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[Q] Mexico Nextel XT1053

Someone has this version? I couldn't find its specs anywhere. Which frequency bands does it support? Which SW can be flashed on it?

that is the same version the tmobile and gsm dev edition are....

RorixRebel said:
that is the same version the tmobile and gsm dev edition are....
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Are you 100% sure? Do you have one? Can you please send me the link to specs?

i have the Moto X Dev GSM Edition and it is the same model you described in the OP XT1053

amarguli said:
Someone has this version? I couldn't find its specs anywhere. Which frequency bands does it support? Which SW can be flashed on it?
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i bought a south american XT1053 on ebay assuming i could unlock the bootloader. when i got it, it had a nextel sim card ready to be installed. got an at&t one from my carrier and it's on LTE but motorola does not allow unlocking the bootloader. back on ebay it goes...
while i have it i'm happy to look into the bands, though i'd imagine it's the same as the t-mobile xt1053 and the gsm dev edition.

Very strange. According to motorola site all Latin America models have unlockable bootloader. Can you please check supported bands?

amarguli said:
Very strange. According to motorola site all Latin America models have unlockable bootloader. Can you please check supported bands?
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How do I check supported bands? All I can find in Settings is that I seem to currently be on LTE band 13.
Yeah, that page might imply all of Latin America can unlock their bootloaders but I certainly can't. Got my OEM unlock code via fastboot, and the unlock site says my device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking. The box it came in clearly says XT1053. The label is in spanish. The SIM card says Nextel. In settings it shows the System version is 139.7.30.ghost_row.NII.en.MX. I think NII is basically Nextel (NII also shows up the motorola site as the carrier for the device it sees I have), a carrier in Mexico.

jnichols959 said:
How do I check supported bands?
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There is sometimes a sticker on the box with this information. Or check in manual

jnichols959 said:
Yeah, that page might imply all of Latin America can unlock their bootloaders but I certainly can't. Got my OEM unlock code via fastboot, and the unlock site says my device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking.
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Thank you for warning. I just won it on ebay, but didn't pay for it yet, I will try to cancel the order.

amarguli said:
Thank you for warning. I just won it on ebay, but didn't pay for it yet, I will try to cancel the order.
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Maybe my situation is a fluke. Maybe something funky with this device but it sure looks like a regular Mexico Nextel device. The box, it's contents and the device all point to a carrier unlocked Mexico Nextel Moto X. Works fine on AT&T LTE but since I can't unlock the bootloader, the only benefit to me is the lack of carrier branding. FWIW I got mine on ebay from http://www.ebay.com/usr/marisolmachado and he was a great seller. Exactly as described, quick shipping, responsive to all of my questions. Just can't unlock the bootloader (which I didn't ask them about).

Does anybody else have this version?

amarguli said:
Does anybody else have this version?
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I have, just bought it this week and was also unable to unlock the bootloader. I had to root with pwnmymoto and supersu... I guess we're on the same boat trying to wait for Motorola owning up or someone creating a bootstrap

jnichols959 said:
Maybe my situation is a fluke. Maybe something funky with this device but it sure looks like a regular Mexico Nextel device. The box, it's contents and the device all point to a carrier unlocked Mexico Nextel Moto X. Works fine on AT&T LTE but since I can't unlock the bootloader, the only benefit to me is the lack of carrier branding. FWIW I got mine on ebay from http://www.ebay.com/usr/marisolmachado and he was a great seller. Exactly as described, quick shipping, responsive to all of my questions. Just can't unlock the bootloader (which I didn't ask them about).
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Whoa! I just bought the same phone from the same seller! I checked to see his previous auction and it was yours!
I wonder if mine is the same as yours. My system version is 139.7.30.ghost_row.NII.en.MX
No idea what that means. Sure as heck hope we can unlock the bootloader on these. Yeah, he was a great seller, I got mine in two days.
-Collin-

This seller also sells Nextel model. Be aware

Just wanted to add that I just checked and mine is not bootloader unlockable either. I have the same Nextel version as the previous poster. This is very unfortunate and now I question whether we will see the camera update. Or when. Darn, had high hopes for this one.
-Collin-

Just a thought...I tried unlocking the bootloader many times and the motorola site told me I could not...after searching, someone here said that you can't even have spaces in the unlock code...so be very sure that you paste all the numbers and to not leave spaces after them as I did and unlocked fine. BTW I tried like 3 times before and the 4th time I didn't paste the numbers, I just did it manually. Hope that helps.

yadspi said:
Just a thought...I tried unlocking the bootloader many times and the motorola site told me I could not...after searching, someone here said that you can't even have spaces in the unlock code...so be very sure that you paste all the numbers and to not leave spaces after them as I did and unlocked fine. BTW I tried like 3 times before and the 4th time I didn't paste the numbers, I just did it manually. Hope that helps.
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What is your "System version" in Settings, About phone?

I also have this model and can't unlock bootloader :crying::crying::crying::crying:

tuespazio said:
I also have this model and can't unlock bootloader :crying::crying::crying::crying:
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Would you mind telling me what the system version shows in yours?
-Collin-

CollinFX45 said:
Would you mind telling me what the system version shows in yours?
-Collin-
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The version is 139.7.30.ghost_row.NII.en.MX

[Q] exactly which versions can have bootloaders unlocked?

I found an XT1053 on eBay with a spanish user manual. Bought it assuming the bootloader would be unlockable on the motorola site but I was wrong. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215 lists the supported devices but "Latin America" doesn't get too specific.
Anyone know how we can determine which devices can be bootloader unlocked? I'd hate to go through this again. Maybe I should have just spent the extra $100 for a t-mobile version... I sure do like the lack of carrier branding on this device.

A better way to answer would be:
All but Verizon and AT&T.
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1ManWolfePack said:
A better way to answer would be:
All but Verizon and AT&T.
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
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Sadly, it's not that simple. This is not an AT&T (XT1058) or Verizon (XT1060) but an XT1053. I believe it's a Nextel Moto X. It has a spanish manual, defaulted to spanish when setting it up, has an unused SIM card that says Nextel.
It was not able to be bootloader unlocked on the motorola site.

jnichols959 said:
Sadly, it's not that simple. This is not an AT&T (XT1058) or Verizon (XT1060) but an XT1053. I believe it's a Nextel Moto X. It has a spanish manual, defaulted to spanish when setting it up, has an unused SIM card that says Nextel.
It was not able to be bootloader unlocked on the motorola site.
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just FYI - the T-Mobile one is unbranded. its basically a 16gb dev edition, same model xt1053.

mohlsen8 said:
just FYI - the T-Mobile one is unbranded. its basically a 16gb dev edition.
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Cool. I thought I saw it with a T-Mobile logo on the back somewhere online but I could certainly be mistaken. There are no carrier apps installed on the T-Mobile version?
I think I'll just resell this one and buy the tmo or dev edition new straight from Motorola. Don't want to mess with eBay over and over trying to get one whose bootloader can be unlocked. I thought it was "not AT&T or Verizon" too but now I see that's not the case and it may just be a north american-centric view of the situation...
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jnichols959 said:
Cool. I thought I saw it with a T-Mobile logo on the back somewhere online but I could certainly be mistaken. There are no carrier apps installed on the T-Mobile version?
I think I'll just resell this one and buy the tmo or dev edition new straight from Motorola. Don't want to mess with eBay over and over trying to get one whose bootloader can be unlocked. I thought it was "not AT&T or Verizon" too but now I see that's not the case and it may just be a north american-centric view of the situation...
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double check, but I'm 99% sure. they weren't even selling it in stores or on their own website as far as I know. no physical branding or software I'm pretty sure.

[Q] Which Moto X's receive updates from Motorola?

I'm looking to buy a used Moto X, and am trying to figure out which Moto X's receive updates from Motorola and not a carrier. I need a GSM phone and will be using a TMobile or AT&T MVNO in the US. I don't trust the carriers to continue pushing out Motorola's updates, so I'd rather just get them from Motorola directly.
My understanding is that the new dev versions and the retail, full-priced versions from Motorola will get updates. How do I identify those on the secondary market? Is it as simple as - if the back doesn't have a carrier logo, it gets updates from Motorola? Should I only be looking for an XT1053 and not an XT1058?
Looked in the FAQs and searched, but couldn't find an answer.
Thanks!

I could be wrong, but I don't think any of them get the update OTA straight from motorola. Even the dev and unlocked GSM's roms are labeled as T-Mobile retail. However, if you have one of those devices and an unlocked bootloader, you can download the system images straight from moto's website and easily install the updates yourself. So either version works in your case. The only difference is that you lose your warranty if you don't have a dev edition.
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That Ain't Falco!!! said:
I could be wrong, but I don't think any of them get the update OTA straight from motorola. Even the dev and unlocked GSM's roms are labeled as T-Mobile retail. However, if you have one of those devices and an unlocked bootloader, you can download the system images straight from moto's website and easily install the updates yourself. So either version works in your case. The only difference is that you lose your warranty if you don't have a dev edition.
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Thanks for the answer. So, theoretically, it wouldn't matter which device I got. Good to know. Thanks!

511pf said:
I'm looking to buy a used Moto X, and am trying to figure out which Moto X's receive updates from Motorola and not a carrier. I need a GSM phone and will be using a TMobile or AT&T MVNO in the US. I don't trust the carriers to continue pushing out Motorola's updates, so I'd rather just get them from Motorola directly.
My understanding is that the new dev versions and the retail, full-priced versions from Motorola will get updates. How do I identify those on the secondary market? Is it as simple as - if the back doesn't have a carrier logo, it gets updates from Motorola? Should I only be looking for an XT1053 and not an XT1058?
Looked in the FAQs and searched, but couldn't find an answer.
Thanks!
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If you want to be able to use your phone on multiple carriers, definitely buy the XT1053.
The XT1053 comes bootloader-unlockable and sim-unlocked. If you buy the XT1058 AT&T variant, the bootloader cannot be unlocked (unless you are lucky enough to get a code from the china middleman), and the phones are SIM-Locked to AT&T (unusable on T-Mobile). Some have reported success getting a SIM-Unlock code from online sellers, but others have reported that they tried all of the online sellers and none of the unlock codes work.
If you want a phone that will 100% be usable on any GSM carrier, buy the XT1053.
All variants should [eventually] receive the updates.

Don't know about XT1053 but I got the XT1052 and it came with unlock-able bootloader too, and of course all GSM SIM cards are working.

511pf said:
I need a GSM phone and will be using a TMobile or AT&T MVNO in the US.
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In addition to what That Ain't Falco!!! said..
The ATT XT1058 doesn't support HSPA/HSPA+ on AWS(1700/2100mhz). When T-Mobile first launched their HSPA/HSPA+ network that is the frequency they used. While they are working to upgrade and re-farm their 1900Mhz spectrum to HSPA/HSPA+, in areas where they haven't yet completed that, the XT1058 would only get EDGE when using it on T-Mobile
While the GSM Unlocked XT1053 is sim unlocked out of the box and bootloader unlockable, unlocking the bootloader does void the warranty. The Dev Edition XT1053 can't be customized (comes as 32gig, black face, woven white back, silver accents and says Dev Edition on the back), but unlocking the bootloader does NOT void the warranty. But in reality, the hardware "inside" is exactly the same, and they use the same roms/updates.
If you want to root, its easiest/best if you can unlock the bootloader.

Great answers, guys. Thanks a ton for taking the time. I'm definitely going to look for the XT1053.

SIM unlock for XT1053

The only thread I see is for the Sprint version. Is there a thread for the XT1053? I am using Consumer Cellular (uses the ATT network.)
Will be traveling to Canada next month and would like to have the phone available if the cost is reasonable (Consumer Cellular advises to leave the phone off when out of the country due to high roaming costs, $1-$3/minute). Are the Ebay providers typically reliable?

lmacmil said:
The only thread I see is for the Sprint version. Is there a thread for the XT1053? I am using Consumer Cellular (uses the ATT network.)
Will be traveling to Canada next month and would like to have the phone available if the cost is reasonable (Consumer Cellular advises to leave the phone off when out of the country due to high roaming costs, $1-$3/minute). Are the Ebay providers typically reliable?
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??? The XT1053 **IS** the GSM unlocked version. It is already SIM-Unlocked....
The XT1056 is the Sprint variant.
If you do indeed have an XT1053, you need not worry as you are already sim-unlocked....

samwathegreat said:
??? The XT1053 **IS** the GSM unlocked version. It is already SIM-Unlocked....
If you do indeed have an XT1053, you need not worry as you are already sim-unlocked....
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The Android System Info app say it is the XT1053. Is there anything in the "about phone" section that will confirm this?

lmacmil said:
The Android System Info app say it is the XT1053. Is there anything in the "about phone" section that will confirm this?
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The firmware version should say "retail" in it. If so, you are definitely sim-unlocked already.

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The firmware version should say "retail" in it. If so, you are definitely sim-unlocked already.
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The system version is 212.44.21.ghost_row.Retail.en.US so I guess I'm all set then, right? Thanks.

lmacmil said:
The Android System Info app say it is the XT1053. Is there anything in the "about phone" section that will confirm this?
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Is there any "fine print" at the bottom on the back? If so, that would say the model number. As @samwathegreat said, every XT1053 we've seen so far has been SIM UNlocked right out of the box.
And if your carrier is using ATT's network, are you sure its not an XT1058? If its an XT1058 then, yes its likely sim locked. In that case either your carrier would need to give you the SIM unlock code (aka network unlock), or you'd have to buy it from a 3rd party seller.
(The XT1058 supports one or two LTE frequencies that ATT uses which the XT1053 doesn't).
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The system version is 212.44.21.ghost_row.Retail.en.US so I guess I'm all set then, right? Thanks.
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You typed that while I was typing my post...
Yes, that is the 4.4.3 rom found on the XT1053. So if that is the XT1053, it should be SIM unlocked.

KidJoe said:
Is there any "fine print" at the bottom on the back? If so, that would say the model number.
And if your carrier is using ATT's network, are you sure its not an XT1058?
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It does say xt1053 on the back. It actually came from Motorola with a T-mobile SIM in it but we activated it initially with an AT&T MVNO.

lmacmil said:
It does say xt1053 on the back. It actually came from Motorola with a T-mobile SIM in it but we activated it initially with an AT&T MVNO.
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That explains the XT1053 and the ROM on it. Yes, that is SIM unlocked out of the box, and you can unlock the bootloader if you want via Moto's site (but it voids the warranty)

KidJoe said:
That explains the XT1053 and the ROM on it. Yes, that is SIM unlocked out of the box, and you can unlock the bootloader if you want via Moto's site (but it voids the warranty)
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It's actually my wife's phone and I know better than to mess with it!

difference between the xt1050 and the xt1060?

what is the difference between the xt1050 and the xt 1060, i see on ebay theres a listing for motherboards rot $29 model # xt1050 listed as a generic cdma model, phonearena has no listing on the xt1050, did google search and found link that suggest its not compatible in the us. it it possible to install the xt1050 board in device for sell in the us as a cdma device?

Don't bet on it!
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I can partially answer that. the xt1050 is a device sold by 'regional carriers'. for example, I have an xt1050 but which was sold by alltel. there are other xt1050 models sold by Inland Cellular, Illinois Valley Cellular etc. Basically the xt1050 was the model sold by very small cellular companies. I can't vouch for other models besides the one i have but my alltel xt1050 was able to be unlocked officially via moto website. I was also able to install twrp on it.
But it gets more complex. There are apparently different firmware versions for each different xt1050 model. see this page here https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/94927/p/30,6720,8696 (under ACG Regional Carriers). Now what, if anything, is different between the different firmware numbers... I've no idea.
Finally, according to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56803257&postcount=60 the xt1050 actually shares the same fcc number as the xt1060. This is pretty much all the info I've gathered.

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I can partially answer that. the xt1050 is a device sold by 'regional carriers'. for example, I have an xt1050 but which was sold by alltel. there are other xt1050 models sold by Inland Cellular, Illinois Valley Cellular etc. Basically the xt1050 was the model sold by very small cellular companies. I can't vouch for other models besides the one i have but my alltel xt1050 was able to be unlocked officially via moto website. I was also able to install twrp on it.
But it gets more complex. There are apparently different firmware versions for each different xt1050 model. see this page here https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/94927/p/30,6720,8696 (under ACG Regional Carriers). Now what, if anything, is different between the different firmware numbers... I've no idea.
Finally, according to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56803257&postcount=60 the xt1050 actually shares the same fcc number as the xt1060. This is pretty much all the info I've gathered.
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So what does it exactly meaan?
I am using v 1060 verizon outside the US.
Working well, haven't rooted yet and been waiting for Android L.

stevedat said:
So what does it exactly meaan?
I am using v 1060 verizon outside the US.
Working well, haven't rooted yet and been waiting for Android L.
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Can someone, say whether xt1060 is easier to root and cheaper than the former?
The 1050 is an AT&T, with 1060 being Verizon, which is more likely to cause less problemsin EU over the course of its use?

snejkatamie007 said:
Can someone, say whether xt1060 is easier to root and cheaper than the former?
The 1050 is an AT&T, with 1060 being Verizon, which is more likely to cause less problemsin EU over the course of its use?
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I have found that XT1060 means Verizon carrier - read it from a thread on somewhere of the 4rum.
I am owning that one using out of the US and everyting works fine for me now.
Rooting is just like playing around with the Rom there is nothing else.
A custom rom lacks Moto features, such as: active display, spotty, etc - a big díappointment!
Android L is pretty good with material design, but that is the only thing.

stevedat said:
I have found that XT1060 means Verizon carrier - read it from a thread on somewhere of the 4rum.
I am owning that one using out of the US and everyting works fine for me now.
Rooting is just like playing around with the Rom there is nothing else.
A custom rom lacks Moto features, such as: active display, spotty, etc - a big díappointment!
Android L is pretty good with material design, but that is the only thing.
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I am finding it hard to believe that Verizon phones are working worries free outwith the US with European. if I recall correctly Europe being Gsm network where Verizon phones are the other one. I really don't know, I will be going for AT&T over Verizon despite it's lack of customizability. Very disappointing ****!

snejkatamie007 said:
I am finding it hard to believe that Verizon phones are working worries free outwith the US with European. if I recall correctly Europe being Gsm network where Verizon phones are the other one. I really don't know, I will be going for AT&T over Verizon despite it's lack of customizability. Very disappointing ****!
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I got this vrz moto x 2013 by exchanging with my sony phone. I am an asian buddy. In the back of my phone there is a logo with Verizon carrier.
I am running 4.4.4 and being happy with it. Moto's features are cool stuffs.
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What country are you living in? thanks
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snejkatamie007 said:
I am finding it hard to believe that Verizon phones are working worries free outwith the US with European. if I recall correctly Europe being Gsm network where Verizon phones are the other one. I really don't know, I will be going for AT&T over Verizon despite it's lack of customizability. Very disappointing ****!
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All Verizon LTE phones come SIM unlocked, meaning that they work fine on GSM carriers. The only problem that might show up is that LTE bands will likely not match, meaning the device is limited to HSPA+.
As for which is easier to root, the Verizon one will not be easy to root unless it's a developer edition. The XT1050 might be easily rootable, but there may be trouble using it on GSM carriers. It is not the ATT version of the X, rather it is the version used for smaller regional US carriers. The ATT version of the X is the XT1058 (also the version number for the Rogers Canada model). If I remember right, there are a few threads of people having problems SIM unlocking the XT1050 to use with carriers other than US Cellular (but you might need to search that info out).

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All Verizon LTE phones come SIM unlocked, meaning that they work fine on GSM carriers. The only problem that might show up is that LTE bands will likely not match, meaning the device is limited to HSPA+.
As for which is easier to root, the Verizon one will not be easy to root unless it's a developer edition. The XT1050 might be easily rootable, but there may be trouble using it on GSM carriers. It is not the ATT version of the X, rather it is the version used for smaller regional US carriers. The ATT version of the X is the XT1058 (also the version number for the Rogers Canada model). If I remember right, there are a few threads of people having problems SIM unlocking the XT1050 to use with carriers other than US Cellular (but you might need to search that info out).
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Yes, I am referring to x1058, respectivelly At&T, I have no knowledge over a 1060, as the supplier only does 1058 and the Verizon one. With that being said, and by you marking Verizon bootloader unlockable, I guess I have no choice but to go with the AT&T and get a sunrise right after. ****e!
ps/ The dealer does infact says the Verizon one comes sim unlocked, but still the lack of customizability renders it rather unattractive in my mind!

snejkatamie007 said:
Yes, I am referring to x1058, respectivelly At&T, I have no knowledge over a 1060, as the supplier only does 1058 and the Verizon one. With that being said, and by you marking Verizon bootloader unlockable, I guess I have no choice but to go with the AT&T and get a sunrise right after. ****e!
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Sorry if I wasn't clear. The XT1060 is the Verizon Moto X model number, the XT1050 is not. I believe the XT1050, which is used for regional carriers, has CDMA capabilities like the Verizon model (again, the XT1060). If it's still on 4.4.2, the Verizon model can be unlocked via Sunshine as well, but your best bet for compatibility is the AT&T 1058, since it has the widest range of LTE bands. Good luck!

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Sorry if I wasn't clear. The XT1060 is the Verizon Moto X model number, the XT1050 is not. I believe the XT1050, which is used for regional carriers, has CDMA capabilities like the Verizon model (again, the XT1060). If it's still on 4.4.2, the Verizon model can be unlocked via Sunshine as well, but your best bet for compatibility is the AT&T 1058, since it has the widest range of LTE bands. Good luck!
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Yes , that's in line with what I was thinking of. I will go with the at&t and hope for the best!
thanks-

Vietnam
snejkatamie007 said:
What country are you living in? thanks
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Vietnam

So can i use xt1050 on gsm carriers in US and outside US? thanks