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what is the difference between the xt1050 and the xt 1060, i see on ebay theres a listing for motherboards rot $29 model # xt1050 listed as a generic cdma model, phonearena has no listing on the xt1050, did google search and found link that suggest its not compatible in the us. it it possible to install the xt1050 board in device for sell in the us as a cdma device?
Don't bet on it!
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I can partially answer that. the xt1050 is a device sold by 'regional carriers'. for example, I have an xt1050 but which was sold by alltel. there are other xt1050 models sold by Inland Cellular, Illinois Valley Cellular etc. Basically the xt1050 was the model sold by very small cellular companies. I can't vouch for other models besides the one i have but my alltel xt1050 was able to be unlocked officially via moto website. I was also able to install twrp on it.
But it gets more complex. There are apparently different firmware versions for each different xt1050 model. see this page here https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/94927/p/30,6720,8696 (under ACG Regional Carriers). Now what, if anything, is different between the different firmware numbers... I've no idea.
Finally, according to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56803257&postcount=60 the xt1050 actually shares the same fcc number as the xt1060. This is pretty much all the info I've gathered.
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x000x said:
I can partially answer that. the xt1050 is a device sold by 'regional carriers'. for example, I have an xt1050 but which was sold by alltel. there are other xt1050 models sold by Inland Cellular, Illinois Valley Cellular etc. Basically the xt1050 was the model sold by very small cellular companies. I can't vouch for other models besides the one i have but my alltel xt1050 was able to be unlocked officially via moto website. I was also able to install twrp on it.
But it gets more complex. There are apparently different firmware versions for each different xt1050 model. see this page here https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/94927/p/30,6720,8696 (under ACG Regional Carriers). Now what, if anything, is different between the different firmware numbers... I've no idea.
Finally, according to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56803257&postcount=60 the xt1050 actually shares the same fcc number as the xt1060. This is pretty much all the info I've gathered.
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So what does it exactly meaan?
I am using v 1060 verizon outside the US.
Working well, haven't rooted yet and been waiting for Android L.
stevedat said:
So what does it exactly meaan?
I am using v 1060 verizon outside the US.
Working well, haven't rooted yet and been waiting for Android L.
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Can someone, say whether xt1060 is easier to root and cheaper than the former?
The 1050 is an AT&T, with 1060 being Verizon, which is more likely to cause less problemsin EU over the course of its use?
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Can someone, say whether xt1060 is easier to root and cheaper than the former?
The 1050 is an AT&T, with 1060 being Verizon, which is more likely to cause less problemsin EU over the course of its use?
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I have found that XT1060 means Verizon carrier - read it from a thread on somewhere of the 4rum.
I am owning that one using out of the US and everyting works fine for me now.
Rooting is just like playing around with the Rom there is nothing else.
A custom rom lacks Moto features, such as: active display, spotty, etc - a big díappointment!
Android L is pretty good with material design, but that is the only thing.
stevedat said:
I have found that XT1060 means Verizon carrier - read it from a thread on somewhere of the 4rum.
I am owning that one using out of the US and everyting works fine for me now.
Rooting is just like playing around with the Rom there is nothing else.
A custom rom lacks Moto features, such as: active display, spotty, etc - a big díappointment!
Android L is pretty good with material design, but that is the only thing.
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I am finding it hard to believe that Verizon phones are working worries free outwith the US with European. if I recall correctly Europe being Gsm network where Verizon phones are the other one. I really don't know, I will be going for AT&T over Verizon despite it's lack of customizability. Very disappointing ****!
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I am finding it hard to believe that Verizon phones are working worries free outwith the US with European. if I recall correctly Europe being Gsm network where Verizon phones are the other one. I really don't know, I will be going for AT&T over Verizon despite it's lack of customizability. Very disappointing ****!
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I got this vrz moto x 2013 by exchanging with my sony phone. I am an asian buddy. In the back of my phone there is a logo with Verizon carrier.
I am running 4.4.4 and being happy with it. Moto's features are cool stuffs.
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What country are you living in? thanks
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I am finding it hard to believe that Verizon phones are working worries free outwith the US with European. if I recall correctly Europe being Gsm network where Verizon phones are the other one. I really don't know, I will be going for AT&T over Verizon despite it's lack of customizability. Very disappointing ****!
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All Verizon LTE phones come SIM unlocked, meaning that they work fine on GSM carriers. The only problem that might show up is that LTE bands will likely not match, meaning the device is limited to HSPA+.
As for which is easier to root, the Verizon one will not be easy to root unless it's a developer edition. The XT1050 might be easily rootable, but there may be trouble using it on GSM carriers. It is not the ATT version of the X, rather it is the version used for smaller regional US carriers. The ATT version of the X is the XT1058 (also the version number for the Rogers Canada model). If I remember right, there are a few threads of people having problems SIM unlocking the XT1050 to use with carriers other than US Cellular (but you might need to search that info out).
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All Verizon LTE phones come SIM unlocked, meaning that they work fine on GSM carriers. The only problem that might show up is that LTE bands will likely not match, meaning the device is limited to HSPA+.
As for which is easier to root, the Verizon one will not be easy to root unless it's a developer edition. The XT1050 might be easily rootable, but there may be trouble using it on GSM carriers. It is not the ATT version of the X, rather it is the version used for smaller regional US carriers. The ATT version of the X is the XT1058 (also the version number for the Rogers Canada model). If I remember right, there are a few threads of people having problems SIM unlocking the XT1050 to use with carriers other than US Cellular (but you might need to search that info out).
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Yes, I am referring to x1058, respectivelly At&T, I have no knowledge over a 1060, as the supplier only does 1058 and the Verizon one. With that being said, and by you marking Verizon bootloader unlockable, I guess I have no choice but to go with the AT&T and get a sunrise right after. ****e!
ps/ The dealer does infact says the Verizon one comes sim unlocked, but still the lack of customizability renders it rather unattractive in my mind!
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Yes, I am referring to x1058, respectivelly At&T, I have no knowledge over a 1060, as the supplier only does 1058 and the Verizon one. With that being said, and by you marking Verizon bootloader unlockable, I guess I have no choice but to go with the AT&T and get a sunrise right after. ****e!
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Sorry if I wasn't clear. The XT1060 is the Verizon Moto X model number, the XT1050 is not. I believe the XT1050, which is used for regional carriers, has CDMA capabilities like the Verizon model (again, the XT1060). If it's still on 4.4.2, the Verizon model can be unlocked via Sunshine as well, but your best bet for compatibility is the AT&T 1058, since it has the widest range of LTE bands. Good luck!
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Sorry if I wasn't clear. The XT1060 is the Verizon Moto X model number, the XT1050 is not. I believe the XT1050, which is used for regional carriers, has CDMA capabilities like the Verizon model (again, the XT1060). If it's still on 4.4.2, the Verizon model can be unlocked via Sunshine as well, but your best bet for compatibility is the AT&T 1058, since it has the widest range of LTE bands. Good luck!
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Yes , that's in line with what I was thinking of. I will go with the at&t and hope for the best!
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Vietnam
So can i use xt1050 on gsm carriers in US and outside US? thanks
Hello all,
Was thinking about trying out the Moto X. I had lurked somewhere in the general forums and thought I saw something that said that if we flashed the System ROM/Dump from something like the XT1053 to the XT1060, XT1058, etc, the phone would essentially become the XT1053 -- provided the Bootloader is unlocked, etc.
Do they all have the same radio, more-or-less, and are capable of just flashing to get it to work? I saw something about possibly getting T-Mobile to work on an "unlocked" XT1060, but issues with APN's, etc -- my goal is to not have to worry about that whatsoever -- and just use it with stock/without weird configuration (had to do this on a Sprint phone that was ported to cricket years ago -- was somewhat of a pain).
So yeah -- per the original question -- is the only difference on the phones the radio LOCKs based on Firmware -- and if I flash a XT1053 image on XT1060 phone, will that behave exactly the same as a XT1053 thereafter? (and kudos if anyone has any links so I can refer to that process later)
Thank you!
Vzn Moto X on T-Mo You should check out this thread.
I've been looking for info for a similar question. I have an xt1053 unlocked on T-Mo (very happy) but have considered getting a new phone and giving the X to my wife on Verizon through her work. I think the xt1053 can be flashed with Verizon stock rom, APN adjusted, new sim and used on their network, but can't confirm it. I think the X's have both GSM and CDMA bands available so it should be doable.
That seems to be the case, but looks like I'd need to find a 4.3 or before device to unlock the Bootloader (if I can), and then to flash a T-Mobile ROM to it to update it as necessary... Looks like an interesting option.
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Vzn Moto X on T-Mo You should check out this thread.
I've been looking for info for a similar question. I have an xt1053 unlocked on T-Mo (very happy) but have considered getting a new phone and giving the X to my wife on Verizon through her work. I think the xt1053 can be flashed with Verizon stock rom, APN adjusted, new sim and used on their network, but can't confirm it. I think the X's have both GSM and CDMA bands available so it should be doable.
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That seems to be the case, but looks like I'd need to find a 4.3 or before device to unlock the Bootloader (if I can), and then to flash a T-Mobile ROM to it to update it as necessary... Looks like an interesting option.
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Just to clear it up:
The XT1053 can NEVER be used on Verizon. Never ever. Can you flash the VZW ROM? Sure (even though it's not safe). Can you actually get it to work on VZW? Absolutely not. The XT1053 is a GSM-only phone. Verizon is a CDMA network. That's like trying to play a cassette tape in a CD player - they just aren't compatible.
Now for the reverse scenario: The Verizon moto X has BOTH GSM **AND** CDMA radios inside, which is why you CAN use the VZW variant on T-Mobile.
And finally, you CAN use a non-XT1053 (for instance, the XT1058) on T-Mobile, but you might not get LTE or HSPA+ depending on the frequencies supported by the model you are referencing. Calls/texts will most definitely work.
The individual variants DO have totally different frequency bands that are supported. You need to check the frequencies supported BEFORE you make a purchase - otherwise you may well find that calls and texts work, but you can only get 2G (EDGE) data.
Good Luck guys.
So... that being said, it looks like T-Mobile is compatible with the XT-1058 -- 1058 shares all the same LTE bands as 1053, per Wikipedia; it does lack one of the bands for 3G on T-Mobile (1700), but does have the 1900 that I believe T-Mobile was moving its 3G service to, anyhow.
Now, the real question... if I unlock the boot loader, I wonder if I could flash a similar version'd (i.e. 4.4.3 -> 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 -> 4.4.4) image over. Looks like I'm pursuing a 1058 at this point... Thoughts?
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So... that being said, it looks like T-Mobile is compatible with the XT-1058 -- 1058 shares all the same LTE bands as 1053, per Wikipedia; it does lack one of the bands for 3G on T-Mobile (1700), but does have the 1900 that I believe T-Mobile was moving its 3G service to, anyhow.
Now, the real question... if I unlock the boot loader, I wonder if I could flash a similar version'd (i.e. 4.4.3 -> 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 -> 4.4.4) image over. Looks like I'm pursuing a 1058 at this point... Thoughts?
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Due to the different frequencies supported, the modem/radio files vary from SBF to SBF.
In some cases, people have flashed one model GSM X with the SBF from another GSM model and it has worked, and in other cases they have lost use of the radio.
Being on Verizon, I haven't experimented with cross flashing radio/modem files, nor have I kept up with it completely to know the whats, whys, etc. and certainly can't advise what is safe and what is not.
However, there are a few things I can tell you for sure...
If you cross flash, do NOT ever downgrade. You will risk bricking your device. If you mix and match parts (radio, recovery from one ROM with a system from another), do NOT take an OTA. It will either fail or BRICK your device.
In order to flash the SBF from another model X on your X (say flash a XT1053 SBF onto an XT1058) you need to have an unlocked bootloader.
With the XT1058 in the USA, that is an ATT Device. The only way to unlock its bootloader is to hope either Sunshine works, or the Chinese Middleman has the unlock code for your phone's IMEI.
The ATT XT1058 is SIM locked, so you'll have to buy a code for that too otherwise the phone will reject the non-ATT SIM.
Due to the radio chips and antenna setup inside the X, just flashing the SBF from another model (including its modem/radio files) might not get you support of additional frequencies.
The easiest thing to do.. Buy an XT1058, unlock its bootloader, sim unlock it, and use it as-is with a T-Mobile SIM. Root it, remove any bloat you want, and block future OTA's (unless you put the bloat back). It will work for all T-Mobile bands/frequencies except 4G/HSPA+ on AWS (i.e. 1700/2100Mhz HSPA+) In those areas you'll get EDGE. However as T-Mobile completes its "Network Modernization" around the country, it is shifting HSPA+ to 1900Mhz which the ATT XT1058 supports, so in those areas you'll get HSPA+ just fine.
Okay so I am confused... I have a Telus XT1097, There is a xt1097 sold in the US as well as XT1095 (PE from motomaker) Mexico and Brazil also have XT1097 both have been updated OTA. In the US everyone but AT&T have been updated, Canada has yet to see an update but what is the difference between all these phones? Is it sim lock (Telus) or sim lock and boot loader lock (also Telus but unlock able) It would seem that other than region, they should all be equal no?
The hardware in the XT1095 and XT1097 is identical between all models/variations. The firmware is what is different between them. Motorola calls the true "pure" version the XT1095, all of the carrier branded models are the XT1097. Each of the carrier branded models has unique programming for the country, provider etc. The sim lock and bootloader lock are selected by the provider and then Motorola programs the phones to match what they want(well the bootloader lock is handled by a master server but the providers still determine if it will be allowed or not).
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The hardware in the XT1095 and XT1097 is identical between all models/variations. The firmware is what is different between them. Motorola calls the true "pure" version the XT1095, all of the carrier branded models are the XT1097. Each of the carrier branded models has unique programming for the country, provider etc. The sim lock and bootloader lock are selected by the provider and then Motorola programs the phones to match what they want(well the bootloader lock is handled by a master server but the providers still determine if it will be allowed or not).
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That is not true, as I have a brazilian XT1097 bought directly from Motorola and it has no carrier brand or bloatware.
As far as I know, the difference between the Brazilian XT1097 "bought directly from Motorola" and the XT1095 "Pure Edition" are the 4G bands it uses, as both have unlockable bootloaders.
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That is not true, as I have a brazilian XT1097 bought directly from Motorola and it has no carrier brand or bloatware.
As far as I know, the difference between the Brazilian XT1097 "bought directly from Motorola" and the XT1095 "Pure Edition" are the 4G bands it uses, as both have unlockable bootloaders.
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I didn't say they had to have carrier bloatware or branding. In your case it is an XT1097 because it has still been customized for your country - custom modem files to enable only the bands needed in your country. The hardware is still the same.
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Okay so I am confused... I have a Telus XT1097, There is a xt1097 sold in the US as well as XT1095 (PE from motomaker) Mexico and Brazil also have XT1097 both have been updated OTA. In the US everyone but AT&T have been updated, Canada has yet to see an update but what is the difference between all these phones? Is it sim lock (Telus) or sim lock and boot loader lock (also Telus but unlock able) It would seem that other than region, they should all be equal no?
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Do you have sources of the Mexican or Brazilian people with testimonial of it? I have a xt1097 MX and didn't get the OTA, got from motomaker, I purified it and got the update instantly
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Do you have sources of the Mexican or Brazilian people with testimonial of it? I have a xt1097 MX and didn't get the OTA, got from motomaker, I purified it and got the update instantly
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Mine is the Brazilian XT1097 and I got my OTA update quite on time.
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The hardware in the XT1095 and XT1097 is identical between all models/variations. The firmware is what is different between them. Motorola calls the true "pure" version the XT1095, all of the carrier branded models are the XT1097. Each of the carrier branded models has unique programming for the country, provider etc. The sim lock and bootloader lock are selected by the provider and then Motorola programs the phones to match what they want(well the bootloader lock is handled by a master server but the providers still determine if it will be allowed or not).
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Surely the modem hardware differs between the various models. I think there must be at least 4 different variations.
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Surely the modem hardware differs between the various models. I think there must be at least 4 different variations.
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The other models have different hardware(such as the XT1092) but the XT1095 and XT1097's are identical with only different modem firmware to enable/disable bands/protocols.
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The other models have different hardware(such as the XT1092) but the XT1095 and XT1097's are identical with only different modem firmware to enable/disable bands/protocols.
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Thanks for the information. I am in Canada (on Telus) so that means that I am able to buy the pure edition direct from Motorola.com/us (I have an american PO Box) and will be able to take full advantage of TELUS LTE as long as I flash telus radio?
BMelz said:
Thanks for the information. I am in Canada (on Telus) so that means that I am able to buy the pure edition direct from Motorola.com/us (I have an american PO Box) and will be able to take full advantage of TELUS LTE as long as I flash telus radio?
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You won't be able to flash the telus radio and don't need to, the stock radio/modem will work just fine with Telus LTE across the country. I also replied on HF.
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Do you have sources of the Mexican or Brazilian people with testimonial of it? I have a xt1097 MX and didn't get the OTA, got from motomaker, I purified it and got the update instantly
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Mexican, bought from Motorola. XT1097. OTA right away after I opened the box for the first time.
I am looking for a replacement for the front camera of my XT1095 but I only find front cameras for the XT1092. Is there a way to tell whether they are compatible?
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I am looking for a replacement for the front camera of my XT1095 but I only find front cameras for the XT1092. Is there a way to tell whether they are compatible?
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They say it is compatible
Hello All,
I'm considering getting a Nexus 6 on Verizon, as my company is moving away from ATT. My understanding is that the Nexus 6 in the Google Play Store and direct from Verizon are physically identical phones, since the GP version has worked with Verizon since launch (just Verizon wouldn't activate it). I know that Verizon has made several modifications to the Nexus 6 that they are shipping, like they usually do with Nexus phone (Thinking back to the Galaxy Nexus fiasco), but they were very minor. Specifically, they added in their changes to the build.prop for tethering to be blocked without a subscription.
Do any of you know, if I get one, if I can just flash the stock factory images from Google and get OTA updates from Google with all of the tethering functionality and such unlocked by default? Is the build.prop modification the only difference?
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Hello All,
I'm considering getting a Nexus 6 on Verizon, as my company is moving away from ATT. My understanding is that the Nexus 6 in the Google Play Store and direct from Verizon are physically identical phones, since the GP version has worked with Verizon since launch (just Verizon wouldn't activate it). I know that Verizon has made several modifications to the Nexus 6 that they are shipping, like they usually do with Nexus phone (Thinking back to the Galaxy Nexus fiasco), but they were very minor. Specifically, they added in their changes to the build.prop for tethering to be blocked without a subscription.
Do any of you know, if I get one, if I can just flash the stock factory images from Google and get OTA updates from Google with all of the tethering functionality and such unlocked by default? Is the build.prop modification the only difference?
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Build.prop isn't different. The devices are identical. The advantages/differences of the VZW N6 versus every other at two fold:
1) VZW device IMEI is "whitelisted" on Verizon. No others are. This means that if you buy from anywhere else, you are going to have to fool Verizon (several ways to do this). They won't give you a SIM. And this, in turn, means that you will not get your BYOD discount on EDGE.
2) VZW version ships with LMY47E (which includes 98R radio). There is no OTA for this. But the factory image can be downloaded from Google and fastboot flashed.
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Build.prop isn't different. The devices are identical. The advantages/differences of the VZW N6 versus every other at two fold:
1) VZW device IMEI is "whitelisted" on Verizon. No others are. This means that if you buy from anywhere else, you are going to have to fool Verizon (several ways to do this). They won't give you a SIM. And this, in turn, means that you will not get your BYOD discount on EDGE.
2) VZW version ships with LMY47M (which includes 98R radio). There is no OTA for this. But the factory image can be downloaded from Google and fastboot flashed.
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I thought VZW shipped with lmy47e, lmy47m was t-mobile
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I thought VZW shipped with lmy47e, lmy47m was t-mobile
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My bad. You are correct, it's E.
cam30era said:
Build.prop isn't different. The devices are identical. The advantages/differences of the VZW N6 versus every other at two fold:
1) VZW device IMEI is "whitelisted" on Verizon. No others are. This means that if you buy from anywhere else, you are going to have to fool Verizon (several ways to do this). They won't give you a SIM. And this, in turn, means that you will not get your BYOD discount on EDGE.
2) VZW version ships with LMY47E (which includes 98R radio). There is no OTA for this. But the factory image can be downloaded from Google and fastboot flashed.
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I'm not asking whether I can use a Google Play phone on Verizon. I'm asking if I can take a Verizon Nexus 6 and flash it to the Google Play image and have it function the same as a GP phone on Verizon.
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I'm not asking whether I can use a Google Play phone on Verizon. I'm asking if I can take a Verizon Nexus 6 and flash it to the Google Play image and have it function the same as a GP phone on Verizon.
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There is no "Google Play" edition phone. You can buy a Nexus 6 from the Google Play store, but it's not a special edition. It's the same phone you can buy from Motorola, Amazon, Best Buy, etc. Verizon whitelists their IMEI as I've noted above. There are four factory images for 5.1, LMY47D, LMY47E, LMY47M, and LMY47I. You can flash any on these on any Nexus 6.
And, you're welcome.
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I'm not asking whether I can use a Google Play phone on Verizon. I'm asking if I can take a Verizon Nexus 6 and flash it to the Google Play image and have it function the same as a GP phone on Verizon.
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its the same software. when you put in the verizon sim and boot the first time, is when it installs verizons apps. if you boot the first time without the sim catd, it wont install verizons apps.
If you plan on using VZW's Advanced Calling 1.0 you have to run version LMY47E.
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If you plan on using VZW's Advanced Calling 1.0 you have to run version LMY47E.
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Is that their XLTE based calling functionality they've been going on about?
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There is no "Google Play" edition phone. You can buy a Nexus 6 from the Google Play store, but it's not a special edition. It's the same phone you can buy from Motorola, Amazon, Best Buy, etc. Verizon whitelists their IMEI as I've noted above. There are four factory images for 5.1, LMY47D, LMY47E, LMY47M, and LMY47I. You can flash any on these on any Nexus 6.
And, you're welcome.
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Gotcha. Do you know which image versions are for what? I appreciate all of the info.
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Is that their XLTE based calling functionality they've been going on about?
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This is according to Verizon...
From the Verizon Website said:
Advanced Calling 1.0 is a first generation suite of services enabled by VoLTE (Voice over LTE) technology.
VoLTE is a new technology platform that delivers voice calls over the 4G LTE network instead of the traditional voice network.
The benefits of Advanced Calling 1.0 include:
- HD Voice
- 1-way or 2-way video calls* (including support for video calls over Wi-Fi)
- 6-way conference calls
- Simultaneous voice and 4G LTE data**
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Gotcha. Do you know which image versions are for what? I appreciate all of the info.
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Google has not provided any official definitions, but it's generally accepted here (Not hard and fast rules, though) that:
LMY47D is for AT&T and Sprint
LMY47E is for Verizon
LMY47M is for T-Mobile
LMY47I is for international (but a lot of US users use it, myself included).
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Google has not provided any official definitions, but it's generally accepted here (Not hard and fast rules, though) that:
LMY47D is for AT&T and Sprint
LMY47E is for Verizon
LMY47M is for T-Mobile
LMY47I is for international (but a lot of US users use it, myself included).
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LMY47M is not on Factory Images for Nexus Devices but the other 3 are.
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LMY47M is not on Factory Images for Nexus Devices but the other 3 are.
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While there is no factory image available, LMY47M was rolled out via OTA for T-Mobile users. Go here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/t-mobile-rolling-lmy47m-5-1-t3059371
Everything I read says that there are only 2 variants of the Nexus 6 - US and international, but then why do I see different ROMs per carrier? Can any update (not ROM) be flashed to an existing ROM ( I doubt this) - for example:
5.1.1 is rolling out. The TMO update that is available takes LMY47M to LYZ28E . LMY47M is not listed on the Google Dev site. Also, android sites show LMY47Z will bring 5.1.1 to Sprint (in a few days) - again no 5.1.1 variants are listed on Google dev site yet.
I have a Verizon branded 6 (dont ask why, but that is what i have) and it shipped with LMY47I.
So will all these 5.1.1 variants be posted? I would have thought that the latest version (highest number) would be best, but the Sprint line seems to be taking a different path.
Can anyone with more Nexus knowledge enlighten a Nexus noob? I am using this device on AT&T - if I put a Tmo SIM in, will i be on the TMO update train? Currently I am running without a SIM and using the Moto MAXX as my daily driver... I love the Moto Display better then the Google ambient display.
There are only 2 hardware versions, however some carriers are approving their own updates.. They actually seem to be based on what sim card you have in.
However, like you mentioned, updates look for a specific version to be installed on top of.
The carrier versions don't seem to come as factory images
you dont see any roms, per carrier, on any nexus device. open your eyes, read the rom ops.
also, this first update is only for the M 5.1 build to update to the new E build. other otas will f
follow in the coming weeks. and google will eventually post it to their factory image site.
rootSU said:
There are only 2 hardware versions, however some carriers are approving their own updates.. They actually seem to be based on what sim card you have in.
However, like you mentioned, updates look for a specific version to be installed on top of.
The carrier versions don't seem to come as factory images
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So LMY47I isn`t a carrier specific build but for all unbranded devices?
rootSU said:
There are only 2 hardware versions, however some carriers are approving their own updates.. They actually seem to be based on what sim card you have in.
However, like you mentioned, updates look for a specific version to be installed on top of.
The carrier versions don't seem to come as factory images
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I wonder how the phone would behave for users switching between a traditional CDMA and GSM carrier then... If you pull out your T-mo SIM and put in a Sprint SIM?
Looking forward to the day when there is a common technology like LTE...... in the US at least. when software specific to a carrier is not needed or wanted.
Thanks all for the replies.
gee2012 said:
So LMY47I isn`t a carrier specific build but for all unbranded devices?
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Yes, the "I" and "D" builds were both universal. "E" was the version that shipped on Verizon bought models and "M" (no factory image) was a T-Mobile OTA. But all builds and radios will work on any N6. I was running "I" on Sprint with 95r radio in the USA.
gee2012 said:
So LMY47I isn`t a carrier specific build but for all unbranded devices?
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I don't know which builds are carrier specific.. But the original TMO update applied to unbranded stock if you had a TMO connection.
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I wonder how the phone would behave for users switching between a traditional CDMA and GSM carrier then... If you pull out your T-mo SIM and put in a Sprint SIM?
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OTA looks for a specific build to update on top of.. If you update to TMO build, no unbranded OTA or other carrier OTA will be looking for your build because its TMO specific.
alphadog00 said:
Looking forward to the day when there is a common technology like LTE...... in the US at least. when software specific to a carrier is not needed or wanted.
Thanks all for the replies.
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The original TMO build didn't have anything specific in it.. The latest ones I think may allow wifi calling.. Verizon I think needed something to allow VoLTE with data simultaneously.
Ultimately, you can flash any stock image on any nexus 6 and it will work. With those 2 carriers, you may miss some functionality though.