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[Request] Moto X features

Would it be possible to have the new Moto X features like the always listening google now without draining the battery?
And the flip for camera and with the same camera apk?
And the notification on screen with message info and everything?
Basicly I love all the new features Moto X could bring to a phone but the phone it self isn't as good as the HTC one
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The always Google Now feature is provided by a low energy and slow processor -which One doesn't have so no about that. The notification thing is only possible on AMOLED screen, One is a SLCD.
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The always on Google Now certainly drains battery. Even normal GNow drains battery by a decent amount, which is why I disabled it.

BartuG said:
The always Google Now feature is provided by a low energy and slow processor -which One doesn't have so no about that. The notification thing is only possible on AMOLED screen, One is a SLCD.
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This. Same with the screwdriver for camera thing.
The Motorola X wouldn't be so expensive if the features that it had could be implemented via software.
Google: X8 mobile computing system.

Moto X has customized low powered core for this

Anyone feel like the X is growing long in the tooth?

I love my Moto X and it's features this is actually my second. Although I'm starting to feel like its aging rapidly. Vanilla android is dull in its black color scheme and its starting to wear. Also the form factor is great but I am itching for a bigger screen. Oh and I really miss Qi charging ! Anyone else starting to feel like this?
MOTO X

Sorry, can't agree less...AOSP is the best, I will never go back to anything else. Everyone else spends so much time packing in all of these other apps and features that are worthless to 95% of their users. As a result, updates are slower and in most cases never even happen. Our little guy here will always be up to date with the latest and greatest that Google can whip up.
I will admit that the display size (and resolution) leaves a bit to be desired, coming from one of the most beautiful displays I've ever seen on a phone (DNA). Not a deal breaker for me.
At any rate, the truth is that every single person on this forum has a different "ideal" device from everyone else. If you feel like you want something else that's OK...it's the inevitable reality considering there is always something newer and better out there.
I love this phone and will happily wear it out until I'm due for an upgrade next June.
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OK that's fine. I'm not one to shout down a person who doesn't agree with me. Its not that I love the bloat of other OS but the colors of say the LG G3 or maybe a white version of our current vanilla
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i don't want a bigger screen and android can be customized to look and perform as you like.
moto x is not aging and i won't feel bad about keeping mine if moto comes out with a bigger one for the x+1.

I'm actually really surprised. My last 4 android phones have been rooted and customized. I love my moto X with stock 4.4.2. I would like to root it and use XPOSED but I'm very happy with it as is.
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Oh and I am still really impressed with the speed of the Moto X. I was a little worried after seeing the specs but this thing flies and I get virtually no lag.

I don't know what it is. I'm intrigued by the lg g3 but who knows I probably won't make the switch. I have to actually see it and use it
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Yes I agree with you. While I am perfectly happy with the overall function of the X I am bored and ready to try something new. I used to be a flashaholic and going thru withdrawals. Also the camera sometimes pisses me off. I would miss active notifications and voice control though.

a yes and no
well, i come from a sony device in which i used to change roms every week (i know what u r thinking, but yes i had a lot of free time)
that is one of the things i am missing in Moto X (i haven't rooted it yet)
yes the stock rom is not that exciting with a lot of features but that makes the X fly..
i am ok with the stock rom..

If your bored root it and install Xposed, Gravity box has almost every feature roms have ever had. There are Xposed modules to use themes also or install a rom that has the Theme Chooser built in if you want to change the look.
For me this is the first phone that killed my Rom Flashing addiction, with Xposed & Gravity Box I have everything I need and only use the Gravity Box features I need. Gone are the days of waiting/wiping/flashing/setting up my phone when a new nightly has been released. Now I have more time to find and use apps I really like and when I want a small change I buy a new Icon Pack.

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If your bored root it and install Xposed, Gravity box has almost every feature roms have ever had. There are Xposed modules to use themes also or install a rom that has the Theme Chooser built in if you want to change the look.
For me this is the first phone that killed my Rom Flashing addiction, with Xposed & Gravity Box I have everything I need and only use the Gravity Box features I need. Gone are the days of waiting/wiping/flashing/setting up my phone when a new nightly has been released. Now I have more time to find and use apps I really like and when I want a small change I buy a new Icon Pack.
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+1 I was using HKThemeManager and you can find different themes if you look hard enough. I had my drop down notification look like the gs5 with its color scheme and various other themes. But I decided to go back to stock.
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someguyatx said:
Yes I agree with you. While I am perfectly happy with the overall function of the X I am bored and ready to try something new. I used to be a flashaholic and going thru withdrawals. Also the camera sometimes pisses me off. I would miss active notifications and voice control though.
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Well active notifications can be replicated by both peek and other apps. The voice control is the only thing I would miss
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For my use and preference the Moto X is the absolute best phone on the market. I have the opportunity to buy the latest and greatest if I choose to do so and yet I am completely unimpressed by:
-what is on the market today
-the fact that no OEM is focusing on reducing bezel size drastically or improving ergonomics in any meaningful way except Moto with their X line.
-Screen
I've already decided for my eyesight, viewing distance and hand size the 4.7 inch screen is perfect. Anything bigger and I find it harder to use Swype keyboard (I tend to be humble about most things but I'm a very fast Swyper). The max I would go with is 5 inch screen ONLY IF bezels are RIDICULOUSLY small, even smaller than Moto X. Theoretically you could fit a 5 inch screen on a phone the size of the Moto X. But nobody is focusing on this. There still isn't a phone on the market with thinner side bezels than Moto X.
-Active notifications.
Could I live without it? Probably. Do I want to? Nop.
-Touchless controls
I could live without it.
Moto X is the perfect form factor and because vertical scrolling fluidity and frame drops are a problem with Android OS and not the hardware, I don't find that Galaxy S5, HTC M8 are any smoother or faster than my debloated X. At all. I've done side by side comparisons.
For me Moto X is the perfect form factor/weight/feature set. If the next Moto X model to be released is a lot bigger, I will just buy another Moto X as a spare. I like iphone as well (I switch back and forth a lot, the customizability via jailbreak tends to put Android to it's knees but that's a tough pill to swallow for most people here) but I wasn't impressed by the iphone 6 leaks (bezels are not thinner than the 5/4s wth!) AND the fact that iphone doesn't have an official swype (still doable via touchpal and jailbreak but not nearly as good) is kind of a deal breaker for me. Swype is how I learned how to use smartphones. You would probably drool over my speed typing with swype or laugh at my clumsiness with two finger tapping. I feel like an idiot tap typing one handed on an iphone it's SOOO bloody slow

With smaller bezels you will just inadvertently bump the screen with your hand when reaching with your thumb
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rocketsaucev2 said:
With smaller bezels you will just inadvertently bump the screen with your hand when reaching with your thumb
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There are already software systems in place to avoid this in ipad air due to it's small(er) bezels. It's just an algorithm that takes things like current orientation and digitizer inputs to decide whether it will ignore that input or not.
All it does is ignores your thumb inputs while you hold the device with let's say your right hand. 4 fingers are supporting the back of the device and the thumb is clamping the screen. The thumb input is ignored by the OS which then turns it's attention to the hand that you are intending on navigating the OS with (left hand in this case).
Given a very small bottom bezel the size of Moto X's would avoid that issue. And Moto X's bottom bezel is friggin tiny! :laugh:

AndreaCristiano said:
Well active notifications can be replicated by both peek and other apps. The voice control is the only thing I would miss
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Peek is nothing like active display. You have 10 seconds after the notification to see it.
And full time active display apps will burn up the battery on a non moto x device.
Just for the record.

AndreaCristiano said:
I love my Moto X and it's features this is actually my second. Although I'm starting to feel like its aging rapidly. Vanilla android is dull in its black color scheme and its starting to wear. Also the form factor is great but I am itching for a bigger screen. Oh and I really miss Qi charging ! Anyone else starting to feel like this?
MOTO X
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Could not disagree more.
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kj2112 said:
Peek is nothing like active display. You have 10 seconds after the notification to see it.
And full time active display apps will burn up the battery on a non moto x device.
Just for the record.
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My full active display app on my nexus 5 had no battery issues
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AndreaCristiano said:
My full active display app on my nexus 5 had no battery issues
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Link?

kj2112 said:
Link?
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To the app?
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AndreaCristiano said:
To the app?
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I'd use an app like that that doesn't drain battery. Honestly, never heard of one. ?

Does new moto x have notification led?

Love what I've read about this phone except for the crappy camera, small battery, and no external SD support. If it doesn't have a notification led I think I'm going with the GS5 as my current GS3 has treated me well for the last 2+ years. Anyone?

No. And maybe you should try something beside a Galaxy. You won't believe how fast and smooth stock Android is and when a phone isn't made of entirely cheap plastic.

eksasol said:
No. And maybe you should try something beside a Galaxy. You won't believe how fast and smooth stock Android is and when a phone isn't made of entirely cheap plastic.
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Looking at HTC one m8 with gpe rom

RyanS2000 said:
Love what I've read about this phone except for the crappy camera, small battery, and no external SD support. If it doesn't have a notification led I think I'm going with the GS5 as my current GS3 has treated me well for the last 2+ years. Anyone?
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Why would you want a notification led instead of moto display?

kdog350 said:
Why would you want a notification led instead of moto display?
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To see if I have any notifications by quickly glancing at phone

RyanS2000 said:
To see if I have any notifications by quickly glancing at phone
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With the Moto X you can do that and actually see from which app the notification is without touching it. And with just touching the screen one time, you can read the notification.

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With the Moto X you can do that and actually see from which app the notification is without touching it. And with just touching the screen one time, you can read the notification.
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So from across the room or even a few feet away looking over (no hand wave over it or anything) at the moto x I can tell if I have notification(s)?
What I like about my GS3 is the color of the led tells me which app the notification is for and I can see it from across the room.

The active display will blink the icon of whatever app has a notification on the screen. It's not color coded like a normal led and you may have trouble seeing the icon from across the room. However, you can just say "OK Google: What's Up?" and the phone will say the time and read any active notification/text messages. (Incredibly useful while driving.)

It will probably have a hidden led like the original X, just hope the brightness can be tweaked this time.

eksasol said:
It will probably have a hidden led like the original X, just hope the brightness can be tweaked this time.
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But this led can only be used for charging status? Or did someone figure out how to use it for notifications? If yes then I'll go for it.

RyanS2000 said:
But this led can only be used for charging status? Or did someone figure out how to use it for notifications? If yes then I'll go for it.
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It's only for a charging led. I think some cm roms have it worked out for a notification light, ONLY when it's plugged in. You lose the moto features with cm based roms tho.

I just went to Verizon and held the one m8 and old moto x. I'm not a fan of the feel of the m8 and the notification led is so small that it's pretty much useless. But I like that I can flash a pure android ROM (gpe) and it has other good specs.
I love how the old x feels, it's perfect. It sucks that Motorola is making it bigger as the smaller size would have been a big selling point for me.
Tough to decide between the two, or even the gs5.

2014 moto x does have a notification light
And it works for more than just charging

you can just yell, ok google now, news? and the moto x will tell you each notification you have without touch it.

It doesn't tell you everything but it tells you missed notifications

AndreaCristiano said:
2014 moto x does have a notification light
And it works for more than just charging
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Source?

Maybe go look in the 2014 moto x thread and see what those who have one say. Besides you can see it in YouTube reviews

Have seen at least seven or eight YouTube hands on videos, none mentioned anything about a notification light. Will check the new X topic.

Notification LEDs are irritating to me and useless because they don't tell you if the notification is worth your time or not, so you just turn on the phone for nothing a lot. Active Display/Moto Display is pretty damn intuitive.

Jason.DROID said:
Notification LEDs are irritating to me and useless because they don't tell you if the notification is worth your time or not, so you just turn on the phone for nothing a lot. Active Display/Moto Display is pretty damn intuitive.
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Well after using the X for two and a half months now I will have to disagree with you
I also at first really liked the Active display, still do, but I would take back the old LED notifications. I just hate to wait some 6 seconds for the notifications to appear on the screen. Also you will have to to look at the display from straight on, with LED notifications you can see it from most angle (not the hTC M series like stupid ultra tiny dot one!), and you can set the colour, so that's damn easy, for me.

Look-at-screen feature?

So, I was paging through the settings on the X at a store and noticed something I haven't yet seen mentioned - the ability for the device to remain on so long as the user continued to look at the screen. Additionally, you could have the screen shut off and lock more quickly than normal if the user looked away from the device. How is this working for you all?

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So, I was paging through the settings on the X at a store and noticed something I haven't yet seen mentioned - the ability for the device to remain on so long as the user continued to look at the screen. Additionally, you could have the screen shut off and lock more quickly than normal if the user looked away from the device. How is this working for you all?
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it actually works. like I looked away, and when I looked back, my screen turned dim (about to turn off) but it saw I was looking at it and undimmed itself. pretty cool to me

Yes, works pretty fine for me too [emoji4]

I read about this, I believe it's referred to as "Attentive Display". If i'm not wrong it uses the IR sensors as opposed to the front camera like some other manufacturers. Great to know it works!

If yuo use the training guide, you see the funcion.
It seems to use the front camera to see your face.
It works good in many condition, not during night.

Is this feature on by default? It would seem that using the camera at all times would spend a bit of energy.

I believe it uses the IR sensors rather than the camera. Reason being that I've compared my battery life with the feature turned on and off, and there's no difference to speak of. Having the camera on to track your face would consume a fair amount of battery and would've shown up in Settings>Battery as well.
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HAXTREME said:
I believe it uses the IR sensors rather than the camera. Reason being that I've compared my battery life with the feature turned on and off, and there's no difference to speak of. Having the camera on to track your face would consume a fair amount of battery and would've shown up in Settings>Battery as well.
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If so, there would be no difference in performance in the dark, which contradicts the above poster's story.

floepie said:
If so, there would be no difference in performance in the dark, which contradicts the above poster's story.
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tbh, its pretty hit and miss most of the time. Even the Moto demo requires your head to be at a particular position vis a vis the screen for it to show up as a detect. I'd still maintain its the sensors, but I could very well be incorrect.

Has anyone lowered the resollution to increase battery and performance?

I saw a few articles so I did the process. It's been a day but maybe it will take a few days maybe to see. I downloaded a terminal emulator app, ran some commands and it seemed to change the resolution.

1. Scaling looks bad
2. There are issues with recents view
3. Didn't see any difference in battery life.
IMO not worth it.

Lawstorant said:
1. Scaling looks bad
2. There are issues with recents view
3. Didn't see any difference in battery life.
IMO not worth it.
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So far I don't see any difference in battery life either. If the screen brightness is the same then it's using the same amount of energy for lighting. I suppose processing is less but unless you're running an app that wants to control greater than 1080p there probably is no difference in processing either. I'll change it back in a few days unless something wonderful happens
Thanks for the input

I tried an app that doesn't lower the resolution but it does let you control disabling how many pixels on the display are active. I dropped it to 50% and saw improved battery life without too much of a loss on the display.
Google play link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=screen.dimmer.pixelfilter
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ozzmanj1 said:
I tried an app that doesn't lower the resolution but it does let you control disabling how many pixels on the display are active. I dropped it to 50% and saw improved battery life without too much of a loss on the display.
Google play link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=screen.dimmer.pixelfilter
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Oh wow that's interesting. I wonder if it just looks like it's a little dimmer

jeffrimerman said:
Oh wow that's interesting. I wonder if it just looks like it's a little dimmer
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Reason I went with the app is even though the resolution is at 1080p all pixels are still hiring. So it doesn't do any good. I never saw any improvement in battery improvement at 1080
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I tried everything, but I never saw any change in battery life. Neither brightness, resolution, kernels, custom roms, underclocking nor disabling apps.....none of it has any influence, once the device is in use battery drops just as fast no matter what I do.
If it wasnt for the cheap price I payed and the rest of the device still being competitive Id already gotten rid of the N6 just for that fact.
From new I barely managed a day with normal use.

terry_mccann said:
I tried everything, but I never saw any change in battery life. Neither brightness, resolution, kernels, custom roms, underclocking nor disabling apps.....none of it has any influence, once the device is in use battery drops just as fast no matter what I do.
If it wasnt for the cheap price I payed and the rest of the device still being competitive Id already gotten rid of the N6 just for that fact.
From new I barely managed a day with normal use.
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Yeah, I got mine 2 years ago for $190 so I've gotten my use out of it. I'm thinking of the Mate 9. I see some used ones under $300. So far the N6 goes a full day and still runs fine for now.