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NOTE EDGE compatibility - Custom ROM or ?

Hey guys,
I have been looking around and was wondering if anyone else has been able to get the Gear VR working on the Note Edge with/without a root or any other methods.
I tried with stock ROM and stock Sprint Note Edge but app would not install.
I am now rooted and tried using Emotion R23 N915P by plugging it in and seeing if anything happened. Nothing so far.
I am still going to continue my search and will post any updates if I find a solution.
Any help is appreciated.

I was able to get the Edge to fit the Gear VR Consumer Edition but I failed to get the Oculus app to launch.
I even tried to manually install the Oculus app but it said it was not compatible. Phone is rooted but as I suspected, I am going to have to flash a Note 5 ROM or S6.

turboheart said:
I was able to get the Edge to fit the Gear VR Consumer Edition but I failed to get the Oculus app to launch.
I even tried to manually install the Oculus app but it said it was not compatible. Phone is rooted but as I suspected, I am going to have to flash a Note 5 ROM or S6.
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Hi. Did you use the firmware Note 5 or S6 to activate Oculus application on Note Edge?

turboheart said:
I was able to get the Edge to fit the Gear VR Consumer Edition but I failed to get the Oculus app to launch.
I even tried to manually install the Oculus app but it said it was not compatible. Phone is rooted but as I suspected, I am going to have to flash a Note 5 ROM or S6.
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dude have you got any luck with gear VR and note edge

I am interested too. Don't want to buy new phone as Edge is great but I really want to get into vr.

FutureClimax said:
I am interested too. Don't want to buy new phone as Edge is great but I really want to get into vr.
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If you simply want to get into VR, why not just use cardboard apps and virtually any other headset. There are dozens available now with more being offered every week. If you are set on GearVR I would recommend getting one of the few phones they support fully ( even those are having problems such as overheating ).

turboheart said:
I was able to get the Edge to fit the Gear VR Consumer Edition but I failed to get the Oculus app to launch.
I even tried to manually install the Oculus app but it said it was not compatible. Phone is rooted but as I suspected, I am going to have to flash a Note 5 ROM or S6.
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dude any luck with the note edge and gear VR

developweb said:
If you simply want to get into VR, why not just use cardboard apps and virtually any other headset. There are dozens available now with more being offered every week. If you are set on GearVR I would recommend getting one of the few phones they support fully ( even those are having problems such as overheating ).
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The thing is that I have cardboard and use it with iPhone; Note Edge won't fit very well but I have tried it and I like everything being bigger but light is going in like hell.
I have heard that cardboard and Gear vr are like heaven and hell
Other thing is that I would like to start some vr developing in the future; just went trough first Unity tutorial.
When I have seen first demos on cardboard it was like going back to the childhood and I have realised that this is what I want to do - make some virtual realities!
I think technology is almost ready and when I will be ready it will be even better.
I am not sure if I should invest in Gear vr or Oculus Rift DK2 as my PC is i3 3220 and gtx 750ti. I know it will work but not with best quality (not sure about CPU).

Totally get that. I have the Gear VR myself but use many cardboard apps with it. Those who try it simply want more. (Why won't it work with my phone? Or why do I need a 1000 computer setup to view streamed games?) Most serious gamers I've asked (not me ?) are deciding between rift and vive. Possibly something like the Zeiss headsets can fill in the gaps between Google Cardboard and Gear.
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FutureClimax said:
The thing is that I have cardboard and use it with iPhone; Note Edge won't fit very well but I have tried it and I like everything being bigger but light is going in like hell.
I have heard that cardboard and Gear vr are like heaven and hell
Other thing is that I would like to start some vr developing in the future; just went trough first Unity tutorial.
When I have seen first demos on cardboard it was like going back to the childhood and I have realised that this is what I want to do - make some virtual realities!
I think technology is almost ready and when I will be ready it will be even better.
I am not sure if I should invest in Gear vr or Oculus Rift DK2 as my PC is i3 3220 and gtx 750ti. I know it will work but not with best quality (not sure about CPU).
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Good luck!

Would you recommend then Gear Vr?
Or should I go for Oculus????
Thanks
Peter

FutureClimax said:
The thing is that I have cardboard and use it with iPhone; Note Edge won't fit very well but I have tried it and I like everything being bigger but light is going in like hell.
I have heard that cardboard and Gear vr are like heaven and hell
Other thing is that I would like to start some vr developing in the future; just went trough first Unity tutorial.
When I have seen first demos on cardboard it was like going back to the childhood and I have realised that this is what I want to do - make some virtual realities!
I think technology is almost ready and when I will be ready it will be even better.
I am not sure if I should invest in Gear vr or Oculus Rift DK2 as my PC is i3 3220 and gtx 750ti. I know it will work but not with best quality (not sure about CPU).
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i've seen a guy attempting to fit his Note Edge into consumer gear vr with some DIY hack on the physical form in Youtube (search it). This is due to a much large phone to fit. Even the DIY hack is going to introduce lots of gaps and lights will go in like hell .. Moreover, it doesn't launch Oculus apps with stock rom unlike Note 4. Its a shame that Samsung build a hardware to force people to move on to new phone. Imagine in the future that your current Note 5 or S6 no longer works with the upcoming new Gear VR v2.0 (for example). Upgrading phone now gets a lot more expensive to drag along the gears purchases.
Anyway, after seeing the physical DIY quick and dirty hack in youtube (he'd suggested for longer term hack, it will require cutting away some larger area of plastics), it suddenly point to me why do i need to go through so much trouble on physical device and without a software oculus support just to have Gear VR working on Note Edge? Samsung gave us prev generation of Note consumer the middle finger. Next year when a new Note and Gear VR is launched, they'll give us (and other soon to be obsolete Note userss) another middle finger, ditching older users.
I am not a VR developer, but I can easily tell that current VR state is just a pilot/pioneer. Because of that, VR Gears will be updated and more new launches will come (hence more middle fingers). Samsung is making a bad move by locking it to only certain phone models making this thing proprietary. Reminds me of Apple (now Samsung) vs Google during the initial Android/iOS fight against open and close ecosystem. Now with lots of cheaper VR sets based on cardboard flooding the market, the competition gets heated with more update and improvement made to these "alternative" VR sets. Just in a matter of time, you'll see a price worthy physical VR set (i am not talking about Oculus nor Vibe) that has taken all organic improvements due to intense competitions.
Since you are interested in doing VR development, i may ask, if you want to penetrate the growing market on a locked down ecosystem that only serves a few (and latest) devices, or a greater market with more generic cardboard option?

Well, that's a lot to think about....
I might end up getting S7 Edge so within two year I will probably change my phone again.
But thinking about better iterations of cardboard is changing things a lot...
Hmmm....
Thank you very much for another point of view.
I am keeping my Note Edge and maybe wait for something it will fit.
Thanks
Peter

I hate how the active phones are not compatible and the note edge is not compatible.
Just one more way Samsung gives us the big f u

Anyone have the S7 Edge and Gear VR yet?

I would love to hear an in depth review of the S7 Edge with the consumer Gear VR. I currently have Note 4 and had the innovator edition last year but sold it on after a few months. I've the S7 Edge on pre-order and was excited about getting the consumer version bundled with it. I was in a Samsung store today and tried the consumer version they had on display with an S6 attached and I was left a little underwhelmed. It's going back almost a year since I had the Note 4 innovator and despite my delight at being able to wear my glasses with the new version the FOV certainly seemed reduced and I could detect the edge on the periphery. But it was nothing major though, especially as I'm essentially getting it free of charge.
What I would really like to know though is there much of a trade off with the S7 Edge. I was so torn between getting the standard S7 or the Edge and decided to go with the Edge for the larger screen/battery but if it is significantly inferior to the standard S7 I can change my order. I was reading that John Cormack mentioned on Twitter that the standard S7 would be sharper with less FOV but that the Edge would also possibly bleed light and make it uncomfortable. He later apparently retracted the statement and stated he was thinking of the S6 and not the S7 however other forums don't take him at his word and believe the retraction may have been to do with bolstering the S7 sales. Personally I would rather just hear an honest review from someone that has it in their hands, I've been scouring Youtube and Google but all I ever find are mind numbing unboxing videos and no testing commentary.
If anyone on here has it I would be so grateful for an opinion.

I got my s7 edge, I filled the claim form and get my free vr set in 4-6 weeks.

I have the S7 Edge and the GearVR. I don't notice any light bleed and find it to be a great combo. The image/FOV are larger of course with the larger screen which is great for some stuff but when scale really matters (VR Porn) things getting close to the camera can start to look overly large lol.
I wouldn't base your choice of phone around VR use. I personally chose the S7 edge for the 5.5" screen in one-hand able form factor but more importantly for the larger battery as that is the critical point for all phones without removable battery - MOWAH POWAH!!

Yeah I'm coming from the Note 4 so bigger screen and battery are near the top of my list. Thanks for the reply.
VRPorn? , I must live a sheltered life ?.

Lol link for future use?

Thanks griffindodd, I've also ordered an s7 edge and was curious and after the dude at oculus's comments on twitter I was thinking about switching to the s7 standard, my worries have been somewhat addressed

king3opobn said:
I got my s7 edge, I filled the claim form and get my free vr set in 4-6 weeks.
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Claim form?? I am expecting it to arrive with it, tomorrow. I hope I don't have to fill in some form. That would be a serious let down.

Can we use our current gear with the new s7 edge? I have the one for the s6 edge plus (from best buy). I'll be taking advantage of the free vr offer, but I'd like to avoid needing two different versions. Too many. I don't understand why they don't just make them adjustable and call it day.

Yeah, I have it. Been playing with it. My S7 edge over heats too quickly. Currently looking into cooling methods.
There is no light bleed at all. I'm currently testing out movies. I wanted to test games, but i dont have a controller thats compatible.
So far i love it. But i hate best buy. HATE best buy.
If you want me to test anything out for you. PM me.
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Can we use our current gear with the new s7 edge? I have the one for the s6 edge plus (from best buy). I'll be taking advantage of the free vr offer, but I'd like to avoid needing two different versions. Too many. I don't understand why they don't just make them adjustable and call it day.
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From what i hear the old one is better. I'd stick with it. My face keeps touches the lens, putting smudges on it. I thought u could use the S6 on the new one. But i dont know.

I got mine last Monday thanks to best buy, so far everything has been great! I haven't experienced any major heat issues. The the free vr bundle they give you is a joke tho.

Fixed my overheat problem. Installed a centrifugal fan. Runs off batteries or any usb charger...

Some things I noticed
1. If you don't want to wait for your VR Headset go to a local Best Buy. Get the deal they have running and walk out the door with a headset. If you go to Verizon (or other carrier) you have to send in your receipt and it will take 3-6 weeks to process.
2. I am running the S7 Edge so this may be just me...Movies work great in VR but I am unable to use the SD Card with Oculus at this time to access movie content. All movies must be copied into the local drive. Since I have a 32 Gig phone this is an issue. Apparently S7 will support SD Card Oculus movie access, but just not right now.
3. Get a Bluetooth controller. The headset functions are on the side of the unit and if you want to play games this can become tedious quickly.
4. Overheating - So I haven't officially overheated but the unit does run hot. I recommend a fan for the DIY fix, and keep the included cover off the unit to help let heat escape. It isn't needed and doesn't impact immersion. Because the S7 does not have a removable back a heat sump is out of the question unless you want to butcher your phone.
5. Battery Life on Oculus is fun. It will suck down 25-30% during a 2 hour period easily. Because you will have a tendency to move your head around I suggest a long micro USB cord (longer than average) so you can leave it plugged in while you play.
These are not negatives at all, I actually LOVE the experience. I have already decided I can put on the headset , watch movies all day forget to eat and pretty much die like that Asian kid did from playing WOW too much.
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SAShady said:
Fixed my overheat problem. Installed a centrifugal fan. Runs off batteries or any usb charger...
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With the inability o add the heat sump to the S7 back I was thinking of doing this very same thing.
I noticed you are using a BFG Fan, could it survive with a smaller unit?
Also, are you plugging the fan into the microUSB on the VR unit and using the phone battery to run this or using an external power source? Because I like to keep the VR unit plugged in to keep battery life up I was thinking of getting a USB port extender and plugging the fan unit and the VR unit into the port extender and have that plugged into a power source.
Excellent DIY!!

I have also bought both S7 Edge and Gear VR.
Love the experience, mainly Gunjack which is really superb. Seen also several 3d films in the Oculus Theatre. It's nice.
For the SD Card problem, you can use adoptive storage. It seems to work on both S7 and S7 Edge.
A problem however (at least with my Gear VR) is the tunnel effect and the Field of View (FOV).
I find it quite limited. When the Gear VR is pressed against my face I can clearly see the limits (mostly the right one) of the Gear. It's like a reflecting wall and it is annoying.
Anyone else has this problem?
Best,

I have the edge and VR gear. Seems awesome so far! I have played it almost 4 hours straight without any over heating. Just freeze the bloat wear, close all apps before entering, and leave the outer shield of the VR out so the phone is open to the air. It hasn't been anything more than warm for me.
I wish they would have given an actual 50 gift card for the games so we could choose instead of just a bundle. I only like two of the games; the star ship game (forget the name) is incredible with a controller and a swivel chair!
My Moga power controller works great in mode B but doesn't work in mode A yet. A controller is a must for some of the games.
I do have to keep a micro fiber clothe because the lenses do get smudged.

Since today I didn`t had time to try VR after rooting... and now I can`t get it to install... I get a ”network error” message when trying to install it!! I even tried SOLUTION BY kikanx: "You have to enable the two applications which maybe disabled for some reason.
com.facebook.appmanager (App Manager)
com.facebook.system (Installer)"
Any advice?

any solution for insane big scale on videos at s7 edge?

I love the VR with my edge. The lenses do get smudged as mentioned above and I n3ed a micro fiber. I think they should of packaged it with one but oh well. The experience is amazing especially being so early on. I have to ge a controller as well. Only downside is see is the Scamsung always using proprietary accessories which in this case only pisses me off because of Google Cardboard. Why do I have to use a different headset in order to use cardboard. Why would Scamsung not make their stuff compatible with both so then we get the best of both virtual worlds. I'm done ranting in the end it's still awesome for games and media consumption.

chiikko561 said:
I love the VR with my edge. The lenses do get smudged as mentioned above and I n3ed a micro fiber. I think they should of packaged it with one but oh well. The experience is amazing especially being so early on. I have to ge a controller as well. Only downside is see is the Scamsung always using proprietary accessories which in this case only pisses me off because of Google Cardboard. Why do I have to use a different headset in order to use cardboard. Why would Scamsung not make their stuff compatible with both so then we get the best of both virtual worlds. I'm done ranting in the end it's still awesome for games and media consumption.
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You can use the gear vr for cardboard apps, and most workarounds are very easy to do.
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Naemion said:
You can use the gear vr for cardboard apps, and most workarounds are very easy to do.
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Thanks actually right after I made the post I found CB for Gear VR.

Gear VR (Note 8 edition) - few questions

Hello,
Here I am again with a few noob questions, please be so kind and help me with these:
1) does Note 8 gets overheated while using it in gaming, watching movies, VR prZEROn (especially this last one xd)?
2) how long (circa) does the battery last?
3) are those pixels really noticable? I have seen somewhere that someone said they are. The picture is not that clear :/
4) something about the Motion Controller? Is it good, precise?
5) can you watch all the above ( "1)") while laying in bed
6) should I just wait for Sammy standalone device or Gear VR Note 8 edition is an excellent choice?
Thank you in advance for your time and answers.

Dadekovski said:
Hello,
Here I am again with a few noob questions, please be so kind and help me with these:
1) does Note 8 gets overheated while using it in gaming, watching movies, VR prZEROn (especially this last one xd)?
2) how long (circa) does the battery last?
3) are those pixels really noticable? I have seen somewhere that someone said they are. The picture is not that clear :/
4) something about the Motion Controller? Is it good, precise?
5) can you watch all the above ( "1)") while laying in bed
6) should I just wait for Sammy standalone device or Gear VR Note 8 edition is an excellent choice?
Thank you in advance for your time and answers.
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Just another junior member, but I'll do my best to answer your questions
1. I've noticed no overheating on the Note 8 during the games I've played or content I've watched, and prZEROn . . . well, even at this early stage, is truly the future. It is, in fact, so amazing it makes it worth the experience itself. Content is pretty easy to find, and can be easily streamed to your device with apps like SkyboxVR.
2. I don't have an estimate for you, but on a full charge it shouldn't be a problem. Several hours, would be my answer, although it depends on several.
3. No, and the free content I've found is available in an array of resolutions including 1080p and 4k.
4. The motion controller is fine, although a lot of content (games especially) require the gamepad. As far as that goes, it does't have to be a special one, an xbox one controller with bluetooth will do the job, or the android gamepad, or any other bluetooth supported controller that pairs with android should be fine.
5. Should be fine.
6. If you've got a note 8 you don't WANT a GearVR . . . . you NEED a GearVR.

The pixels are noticeably
joebuddy78 said:
Just another junior member, but I'll do my best to answer your questions
1. I've noticed no overheating on the Note 8 during the games I've played or content I've watched, and prZEROn . . . well, even at this early stage, is truly the future. It is, in fact, so amazing it makes it worth the experience itself. Content is pretty easy to find, and can be easily streamed to your device with apps like SkyboxVR.
2. I don't have an estimate for you, but on a full charge it shouldn't be a problem. Several hours, would be my answer, although it depends on several.
3. No, and the free content I've found is available in an array of resolutions including 1080p and 4k.
4. The motion controller is fine, although a lot of content (games especially) require the gamepad. As far as that goes, it does't have to be a special one, an xbox one controller with bluetooth will do the job, or the android gamepad, or any other bluetooth supported controller that pairs with android should be fine.
5. Should be fine.
6. If you've got a note 8 you don't WANT a GearVR . . . . you NEED a GearVR.
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The whole thing is a slight blur and you can see pixels but it is still amazing and worth the price, plus alot of content is now reduced in price to just a few dollars.

Dadekovski said:
Hello,
Here I am again with a few noob questions, please be so kind and help me with these:
1) does Note 8 gets overheated while using it in gaming, watching movies, VR prZEROn (especially this last one xd)?
2) how long (circa) does the battery last?
3) are those pixels really noticable? I have seen somewhere that someone said they are. The picture is not that clear :/
4) something about the Motion Controller? Is it good, precise?
5) can you watch all the above ( "1)") while laying in bed
6) should I just wait for Sammy standalone device or Gear VR Note 8 edition is an excellent choice?
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I'm using (upgraded) to the Note 8 version of Gear VR because it would not fit in the 2017 black model. I didn't even know this was an issue until I tried it with my Note 8 (coming from Note5)
It was disappointing, that the new black model wouldn't even work with Note 8. However [email protected]$ Samsung. They careless about customers.
"wait for Sammy standalone device or Gear VR Note 8 edition " I assume this is the version I have.
Anyway, I have not had anymore over heat issues with Note 8.
All based on Samsung Gear Menu
The areas' not directly looked at, are out of focus. You can still see the pixel screen effect , but not as bad.
The Motion Controller is excellent and pairs with it well. After getting used to it, you wont use the pad on the Gear VR anymore.
Can't really use menu when lying down with head flat. The Gear Menu has a horizon limit , meaning you have to use it looking at least parallel with ground.
Is it worth it? I think so, it's second best to the FAR more EXPENSIVE tethered versions of VR. The fact that's its portable and able to use remote, on plane/traveling.. makes it better than those.
I used to use Google card board with Gear VR, but haven't been able to find the QR Code for Note 8 using Google CardBoard. Anyone?

I use the Samsung Gear VR headset 2017 with my Note 8. It is amazing. Loove the gear controller, very accurate and can calibrate it easily while playing/ hanging out in vr by pointing it straight ahead and pressing a button on it. Check out **Altspace VR** app in the Samsung Oculus store for realtime vr with other people live! There are events and people from all over the world. Many use the HTC Vibe and Oculus Rift. My phone gets hot, but does not overheat. It will definitely last several hours plus. However you can attach the charging cable while using the headset. I personally do not see the pixels. I have tilted backto watch Netflix and it worked fine but I didn't try the menu. Overall love the Samsung Gear VR. My $89 (for headset and controller) was very well spent!

Which VR headset for mi5s?

Hey fellow mi5s users,
I'd like to play around with some VR apps and videos.
I tried the Xiaomi VR play 2 in a store and was rather underwhelmed.
I happened to get a Samsung Gear VR for less than USD 15, but I don't think I can use it, as it has Micro USB only, and I couldn't find anything on how to get it to work with non Samsung phones.
Any recommendations?
Cheers,
Linus X.

*up*
Seems like nobody cares for VR anymore? Too bad!

I've only tried google cardboards and it was nothing special. I think that 1080p on a 5" screen is quite low for any VR.

this is the best and f**k the rest
https://www.gearbest.com/virtual-reality/pp_356187.html

Cenexpunk said:
this is the best and f**k the rest
https://www.gearbest.com/virtual-reality/pp_356187.html
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Finally a recommendation! Never heard of that brand before. How is the controller?
Cheers,
Linus X.

I own VR headset from google and it works exactly the same as on original pixel phone (I know this because I briefly had a pixel before I bought xiaomi) so you might consider this if you really want VR experience. It's not something I'm looking to use often or actually at all, as already pointed out resolution provided by mi 5s is too low for me but so it was with pixel as well It's just a gimmick, we have to wait for much better screen resolution for this to be usable.

How about wait up for the Oculus Go? It's a device made in partnership between Xiaomi and Facebook. It's a standalone device with a Snapdragon 821 processor and a 2K display. Personally think it's a superior solution to a phone mounted VR set. Should be 199 USD at retail price.

chrischrischris said:
How about wait up for the Oculus Go? It's a device made in partnership between Xiaomi and Facebook. It's a standalone device with a Snapdragon 821 processor and a 2K display. Personally think it's a superior solution to a phone mounted VR set. Should be 199 USD at retail price.
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You're probably right. I wasn't planning to invest 200$ on this experience, but it seems there's no cheaper entry to anything decent. At least not for people with FHD phones.
Cheers,
Looks X.

You can use a cardboard. At least for google earth and youtube it's quite nice and the resolution is ok, but not great. Important though, you really need to use headphones, otherwise you lose a big and very important part of the experience.

I have the mivr glasses white from xiaomi, made my own qr code for cardboard and use it with riftcat + psmove controller and xbox 360 kinect in steamvr. The resolution is only 2k, but i think it is one of the best headsets for mi5s. Tried the google daydream, too. Greetz

elbohno said:
The resolution is only 2k, but i think it is one of the best headsets for mi5s.
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2K? How can that be, as the mi5s only has a 1080p display?
I think I'll wait for Oculus Go to come out and see what the reviews say.
Cheers,
Linus X.

Linus X. said:
2K? How can that be, as the mi5s only has a 1080p display?
I think I'll wait for Oculus Go to come out and see what the reviews say.
Cheers,
Linus X.
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Yes you are right , it isn´t 2k, and i have to edit my review, the Xiaomi mi vr glasses seems to be not easy to setup for googlecardboard qr, i compared picture quality again and i´m not able to bring it on the same level as like daydream. but that depends on my qrcode.
does anybody have a qr code for that xiaomi mi vr glasses white? i searched for it , but no results. Only able to use it in ,,good quality" with mi vr app, but only chinese staff.

Upgrade from Gear S3 Frontier to Watch 3 or not?

All,
I bought the Gear S3 Frontier at launch and I am still wearing it every day. Now I am trying to find reasons why I should upgrade this watch to a Watch 3, as the S3 is already some years old. Except for blood saturation measurement, I did not really see big upgrades or new features that justify the expenses. Also the lack of new great apps (except for watch faces) and support for Samsung Pay in The Netherlands are holding me back for this upgrade. Am I missing some great reasons to get the Watch 3, except for some change of aestethics?

I have SM-R760...
GW3 has new Tizen 5.5...
Pro GW3
8 GB eMMC
Blood Pressure and ECG possible... if not in official way then via Sideload...
Contra
New and expensive...
Blood Oxygen seems again not in all countries...
And for sure... NO changes to Samsung Pay...
My opinion.
I would wait if somebody from Netherlands confirm all things you wish will work...
Best Regards

I second what adfree said.
Do some reading
https://www.sammobile.com/opinion/reasons-to-avoid-buying-galaxy-watch-3/amp/

gschot said:
All,
I bought the Gear S3 Frontier at launch and I am still wearing it every day. Now I am trying to find reasons why I should upgrade this watch to a Watch 3, as the S3 is already some years old. Except for blood saturation measurement, I did not really see big upgrades or new features that justify the expenses. Also the lack of new great apps (except for watch faces) and support for Samsung Pay in The Netherlands are holding me back for this upgrade. Am I missing some great reasons to get the Watch 3, except for some change of aestethics?
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I have an SM-770 (S3) and I just upgraded; I should receive my GW3 later today. Reasons I upgraded:
Leaner profile
IP68 rating
ECG (sensor approved in US, but app may be delayed)
Blood Oxygen sensor (Firmware update just released in US)
Blood pressure
Samsung gave me $100 trade in for my S3, about the same as what I thought I could get selling it.
My biggest disappointment will be no MST.

I decided to upgrade my Frontier to the 41mm as well. I like the smaller watch rather than the larger S3. I found myself using the S2 classic titanium more than the S3 just due to the size. Since I am getting the Note 20 Ultra, I love the fact that I can charge the new watch by putting it on the back of the Note. One less accessory to carry when I start travelling again.

I'd add a caveat about the ECG and BPM....They are on-demand features currently (I doubt that changes). If you don't need constant monitoring, there are other consumer devices you can get ranging from about $80-$200 that have BPM (with a cuff) and ECG nodes. Also, you need a quality BPM monitor with a cuff to calibrate the watch monthly, anyway.
Unless you're a competitive athlete, VO2 max is kind of a gimmick.
SPo2 might be worthwhile if you suffer from asthma in any way. It's also helpful for identifying potential sleep apnea. But, again, you can get a few good consumer monitors to do that in the $120-$180 range.
I understand the sleep tracking is much improved. But, frankly, there are a few Android apps and a few smart rings that are far superior.

Smartwatches not only need to be functional, but as an accessory you wear they need to look good too. Whilst I liked the frontier, the Galaxy Watch I bought to replace it looked so much better. The Watch 3 takes that a step further and looks fantastic. Plus the battery in your Frontier is getting on a bit now, it's going to degrade and underperform. So I would say upgrading for better functions and a better overall look, it's definitely worth it.
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I really like the 1.4" display on the 45mm. My old watch was 1.2", and it makes a big difference if you're a low-brow abuser of classic luxury knock-off watchfaces like me.

I received the 41mm Silver today and am returning it immediately. Compared to the S2 Classic Platinum or the S3 Classic, it feels too thick for the diameter. The black bezel seems cheesy to me and I just can't see using the Watch 3. I'll stay with the S2 and S3.

Again, I love the bigger 1.4" display. The rotating bezel is not something I would miss, and aesthetically I'd agree this could have been done better. The larger crystal and smaller bezel is a more modern look you can find on luxury watches, a matter of preference IMO.

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I received the 41mm Silver today and am returning it immediately. Compared to the S2 Classic Platinum or the S3 Classic, it feels too thick for the diameter. The black bezel seems cheesy to me and I just can't see using the Watch 3. I'll stay with the S2 and S3.
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Not sure what you mean by 'cheesy'. Perhaps elaborate a bit.
I ordered the 45mm silver one, arriving today. I am upgrading from the Galaxy Watch (1st gen) which is also silver, both look premium to me.
Maybe it's because you ordered the smaller version and it somehow just doesn't look right? I will give my verdict later today.
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I received my 45mm black GW3 yesterday and it is replacing my S3 Frontier. I took it for multiple tracked bike rides and have constant HR monitoing turned on. I will be keeping it, however the Pulse O2 feature is quite finicky to get consistient results. and you dont seem to get access to Vo2 max data for cycling.
Looks wise on a medium man-sized wrist I think it looks smaller than my Frontier.

$100 trade-in is why I made the switch. My Gear S3 was having issues so before it failed I decided to take advantage of the trade-in offer. I am very happy with Watch 3. It's much faster and a charge lasts twice as long. If your S3 is working fine and doesn't seem sluggish to you, might be best to wait for the price of the Watch 3 to come down. But if you think you may need a new watch fairly soon, the Watch 3 is the best new watch available so trade in while you can.

I stopped by Best Buy yesterday with my S3 Classic on my wrist. Looking at the watches side by side, I didn't see much reason to upgrade unless my S3 stops holding a charge. At this point I am still getting two days use on the S3.

upgrading for better functions, latest software & hardware, warranty, etc. should be a nice ride...
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EDIT: Right after I ordered I saw that Sammy today announced the titanium version coming out on October 2. I'm gonna wait for that one and cancelled the order mentioned below.
Call me a sucker for a deal, but when I checked into my Samsung account today to see the shipping date on my Tab S7 Plus, I noticed a header giving up to 30% off certain accessories. Between the Military discount and the offered discount on the large silver version, I picked up the Watch3 for $358 pre-tax. Total discount of 17% for the silver so I'm in. Sammy didn't offer a trade in for my S3 Classic so I'll probably put in it on the Bay.

^good deal: what size? LTE?

galaxys said:
^good deal: what size? LTE?
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This was for the bluetooth large in silver. The offer was still on this morning, but I'm gonna wait for the Titanium.