are the ones releasing. So frustrating how these people know nothing.
Has anyone with an xt1097 got any info or news ro share? Anyone receive a soak test?
Thanks for sharing!
I too have the xt1097 and havent received anything. The update for this version is not out yet, but according to mobile syrup, motorola is working with the canadian carriers to push it as soon as possible.
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I too have the xt1097 and havent received anything. The update for this version is not out yet, but according to mobile syrup, motorola is working with the canadian carriers to push it as soon as possible.
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Pretty sure Telus is the only Canadian carrier that has the Moto x 2014......
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Pretty sure Telus is the only Canadian carrier that has the Moto x 2014......
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At the moment yes, but it will coming to wind or another carrier soon. Also lollipop is being pushed to the moto G on several networks and the 1st gen moto X on rogers. Hence working with Canadian carriers to bring lollipop to moto devices and not just to the moto X 2014 on Telus.
I do hope it is soon as I don't want to mess around too much with the phone just yet. There isn't really anything bloated about the Telus version, it just has some wifi #TELUSDIRECT and such in it.
Nexus 5 updates on Telus?
Does anyone know how long after kit kat was released did telus nexus 5 owners see their updates?
Lol comment fail. Anyways how quickly did n5 owners get 4.4.2 over the original 4.4.x firmware?
I too would like to know when we would receive lollipop.
Us xt1096 owners are still on 4.4.4 as well
I also have a 1097 Brazilian Retail Moto X and no updates here yet.
As it is a retail version I wonder what would be the trouble to release the update along with those pure editions. The Brazilian retail is the closest thing to a pure edition that is not being sold exclusively in US.
Hope they release it soon.
I know what you mean. It seems to be the exactly the same as the pure edition with absolutely no carrier bloat even bought from my carrier (TELUS). It would be very surprising if they sit on a working lollipop build for the xt1095 without also quickly updating the xt1097. As far as I know and I could be wrong is they only need a modified modem for the xt1097. How long can that take?
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I also have a 1097 Brazilian Retail Moto X and no updates here yet.
As it is a retail version I wonder what would be the trouble to release the update along with those pure editions. The Brazilian retail is the closest thing to a pure edition that is not being sold exclusively in US.
Hope they release it soon.
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I don't think it'll take too long for us (I mean Brazilian xt1097 retail) to get it. Changes seem to be minimal and brazil is pretty high with motorola. My bet is we start getting it by next week. Hang on dude, Im with you on that!
Just chatted with a Motorola rep and she said it should be coming in a few weeks.
Leegalaxy said:
Just chatted with a Motorola rep and she said it should be coming in a few weeks.
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Pics for proof (not that I trust her actually knowing for sure).
Our turn?
Xt1095, then xt1096. Next xt1097? One can hope!
Can't be too long now, Verizon released it yesterday.....
Wind Mobile is now selling the Moto X. Haven't been able to confirm the model number or exact software version yet.
Looks like the same one as telus, almost the same ad..... looks like most of the southern part of the world is getting Lollipop, maybe it is too cold for it to travel here.....
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Wind Mobile is now selling the Moto X. Haven't been able to confirm the model number or exact software version yet.
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i owe this moto from WIND too here is the model number XT1097 LET ME KNOW IF YOU NEED MORE INFO
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i owe this moto from WIND too here is the model number XT1097 LET ME KNOW IF YOU NEED MORE INFO
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Yes! Please let us know all of the version info.
Hi, does anyone knows if this phone is going to be updated to 5.1 or the update will be only for the droid turbo? Because I have seen the news and no one is mentioning this phone and I'm very worried, jeje thanks [emoji28]
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Hi, does anyone knows if this phone is going to be updated to 5.1 or the update will be only for the droid turbo? Because I have seen the news and no one is mentioning this phone and I'm very worried, jeje thanks [emoji28]
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You don't have to be worried about, Turbo and Maxx are the same phone with different software, so they should get the update mostly at the same time.
You have been hearing this it's because Turbo would get directly updated to 5.1, which it's a different story for the Maxx that already have Lollipop.
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You don't have to be worried about, Turbo and Maxx are the same phone with different software, so they should get the update mostly at the same time.
You have been hearing this it's because Turbo would get directly updated to 5.1, which it's a different story for the Maxx that already have Lollipop.
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I wouldn't assume that. OEMs have a finite of updates they will push and unless they see a dire need to, may not push the Maxx to 5.1. It happens all the time. An OEM will move a device to the next OS version, and being that 5.1.1 is still Lollipop they may not consider it worth the resources to update to it, especially since (correct me if wrong) the international versions do not use VoLTE.
yes it will be updated to 5.1, but i think droid turbo will make it first, then us.
I am sure the Brazil version will get 5.1.x, not sure about the other builds/countries though.
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I wouldn't assume that. OEMs have a finite of updates they will push and unless they see a dire need to, may not push the Maxx to 5.1. It happens all the time. An OEM will move a device to the next OS version, and being that 5.1.1 is still Lollipop they may not consider it worth the resources to update to it, especially since (correct me if wrong) the international versions do not use VoLTE.
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Well, since India Turbo just launched, and Brazil is also very important to Motorola fairly sure they will continue to get updates. India launched with a version a hair behind Brazil and Mexico's Lollipop. They will both be equal at some point, with newer update.
If the Moto X and Moto G continue to get updates, so with the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo.
And last, we now will have CM 12.1 which is based on 5.1. So, we have 5.1. DONE. Don't need OEM, sir.
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Done. I have also moved to CM12.1 from now on, so I'll not be backporting latest set of patches back to CM-12.0
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I am sure the Brazil version will get 5.1.x, not sure about the other builds/countries though.
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Then you can just flash Brazil's 5.1.x. I converted my Mexico and Puerto Rico Moto Maxx to India Moto Turbo. Just as easy to convert them to Brazil Moto Maxx.
That is, if you absolutely want just stock and not a custom ROM like CM 12.1, which is 5.1.
Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 will have Lollipop 5.1 before Verizon gives it Droid Turbo -- courtesy CM 12.1 and @Skrilax_CZ.
If any Moto Maxx XT1250 users also want CM 12.1, just contact @Skrilax_CZ.
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Well, since India Turbo just launched, and Brazil is also very important to Motorola fairly sure they will continue to get updates. India launched with a version a hair behind Brazil and Mexico's Lollipop. They will both be equal at some point, with newer update.
If the Moto X and Moto G continue to get updates, so with the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo.
And last, we now will have CM 12.1 which is based on 5.1. So, we have 5.1. DONE. Don't need OEM, sir.
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Then you can just flash Brazil's 5.1.x. I converted my Mexico and Puerto Rico Moto Maxx to India Moto Turbo. Just as easy to convert them to Brazil Moto Maxx.
That is, if you absolutely want just stock and not a custom ROM like CM 12.1, which is 5.1.
Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 will have Lollipop 5.1 before Verizon gives it Droid Turbo -- courtesy CM 12.1 and @Skrilax_CZ.
If any Moto Maxx XT1250 users also want CM 12.1, just contact @Skrilax_CZ.
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I assure you, you want (OEM) 5.1 if for no other reason than proper blobs. CM will never be able to provide those until Moto releases an update they can be pulled from.
It won't be much resources for them to upgrade from 5.0.x to 5.1.y - it costs resources if there were many underlying platform changes, which has not happened. So I'd simply say that next minor OTA for Maxx will be 5.1 based.
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It won't be much resources for them to upgrade from 5.0.x to 5.1.y - it costs resources if there were many underlying platform changes, which has not happened. So I'd simply say that next minor OTA for Maxx will be 5.1 based.
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That depends on how well the Motorola components work with 5.1. If they do not, they must update them as well.
adrynalyne said:
That depends on how well the Motorola components work with 5.1. If they do not, they must update them as well.
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The problem with OS upgrading is mostly on plaftorm side. Qualcomm will upgrade their platform blobs / firmwares / sources, but Moto will need to reconfigure their setup (and there will be bugs etc.). That's where the problem usually lies and holds OTA updates (msm8960 phones to Kitkat from 4.1.2, now mam8960ab phones to LP etc.).
There is no virtual difference in the framework integration, since 5.1 is a bugfix release primarilly.
adrynalyne said:
That depends on how well the Motorola components work with 5.1. If they do not, they must update them as well.
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Motorola is already publicly committed to 5.1 for one Quark phone, the XT1254 Droid Turbo.
Just for support reasons alone, Motorola would want all the Quarks to have the same bug fixes. In support of that idea is Motorola themselves:
https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/cV4vDyyMmw2
David Schuster, a Senior Director of software management at Motorola:
There seems to be a number of negative comments about the decision that Motorola took to move to use Lollipop 5.1 rather than stay with the plan to deploy 5.0.2. We did NOT do this without weighing the various pros and cons but at the end of the day we felt it was the best path to ensure we deliver our consumers the best available solution.
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Motorola has said 5.0.2 has problems. They say 5.1 is much better.
If the 2013 and 2014 Moto X and 2013 Moto G will get 5.1, then so will all the Quarks which are much more recent, much more premium phones.
It's silly to suggest otherwise.
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The problem with OS upgrading is mostly on plaftorm side. Qualcomm will upgrade their platform blobs / firmwares / sources, but Moto will need to reconfigure their setup (and there will be bugs etc.). That's where the problem usually lies and holds OTA updates (msm8960 phones to Kitkat from 4.1.2, now mam8960ab phones to LP etc.).
There is no virtual difference in the framework integration, since 5.1 is a bugfix release primarily.
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Therefore, if Motorola is publicly committed to a 5.1 update for the Droid Turbo XT1254, then a 5.1 update for the XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo is also basically done at that point.
It's just GSM/HSPA/LTE, not CDMA/HSPA/LTE. Same Snapdragon 805, same RAM, same camera, same display. They are ALL Quark phones.
Yeah, Verizon wants to make sure VoLTE works fine in 5.1, but that's not even going to be an issue with the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225.
It's like getting your Doctoral degree and someone asking if you have your Masters.
It's not even a CARRIER approved release, like with Verizon. Verizon causes problems.
"According to David Schuster, a Senior Director of software management at Motorola, all of the devices we just mentioned won’t see Android 5.0 Lollipop, and will instead be updated from Android 4.4 KitKat straight to Android 5.1 Lollipop":
Moto X (1st & 2nd Gen)
Moto G (1st and 2nd Gen)
Moto G 4G LTE
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Moto E
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DROID Mini
https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/cV4vDyyMmw2
With respect the 2013 DROID Ultra family of devices... we are running into some "partner support" issues for the Lollipop upgrade. We are actively trying to work through these issue and I will update you guys as soon as I have more information. Sorry about not having clearer direction for you but my hands are a little tied at the moment until we work through the issue with our partner.
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Well, if it's DROID, then the difficult "partner" is Verizon. Not an issue with the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo.
While some of the Moto Maxx Quarks are sold by carriers, in Mexico and Brazil you can buy them straight from Motorola website. My Mexico Moto Maxx was bought straight from Motorola Mexico. In India, the just-launched XT1225 Moto Turbo is sold through an online retailer but is still a "factory" phone straight from Motorola (and sports the same FCC ID as all the other XT1225).
And thus receive updates straight from Motorola. My Mexico Moto Maxx when on 4.4.4 was only connected to wi-fi, did not have a sim card in it, but notified me of the 5.0.2 update. I declined and flashed it to India Turbo 5.0.2. manually.
Motorola has emphasized how important markets like India and Brazil are to their plans. They just convinced people in India to spend this amount of money on a phone (which launched with 5.0.2) and someone is implying it's not going to receive ANY future updates? :silly:
The only difference between any of the XT1225 is the carrier-sold models are sim locked, while the factory models are not. My Puerto Rico Moto Maxx was sim locked, but was unlocked before delivery, and both my Moto Maxx are flashed to India Moto Turbo Lollipop.
And once the XT1254 Droid Turbo 5.1 Lollipop update is ready, that means 5.1 for the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 is basically ready. Both have the same hardware, same CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands, same FCC ID.
ChazzMatt said:
Motorola is already publicly committed to 5.1 for one Quark phone, the XT1254 Droid Turbo.
Just for support reasons alone, Motorola would want all the Quarks to have the same bug fixes. In support of that idea is Motorola themselves:
https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/cV4vDyyMmw2
David Schuster, a Senior Director of software management at Motorola:
Motorola has said 5.0.2 has problems. They say 5.1 is much better.
If the 2013 and 2014 Moto X and 2013 Moto G will get 5.1, then so will all the Quarks which are much more recent, much more premium phones.
It's silly to suggest otherwise.
Therefore, if Motorola is publicly committed to a 5.1 update for the Droid Turbo XT1254, then a 5.1 update for the XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo is also basically done at that point.
It's just GSM/HSPA/LTE, not CDMA/HSPA/LTE. Same Snapdragon 805, same RAM, same camera, same display. They are ALL Quark phones.
Yeah, Verizon wants to make sure VoLTE works fine in 5.1, but that's not even going to be an issue with the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225.
It's like getting your Doctoral degree and someone asking if you have your Masters.
It's not even a CARRIER approved release, like with Verizon. Verizon causes problems.
"According to David Schuster, a Senior Director of software management at Motorola, all of the devices we just mentioned won’t see Android 5.0 Lollipop, and will instead be updated from Android 4.4 KitKat straight to Android 5.1 Lollipop":
Moto X (1st & 2nd Gen)
Moto G (1st and 2nd Gen)
Moto G 4G LTE
DROID Turbo
Moto E
DROID Ultra
DROID Maxx
DROID Mini
https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/cV4vDyyMmw2
Well, if it's DROID, then the difficult "partner" is Verizon. Not an issue with the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo.
While some of the Moto Maxx Quarks are sold by carriers, in Mexico and Brazil you can buy them straight from Motorola website. My Mexico Moto Maxx was bought straight from Motorola Mexico. In India, the just-launched XT1225 Moto Turbo is sold through an online retailer but is still a "factory" phone straight from Motorola (and sports the same FCC ID as all the other XT1225).
And thus receive updates straight from Motorola. My Mexico Moto Maxx when on 4.4.4 was only connected to wi-fi, did not have a sim card in it, but notified me of the 5.0.2 update. I declined and flashed it to India Turbo 5.0.2. manually.
Motorola has emphasized how important markets like India and Brazil are to their plans. They just convinced people in India to spend this amount of money on a phone (which launched with 5.0.2) and someone is implying it's not going to receive ANY future updates? :silly:
The only difference between any of the XT1225 is the carrier-sold models are sim locked, while the factory models are not. My Puerto Rico Moto Maxx was sim locked, but was unlocked before delivery, and both my Moto Maxx are flashed to India Moto Turbo Lollipop.
And once the XT1254 Droid Turbo 5.1 Lollipop update is ready, that means 5.1 for the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 is basically ready. Both have the same hardware, same CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands, same FCC ID.
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That "difficult" partner is more likely whoever provides drivers for those non-ARM cores. This same issue affects the 2013 MotoX.
I'm glad you have faith in Motorola, but far too often I've seen OEMs walk away from their phones when it comes to updates.
You are right, 5.1 makes 5.0.x look like garbage. 5.1 makes my devices fly.
Well now that turbo has 5.1 will there be an update to our maxx purchased dirwctly from motorola?
screege said:
Well now that turbo has 5.1 will there be an update to our maxx purchased dirwctly from motorola?
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I think they would push first the 2015 devices, and then start to be worried about the updates of older devices.
A while ago I visited the moto maker website, and bought the xt1095 t mobile pure edition. I am currently using it on a Canadian carrier named Fido. I still haven't receive the 5.1 update and I am getting anxious, since 5.0 runs fairly slowly on the moto x, and I really look forward to the speed boost offered by 5.1. But will there be a delay for updates because I am in Canada? And also a lot of people have got the 5.1 update already, is it still in a soak test process? Please let me know, I literally checks the update every hour lol.
jeffreyyang415 said:
A while ago I visited the moto maker website, and bought the xt1095 t mobile pure edition. I am currently using it on a Canadian carrier named Fido. I still haven't receive the 5.1 update and I am getting anxious, since 5.0 runs fairly slowly on the moto x, and I really look forward to the speed boost offered by 5.1. But will there be a delay for updates because I am in Canada? And also a lot of people have got the 5.1 update already, is it still in a soak test process? Please let me know, I literally checks the update every hour lol.
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Still on a soak test the second one actually for our 1095..... Things have slowed down considerably.....
Sure wish google would have kept Motorola It could have been like Nokia and windows, rock solid Nexus like phones lol.
anybody have any thoughts? I've currently got the LG G3 and am sick of the continually overheating while running GPS. Makes it tough to get places when the phone keeps shutting down. Been looking around and am debating the turbo due to the turbo charging speed. would ya do it??
That's a tough choice. My gf has a g3 and I have a turbo. The g3 is amazing. Better camera in low light, rootable and unlocked bootloader and a ton of development already done on it whereas the turbo, there is a lot less. But my turbo lasts way longer, doesn't overheat at all. It's really an amazing device. If you can handle the little bit extra weight and it being thicker to an extent, then grab the Turbo for sure.
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I love my Turbo, but I've never seen a G3. The turbo charging works great. Also, jcase and beaups are actively working on a bootloader unlock for the Turbo. See here: https://twitter.com/therootninja. Also also, why would you get a G3 when the G4 is out?
EDIT: Never mind. I misread.
Or go for the unlocked near-equivalent of the Turbo: the Moto Maxx XT1225 (or the unlocked CDMA version - can't remember if it's XT1254 or XT1250 - depending on who you have for a carrier).
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Or go for the unlocked near-equivalent of the Turbo: the Moto Maxx XT1225 (or the unlocked CDMA version - can't remember if it's XT1254 or XT1250 - depending on who you have for a carrier).
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XT1250 = unlocked CDMA version (Moto Maxx)
XT1254 = Verizon Droid Turbo
And the only thing that makes it "near equivalent" and not "equivalent" is the name. They are electrically identical.
G3 is nowhere near Droid Turbo, it would be a nice upgrade over G3 but Droid Turbo 2 is about to be announced, so i would wait for dt2 announcement instead of buying droid turbo unless it is cheap.
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Or go for the unlocked near-equivalent of the Turbo: the Moto Maxx XT1225 (or the unlocked CDMA version - can't remember if it's XT1254 or XT1250 - depending on who you have for a carrier).
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TheSt33v said:
XT1250 = unlocked CDMA version (Moto Maxx)
XT1254 = Verizon Droid Turbo
And the only thing that makes it "near equivalent" and not "equivalent" is the name. They are electrically identical.
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Yeah, same FCC ID = same device, same bands.
Someone I'm chatting with on Hangouts just got an XT1250 and flashed the Droid Turbo 5.1 and radio over it to basically turn it into an bootloader unlocked Droid Turbo....
I was able to get it at Sprocket! (Well, waiting until Monday until they have the Black version.) Ironically, the thing there were most concerned about was me disputing the charge on my CC. However, after some pleading, they agreed!
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Buying it on Monday, waiting for them to get the Black version in stock.
But they are willing to sell it, after some convincing.
All I care is to install 5.1, TWRP, and root. And maybe compile a custom kernel.
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So FYI, I got it all mostly working. The only problem I have right now is upload speeds are super slow.
Flashed the Verizon radio and 5.1 FW
gonna try wiping the radio and re-writing the radio
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Yes I flashed the Verizon Radio to the device
not the bootloader image, for obvious reasons
I wanted 5.1, so I didn't test until I had the VZW 5.1 with my SIM card
I'm going to try an reflash soon, and then get a new SIM just in case
I hope Verizon doesn't give me any trouble getting a new SIM at my local store
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