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Wow! a $200000 phone bill

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394939,00.asp#fbid=M227xC8oyTv
A T-Mobile customer in Florida was "shaking and crying" when she received a phone bill of more than $200,000 last month, largely because her younger brother didn't turn off data roaming during a vacation in Canada.
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they really need to offer more unlimited plans, including unlimited roaming, and unlimited internationals

AllGamer said:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394939,00.asp#fbid=M227xC8oyTv
they really need to offer more unlimited plans, including unlimited roaming, and unlimited internationals
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I thought this was funny as hell least tmo was nice n cut it
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Ohhhh....that had to be terrifyingly devastating to see. T-Mob really ought to drop that, or at least drop it down to where it's reasonable.

I would say even 2500 is just, I can't even put in to words. I would never use them again and I would take them to court over it. ( I never herd of more than a $1500 phone bill and that was a mistake.) I mean 250 would sting, but you could likely pay that and not do that again. T-mob you are just, can't put in words bad.

And stupid crap like this is why the government wants to step in.
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If that idiot brother kept texting and using data and was getting the $50, $100, etc warnings like Tmobile said he was getting, it is completely his fault. It wasn't like he just left roaming enabled during his vacation. He actively used the connection without knowing the consequences. I think they should have to pay more than $2500.

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Hey Zeus Christo!

Teenager brother (porno lover) + Trip abroad (no girlfriend) + Roaming (no WIFI) = BAD COMBINATION

Cpl of u miss the part where it says they are deaf? They weren't retarded
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ckoadiyn said:
Cpl of u miss the part where it says they are deaf? They weren't retarded
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i personally have an in law that is born deaf, so i feel for the lady paying the bills
Texting is their only way of communication with the rest of the "human" word

Wow...that's a nasty phone bill. About a year and a half ago i got a bill for my landline for over 300 GBP. That's just over 400 USD i think. my cousin and others had been using the phone a lot to make international calls. The bill was for a 3 month period or something like that. Can't remember. But yeah...and i thought that was bad!
Oh well....that's how it goes sometime. Still...a six figure phone bill is insane. The overseas data charges are crazy high all over it seems.
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ckoadiyn said:
Cpl of u miss the part where it says they are deaf? They weren't retarded
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Ignoring warnings that you've run up $50, $100, $200, $500 in data roaming is pretty stupid.
O2 sends out warnings at £20, £40, and caps it at 50MB, unless you've agreed more.

con247 said:
If that idiot brother kept texting and using data and was getting the $50, $100, etc warnings like Tmobile said he was getting, it is completely his fault. It wasn't like he just left roaming enabled during his vacation. He actively used the connection without knowing the consequences. I think they should have to pay more than $2500.
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you wouldnt be saying that if it was your account and your younger brother. get real.

cobraboy85 said:
you wouldnt be saying that if it was your account and your younger brother. get real.
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I think they should cut it to 250 and change how they bill things.

I just can't believe how little consumer protection regulation there seems to be in the US.

Damn, that's a house right there.

xaccers said:
I just can't believe how little consumer protection regulation there seems to be in the US.
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It's only recently that UK/Europe has had protection to roaming fees, and it ONLY applies within the EU. In fact, only recently, Watchdog was talking about people who didn't turn off data when abroad and got hit with ridiculous bills.

holy crap. i would think that the carrier would have disconnected the phone way earlier.
thats insane!

I worked at Verizon Wireless for over a year. The worst I ever saw was 40K. Damn data roaming...
Seems like it's mostly her brother's fault. But at least they're taking care of her.

Ouch, that's all I can say.
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Wind/Mobilicity Speed Tests

I know there are a number of speed test threads for the Nexus 4 but I want this one to be specifically for mobilicity and wind customers.
I have mobilicity's fake 4g premium data.. network type is set to lte/gsm/CDMA auto
Here are 7 test results with a peak of 10mbps down anyone on wind or Mobilicity will know that the speeds are unheard of.
These tests show an average speed of around 8 Mb but typical speeds are generally much closer to the 3.5 to 4 MB range.
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Where in Mississauga did you take these speeds? I'm so thrilled.

Near heartland and about 1 km away from a newly erected tower (Terry fox and eglinton).
Keep in mind these were taken on a Saturday morning between 10-1130 (minimal congestion)
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Ah, I live near the area too. Thanks for the reply!

Really awesome speeds...
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That's impressive I work in a wind store and have never been able to pull those kinda speeds.
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Damn, I feel sorry for you guys that live in Canada if you think those are good speeds...? The upload is horrid but the ping times are pretty good.

shojus said:
Damn, I feel sorry for you guys that live in Canada if you think those are good speeds...? The upload is horrid but the ping times are pretty good.
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$25/m +$10 premium data.
How to complain?

shojus said:
Damn, I feel sorry for you guys that live in Canada if you think those are good speeds...? The upload is horrid but the ping times are pretty good.
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Wind doesn't have a great network, but when you pay $29 a month for unlimited everything you don't expect lightning quick download speeds. I was with them for awhile but I had to switch back to Rogers for reliability purposes. Still, those are good speeds for wind. Hopefully they continue to improve their network.
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i dont know if they changed it, but when i had my galaxy nexus before nov 13, i was on basic data and i couldnt get more than 2 mbps, but i did get around 800kbps upload,
i wonder if got the fast speeds for basic data users too now, if not im going to switch to premium data

I managed to get 12 mbps down on wind at major mac and weston thats using Htc One S

shojus said:
Damn, I feel sorry for you guys that live in Canada if you think those are good speeds...? The upload is horrid but the ping times are pretty good.
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I wouldn't feel sorry for me. As stated above, I pay $24.25/month for my BTS plan with unlimited local calling, unlimited text and unlimited data.
Can you find me a comparable plan in the States?

Wind here on HMP (no premium data) $45 Unlimited everything taxes in
3MBPS is my max DL. Home and office have towers within 1km> radius. Good enough to stream Netflix and I can watch Walking Dead with no pixelation. I exceed 5GB of data per month and would love to have 10MBPS but for extra $10 no way. The speed now is good enough for me. It's bearable.

I'm on mobilicity on the BTS (BACK TO SCHOOL PLAN), and I always get at least 1.5 - 2Mbps, (On my lg optimus one), the data's not that great but I love having unlimited everything. Can't wait to get a nexus 4.

Gibbus said:
I wouldn't feel sorry for me. As stated above, I pay $24.25/month for my BTS plan with unlimited local calling, unlimited text and unlimited data.
Can you find me a comparable plan in the States?
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Let's not forget the coverage is pretty limited and the network is largely hit or miss.
To the OP, I think you are one of the first people I've seen with actual HSPA+ speeds on Mobi with their premium add-on. On the other hand, having to pay an extra $20 for that add-on kinda ruins the low-price idea of Mobi in my opinion.

To address multiple posts keep in mind that mobile is city is no contract. There is no denying that coverage is shoddy but at 40/month with no lock in and unlimited everything I'm not complaining.
To the previous poster: I actually only pay 40 dollars a month including the premium. I was actually on the friends and family plan for 35 dollars and in order to get the premium data I had to switch to 1 of the new plans which pissed me off.
I got in touch with Stewart Lyons and he personally saw to it that I got what I wanted. Ended up getting the new 50 percent off plans with everything I currently have plus extra roaming minutes and premium data for 5 dollars more than what I was previously paying.
All that said though the speeds are not consistent and I would really love to have 20 + MB/s... not willing to switch to one if the big 3 on a three year contract for that.
Telecomm in our country is so f****ng backwards
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Telecomm in our country is so f****ng backwards
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LOL that's it? Everything is so F-ing [email protected] here in Canada we're pathetic to be considered one of the top cities to live in the world. We can't even produce an Octopus card for our public transit system. How about capping our Internet? I could go on and on.
I'd still choose to live here over the US though (well, IF I really had to move to the US I'd move to Hawaii).
Let's not forget the coverage is pretty limited and the network is largely hit or miss.
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If you don't travel much then it doesn't matter.

the most i got was 8mbs, what is the best setting for hspa+, right now i keep it as cdma/gsm auto, to the OP you put lte/cdma/gsm, when LTE isnt supported whats the point

Yea I pretty much can't argue with that.
To previous post there really is no point I just do it on the off chance that it picks up layaway frequency and boosts my dbm.
The fact that I have an LTE microsim just makes it intuitive for me to want to keep it on that setting you never know what impact it may or may not have.
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It's really frustrating when Mobilicity caps my $600 Note 2 at 2 mbps. $25 is a great deal though.

Wifi Tethering (T-Mobile)

I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:

playya said:
I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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You may find you answer in the t-mobile thread
Getting Ready for my mini bath with my N4

Great disregard my post if this is known
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playya said:
I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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they include 500mb tethering in their plan. more than that, you need to pay. 500mb isnt much.

I know that my statement is that unlimited data vets you free tethering...at least it did for me.. Just an FYI to others call and check
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playya said:
I know that my statement is that unlimited data vets you free tethering...at least it did for me.. Just an FYI to others call and check
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Only for the first 500, as stated above.

RussianBear said:
Only for the first 500, as stated above.
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Not sure how else to say this but here we go. Yesterday while in the T- Mobile store the rep I formed me of a recent change. Anyone with unlimited internet can now get tethering for free.... Unlimited tethering and not the first 509 as stated on the web by T-Mobile. I am not a rookie and was simply passing this on .Now if you have asked a rep today and they told you different then fine. But if your statements are based on anything prior to today ease refrain til you ask. Now I am simply posting as said prior as an FYI.... If I am wrong and it slows down after then my info was incorrect but until then I am going with what I was told... Again just trying to help I am on vacation now but will check my acct later and post screenshots if applicable
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Yes you get 500mb of tethering but there are questions as to T-mobile can truly track it since the Nexus 4 does not switch APNs when tethering like other phones do
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playya said:
Not sure how else to say this but here we go. Yesterday while in the T- Mobile store the rep I formed me of a recent change. Anyone with unlimited internet can now get tethering for free.... Unlimited tethering and not the first 509 as stated on the web by T-Mobile. I am not a rookie and was simply passing this on .Now if you have asked a rep today and they told you different then fine. But if your statements are based on anything prior to today ease refrain til you ask. Now I am simply posting as said prior as an FYI.... If I am wrong and it slows down after then my info was incorrect but until then I am going with what I was told... Again just trying to help I am on vacation now but will check my acct later and post screenshots if applicable
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There IS a recent change in the fine print language that indeed allows 500MB of tethering on 'Unlimited' data accounts, and I believe this is what the rep was referring to, whether intentional or not. It likely will never be 'unlimited tether' due to the fact of network restraints, and they have repeatedly indicated they do NOT want to be anyone's ISP for home-based bandwidth. Widespread 'unlimited tether' would bring this network to its knees in mere days. Please consider that this rep wasn't completely knowledgeable/forthcoming.

wideasleep1 said:
There IS a recent change in the fine print language that indeed allows 500MB of tethering on 'Unlimited' data accounts, and I believe this is what the rep was referring to, whether intentional or not. It likely will never be 'unlimited tether' due to the fact of network restraints, and they have repeatedly indicated they do NOT want to be anyone's ISP for home-based bandwidth. Widespread 'unlimited tether' would bring this network to its knees in mere days. Please consider that this rep wasn't completely knowledgeable/forthcoming.
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Quite true it was hard for me to test since I am rooted and I am having my friend test on his IPhone. Easy to think the rep may of told me something wrong. Either way its more than what we had before Thx...
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playya said:
Quite true it was hard for me to test since I am rooted and I am having my friend test on his IPhone. Easy to think the rep may of told me something wrong. Either way its more than what we had before Thx...
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Welp, I did some quick google-digging, and DID come up with an interesting change in terms on all plans BUT the Unlimited Nationwide 4G, which still maintains the 500MB limit:
http://deals.t-mobile.com/unlimited-4g-data-no-contract
This page indicates all other 'Unlimited' data plans (no UN4G) can tether to their full rate...and fall back to 2G when the bucket empties. I'm happy to be wrong, playya! LOL!
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Aw man: again misleading..the fine print:
"Smartphone Mobile Hotspot: (Tethering/Wi-Fi Sharing): Qualifying plan required. Plan data allotment applies.; Unlimited 4G data plan includes 500 MB of tethering. No roaming. Use of connected devices subject to T-Mobile Terms and Conditions."
This statement can be read several ways, naturally...TMO really needs to step up and simplify this silly language.

wideasleep1 said:
Welp, I did some quick google-digging, and DID come up with an interesting change in terms on all plans BUT the Unlimited Nationwide 4G, which still maintains the 500MB limit:
http://deals.t-mobile.com/unlimited-4g-data-no-contract
This page indicates all other 'Unlimited' data plans (no UN4G) can tether to their full rate...and fall back to 2G when the bucket empties. I'm happy to be wrong, playya! LOL!
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Fyi- it was never about right or wrong just trying to pass some info along that I was given. Thx for the link and hope it helps others... Make the switch for free......
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playya said:
Fyi- it was never about right or wrong just trying to pass some info along that I was given. Thx for the link and hope it helps others... Make the switch for free......
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Gotcha...correct info is more important than right/wrong. I just recall several months back a thread where users were bemoaning paying for Unlimited Nationwide 4G and not getting ANY tethering...even when they wished to pay extra for it...it simply wasn't offered (assumed too abusive to the network). Even I was shocked they changed and allowed 500MB on that UN4G plan. Cheers!

I have the $30 pre paid 5 gig plan and you can add tethering for $15 a month. I have used it though with apps just during power outages. I never had an issue but I don't come close to using the 5 gigs anyways.
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playya said:
I know most of us have rooted roms and tethering is not a problem but just in case you dont want to circumvent the system T-Mobile now has free tethering with unlimited data plans. At least thats what they told me yesterday and added to my regular No-Contract acct. Call them up and check it out or sign up online and see. I was told its a feature that was just added on for them this month. My boy added it to his Iphone so I know it does work...
Hope it helps someone.... If this is old info my bad:good:
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Thanks @playaa:thumbup:
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MandoH said:
Thanks @playaa:thumbup:
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No prob glad it helped

playya said:
No prob glad it helped
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I just added it to my plan. I chatted with them first to confirm that it could later be canceled without affecting the basic plan. They prorated the first monthly fee because I'm already in middle of the billing period.
It annoys me that they make it so hard to find exact terms and conditions. At the moment, the blurb on the signup page doesn't say anything about limiting the high speeds to the first 500 MB, just says "Plan data allotment applies." The allotment is first 5 GB at up to 4G speed; time will tell if I get that with other connected devices.
How would they even know (sorry if that's an ignorant question)? Truth be told, I've been tethering all afternoon since my DSL went down. I decided to make it "official" when I found out it could take a couple of days to get my regular DSL back up again, but I didn't have any problems throughout the afternoon tethering a laptop and a tablet. Other than suddenly seeing a surge of use, how would they know I have tethered devices?

MrsKravitz said:
I just added it to my plan. I chatted with them first to confirm that it could later be canceled without affecting the basic plan. They prorated the first monthly fee because I'm already in middle of the billing period.
It annoys me that they make it so hard to find exact terms and conditions. At the moment, the blurb on the signup page doesn't say anything about limiting the high speeds to the first 500 MB, just says "Plan data allotment applies." The allotment is first 5 GB at up to 4G speed; time will tell if I get that with other connected devices.
How would they even know (sorry if that's an ignorant question)? Truth be told, I've been tethering all afternoon since my DSL went down. I decided to make it "official" when I found out it could take a couple of days to get my regular DSL back up again, but I didn't have any problems throughout the afternoon tethering a laptop and a tablet. Other than suddenly seeing a surge of use, how would they know I have tethered devices?
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They randomly check user agent strings. I started getting the warning texts a few months ago (was on value unlimited which doesn't have a tethering allotment) and then they blocked me from accessing Internet Explorer from my laptop via mobile hotspot (but could still use Chrome or my iPad). One phone called they switched me to Simple Choice and kept my contract term so I didn't have to pay a migration fee.
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I just switched to unlimited 4g a few weeks ago and I've occasionally gotten rerouted to a page that says I don't have tethering or I've reached my data limit. Disabling tethering and reloading the page works to bypass the page I'm using native android tether, and that's the only problem I've seen so far.

Time to ditch your Framily!

Sprints shared data plans are out!
http://m.sprint.com/mobile/landings...ECID=vanity:datashare&INTNAV=FS:MKT:datashare

Meh

Looks good if you have a lot of people on your plan, but I'm still sticking to unlimited

xHausx said:
Looks good if you have a lot of people on your plan, but I'm still sticking to unlimited
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Ditto!!!.... Wish they still had the good ol SERO plans... Hated getting booted off that .

I had to ditch unlimited because with NV, my coverage where I work and live got worse. Didn't feel like paying for it anymore

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Ditto!!!.... Wish they still had the good ol SERO plans... Hated getting booted off that .
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Did they get rid of SERO completely?

xHausx said:
Looks good if you have a lot of people on your plan, but I'm still sticking to unlimited
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To be fair...data is pretty crappy atm where I live. I have unlimited but can barely use it. WiFi is my hero... Lol

Yeah....I got 10 people on my Framily. I'm not leaving it for this. Furthermore, this seems like more trouble to find more people.
Besides, I used 50GB+ last month alone...where am I going to find that many people?
And just an FYI, I was finding things to download to test the data speeds at our new place. Don't get any other ideas.

Blackcircle said:
Did they get rid of SERO completely?
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No. I still have sero 500. It is only 500 landline minutes, not unlimited.
Sent from my lair.

I remember an old thread on XDA where some guys were talking about Sprint will have to get rid of unlimited data some day. They were right because is happening now.

Blackcircle said:
I remember an old thread on XDA where some guys were talking about Sprint will have to get rid of unlimited data some day. They were right because is happening now.
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Everything was fine until they got the iPhone and started NV. 3G data became a joke

FrozenRiff said:
Everything was fine until they got the iPhone and started NV. 3G data became a joke
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You ain't lying... Lol

Will they force people off the Framily Plan? From the looks of the new plan, there will be only one bill like the other carriers.

alhadee12 said:
Will they force people off the Framily Plan? From the looks of the new plan, there will be only one bill like the other carriers.
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I wouldn't think so... But once you upgrade you may have to change plan. Not sure yet. Sprint's going through plans so fast now-a-days I can't keep up!

Blackcircle said:
I wouldn't think so... But once you upgrade you may have to change plan. Not sure yet. Sprint's going through plans so fast now-a-days I can't keep up!
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I have a good deal so far at $25 per month.

It seems like a good plan, although after 2015 you will need to pay $15 per line. The price could skyrocket pretty quick.

metalfan78 said:
It seems like a good plan, although after 2015 you will need to pay $15 per line. The price could skyrocket pretty quick.
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It would also seem like you would have to know the people if I understand it correctly because it'll be one bill.

I'm still on an older Everything Data 1500 family plan with 27% discount with three lines

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I'm still on an older Everything Data 1500 family plan with 27% discount with three lines
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I'm still on the Everything Data 1500 family plan as well. They let you stay on it if you buy your phones off of sprint.com rather than in a store.

I pay $300 a month for 5 phones on the 1500min family unlimited data plan w/ Sprint insurance on 4 phones, extra 200min on one line, 27% discount, free mobile to any mobile and my brother pays me $120 for two phones, should I just stick to the plan I have?

$80 tmobile unlimited plan

I tried in the Note 3 forum but it's a cluster fu.. over there so I am gonna try here. Does anyone or has anyone used this plan? I want to switch to this one so I can use my phone as a hot spotfor my computer when I'm at home but I don't want to hit some fine print limit. So I'm hoping someone here has done the same in the past.
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dmonger11b said:
I tried in the Note 3 forum but it's a cluster fu.. over there so I am gonna try here. Does anyone or has anyone used this plan? I want to switch to this one so I can use my phone as a hot spotfor my computer when I'm at home but I don't want to hit some fine print limit. So I'm hoping someone here has done the same in the past.
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That will give you truly unlimited data from your phone, with I think 3gb of native tethering.
Do a search and you'll find a lot of answers on how to acomplish what you're trying to do.
Keywords: WiFi tether router
Hope this helps.

iunlock said:
That will give you truly unlimited data from your phone, with I think 3gb of native tethering.
Do a search and you'll find a lot of answers on how to acomplish what you're trying to do.
Keywords: WiFi tether router
Hope this helps.
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Thanks For The reply but that's not quite was I was asking about. Getting around the tethering limits is relatively easy I was curious if I use say 100gb playing like Final Fantasy 14 plus my normal usage will t-mobile come at me and say I've used to much data you know?
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dmonger11b said:
Thanks For The reply but that's not quite was I was asking about. Getting around the tethering limits is relatively easy I was curious if I use say 100gb playing like Final Fantasy 14 plus my normal usage will t-mobile come at me and say I've used to much data you know?
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No, you will be fine.
Like I've said, do a search and you will see that people here are using hundreds of gigs, some even 1tb+. Truly unlimited is truly unlimited.

I do 300+gb a month and never experienced a slow down or anything of that nature.. Blast for it..
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I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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bipoler said:
I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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+1
Some of these people who use it as a dedicated internet shouldn't advertise it.
this is not how T-mobile setup their plans.
$80 unlimited is phone only data. The plan included 5GB tethering over t-mobile hotspot app.

I hope carriers block the abusers and not punish us all
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bipoler said:
I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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Agreed. We already went from $70 unlimited to now $80 unlimited.

??? Self-limited or Communty-limited, Unlimited Data ???
Why should someone who is paying for an unlimited data service, not utilize it as to their own prospective needs, or be punished/restricted for doing so???? Anyone urging the same for anyone elses say, TV usage??? Or HULU views??? Isn't it at all feasible, in this world of tolerance (haha), that someones legitimate needs might just be different from someone elses???
Wanna punish someone??? Why not suggest say, the Service Provider, who makes BILLIONS (in profit) annually, providing a service that CLEARLY does NOT cost what is charged, by any reasonable standard?!?!? And I'm OFF my SOAPBOX!!!
Sorry for the rant as well...

bipoler said:
I hope carriers block the abusers and not punish us all
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lol? I pay for unlimited, I use unlimited, whats the problem?

domhall said:
Why should someone who is paying for an unlimited data service, not utilize it as to their own prospective needs, or be punished/restricted for doing so???? Anyone urging the same for anyone elses say, TV usage??? Or HULU views??? Isn't it at all feasible, in this world of tolerance (haha), that someones legitimate needs might just be different from someone elses???
Wanna punish someone??? Why not suggest say, the Service Provider, who makes BILLIONS (in profit) annually, providing a service that CLEARLY does NOT cost what is charged, by any reasonable standard?!?!? And I'm OFF my SOAPBOX!!!
Sorry for the rant as well...
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Consciously using and abusing versus using subconscious is different. Like me I don't monitor what I use. is use Wi-Fi when I can, etc. I don't rely on my MOBILE phone for my internet. Why don't they get an ISP for heavy use. If you use 100gb pm on a cellphone in a billing period, you must not work and thus you should have access to a WiFi network. To brag about using high amount of data is duh mm .. Learn the game! I'm thinking of the future I don't want them to punish all of a for a few defiant couch potatoes
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domhall said:
Why should someone who is paying for an unlimited data service, not utilize it as to their own prospective needs, or be punished/restricted for doing so???? Anyone urging the same for anyone elses say, TV usage??? Or HULU views??? Isn't it at all feasible, in this world of tolerance (haha), that someones legitimate needs might just be different from someone elses???
Wanna punish someone??? Why not suggest say, the Service Provider, who makes BILLIONS (in profit) annually, providing a service that CLEARLY does NOT cost what is charged, by any reasonable standard?!?!? And I'm OFF my SOAPBOX!!!
Sorry for the rant as well...
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This is America ...... EVERYTHING is over priced. That's a moot argument. My argument is on principal and moral. I'm not defending the business at all. They all can lower prices. But I like the idea when I use my LTE I don't have to count !megabytes, when people use LTE on purpose because they feel they can now we risk losing unlimited
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bipoler said:
I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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I can see both the points. Eventually the "abusers" will lift the already high prices to an even higher point. That being said - we, as Americans, get absolutely raped on the cost of our service. Not to mention we are among the slowest in the world when we take what we pay into consideration. So part of me is saying "**** these corporate criminals..." Another part is saying "easy does it...don't ruin a relatively good thing..."
neonsector said:
lol? I pay for unlimited, I use unlimited, whats the problem?
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"Consciously using and abusing... Followed by... Why don't they get an ISP... Followed by... You must not work???"
Im REALLY sorry NOW... That I said ANYTHING lol... Why didnt I think of those points to make?!?!?

The point of he T-Mobile network isn't about coverage it's about data that's what they advertise is the "data strong " network they have set up their network to handle the amount of data that is being used unlike the other carriers that have capped data

bipoler said:
Consciously using and abusing versus using subconscious is different. Like me I don't monitor what I use. is use Wi-Fi when I can, etc. I don't rely on my MOBILE phone for my internet. Why don't they get an ISP for heavy use. If you use 100gb pm on a cellphone in a billing period, you must not work and thus you should have access to a WiFi network. To brag about using high amount of data is duh mm .. Learn the game! I'm thinking of the future I don't want them to punish all of a for a few defiant couch potatoes
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This is America ...... EVERYTHING is over priced. That's a moot argument. My argument is on principal and moral. I'm not defending the business at all. They all can lower prices. But I like the idea when I use my LTE I don't have to count !megabytes, when people use LTE on purpose because they feel they can now we risk losing unlimited
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First of all jack ass I was throwing an arbitrary number out there. I have no idea how much data a MMO pulls. Secondly what's the difference between using a cell phone for my Internet and using Comcast besides I can get similar speed for a much better price using T-Mobile. I am only home for maybe two hours after work and that's enough time to eat mess around on the computer for a bit and crash so **** off with your generalizations. It'd make zero sense for me to spend an extra $100/mo on Comcast just to use maybe 20hrs/wk. If you want to pay my bill then I'll call them tomorrow. If not piss off.
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not saying the companies don't make a lot of money, but you do realize that its not 100% profit, setting up 4G LTE and LTE+ speeds for networks is HUGELY expensive.
That being said, competition will always drive prices lower. I sell phones/activations and trust me, 95% of people use 1 gb (or less) each month. we are such a minority that it doesn't matter how much we use.

Bubbled said:
not saying the companies don't make a lot of money, but you do realize that its not 100% profit, setting up 4G LTE and LTE+ speeds for networks is HUGELY expensive.
That being said, competition will always drive prices lower. I sell phones/activations and trust me, 95% of people use 1 gb (or less) each month. we are such a minority that it doesn't matter how much we use.
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Well said. The man in the business said it himself and I know a hand full of people in the business and they all have said the same.
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v2.2v said:
I can see both the points. Eventually the "abusers" will lift the already high prices to an even higher point. That being said - we, as Americans, get absolutely raped on the cost of our service. Not to mention we are among the slowest in the world when we take what we pay into consideration. So part of me is saying "**** these corporate criminals..." Another part is saying "easy does it...don't ruin a relatively good thing..."
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You're absolutely right. It can go both ways, but at the end of the day truly unlimited is truly unlimited. No matter what the nay sayers may think, their opinion can't over rule the fact that truly unlimited is what it is. Lol...
TM, pushed the whole truly unlimited campaign like mad angry birds head on first. Now that customers are utilizing a service that they signed up for, doesn't give TM any right to try and take that away. Truly Unlimited Data is what customers are paying for.
So for them to even complain now is called: hypocrisy.
It also seems that the ones complaining are perhaps jealous or can't afford the $80 plan or maybe jealous of those who have a grandfathered unlimited plan? Who knows. ..
The fact remains, no matter how you tip the scale, documentation will beat conversation any day.
Truly Unlimited is Truly Unlimited. Pretty black and white to me.
And for goodness sake, what's the difference of streaming 1080p Netflix on your phone vs your 1080p TV? ROFL....

bipoler said:
I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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If someone uses 10000gb in a month or 10gb a month the infrastructure cost doesn't change.

I use on average 15-20 GB a month. T-Mobile is flat out the best carrier with the best prices for what they offer. If I'm paying for unlimited data, regardless of whether I use 20 or I use 200 it shouldn't make any difference. T-Mobile makes it a point to advertise that truly unlimited means just that: truly unlimited. They expect people to switch to their network for that very reason. I don't see the person using 300gb a month as an abuser; he/she is taking advantage of a service that is being paid for. They aren't doing it in an unethical way or cheating the system.