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What is your SD card benchmark?

I'm wondering if my 8gb class 6 Transcend SD card is slow, or my phone is.
When using J Benchmark I get like 1.4 Megabyte/s write and 2.6 Megabyte/s read.
This is slow for a class 6 card.
Could some of you run J Benchmark and write their results. Please also write which class card you have (and maybe which brand).
Thanks in advance.

I got 1.75 and 2.06 on a Sandisk 16gb class 2.

I have a class 2 16GB Sandisk and I got 2.03mb write & 2.66mb read. Ive been looking to go up to a class 4 or 6 32GB but I'm wondering if my N1 would use the extra speed??
Edit: tested internal NAND and got 0.44mb for write and 2.43mb for read.. is that normal??

100MB File size
8KB Buffer
Write: 3.36 MB/s
Read: 6.99 MB/s
8 Gig Class 6 MicroSD Card

McFroger3 said:
100MB File size
8KB Buffer
Write: 3.36 MB/s
Read: 6.99 MB/s
8 Gig Class 6 MicroSD Card
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Which brand is that?

OP, heres the qrcode for JBenchmark
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For my RiData 16GB Class 6
Data size: 10MB
buffer size: 2KB
Write: 1.66 MB/s
Read: 2.74 MB/s
buffer size: 4KB
Write: 2.25 MB/s
Read: 5.26 MB/s

Sandisk 16gb class 2

I must have a lucky card I have a Polaroid 16gb class 2 from frys for $18 after rebate
10MB, 2k cache
Write: 2.38 | 2.36 | 2.33 -- Avg: 2.36 MB/s
Read: 3.44 | 3.15 | 3.20 -- Avg: 3.26 MB/s
10MB, 4k cache
Write: 4.33 | 4.02 | 4.23 -- Avg: 4.19 MB/s
Read: 6.39 | 5.49 | 6.25 -- Avg: 6.04 MB/s
10MB, 8k cache
Write: 7.62 | 6.60 | 6.99 -- Avg: 7.07 MB/s
Read: 12.42 | 11.22 | 11.10 -- Avg: 11.58 MB/s
I did some more tests with larger files and the speeds are the same.

Thanks for your benchmarks. It seems like my card is very slow for a class 6 card.
I'll probably get another one and hope for better results.

damanrico said:
Thanks for your benchmarks. It seems like my card is very slow for a class 6 card.
I'll probably get another one and hope for better results.
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I thought I remember reading an article awhile back that many of these cards aren't what they claim to be for class and speed.
How do we really know? It is just a manfucturers claims, what law says they need to prove the actual class and throughput? And if there is a law, who is going to challenge them?

How do you change the buffer size for an SD card - or is this just a feature of whatever benchmark program you use?

gf_gollum said:
How do you change the buffer size for an SD card - or is this just a feature of whatever benchmark program you use?
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Feature of the benchmark program.

sandisk 8gb class 2 1.68/2.68

If you test at 2kb then it's really slow. The internal nand is even slower. Test at least 4kb to get a better picture or before writing off your sd card
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ChronoReverse said:
If you test at 2kb then it's really slow. The internal nand is even slower. Test at least 4kb to get a better picture or before writing off your sd card
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True, but for me I get the same results for copying files to my SD card from my PC, as I get using the 2kb buffer size setting.
What kind of speeds do you get when transfering a file to SD from PC?

damanrico said:
True, but for me I get the same results for copying files to my SD card from my PC, as I get using the 2kb buffer size setting.
What kind of speeds do you get when transfering a file to SD from PC?
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I get the speed for 4kB (about 2MB/s) as opposed to the dismal score for 2kB. Wish I'd get the 8kB speeds (almost 6MB/s which is what my class 6 is supposed to do). One thing to note is supposedly Froyo broke something and made transferring over USB slower.
I've noticed that copying files over wifi is somewhat quicker than using the direct USB connection. A 223MB file takes about than 20 second more over USB.

damanrico said:
I'm wondering if my 8gb class 6 Transcend SD card is slow, or my phone is.
When using J Benchmark I get like 1.4 Megabyte/s write and 2.6 Megabyte/s read.
This is slow for a class 6 card.
Could some of you run J Benchmark and write their results. Please also write which class card you have (and maybe which brand).
Thanks in advance.
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as with everyone...i get slower speed with 2 kb buffer. 1.5 mb/s write and 2.5mb/s read.
I have noticed one thing though, usb transfer is slow with my nexus one. If I use a card reader then its pretty impressive. So I guess the problem is not with our sd cards but with froyo. I may be wrong.

[Q] RAM question

Such a cool Phone but why has it only 512 RAM? My next phone schould last for ~3 years and i doubt that 512MB ram will be enough
What are your opinions on this? Are 512MB enough today or should i look after another Phone with 1GB RAM??
On which Apps could 512 MB RAM have a negatively impact?
Greetz und Thanks

My Question about the RAM Issue:
- Can Swapper2 be used ?
- Can u use Swapper2 on many Applications (does it make sense)?
Thanks for your help!

512MB is enough..

Yeah i think it too, that first it will be enough.
But i'm not buying a new Mobile Phone every year. And i don't believe if it it's enough in 1 or 2 years. So it would be great it swapper works or sth like this.
Nxt Question:
How much RAM do i effectively got. Cause i read that u have 512 MB minus 128 MB for the GPU minus 200 for the OS.
So there is perhaps 200 free for the apps?
Is this right ?

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Root it, remove a few of the preinstalled apps or exchange them against some with lower memory usage or use a custom rom and you will even have more ram available. I think 512 MB will be enough...

You should also be able to lower the ram reserved for the gpu. It should be possible to free up to 100mb if you dont play many games otherwise up to 64mb.

According to some reviews it seems that the Optimus 2X reserves 128MB for the GPU. This would mean you only get a total of 512 - 128 = 384MB of RAM for Program Memory.
That's at least one thing HTC did well on their latest devices. Devices like the Incredible S and the Desire S ship with 768MB of RAM.
I think the RAM in the 2X is enough to work with the device but it sure ain't a lot.

Bill Gaits Believed that 640K RAM will be enough few years ago
But Yes so far (i am using android for 2 years now) it proved - 512MB are enough!
And if there only 2-3 devices with bigger RAM - so developers will stick with 512 for a while.

my opinion is that 512 mb is good for this time. i have a galaxy s with a custom Rom and i have 339 mb of ram and the device.work fine.
i see that i will use approx 20 mb of extra ram and(galaxy vs LG) and also you have a dual core.processor that optimize some operation.
well... i think that for this moment and for approx 1 year 512mb of ram will be a good choose!
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i just got the o2x yesterday. 1,5 gb og the 8gb are dedicated to android, so no worries, you can install all the apps you want

planetj said:
i just got the o2x yesterday. 1,5 gb og the 8gb are dedicated to android, so no worries, you can install all the apps you want
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That's not a question...

Got a o2x and can confirm you got 381mb of free ram for apps... that makes 128mb dedicated for gpu. Got around 110 mb free at the moment, and I have a lot of Apps running. When I get custom rom, some of the ram will be cleared, when removing unnecessary apps. I got adw launcher running on top of stock ui
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[Script][CWM] SD Card reading speed fix

This is a just a link to brainmaster's thread about this issue. I searched the Vibrant forum and didn't find it anywhere, but it REALLY makes a difference!
Click here to see the original post and download the files you need to flash.
See second post for screen shots of my experience.
This makes my gallery load so much faster it's ridiculous!
Stock I got 11MB/s read speeds, bumping up to the 2048kB gave me 20MB/s, and 3072kB pushed that even further to 29MB/s read speeds.
I am using a 16GB Kingston Class 4 that I picked up from Newegg a couple months ago. Write speeds aren't affected, the difference, I noticed, was whether or not my processor was settled before I started the test. It wasn't on the last two runs, so they have slower writes.

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This was 2048:
And finally 3072:
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.

I noticed the SD Card speed fix also and ran some tests. This is from my internal SD Card (using my external in my Nook color).
write read
128k Stock
6.6 14.8
512k
6.7 18.7
1024k
8.2 22.9
2048
8.5 36.4
4096k
7.6 32.2
I ran SD Tools five times each, threw out high and low, averaged the other three.
It looks like 2048k is best on the internal SD.

Nice. What SD card are you using, and did you notice any issues with 4084MB? I was going to try it, but 3072 is so much faster, I didn't bother.
Looks like you're running a class 6 or 8 by your write speeds.
edit: I'm confused, is it kB, or MB? I can't remember and gotta get back to work. I'll sort out my posts as soon as I get a chance.
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This is most excellent.

Droidificator said:
Nice. What SD card are you using, and did you notice any issues with 4084MB? I was going to try it, but 3072 is so much faster, I didn't bother.
Looks like you're running a class 6 or 8 by your write speeds.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
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This is on the internal SD. I don't have an external installed at the moment.
Edit: What's sick is my Nook Color running CM7 on external SD (Sandisk 8GB Class 4) gets 4.2MBs writes BUT 82.4MBs reads. wish Vibrant could do that!!

I think we need to note which SD is being tested, internal or external. On my Vibrant, the only card that SD Tools "sees" is the internal - although I do have the external installed and it is accessible. There appears to be no way to select which card is being tested.
Also, there is an app in the Market (paid) called "SD Speed Boost" which lets you change the cache size immediately using a slider between 128 - 4096 and applies the change immediately without a CWM flash (seems to also have a Set at Boot option, but I have not tried that yet). This makes it a LOT easier to test different settings.

I'm using a Transcend Class 6:
4096 hack. I believe it only tests the internal.

atoz350 said:
I'm using a Transcend Class 6:
4096 hack. I believe it only tests the internal.
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What ROM, and/or Kernel are you using? Maybe that's the difference? Nice score, btw!

I've also noticed that my quadrant has gone from an average of about 1950 to now 2050 since flashing this. Anyone know if this hack/mod actually has an affect on Quadrant scores? My Database Reads seem to go much faster now, but it could be a placebo effect

I flashed all no change and it only checks my internal sd. I checked the folder etc/initd and the flash did take. Don't understand if there's a criteria for kernel or ext4 enabled for this to work
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Same here using overstocks kernel. No change. Tried it on my HD2 and wow what a difference.

Droidificator said:
What ROM, and/or Kernel are you using? Maybe that's the difference? Nice score, btw!
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I'm using the stock ZSJPJ ROM with the Overstock Kernel. Thanks!
Droidificator said:
I've also noticed that my quadrant has gone from an average of about 1950 to now 2050 since flashing this. Anyone know if this hack/mod actually has an affect on Quadrant scores? My Database Reads seem to go much faster now, but it could be a placebo effect
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My Quadrant stayed the same.

Quads went up 100-200. Rebooted still there. Bionix v 1.3.1 OS 2.2
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Is this only for 2.2.1? That would explain it I'm on 2.2 I didn't see that as a requirement though
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kcp877 said:
Is this only for 2.2.1? That would explain it I'm on 2.2 I didn't see that as a requirement though
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I'm using Trigger 2.8.2 and OverStock 2.2, so 2.2 ROMs can see an improvement, but maybe 2.2.1 ROMs just see more significant gains?
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Says on the market page can't test external sd on vibrant
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Says on the market page can't test external sd on vibrant
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Missed that... thanks
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My result stock kb1 stock kernel with NO voodoo. I can't get better results is this what you guys are getting.
Write 10-11
Write 16.9 almost exact every time
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I'd flashed both 2048 and 4096 speed fix and there is no difference between the two. I did see improvements in read speed over stock.
Stock average after 3 test.
Read = 9.5
Write = 5.0
Speed fixed average.
Read = 38.0
Write = 4.8
I currently running the latest trigger rom and overstock kernal.

BottleNeck SDHC Class

I have a Class 2 right now. I know, "groan".
But i want to get a HIGHER class.
At what class number on the G1 will I hit the bottleneck of the hardware?
What I'm asking is, is 6 the highest I can go and if I go to 8 it still performs like a 6 due to the slow reader in the phone?
Or can I go up to 8 class, 10 class, etc.
Also, I need someone to confirm that a high-class SDHC (like 8 or 10) even works on this phone, 8 or 16gb kind of thing.
Thanks for your input.
I want to get some o' dem swapz in here.
jcarrz1

I used to think grabbing a higher class card would be better too, i've actually bought a class 6 4gb and a class 4 8gb card, truth is it really don't matter what class you have..
Check this thread it made me see the truth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010807

I haven't really looked at class in detail
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speed_Class_Rating
I'm filling in blanks here
it seems that a card will report it's class to the reader and it is then upto the application to decide if it meets it's requirements.
without pulling apart my G1 I have not been able to determine what the controller is to see find it's specs to see if there is a limit to what it can deal with in terms of through put.
I would like to think that the bottle neck is the card, and that a higher class card would be faster
a simple way of looking at it is that even if the G1 doesn't support 10MB/s
a card which does support 10MB/s is more likely to sustain 6MB/s better than a class 6
Sorry I can't provide a real answer here
I would look at the relative cost of class 6/10
if they are not disproportionate then I would go class 10
but if class 10 is 2 or 3 times the price, I would go class 6 (unless I had cash to throw away)
dmesg
Qualcomm MSM SDCC

Thanks for your input, both of you.
Is that script to increase performance that you linked to beneficial in-rom, or just in recovery?
Does that mean that upgrading the class 2 I already have is pointless??

could someone please run a test with the app called "SD Tools" in the market (someone with class 6)
tell me what rom and what speeds you get.
I get 4.3 mb/s write and 18.5 mb/s read. That's with a class 2 8gb on cos-ds WITHOUT SWAP running. <-- idk if that makes a difference.

I think I have a Kingston class 4 (possibly 6, i'm not sure) and my max was around 5.x mb write and 19.x mb read with SD Tools. That was with 2048kb sd cache.

that's not too much better than mine, the stat i posted above was 128, i got about the same as you with 2048.
It seems like you have to make the jump to class 10 in order to get decent speeds on an android phone.
if you take out the sd card and look at it, it will say the class inside a circle directly on the card.

jcarrz1 said:
that's not too much better than mine, the stat i posted above was 128, i got about the same as you with 2048.
It seems like you have to make the jump to class 10 in order to get decent speeds on an android phone.
if you take out the sd card and look at it, it will say the class inside a circle directly on the card.
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I have a class 4 8gb I will run a bench hear in a second...

i have a 16gb class 10 and it writes @ 5mb/s and reads 17mb/s between a class4 and a class6 but im using apps to ext and swap

I have a MT3G with a 4GB class 2 and i ran SD tool twice and saw a small speed diffrence, the first is with stock 128 cache and second i temporarily set to 1024 cache
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XmeccaX said:
I have a MT3G with a 4GB class 2 and i ran SD tool twice and saw a small speed diffrence, the first is with stock 128 cache and second i temporarily set to 1024 cache
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run a few times and it will average out
on a few runs I get (approx)
write 6.5
read 18.5
this is a class 6
so
some class hedge bets and they are classX+
regardless of class read is the same
so for swap class matters, but you may get lucky
for apps2sd , it probably doesn't make much difference
BUT this is just one benchmark program, it could be flawed
maybe a simple script with time would be better, but then you have the memory caching etc to consider
still it is interesting so far, certainly the writes seem to fit(ish)

R3N0V4D0 said:
i have a 16gb class 10 and it writes @ 5mb/s and reads 17mb/s between a class4 and a class6 but im using apps to ext and swap
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could be a hw limit
OR your card was just a re-badged china thing
try without swap running, and the app on internal
that could be getting in the way
the bm app writes to /mnt/sdcard/

Class 6 microSD 8gb, unknown producer (china )
Write speed = 6.5 MB/s
Read speed = 15.2 MB/s
I don't use no modified cache, no swap.
Using 2048kb cache:
Write speed = 6.3 MB/s
Read speed = 18.3 MB/s
Thanks for the cache trick
"SD Speed Increase" app is good to change cache

did i win?

R3N0V4D0 said:
did i win?
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absolutely, yes. What SD Card???

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004H8FTCK/

R3N0V4D0 said:
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sweet, thanks

Wrong section!
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How much memory are you using????

Since everyone complaining about the nexus 4 only offering 16gb as its max.
Name your current phone,
If your using a micro sd card in conjunction with your internal memory how much is it????
How much space you have available in your internal and external (if your using an SD card)
And in a few words what are you using your memory for (remember you do not have go into details just the bare minimum)
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S 2
SD card: 8GB
Internal: 3.92
External: 4.57
I have about 700mb worth of apps, app data...etc, 1.17gb worth of pictures and 3.80gb of music and SD is an complete copy of internal just in case of anything

On my Xperia Play where most of my data is (cuz my backflip sucks):
/data: 111MB/380MB used
/system: 144MB/312MB used
SD card: 11.2GB/29.47GB used
SDext: 210MB/228MB used

I am running duel boot on my s3. Have about 3 rom zips on here. All my pictures and about 170 apps and still 6gb left.
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S3
External SD 8gb (0 left)
Internal 16gb (4gb left)
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Xperia Play
32gb memory card. Literally jam packed full now. To be fair, most of that is junk...

Xperia arc 16GB external SD Card, 10GB Free, 2GB worth of Pics & Vids, rest are mixed stuff
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S3
External SD 64gb (29 left)
Internal 16gb (8gb left)
But I am uploading all my songs to google music + gonna use more cloud service. Data won't be problem cause I am getting T-mobile unlimited but little bit worried about the battery life when 4G will be on most of the time.

32GB SD Card - Full
However because I'm in the UK and we're getting Play Music I will be using GiffGaffs £10 (Soon to be £12) Goody Bag for unlimited data and using their (Googles) Cloud services. Play Music, Play Movies, YouTube etc This will free up about 20GBs of Video and Music.

Galaxy s3
16gb internal memory (500mb left)
32gb micro sd card (4gb left)
But as google music is coming to the UK soon and I have truly unlimited internet, 9/10gb of my music on my sd card will be streamed from google music instead.

Inspire 4G
Internal 4 GB w/ 180 MB left.
SD Card 32 GB w/ 9GB left.
I love the Nexus 4 but the max storage being 16GB makes it impossible to use. Very disappointed in their decision to limit it, especially in 2012-2013. This is the digital age after all, and cloud storage will rape your wallet when you're phone bill comes in if your not always in range of WiFi
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HTC Evo 3D
Internal Storage:
873 MB/1.15 GB
Card:
6.76 GB/9.83 GB
it's a 16 GB card but partitioned for apps and such.
so yeah. plenty of space. 16 GB Nexus 4 should do just fine for me.

I've got 23 available on my GS2 with 16 internal and 32 card, so I'm using about 25GB.

I think a lot of complaints are coming from people new to the Nexus line. I had the same concerns when I switched from my Vibrant to the Nexus S two years ago which actually had less than 16GB because of the partitions with system/internal storage. Currently I have a 16GB Galaxy Nexus with about 1GB left. About 2GB are music files I want to have on the phone in case there are connection issues. Pictures and Video take up another 3GB and most of that stuff needs to be sorted through and moved onto my main pictures/videos folder on my computer. Games and other applications take up the lion's share of space on my phone.
It did take a little getting used to at first, but you can easilly manage on just 16. I've been doing it for two years now. A friend of mine was going off about it not having a SD slot and how that was bad, then he said he had a 16GB in his phone because the phone itself only had 500MB internal storage. I lol'd so hard.

System: 1.12g total 769 available
Completely BS "Internal Storage" 1.4g total, 450mb available
MicroSD card, 59.46g total (64g card formatted of course) 6.28g available.
So no, 16g doesn't cut it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139193
That's a 16g microsd card, for $10. And they sell it for $50.

I have 587MB free on my internal storage out of 8XXMB. I'm only using a little over 5GB on my SD card. I have pretty much migrated everything to the cloud so a 16GB Nexus 4 is perfect. I'd go with the 8GB version but that would cut it close.
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Cirkustanz said:
System: 1.12g total 769 available
Completely BS "Internal Storage" 1.4g total, 450mb available
MicroSD card, 59.46g total (64g card formatted of course) 6.28g available.
So no, 16g doesn't cut it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139193
That's a 16g microsd card, for $10. And they sell it for $50.
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Screenshot should answer So... no google nexus 4 for me. *sigh* :crying:
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Yeah, 16gb won't cut it for me either.
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I can guarantee that most people don't use 75% of what they have stored on their phones. I am using about 3gb for apps and I don't use most of them and never will. A bunch of Amazon apps of the day or games I don't ever play. If you just got organized you could make 16gb work and it would be well worth it.
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Phone: Desire Z
Internal: 479.3MB/1.1GB
SD Card: 6.6GB/14.4GB
Don't really know what's on my SD Card, but I know for a fact that I won't need more than the 8GB model. I don't really get the complaint for more storage space.
Want movies/tv shows? Store 2-3 at a time, it's not like you can watch them all at once.
Music? I have 40GB of music, and that's being conservative as I haven't retrieved all my songs from my old computer which would bring it to over 100GB. Short of a iPod Classic, I'm not carrying all my music anyways. Why not sync a few playlists/albums at a time, again you can't listen to them all the time.
Apps? How many apps do you really use? Same with games. Your phone can still fit a few large games and have space left. Although I have a Nexus 7 for games, so I have less to complain about.
All and all, 8GB is enough for me. I can see why people would rather opt for the 16GB, and I would have preferred a 32GB for myself, but really it seems like people are just searching for a reason not to buy this amazing phone.