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I ask a question that is morally questionable (returning a phone with a scratch to a billion dollar company) and everyone becomes mother theresa all of a sudden. I repect everyone here but give me a break. It's easy to say oh just live with it if it hasn't happened to you, but if it ever does it's a totally different story. And it's not like wrecking a car and returning it, more like... scratching a car and returning it. Then the thread gets closed before i can defend myself. I've seen way to many threads where developers and users get into it and people are ok with it.
It'd be nice in the future if someone can just ask a question in the future to experienced phone users and not be treated like i just killed your mom.
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Androidfan80 said:
I ask a question that is morally questionable (returning a phone with a scratch to a billion dollar company) and everyone becomes mother theresa all of a sudden. I repect everyone here but give me a break. It's easy to say oh just live with it if it hasn't happened to you, but if it ever does it's a totally different story. And it's not like wrecking a car and returning it, more like... scratching a car and returning it. Then the thread gets closed before i can defend myself. I've seen way to many threads where developers and users get into it and people are ok with it.
It'd be nice in the future if someone can just ask a question in the future to experienced phone users and not be treated like i just killed your mom.
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This thread is going to get closed too due to your attitude. LOL

Lol whoa!this guy tries to send back a phone just because of a scratch? Lol I'm returning mine for a real defect and getting the White phone. I have charcoal black and it's colors seem calibrated different than the white.
Sent from another Galaxy! Note the difference!

Androidfan80 said:
I ask a question that is morally questionable (returning a phone with a scratch to a billion dollar company) and everyone becomes mother theresa all of a sudden. I repect everyone here but give me a break. It's easy to say oh just live with it if it hasn't happened to you, but if it ever does it's a totally different story. And it's not like wrecking a car and returning it, more like... scratching a car and returning it. Then the thread gets closed before i can defend myself. I've seen way to many threads where developers and users get into it and people are ok with it.
It'd be nice in the future if someone can just ask a question in the future to experienced phone users and not be treated like i just killed your mom.
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your question wasn't morally "questionable", and it wouldn't matter if you were returning it to a tiny ma and pa company, or to the largest company in the world; what does size of the company have to do with you trying to get out of taking personal responsibility for scratching your phone?
there is no defending trying to get someone else to pay for your screw up.
any questions that ask for opinions or help on how someone call "pull a fast one" on a company or a person are always met with the same disdain here.
If you need help flashing a rom or fixing a software issue, people are happy to help.
If you want help or an opinion on how to screw someone or some company over, take it somewhere else..

Oh God, this thread is Morally Retarded.

Please don't attack me if you have a problem with what I'm asking but does this thread fall under the category of bait and switch? And while I'm at it, please don't press the thanks button. It is really annoying...

The way I look at it, if it's got nothing to do with hardware, software, or products for the phone, I'd leave it off the forums.
Factory defects and issues are one thing to make a claim on, cracked screens are what you have insurance for. But to come and ask if scratches that you caused from pulling it out of your pocket or from sliding it across a table are grounds to make a return on, well go to your store and see what they say.
Just don't whine when they say that user caused damage from normal wear and tear isn't covered.
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Pretty much what they said. Oh, and thread closed.

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Phone Swapping.

So, i might be swapping a phone with someone on XDA. I would like to know how someone would go about this.
I believe the rules are everyone puts their keys in a bowl and the lady picks a set of keys and goes home with that keys' gentlemen.
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I believe the rules are everyone puts their keys in a bowl and the lady picks a set of keys and goes home with that keys' gentlemen.
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hmmm, i believe the OP said PHONE swapping... but i like your idea better.
now on a serious note
Your going to do what?!?!?
Seriously, make sure you know what your getting in to. Is the other person a respected member of here? Its the internet, BE CAREFUL.
Also XDA will not be responsible or held liable for any deals gone bad. Your an adult (hopefully, if not then get your parents permission) use common sense, etc. And dont forget to where a condom and bring vaseline in case you get screwed!
The time honored tradition of bartering does not work well over the Internet as it's easy to be mislead or scammed.
If you can meet that person physically and inspect the device before swapping, it's highly recommended. As we have members from all parts of the world, it is highly possible to find someone local to you who would be interested.
As for Internet swaps w/o physical inspection, I'd try to avoid it. Remember, even though a person is a highly respected member here, they're still a stranger, so be smart about it.
Good luck!
Being your swapping for a device that probably costed you a good bit of money, make sure you take the above advice from the mods. Otherwise, I'd go to my carrier and swap it out. Paying the difference in price could very well be the best idea. The device could be damaged internally or bugged!

What is going to happen?

I don't know about the rest of you but, I have a feeling something pretty big is about to happen, plenty of warning signs.
First at&t cancels "unlimited plans"..
Next at&t gets ahold of nexus one imei's
Finally Apple's WWDC is monday..
I don't know if bad or good but, something is definitely about to happen.. I probably missed something somewhere in there.. But, there are alot of things going on.. and I am wondering what is going to happen besides the obvious announcement of of the new iphone..
I am wondering if a new android device is coming out, or perhaps at&T is getting a subsidized (that feels nasty to say) nexus one.. or if perhaps something else is coming out..Either way it feels like something big is about to happen..
Anyone else notice the flurry of change?..
I would like to think at&t will offer some slack to those of us buying our own phones.. but, I doubt that will happen..
Apple is going to give att a bigger cut of sales of iDont phones. Att is rasing price on data plans for real smart phones to foce people to see the "cheaper monthly" rate of the iDont phone. Since some people dont feel the need to grow up. They still want to be told what they can and cant download and watch on there phones. And pay 99cents for a ring tone.
"Yes i know aboit jail brake but leave out that 90% of the user's do not"
Well idont is pretty much all att has..
They also leave out that jailbreaking voids warranty..
With that said.. if I have to pay full price for an n1.. I wish they would at least give us a break on payday.
AT&T going 4G?
Alright, you asked so I'll spill it. Here's exactly what's going to happen:
AT&T will continue to give their customers the middle finger while taking them for everything left in their wallets. They will charge more for less while telling their customers they're getting a great deal, and they're revolutionizing the industry. They will unveil a new service that is already commonplace to every other provider, and everyone will praise them for boldly doing what no entity has done before.
Apple, on the other hand, will continue to give their customers the middle finger while taking them for everything left in their wallets. They will charge more for less while telling their customers they're getting a great deal, and they're revolutionizing the industry. They will unveil a new feature that is already commonplace to every other device, and everyone will praise them for boldly doing what no entity has done before.
Meanwhile, we will all assume the correct Party Escort Submission Position, and we will have cake.
You didn't hear it from me.
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Alright, you asked so I'll spill it. Here's exactly what's going to happen:
AT&T will continue to give their customers the middle finger while taking them for everything left in their wallets. They will charge more for less while telling their customers they're getting a great deal, and they're revolutionizing the industry. They will unveil a new service that is already commonplace to every other provider, and everyone will praise them for boldly doing what no entity has done before.
Apple, on the other hand, will continue to give their customers the middle finger while taking them for everything left in their wallets. They will charge more for less while telling their customers they're getting a great deal, and they're revolutionizing the industry. They will unveil a new feature that is already commonplace to every other device, and everyone will praise them for boldly doing what no entity has done before.
Meanwhile, we will all assume the correct Party Escort Submission Position, and we will have cake.
You didn't hear it from me.
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LOL....class
codesplice said:
Alright, you asked so I'll spill it. Here's exactly what's going to happen:
AT&T will continue to give their customers the middle finger while taking them for everything left in their wallets. They will charge more for less while telling their customers they're getting a great deal, and they're revolutionizing the industry. They will unveil a new service that is already commonplace to every other provider, and everyone will praise them for boldly doing what no entity has done before.
Apple, on the other hand, will continue to give their customers the middle finger while taking them for everything left in their wallets. They will charge more for less while telling their customers they're getting a great deal, and they're revolutionizing the industry. They will unveil a new feature that is already commonplace to every other device, and everyone will praise them for boldly doing what no entity has done before.
Meanwhile, we will all assume the correct Party Escort Submission Position, and we will have cake.
You didn't hear it from me.
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If GLaDoS says it, it must be true!
oh look, another pointless fortune teller thread. yay.
Meanwhile, we will all assume the correct Party Escort Submission Position, and we will have cake.
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Cake is a lie!
And somebody needs to install the morality core into at&t and apple.
arkavat said:
Cake is a lie!
And somebody needs to install the morality core into at&t and apple.
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But I already threw the Aperture Science Thing-We-Don't-Know-What-It-Does down the Aperture Science Incineration Chute.
Maybe my buddy the Aperture Science Weighted Companion Cube could retrieve it for us?
Does it really matter what's going to happen? We only have 928 days, 15 hours and 48 minutes left anyway.
Is there a doomsday countdown timer in the market? If not, there should be.
Speaking of aperture... if anyone has any photoshop skills please send me a message if your willing to make something for me.. I don't imagen it would be to difficult.. I just lack skills..
And in other news.. I was beaten tot he cake is a lie comment XD.
Morality code for at&t? lets be real here.. they already had it installed.. we have about the same results as aperture... It is still trying to kill us...

"Fantastic" service by HTC Singapore

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First of all, let me say that I really envy the American HTC users who seem extremely satisfied with HTC on that side of the globe. Unfortunately, it seems that even after owning HTC phones for the last 4 years, I havent learnt my lesson that HTC Singapore is truly incapable.
My nexus one started developing an erratic screen and it was to the point where i couldnt even type a message properly without having to power cycle the device to set the screen straight. I called them on the 11th of Aug to send it in (they pick up the devices here from you, so a little kudos there), however, they were unable to supply me a loaner. They said if i sent it for repair in 2 weeks, they would be able to help me out, so I waited. On the 23rd, I called them to check, and lo and behold, the service rep says they have no loaner phones at all, and will not be able to help. I figure what the heck, time to dust off the old winmo touch pro and just send the nexus one in ... the tech promises me a 3-5day turn around. 1 week later I call them up, and the tech tells me they had a problem sourcing screens, and would need to hold on to my phone "indefinitely" ... I asked him if he was off his rocker and since I had work to attend to, I left it at that. I fired off an email at night to their customer service email address, and get a reply that it will be taken care off. Literally the next day, I get an email saying my phone is ready, and it will be couriered to me the next day. I was impressed. Needless to say, when i received my phone yesterday, I was in for a rude shock... (point to note: when I sent in my phone, even the courier remarked that my phone didnt have a single scratch anywhere on it) they had sent me the phone with the screen protector half peeled off (they didnt even have the decency to replace it since they ripped it off, but i figured since they replaced the screen, it was worth it) .. i look around the phone, and there's now a scratch right next to volume rocker. Since it was the same courier who picked up the phone, he told me to send them an email, since he himself recalled there were no scratches ... I told myself for a 6mth old phone, I could live with the scratch .. I power cycle the phone and ...
the bloody screen was still erratic! they had simple reset my phone to factory (which i had already tried, in order to get rid of the problem) and sent it back to me (since i recalled that they said they didnt have the screen in stock anyway) ... so now i am, more than a week with the phone in their hands, and nothing to show for it except a scratched nexus one with a peeling screen protector. to add insult to injury, i contacted them and was told someone would call to rectify the situation ... which obviously no one has now ...
it really sucks because i really enjoy this phone ... i bought 2 - one for the girlfriend and one for myself, and hers works perfectly fine, so i know my screen's just nuts ... now the hard part is getting the "fantastic" guys over @ HTC to fix it again, since they still said they have no loaners at all ... *sigh*
Has anyone ever had any good experiences with HTC Singapore??
if you made it this far, thanks .. i had to rant somewhere .. ><
Mighty long mail. Htc probably lost you somewhere.
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Sad that the only obviously singaporean post is..... A typical complaint mail.
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I feel your pain. I've had utterly horrible encounters with HTC Singapore as well. Not just me but a buddy of mine too. We should start a FB group saying what we really think about their support. Maybe that might generate enough negative publicity for them to fire their staff and do a 180.
Best we can do is just not buy their products. I'm already telling my friends to get samsung or motorola phones from now on.
Your sarcy post title doesn't work.
cymru said:
Your sarcy post title doesn't work.
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sorry, but after dealing with htc, i figured "sarcy" would work better than direct. oh well, i guess it was a fail. cant really blame a guy for trying though.
Ha no you did okay. Does seem like they messed you around pretty good though :-(
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Sad that the only obviously singaporean post is..... A typical complaint mail.
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let me be straightforward with you caysman - i have no qualms rewarding when service is met or exceeded ... i believe i may be one of the few singaporeans who tips everywhere he goes. whether its a kopitiam, starbucks or your neighbourhood restaurant. i have no problem throwing down $10 for a $50 meal if i enjoyed the service. likewise with the attitude ... i sent caltex a letter commending the guy who pumps gas at my regular station because he always went out of his way to be polite (and if you would like to see the letter, by all means, ask). not every singaporean only complains ... i spent a good sum on an exotic supercar .. the service is immaculate, even though the warranty's been up for more than 3 years. the dealer cares enough about his customers that he will wake up at 5am to attend to a customer's problem if he has to. is it so much to ask that if i buy the top of the line htc cellphone, that they honor their warranty at the least? all i asked was for a functioning screen, i did not root the phone or do anything crazy with it - all it has to do is work fine. i didnt complain till it came back to me in the same condition that i sent it in.
so while your outlook on singaporeans may be pretty poor for reasons unknown to me, it wouldnt be fair to generalize.
Boastful singaporean, where is your grace?
Acting like god, rewarding when you see fit? The arrogance off it all just as you buy your first lambo (novelty still there to boast about it huh?)
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Oops you probably have a red ferrari, not a lambo. Pendants usually go for Fs. Enough money to buy the perfect life not knowing that with todays technology,' good enough' is the secret to true happiness.
And u bought the nexus one not for its technology but for its exclusivity. Most of your dumb potters have iphones.
And some in my posts lie the nugget of truth describing the cancer in the world's second richest country.
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caysman said:
Oops you probably have a red ferrari, not a lambo. Pendants usually go for Fs. Enough money to buy the perfect life not knowing that with todays technology,' good enough' is the secret to true happiness.
And u bought the nexus one not for its technology but for its exclusivity. Most of your dumb potters have iphones.
And some in my posts lie the nugget of truth describing the cancer in the world's second richest country.
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well, its painfully obvious now to me ... with you, "cannot win" ... since you have to be right about everything and have your own ideas set in stone - you are welcome to them. but please dont force your ideas of what others would like to do / purchase with their own money. do what you like with your money and perceive everything as you will, but being bitter about it and telling people off because they worked hard to buy certain things just goes to show what kind of person you truly are. if you have any more "useful" nuggets of information, feel free to pm me and spare everyone else your posts. i have no problem debating this matter with you but if you are unable to contribute to the thread, please stop making it go off topic.
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Boastful singaporean, where is your grace?
Acting like god, rewarding when you see fit? The arrogance off it all just as you buy your first lambo (novelty still there to boast about it huh?)
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wow, so much hate for singaporean. Did one of them kill your relatives or something? lol
@mokurex I am very familar with the Singaporean people.
@xevilutionx off topic? How did EXOTIC SUPERCARS get into the thread
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@mokurex: well caysman is probably singaporean / living in singapore, not sure what his game is but oh well.
@caysman: its called an example, since you allowed yourself the opportunity to generalize an entire country / populace based on your beliefs.
again, as you pointed out, no point to argue since you have your ideas and i have mine. think of me as you wish, since its obvious i have nothing i can say that would change your mentality.
@bullyfrog: while the idea of a fb group sounds good, the problem is that HTC may be outsourcing its repair services here... hence the differentiation in levels of service between usa and singapore, for example.
@x You take part in that pathetic singaporean thread at ferrarichat?
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again, you're off topic, but i'll humor you. never posted there before, never will. you're more than welcome to check ip addresses if you have the time. i also don't have a customized "vanity" plate (since you have a 1 track mind, im pretty sure you've already assumed this), i just took whatever random number that was issued.
again, its obvious you are bitter about something. stop going off topic, use the PM function if you really have so many burning questions you wish to interrogate me about. stop bringing your political bs here, or move it along to some political thread. jesus christ.

Warning not to buy Flytouch 3 or clones.

For god's sake, whatever you do, don't buy:
Flytouch 3 superpad 2 (or any of its clones).
The support forum is filled with problems with the clones, too many to list.
The Ibex Flytouch 3 originals have very poor batteries, supposed to be 8000 mAh (2 x 4000), and are more like 2 x 1800. Most people are having troubles getting them to accept a charge at all.
Their internal GPS is locked to China, SOME people have managed to unlock them by spending a couple of hours deleting caches, rebooting, trying to re-fix the satellites, repeat until working or give up. MOST people still have not managed to unlock the GPS from China.
Market ONLY shows the free apps (something to do with fake sim numbers being too fake and illegitimate). When you are sent to market from an email, website, or even the tablets OWN auto update service, it won't show the app you are looking for.
They MAY appear to be cheap value-for-money Android tablet alternatives; trust me, they ARE NOT. Save up more money and get a proper named brand tablet.
Update:
My Flytouch 3 is no more, at about 4 days old the charging battery exploded, melting the FT3 and scorching the computer desk.
I urge anyone thinking of buying one of the Ibex Flytouch 3's, or its clones (Superpad 2 or 3) - DON'T!
Fluffbutt said:
For god's sake, whatever you do, don't buy:
Flytouch 3 superpad 2 (or any of its clones).
The support forum is filled with problems with the clones, too many to list.
The Ibex Flytouch 3 originals have very poor batteries, supposed to be 8000 mAh (2 x 4000), and are more like 2 x 1800. Most people are having troubles getting them to accept a charge at all.
Their internal GPS is locked to China, SOME people have managed to unlock them by spending a couple of hours deleting caches, rebooting, trying to re-fix the satellites, repeat until working or give up. MOST people still have not managed to unlock the GPS from China.
Market ONLY shows the free apps (something to do with fake sim numbers being too fake and illegitimate). When you are sent to market from an email, website, or even the tablets OWN auto update service, it won't show the app you are looking for.
They MAY appear to be cheap value-for-money Android tablet alternatives; trust me, they ARE NOT. Save up more money and get a proper named brand tablet.
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Why would people plauge the world with such horrific devices?
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Why would people plauge the world with such horrific devices?
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People are always trying to find ways of getting a similar item for cheaper prices - I know, I did!.
Oh it's you Fluffbutt, I saw your whole song and dance on apad.tv the other day, not surprized they banned you. First you mess around with your battery config, then god only knows what else you did and then you blow up your tablet. Then claim it blew up on your desk.
Baring in mind no evidence what so ever anything really happened. Then you claimed that you burried your tablet under a load of used kitty litter, so couldn't show anyone the pictures to prove it, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
PassingExpert
i own this and for what i use it for its actually not bad updates are often and like all android devices its getting better with each one!
mind you my phone is faster ha
I got banned from there because they didn't want anyone warned of the faulty batteries, they're the most fanatic people over their FT3's.
So you assume I did a whole lot of things and it's my fault it exploded. You can assume anything.
"mess around with your battery config," - ChinaGrabber tell you to go to that forum for help, and do what's posted there. Now I'M to blame for doing just that?
It got buried under kitty litter because the fumes from burnt lithium batteries are toxic.
Shame on me?? you make assumptions!
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Oh it's you Fluffbutt, I saw your whole song and dance on apad.tv the other day, not surprized they banned you. First you mess around with your battery config, then god only knows what else you did and then you blow up your tablet. Then claim it blew up on your desk.
Baring in mind no evidence what so ever anything really happened. Then you claimed that you burried your tablet under a load of used kitty litter, so couldn't show anyone the pictures to prove it, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
PassingExpert
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*Mod Edit* let's keep it clean and keep the name calling to a minimum.
Alright, everybody chill out. No name callings.
@Fluffbutt: Pics, or GTFO. Seriously.
@PassingExpert: A one hit wonder from you? While I can't agree with either of you, I'd cut down on the name calling, because you aren't going to make many friends with that.
As for the rest of this thread:
/in before mod lockdown.
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@Fluffbutt: Pics, or GTFO. Seriously.
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What makes you think I feel any need to prove this to anyone here?
It happened. Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant to it happening and irrelevant to me..
my 32gb iBex Flytouch3 works perfectly. Would recommend iBex Flytouch3 (real FT3) to my friends.
I bought flytouch3 from taobao.com. It cost almost 250 USD.
It may be the most expensive one in taobao, but it works good.
It can standby at least 6 hrs, and the GPS works in Taiwan.
Market can show all apps including the charged apps.
I just bought one yesterday from chinagrabber, shame on me? From what I've gathered the information this is the best and most supported chinese tablet there is..
Yes another classic example of somebody not doing their homework before buying something and then blindly attacking it with a soldering iron and hacksaw.
I'm more than satisfied with mine, it's not the fastest piece of kit, but for €150 it's certainly worth the money if you have a good working knowledge of Android and now how to fix a few quirks.
If you read around the forums, there is support for all of them. I have yet to have found an issue that couldn't be remidied in one way shape or form. I bought mine for $150 US shipped. I'm no knocking Ibex. Just merely stating that their pad isn't the only option. Open minded-ness is what I'm getting at. I've heard a lot of bad things about ChinaGrabber's return policy's etc., and that left a bad taste in my mouth. I wanted an inexpensive pad with some support on the US side (I.e warranty issues). I know I could have purchased something else, but this was what I wanted.
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I've now been playing with my FT3 couple of days and I'm very happy with it, with Tim5a rom everything works, Market (it shows paid apps if I buy them from my Android cellphone). GPS works well out of the box, it's fast, Youtube, Flash all working. Battery life is very good, I don't keep it on standby as it does eat the battery even without wifi off. If you've ever used a Android phone this feels like home and the performance is the same. Resistive screen just gets a little bit more to get used to compared to capacitive but it's really responsive. Videos play very nicely, only tried 720p but all worked without a single lag.
Hey this thread scared me at start but then it looks like it ended up very good.
cuz i'm waiting for mine to arrive and i wonder is there any complete guide how to speed it up and ect..?
Thanks in advance
/Maffien
Maffien said:
Hey this thread scared me at start but then it looks like it ended up very good.
cuz i'm waiting for mine to arrive and i wonder is there any complete guide how to speed it up and ect..?
Thanks in advance
/Maffien
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The best guide is to install Tim5a rom the speed increase is very good, try it stock before upgrading to see the difference.
Don't.
Market ONLY shows the free apps not to mention all the other problems (something to do with fake sim numbers being too fake and illegitimate). For YOUR OWN sake don't buy this piece. Really if you want an ANDROID tablet then save your money and buy a legitimate Android Tablet from a well known manufacturer. It's the WORST money I've ever spent in my life. PLEASE don't waste your time. And if you do and are satisfied with a cheap poor generic excuse for an android spending hours upon end of your life downloading and installing firmware, then more power to you, have fun. I just wish I would have saved my money than to have given it to scam artists or try to get help from those who need to help sale more CRAPWARE by saying its all volunteer. Really really real. (Now watch how I get called names and treated like dirt for posting this on a thread that is titled: Warning not to buy Flytouch 3 or clones.) It's crazy how easy it is to get caught up by weirdos at crappad tv who act like they are helping the world or something not following any of there own rules. Please DON'T be fooled by the posts that follow this saying how good it is. Believe me, it is not. Save a little more money even if its just 100 or 200 more. Get a LEGITIMATE ANDROID TABLET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh it's you Fluffbutt, I saw your whole song and dance on apad.tv the other day, not surprized they banned you. First you mess around with your battery config, then god only knows what else you did and then you blow up your tablet. Then claim it blew up on your desk.
Baring in mind no evidence what so ever anything really happened. Then you claimed that you burried your tablet under a load of used kitty litter, so couldn't show anyone the pictures to prove it, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
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Oh it's you PassingExpert, I saw your whole song and dance on xda-developers today, not surprized that everyone ignored you. First you troll around with your troll post, then god only know what else you did and then you troll. Then claim something about someone that is nothing but trolling.
Baring in mind you trolled. Then you trolled that someone said something somewhere else, so you couldn't show anything other than trolling, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
Totally agree with you,mine is disco10 version,and use the tim5a rom very well.
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The best guide is to install Tim5a rom the speed increase is very good, try it stock before upgrading to see the difference.
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Note 8 Hardware of Software failure? Please help me

I recently bought a used Note 8, the previous owner sold it as "failed motherboard, for parts". Its a N9500 Hong Kong version with Snapdragon chipset with this CSC: N9500ZHS4CRK1_N9500ZZH4CRK1_TGY
The phone turns on but boot-loops. Sometimes it gets into Android and when it does all SYSTEM apps "keep closing" such as Play Store, Google, Camera, Settings, everything, I can't even remember all their names. All apps keep closing. After massive app closure, the phone enters boot-loop again.
So obviously, I entered recovery mode, wiped cache, wiped factory data, there are no accounts on this phone and it is NOT FRP locked. After wiped, the phone behaves exactly the same and it took a lot of bootloops to get through the welcome configuration screen, next next bootloop, next next skip next bootloop and so on.
I then opened up the phone (which was never opened before) because I suspected a faulty battery, I wasted more money on purchasing a new battery, I replaced the battery but it behaves exactly the same.
I then reflashed the same N9500ZHS4CRK1_N9500ZZH4CRK1_TGY soft in ODIN which was downloaded from sammobile.com and guess what, it behaves the same.
I reflashed a newer version N9500ZHS4CRL1_N9500ZZH4CRL1_TGY in ODIN but again it behaves the same.
Now in recovery mode I just recently noticed this:
#fail top open recovery_cause(No such file or directory)#
#Reboot Recovery_Cause is [UNKNOWN]#
No Support SINGLE-SKU
File-Based OTA
Support API: 3
dm-verity verification failed...
After researching what this error means I discovered that it may have something to do with phone rooting!? Now since this phone wasn't mine I have no idea what the previous owner did to it so I entered download mode again to see the status of KNOX and guess what, it says:
RPMB fuse blown
RPMB PROVISIONED
CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS: Official
FRP LOCK: OFF
CROM SERVICE: ON
WARRANTY VOID: 0x0
QUALCOMM SECUREboot: ENABLE
RP SWREV: B4(2,1,1,1,1) K1 S1
SECURE DOWNLOAD: ENABLE
DID: 205EE0EE92FD
So WARRANTY VOID: 0x0 as far as I know means that everything is official? I don't know if you can actually root the phone without triggering Knox which should then read 0x1
I also find this RPMB fuse blown suspicious which I have no idea what it means.
So can anyone help me??? Is my problem just software? What can I do??? Or is the motherboard simply dead and gone and requires replacement? Motherboards for Note 8 are extremely expensive so I hope the motherboard isn't dead.......
All the best
As far as i understand, ur problem should be software only.... Try flashing twrp in download mode and then root and then custom ROM....all this if the phone is out of warranty. And i hope oem unlock is toggled.... Knox 0x0 means not rooted previously.....try it out and share what happened
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As far as i understand, ur problem should be software only.... Try flashing twrp in download mode and then root and then custom ROM....all this if the phone is out of warranty. And i hope oem unlock is toggled.... Knox 0x0 means not rooted previously.....try it out and share what happened
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Is there no other way? I would prefer not to root my phone and install custom ROM, I would prefer to have an official ROM... also if it has everything stock, official, why is it doing this? Why is it bootlooping? Anyway if there is no other way then please provide me with a perfectly functional custom ROM which I should install. I need to mention that my phone is DUOS (DUAL SIM) if that matters. The phone doesn't have any warranty, like I said I bought it used, second hand. Additionally its from Hong Kong while Im from Europe and the previous owner told me that Samsung told him that they won't fix his phone because its from another region... BS if you ask me but whatever! Additionally to make things worse, like I said I disassembled it to replace its battery so definitely no warranty here.
I will return and keep you updated, no worries. Thank you very much for your help!
Best way to find out is to flash the firmware specific to ur device.... Try the pie firmware.... And make sure its specific to ur device.... Maybe try a diff csc.... Also flash bootloader separately and then try to boot...i had the same problem once with an older device... That helped... Make sure u know what u e doing before going for anything.... But since that device is already dead...u can try...no harm... Keep it charged...
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Best way to find out is to flash the firmware specific to ur device.... Try the pie firmware.... And make sure its specific to ur device.... Maybe try a diff csc.... Also flash bootloader separately and then try to boot...i had the same problem once with an older device... That helped... Make sure u know what u e doing before going for anything.... But since that device is already dead...u can try...no harm... Keep it charged...
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This is the exact model I have: https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-note8/SM-N9500/TGY/
Please give me a link to what I should install. Different CSC, bootloader, anything you think I should install. I don't wanna make a mistake and brick it even more than this... Thanks
RPMB fuse blown is normal. That's how they all come from factory.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
RPMB fuse blown is normal. That's how they all come from factory.
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Ohh I see and thank you for clearing that thing up for me, but...... what's the solution though? Did you read my post? Do you have a guide or an advice for me? Please?? Pretty please??? I don't wanna spend more money on a motherboard and I really wanna keep this phone as my own, its so beautiful!
myrunes said:
Ohh I see and thank you for clearing that thing up for me, but...... what's the solution though? Did you read my post? Do you have a guide or an advice for me? Please?? Pretty please??? I don't wanna spend more money on a motherboard and I really wanna keep this phone as my own, its so beautiful!
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I have read your post and have no solution. My guess is your flash memory is bad, and you can't fix that.
Your best bet is to probably buy a working Note 9 with a broken screen for cheap. Swap motherboards. The back glass should have the IMEI on it, so keep the right back glass with the right motherboard.
Put both phones back together. Keep the working one, and sell the other one for parts.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
I have read your post and have no solution. My guess is your flash memory is bad, and you can't fix that.
Your best bet is to probably buy a working Note 9 with a broken screen for cheap. Swap motherboards. The back glass should have the IMEI on it, so keep the right back glass with the right motherboard.
Put both phones back together. Keep the working one, and sell the other one for parts.
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Jesus Christ Samsung is becoming the worst brand in the world. First exploding Note 7 then Note 8 with flash memory fails. I think I this is my last Samsung EVER. My next phone will definitely be Nokia 9. I didn't had the chance to test Nokia out since they relaunched with Android and they seem like really well built phones.
Anyway until then, soyuz4u seems to have a solution for me so I will like to try out what he is proposing before giving up.
myrunes said:
Jesus Christ Samsung is becoming the worst brand in the world. First exploding Note 7 then Note 8 with flash memory fails. I think I this is my last Samsung EVER. My next phone will definitely be Nokia 9. I didn't had the chance to test Nokia out since they relaunched with Android and they seem like really well built phones.
Anyway until then, soyuz4u seems to have a solution for me so I will like to try out what he is proposing before giving up.
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EVERY company has some faulty devices. It's electronics. They fail. My guess is the failure rate of the flash memory (if that's what it actually is), is minute. Just because YOUR decide failed doesn't mean Samsung as a whole is a bad company or make bad devices. You bought a device that you knew was out of warranty and had previous problems without knowing the history of it. To be blunt, that's your fault, not Samsung's.
Honestly, they handled the Note 7 issue as well as could be expected. They did everything they could to fix it and then finally issue refunds and incentives to owners.
But I'm sure Nokia has NEVER had a warranty claim on any device they've sold ever, so it may be a good switch for you.
Exactly. Plus OP bought a device being sold as "for parts" only, so it doesn't make sense to complain about Samsung as a whole
Guys guys this is going off the rails and totally off-topic! Anyone is entitled to their opinions, its freedom of speech, I perfectly understand this and respect your opinions just as you guys love Samsung, I have a few words of criticism for it but now please no more off-topic messages.
As a response to what you guys are saying,
1 - Why don't you come with an actual solution to the problem instead of talking about how great Samsung is? Why do you have to reply to my bottom message where I criticized Samsung but not to the first message where I ask for a solution?
and 2 - Does any of you own shares at Samsung? I've never been a brand fanboy, why would I defend a multi-trillion foreign corporation?? What would I have to gain out of it? Im not Korean, it doesn't benefit my economy, if anything it harms my economy, as they suck billions of euros out of my country. yearly You guys are too forgiving and forgetting about the people who actually got injured by Note 7. You forgot about the infamous Note 4 and Note Edge "mmc_read fail" mass failures which also happened with S6 and S6 Edge. Millions of customers got scammed by Samsung back then. Samsung even got fined 5 million Euros in Italy because of Note 4 mass fails. There are even class action law-suits regarding Note 4.
It doesn't matter I got this Note 8 used, as is. What about the previous owner? Does it make it ok to fail in his hands? Why fail in the first place? Why would a top 1000 Euro phone become "for parts" in the first place in only a year after production?? What if I bought it new and failed in my hands?? The logic you are applying here makes no sense. I can understand this for a 100-150 Euro phone but not 1000 Euro! 1000 Euros are a lot of money, with 1000 Euros you can buy a decent car, a Renault Megane 2006-2007 for example which will last you many many years so spending 1000 Euros on a phone to fail after just 1 year is ok? Anyway please please no more off-topic. All I said is that I don't think I like Samsung anymore and you fanboys came at me like lions defending Samsung which is a thing I can't stand. I don't hate Samsung, if I did, I wouldn't have bought this Note 8 but Im not a fanboy and I will never be a fanboy for any corporation in this world, unless I just work for them and its my job.
Now please lets get back on topic, does anyone know how to fix this phone?
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Guys guys this is going off the rails and totally off-topic! Anyone is entitled to their opinions, its freedom of speech, I perfectly understand this and respect your opinions just as you guys love Samsung, I have a few words of criticism for it but now please no more off-topic messages.
As a response to what you guys are saying,
1 - Why don't you come with an actual solution to the problem instead of talking about how great Samsung is? Why do you have to reply to my bottom message where I criticized Samsung but not to the first message where I ask for a solution?
and 2 - Does any of you own shares at Samsung? I've never been a brand fanboy, why would I defend a multi-trillion foreign corporation?? What would I have to gain out of it? Im not Korean, it doesn't benefit my economy, if anything it harms my economy, as they suck billions of euros out of my country. yearly You guys are too forgiving and forgetting about the people who actually got injured by Note 7. You forgot about the infamous Note 4 and Note Edge "mmc_read fail" mass failures which also happened with S6 and S6 Edge. Millions of customers got scammed by Samsung back then. Samsung even got fined 5 million Euros in Italy because of Note 4 mass fails. There are even class action law-suits regarding Note 4.
It doesn't matter I got this Note 8 used, as is. What about the previous owner? Does it make it ok to fail in his hands? Why fail in the first place? Why would a top 1000 Euro phone become "for parts" in the first place in only a year after production?? What if I bought it new and failed in my hands?? The logic you are applying here makes no sense. I can understand this for a 100-150 Euro phone but not 1000 Euro! 1000 Euros are a lot of money, with 1000 Euros you can buy a decent car, a Renault Megane 2006-2007 for example which will last you many many years so spending 1000 Euros on a phone to fail after just 1 year is ok? Anyway please please no more off-topic. All I said is that I don't think I like Samsung anymore and you fanboys came at me like lions defending Samsung which is a thing I can't stand. I don't hate Samsung, if I did, I wouldn't have bought this Note 8 but Im not a fanboy and I will never be a fanboy for any corporation in this world, unless I just work for them and its my job.
Now please lets get back on topic, does anyone know how to fix this phone?
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Wow. Ok, for one YOU started the off-topic conversation. Two, I'm not a brand fanboy or a share holder, nor was I defending Samaung. I have owned just about every single brand of smartphone made. I was explaining you were the one who bought a "for parts only" device then complained that it doesn't work and is out of warranty. Those are the risks you took buying it. For all you know, it wasn't a manufacturer defect, but physical damage from the previous owner. Third, I did offer a solution. Buy a working Note 8 with a broken screen and swap motherboards, then sell the other one for parts. I've done it many times on other phones.
Good luck!
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Wow. Ok, for one YOU started the off-topic conversation. Two, I'm not a brand fanboy or a share holder, nor was I defending Samaung. I have owned just about every single brand of smartphone made. I was explaining you were the one who bought a "for parts only" device then complained that it doesn't work and is out of warranty. Those are the risks you took buying it. For all you know, it wasn't a manufacturer defect, but physical damage from the previous owner. Third, I did offer a solution. Buy a working Note 8 with a broken screen and swap motherboards, then sell the other one for parts. I've done it many times on other phones.
Good luck!
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I didn't start anything, all I said is that I do not like Samsung anymore and its my business what I like and don't like and I don't want anyone to convince me otherwise. I can't believe a 1000 Euro phone fails irreparably! Of course I didn't pay 1000 but the guy who I got it from did and the principle itself is what pisses me off. What if I would have been in his shoes bought it new paid 1000 then total fail and unable to fix it just after 1 year!? If this was 1 in 1 million cases, ohh ok, tough luck what can I say? But this is actually extremely common with Samsung nowadays. It all started with Note 4. Note 4 was the first major Samsung disaster. Note 3 was a jewel of Samsung, the best Note ever produced. I not once seen a Note 3 with failed board even to this day after years of use, anyway avoiding more off-topic talk, I am aware about replacing the motherboard, I even mentioned it in my first post, even the title of the thread is "hardware or software" fault. This is from the bottom of my first post "So can anyone help me??? Is my problem just software? What can I do??? Or is the motherboard simply dead and gone and requires replacement? Motherboards for Note 8 are extremely expensive so I hope the motherboard isn't dead......."
Also the phone does not have any kind of physical damage whatsoever, it doesn't even have water damage, like I said in my first post, I disassembled the phone to replace its battery and it was sealed, never opened before, clean and no nicks and dents on its frame. Its like brand new.
myrunes said:
I didn't start anything, all I said is that I do not like Samsung anymore and its my business what I like and don't like and I don't want anyone to convince me otherwise. I can't believe a 1000 Euro phone fails irreparably! Of course I didn't pay 1000 but the guy who I got it from did and the principle itself is what pisses me off. What if I would have been in his shoes bought it new paid 1000 then total fail and unable to fix it just after 1 year!? If this was 1 in 1 million cases, ohh ok, tough luck what can I say? But this is actually extremely common with Samsung nowadays. It all started with Note 4. Note 4 was the first major Samsung disaster. Note 3 was a jewel of Samsung, the best Note ever produced. I not once seen a Note 3 with failed board even to this day after years of use, anyway avoiding more off-topic talk, I am aware about replacing the motherboard, I even mentioned it in my first post, even the title of the thread is "hardware or software" fault. This is from the bottom of my first post "So can anyone help me??? Is my problem just software? What can I do??? Or is the motherboard simply dead and gone and requires replacement? Motherboards for Note 8 are extremely expensive so I hope the motherboard isn't dead......."
Also the phone does not have any kind of physical damage whatsoever, it doesn't even have water damage, like I said in my first post, I disassembled the phone to replace its battery and it was sealed, never opened before, clean and no nicks and dents on its frame. Its like brand new.
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Let me explain this:
You started a thread asking if your issue was hardware or software. You got some ideas and suggestions from people, including me. That's all ON TOPIC.
Then YOU went off on a tangent about how crappy Samsung was, brought up the Note 7, and talked about getting a Nokia because they look high quality. That's all OFF TOPIC.
You started the off topic conversation, so I replied to it. You don't get to go off topic, give your opinion, then get mad at others for going off topic WITH YOU and say you don't want people to try to change your mind.
Again, you bought a broken phone. We told you what could possibly be wrong with it. Your opinions of Samsung's quality control had nothing to do with it. You're the one who steered the thread off course, not me.
By the way, your last comment was all entirely off topic. This thread isn't about the Note 4 or Note 3 or the cost of the Note 8. Please try to stay on topic from now on. Thank you.
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Let me explain this:
You started a thread asking if your issue was hardware or software. You got some ideas and suggestions from people, including me. That's all ON TOPIC.
Then YOU went off on a tangent about how crappy Samsung was, brought up the Note 7, and talked about getting a Nokia because they look high quality. That's all OFF TOPIC.
You started the off topic conversation, so I replied to it. You don't get to go off topic, give your opinion, then get mad at others for going off topic WITH YOU and say you don't want people to try to change your mind.
Again, you bought a broken phone. We told you what could possibly be wrong with it. Your opinions of Samsung's quality control had nothing to do with it. You're the one who steered the thread off course, not me.
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Not worth arguing with some people bro because sometimes no matter what you say, it just doesn't register and they can't accept any other outcome or information except for what they've already settled on in their head..
Now, can I get some help with this phone that was sold for parts only? I swear it must be just a software problem, now you just give me the freaking answer that'll fix this parts only thing!!! J/K hahaha..
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Not worth arguing with some people bro because sometimes no matter what you say, it just doesn't register and they can't accept any other outcome or information except for what they've already settled on in their head..
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LOL. I could not agree more. Good luck with your Note 8.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Let me explain this:
You started a thread asking if your issue was hardware or software. You got some ideas and suggestions from people, including me. That's all ON TOPIC.
Then YOU went off on a tangent about how crappy Samsung was, brought up the Note 7, and talked about getting a Nokia because they look high quality. That's all OFF TOPIC.
You started the off topic conversation, so I replied to it. You don't get to go off topic, give your opinion, then get mad at others for going off topic WITH YOU and say you don't want people to try to change your mind.
Again, you bought a broken phone. We told you what could possibly be wrong with it. Your opinions of Samsung's quality control had nothing to do with it. You're the one who steered the thread off course, not me.
By the way, your last comment was all entirely off topic. This thread isn't about the Note 4 or Note 3 or the cost of the Note 8. Please try to stay on topic from now on. Thank you.
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Ok its my fault for daring to criticize Samsung! You're acting as if I have something against the seller, no, wrong! VERY WRONG! I know the seller, he's a friend of mine, not a close friend but still a friend. He was awesome and I feel bad for him and what happened to his former phone.
Now let's get back on topic and please kindly ALL of you who have no clue how to deal with this error, LEAVE THE THREAD and stop spamming it with your useless posts! You clearly have no idea how to fix this yet you waste time in this thread... You said you offered help? What help? You clearly have no idea, I already said in my first post that I know how to swap boards but I would prefer to fix this board if possible.
I'm not gonna reply to any more Samsung fanboys regardless of what you have to say. You have an actual software solution to this board? Please kindly share it, otherwise, just go and don't come back. The only one who came up with actual solutions was soyuz4u. Everyone else just time wasters!
Have a nice day.
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Ok its my fault for daring to criticize Samsung! You're acting as if I have something against the seller, no, wrong! VERY WRONG! I know the seller, he's a friend of mine, not a close friend but still a friend. He was awesome and I feel bad for him and what happened to his former phone.
Now let's get back on topic and please kindly ALL of you who have no clue how to deal with this error, LEAVE THE THREAD and stop spamming it with your useless posts! You clearly have no idea how to fix this yet you waste time in this thread... You said you offered help? What help? You clearly have no idea, I already said in my first post that I know how to swap boards but I would prefer to fix this board if possible.
I'm not gonna reply to any more Samsung fanboys regardless of what you have to say. You have an actual software solution to this board? Please kindly share it, otherwise, just go and don't come back. The only one who came up with actual solutions was soyuz4u. Everyone else just time wasters!
Have a nice day.
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I don't care that you criticized Samsung. I truly don't. I'm not a fan boy. As soon as someone makes a better phone than the Note 9, I'm on it, no matter the brand.
I'm not blaming you for criticizing Samsung. I'm blaming you for going off topic and then getting triggered when someone replied to YOUR comment. I didn't go off topic. You're the OP, so you set the topic. You took the thread in a new direction, so I followed along, because I thought I was having a conversation with another adult.
And no one is blaming the seller. I actually never said anything about him. I was actually blaming you. You bought a broken phone, for parts, out of warranty. You don't like any of our answers or solutions, and you just want to blame Samsung for you buying a broken phone that you don't know the history of.
Instead of getting mad and offended by everything, take some responsibility.
myrunes said:
Guys guys this is going off the rails and totally off-topic! Anyone is entitled to their opinions, its freedom of speech, I perfectly understand this and respect your opinions just as you guys love Samsung, I have a few words of criticism for it but now please no more off-topic messages.
As a response to what you guys are saying,
1 - Why don't you come with an actual solution to the problem instead of talking about how great Samsung is? Why do you have to reply to my bottom message where I criticized Samsung but not to the first message where I ask for a solution?
and 2 - Does any of you own shares at Samsung? I've never been a brand fanboy, why would I defend a multi-trillion foreign corporation?? What would I have to gain out of it? Im not Korean, it doesn't benefit my economy, if anything it harms my economy, as they suck billions of euros out of my country. yearly You guys are too forgiving and forgetting about the people who actually got injured by Note 7. You forgot about the infamous Note 4 and Note Edge "mmc_read fail" mass failures which also happened with S6 and S6 Edge. Millions of customers got scammed by Samsung back then. Samsung even got fined 5 million Euros in Italy because of Note 4 mass fails. There are even class action law-suits regarding Note 4.
It doesn't matter I got this Note 8 used, as is. What about the previous owner? Does it make it ok to fail in his hands? Why fail in the first place? Why would a top 1000 Euro phone become "for parts" in the first place in only a year after production?? What if I bought it new and failed in my hands?? The logic you are applying here makes no sense. I can understand this for a 100-150 Euro phone but not 1000 Euro! 1000 Euros are a lot of money, with 1000 Euros you can buy a decent car, a Renault Megane 2006-2007 for example which will last you many many years so spending 1000 Euros on a phone to fail after just 1 year is ok? Anyway please please no more off-topic. All I said is that I don't think I like Samsung anymore and you fanboys came at me like lions defending Samsung which is a thing I can't stand. I don't hate Samsung, if I did, I wouldn't have bought this Note 8 but Im not a fanboy and I will never be a fanboy for any corporation in this world, unless I just work for them and its my job.
Now please lets get back on topic, does anyone know how to fix this phone?
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You are the one gone off-topic. You lost focus on your own issue. And the way you DEMAND for a solution makes you look like a 5 year old child. Behave man. Be a little, just a little more coherent. If you are further past "fanboys" then don't say a word to/about them. If you are so clever, you'd be owning a multi-millionaire company in stead of buying a faulty device.
On the other hand, you should be thankful that at least someone gave you solutions to try out considering your manners.
I've owned multiple Samsung's over the past years, and Apple's devices too, between other brands. Actually I'm rocking a Note 8 since 3 months past launch day, coming from an iPhone X 256gb first hand bought in Spain that 2 months after using it the touchpad stopped working (yes, a $1200 EUR touch device stopped recognizing touches, can happen), never insulted anyone because of that, just my freaking luck. Got it repaired for free btw, but still wanted to own a Note 8.
I upgraded to Pie 2 days ago, I live in Argentina, dunno why it took this long, but nonetheless its an awesome device, never failed me nor stopped surprising me (I found early this morning the 60fps 4k UHD workarround with the awesome "lgcamera" app), and technical service is great here.
I hope you can chill, and be responsible for your own mistakes, without mistreating people who tries to help you. This is a very nice place to spend time learning and asking, let's keep it like this. I also wish you good luck on your quest to make that faulty Note 8 work again, so you can enjoy this great device's features, and if not, I hope you get yourself one that suits you.

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