[Q] Is the 16Gb enough? - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I guess that's a returning question.. but in relation to the Moto X 2014:
- how much space is available on the 16Gb version of the new X in it's stock state?
- all of you having the 16Gb version already, how do you deal with the situation? Is it enough, it is horribly short on space or something in between?
thanks a lot..
ps. dang, can't edit the title.. sorry about the phrasing.

The stock delivered moto x 2014 has about 9.5GB of free space. (XT1092)

pbg_87 said:
The stock delivered moto x 2014 has about 9.5GB of free space. (XT1092)
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Weird, my XT1092 arrived with 10.06 GB available.
It's pretty cramped, I take a lot of pictures and videos.
I got an 64GB OTG USB stick, where I move some of my files periodically.
When I decide to root, that's where I'll put my backups and firmwares.
I use Microsofts OneDrive to auto-upload photos and videos just to make sure
Because I use Windows 8.1 and OneDrive is integrated really nicely, I get access to my stuff as if it's a folder when I get home.
If anyone knows of a gallery app that allows you to browse online files as if they were on-device, that would be great.
My old HTC One had that built into the gallery, was pretty neat.

Sorry i've forgotten to mention that i used the migrate app to sync my call protocols and messages + Whatsapp Backup.
Could be that 10.06 minus 09.50 = 506 Megabytes make the difference

Did the same thing like the guy above me. Got an USB OTG stick and thats fine for music and media files etc.. I dont mind the lack of storage, but a bit more is nice.

Coming from a 32GB HTC One, it was a scary step back (the 32GB Moto X is not available in Europe), but I think it might be enough.
I have a generous data plan and I use Google Play Music so I stream everything from the cloud. Conversely, all my pictures are instantly uploaded to Dropbox so I can periodically delete most of them from my phone. This basically eliminates the need for extensive media storage. What's left is apps and caching. I don't play a lot of games on my phone anymore so 16GB goes a long way.

I came from a Galaxy S4 with 16 gb storage and 32 gb sd card. Truth be told, the only thing I used the sd card for was music and backups. I now have the 16 gb version motox and with the apps less music I still have over 7gb free. So unless I get real stupid and download a lot of apps I don't see this being a problem. It is kind of like having a big hard drive in your computer, if you don't need to delete files you probably never will but that doesn't mean you actually use them. I keep all my music on dropbox and just stream it.... wifi is free.

I don't want to hijack the thread but does an OTG USB stick mount without root?

Robrecht said:
Coming from a 32GB HTC One, it was a scary step back (the 32GB Moto X is not available in Europe), but I think it might be enough.
I have a generous data plan and I use Google Play Music so I stream everything from the cloud. Conversely, all my pictures are instantly uploaded to Dropbox so I can periodically delete most of them from my phone. This basically eliminates the need for extensive media storage. What's left is apps and caching. I don't play a lot of games on my phone anymore so 16GB goes a long way.
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annoyingly the 32GB model is available in Germany, UK and France. I ordered mine through phonehouse.de

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10.06 GB. I'm a heavy user, however all of my music and photos are stored in the cloud (spotify and google+)

I never purchase aything but 16gb versions (unless of course the smallest is 32gb). I have never had an issue with space. I don't store music/movies/absurd amounts of pictures or apps on my devices. I have computers and the cloud for that and never saw the fun in seeing how many useless apps I could install.
If your the type that likes to keep your life collections of pictures, or loves keeping all your videos of your kids/pets/etc on your phone, or you are one of the people that think you need to have your music library on your phone, then do not get the 16gb.

godutch said:
annoyingly the 32GB model is available in Germany, UK and France. I ordered mine through phonehouse.de
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Not gonna lie, part of me wishes I'd known that before I ordered mine. :silly: But I still think with everything in the cloud nowadays my 16GB will be enough.

G4 Man2 said:
I don't want to hijack the thread but does an OTG USB stick mount without root?
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Yup, works without you needing to do anything.
You have to go to settings and dismount manually, otherwise it'll complain when putting it back in and I believe it runs a checkdisk command, as it takes way longer.
There's no drop down menu, go to settings and storage, and it's there in the very bottom.

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What do you keep on your storage card?

I'm thinking of getting an 8GB Micro SDHC card and I'm curious what everyone else has loaded theirs up with. My real intention is a few programs, and for GPS maps as they tend to be quite large.
What do you all have on yours?
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I'm thinking of getting an 8GB Micro SDHC card and I'm curious what everyone else has loaded theirs up with. My real intention is a few programs, and for GPS maps as they tend to be quite large.
What do you all have on yours?
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Everything. Maps, music, apps, roms, radios. Like I said, everything you can think of. Check ebay on the SD cards. Got my 8GB from ebay for $45 and it is a Sandisk. Not a knockoff.
My 4GB is full of music (mostly) and photos from the camera. I like to keep apps in the internal memory, there's plenty of it.
Thinking about upgrading to an 8GB just for some TomTom map space, not sure if it's worth jumping straight to a 16GB yet?
EDIT - just checked on the 16GB, and I guess not! Doesn't even seem to be available yet..
The 16GBs are rumored for June sometime I believe.
I totally forgot about storing my photos on the storage card, as for music I don't have a head set as the Tilt's didn't ship with one (i dont think) so I dont have a good way to really listen yet.
I wanna say I've heard of people storing wikipedia on their storage card as well. So I didn't know if anyone did this or something similar, or just other random things really.
i'm using two 2GB micro cards, one is completely full of music and the other i use to keep my cabs on so that when i flash i only have to reinstall them straight from the phone and that saves time, i have a few radios and a movie(transformers) but the movie doesn't play very well as we all know
mainly porn..................jk
I have a 4gb card with TomTom, 500 mp3s, and a few movies or tv shows. I put osme random installs on there but they never take up much compared to Tomtom and movies
maps, mp3s, movies, pictures
endless amounts of porn
hahaha jk
I'm sure theres a limit to the ammount of porn you can get on an 8gb card...
On my I store tomtom maps, music, pictures, a film or two and some random school work. It acts as a second USB Drive only people stare in wonder at my awesomeness with it!
what is this porn? is it a program?
jk
Music,movies and porn...and i'm not kidding!!!!!!
P1Tater said:
Everything. Maps, music, apps, roms, radios. Like I said, everything you can think of. Check ebay on the SD cards. Got my 8GB from ebay for $45 and it is a Sandisk. Not a knockoff.
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Would like to see how you find a genuine SD cards on ebay. Cuz I know that 70% of memory cards on ebay are fake. Since the technology to make the card is not rocket science, they look 90% real. I bought 2 cards from ebay ( memory stick pro duo ) for my psp and phone but only the 2nd one is real. I am not that stupid to be fooled by fishy price , but only recognized that I got a bad card after 3 months of use and already gave him a + feed back.
Would you recommend the seller that you bought from ?
I have a trick to get a real card with low price but dont recommend it since its hardly legal
As for storage, I am not a big fan of music and movie so I only need 2gb. Half of it is for Tom Tom map , the rest are some songs, pics, documents and apps. Oh yea, few porn wouldnt kill the thing lol.
Loaded 8G.....
smoka said:
Music,movies and porn...and i'm not kidding!!!!!!
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+1 and the occasional installed program....
mchapman007 said:
+1 and the occasional installed program....
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+2 and pics.
Those who got porn, should be commended for their honesty, seriously. I don't have any saved because there are sites where u can watch videos for free. I have a 8GB card loaded in Kaiser with 5.5 GBs remaining, lol. I have documents, music, videos, loads of camera pics, apps, and games. I may have to start saving porn (videos) to take up some space, lol. The 12 GB card (I hear) is currently available, 16 GB card will be available in June, and 24 GB card will be available by December or January 2009. Insane, lol. I won't be surprised if the 32 GB card sufaces in by late 2009.
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Those who got porn, should be commended for their honesty, seriously. I don't have any saved because there are sites where u can watch videos for free. I have a 8GB card loaded in Kaiser with 5.5 GBs remaining, lol. I have documents, music, videos, loads of camera pics, apps, and games. I may have to start saving porn (videos) to take up some space, lol. The 12 GB card (I hear) is currently available, 16 GB card will be available in June, and 24 GB card will be available by December or January 2009. Insane, lol. I won't be surprised if the 32 GB card sufaces in by late 2009.
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I'm a sinner then....
aberz said:
Would like to see how you find a genuine SD cards on ebay. Cuz I know that 70% of memory cards on ebay are fake. Since the technology to make the card is not rocket science, they look 90% real. I bought 2 cards from ebay ( memory stick pro duo ) for my psp and phone but only the 2nd one is real. I am not that stupid to be fooled by fishy price , but only recognized that I got a bad card after 3 months of use and already gave him a + feed back.
Would you recommend the seller that you bought from ?
I have a trick to get a real card with low price but dont recommend it since its hardly legal
As for storage, I am not a big fan of music and movie so I only need 2gb. Half of it is for Tom Tom map , the rest are some songs, pics, documents and apps. Oh yea, few porn wouldnt kill the thing lol.
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Yes, I would recommend him. I know its real. At least in comparison to my OEM 4gb card under a magnifying glass everything is identical. I even went online and registered the serial to verify.
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Music,movies and porn...and i'm not kidding!!!!!!
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My 8GB SDHC has destinator map, music files, video files, some office docs, photos and some backup for my apps
Porn here too...............................can't wait for the 32gb card

storage options

hey everyone! I've been looking to buy a nexus 7 but the lack of expandable memory is making it hard to justify buying and the fact that the biggest option is 16GB of internal storage (13GB available).
Now I'm still going to buy it just because i cant resist but does anyone think there is a way I could actually replace the internal SD card with my own larger one? i ask this because I have seen in a few phones that the internal storage is nothing more than a regular SD card.
anyways it would be great if anyone has any ideas or if you really think cloud storage is just fine let me know
Being totally unqualified to comment (but that has never stopped me),
you would be silly buying a Nexus 7 with the idea of replacing the internal SD card yourself.
Maybe a teardown will reveal a standard SD card socket - but I highly doubt it.
Sockets cost a lot more than a surface mount device, and you really don't want to go there. Even if you are able to replace the SD card, the boot rom is likely to have an idea as to the size and format of the SD - and you can't change that.
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hey everyone! I've been looking to buy a nexus 7 but the lack of expandable memory is making it hard to justify buying and the fact that the biggest option is 16GB of internal storage (13GB available).
Now I'm still going to buy it just because i cant resist but does anyone think there is a way I could actually replace the internal SD card with my own larger one? i ask this because I have seen in a few phones that the internal storage is nothing more than a regular SD card.
anyways it would be great if anyone has any ideas or if you really think cloud storage is just fine let me know
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Not many people can answer your question now since not many have them. We will have to wait for IFixIt to break one down. There are stories on people replacing the sdcard chip with a larger one via soldering but we won't know for sure until someone opens one up.
At it's current infant stage, best storage option is to use an OTG cable & sdcard.
Also, need to wait to see if dev's are able to improve anything.
Can't comment on cloud storage because you need to tell us what type of user you are: gamer, video watcher, etc....
I'm a gamer & the best way for me to to backup Android folder & remove game files that I'm currently not playing. When I do play that game, I transfer back the game files to Android folder.
Basically you have to manage your storage space. Also need to factor in storage for nandroids.
I'll say 16gb is enough if you manage your space: backup files & transferring them back when needed, etc.
Transcend storejet cloud 64gb wireless ssd hard drive is $99.00 on amazon. Small enough for put in your pocket, 5-6 hrs battery. I can put link here, cause i'm newbie lol.
or
Kingston Wi-Drive: short battery, it's exspensive.
or
Maxell AirStash flash drive: good battery, but it's very exspensive.
^ Following the previous posters answers, I would recommend a Seagate GoFlex Satellite & mod it to 1TB. credit goes to the folks in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740395&page=4
>anyways it would be great if anyone has any ideas or if you really think cloud storage is just fine let me know
Cloud only works for multimedia. It doesn't work for games/apps that take up space. Games (non-casual) can get pretty big. Ditto for some apps, eg Google Maps offline caching. One solution,
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>anyways it would be great if anyone has any ideas or if you really think cloud storage is just fine let me know
Cloud only works for multimedia. It doesn't work for games/apps that take up space. Games (non-casual) can get pretty big. Ditto for some apps, eg Google Maps offline caching. One solution,
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pm me the name of that magical micro USB card reader plz!

[Q] Anyone working on a Custom ROM with Apps2SD enabled?

Anyone? :crying:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo.../read-forum-section-rules-guidelines-t2479324
I second that link Iruwen posted.
To tell you the truth, no. Nobody is going to do that because it's absurd.
Why is it absurd to enable a Standard Android Feature in a custom Rom that was disabled at Sony????
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Why is it absurd to enable a Standard Android Feature in a custom Rom that was disabled at Sony????
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No Sir, it's exactly the other way 'round. It has actually been bought back by Sony, but only to select models that suffer from low internal memory.
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What????? When and why did this happened? I am back from iOS after 4 years only because of App2SD
Please tell me, what apps are you using that 16gb is not enough?
WhatsApp, Facebook, Navigation, Medicalsoftware, Games. After 2 Days only 2 GByte left....... This is enough for a Tablet but not for my daily needs.
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What????? When and why did this happened? I am back from iOS after 4 years only because of App2SD
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Well, what to say?! Not everything got better in newer versions, unfortunately. Google implemented a lot restrictions with regards to external SDcards.
However, I can't seem to spot any really consuming Apps in your Screenshot, except maybe the Games. Possibly helpful to post a shot of settings -> memory to sort it out.
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ill be honest, i just want the ability to modify my sd card while on my phone. I often save large files and i store my music collection on my sd card along with my books and school work. Any way to write/modify any files on my sd card without root? Who at google thought it was a good idea to lock its users out of their own sd cards? Anyway ill just wait for a way to unlock the bootloader without losing drm keys and then eventually im sure a custom rom will come out. Until then ill just have to use my computer to modify my sd card. NBD.
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ill be honest, i just want the ability to modify my sd card while on my phone. I often save large files and i store my music collection on my sd card along with my books and school work. Any way to write/modify any files on my sd card without root? Who at google thought it was a good idea to lock its users out of their own sd cards? Anyway ill just wait for a way to unlock the bootloader without losing drm keys and then eventually im sure a custom rom will come out. Until then ill just have to use my computer to modify my sd card. NBD.
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Not sure if you're aware but...
settings-storage-transfer data to sd card
slyr114 said:
Any way to write/modify any files on my sd card without root?
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Any app can write to its own folder on the SD card. Without root, no app except system apps can write to the whole SD card for security reasons. This will be changed with Android L (introduction of a new permission).
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Not sure if you're aware but...
settings-storage-transfer data to sd card
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That's not what I meant, I use solid explorer but can't actually modify anything on the card just read. As the guy below you said only system apps can transfer stuff or it has to go into the android folder.
@OP:
I'm 90% sure you don't need a lot of those apps. Try and see if you really need **** and uninstall it if the launch count is below a certain threshold (back in Gingerbread, I set mine to once per month and I ended up uninstalling almost half my apps). Or try finding a lighter app that does the same thing.
Only once in my entire life was I able to fill up a 16GB device with apps only (on a 16GB Nexus 7), and even those were just games (of 100MB+ in size).
My point -- 16GB is more than enough for the majority of users, there is no reason for a developer to waste time doing edits to please the minority you are part of.
Also your OP is ridiculous. And the post isn't in the correct Forum subsection.
You're German ffs, show that! :ID
Just saw this thread and had to reply, because it seems like good news for everybody who owns an sd card
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...5-0-shows-google-still-loves-sd-cards-1271803
According to this google is loosening the sd card restrictions on the new android, at least as it regards storage of third party apps on the sd card.
Just wanted to share this to spread the hopefully true news, maybe an app2sd will also be implemented.
As I said three posts before
This thread absolutely does not belong in the Original Development subforum.
You could root and get xposed running which could fix your problem.
Trow away navigator, it's rubbish. Can use sygic and put the roadmaps on the sd. Saved me 4gb internal memory.

[Q] Only 23GB "Total Space" on 32GB Nexus 6 right out of the box?

Anyone else notice that right out of the box you only have 23GB of usable storage on the 32GB variant?
I know that you'll never get the full storage amount due to the ROM taking up space. However, on both my Nexus 4 and Nexus 5, with 16GB total space, I had at least 12GB available right out of the box. So I'm used to having ~4GB of unusable space. But 9GB of space taken right off the bat for a pure Android device with no bloatware does not seem right to me.
Anyone know why this might be?
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Starting from lollipop, the phone uses art run time. Art takes up more space in the internal storage, it's one of the tradeoffs when compared to dalvik.
And no you can't change back to dalvik on lollipop.
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Good to know. Thanks!
I guess this is just one more reason many should opt for the 64GB.
Now that I'm on a computer, I can elaborate my point in more detail,
Android 4.4 KitKat, at least on the Nexus 5, includes a new runtime call “Android runtime”, ART. Though it’s not a very creative name, it is pretty creative in what it does. Unlike JIT, which must compile every app whenever it’s loaded, ART works on a concept called ahead-of-time (AOT) compilation. With ART, when you download and install an app it automatically pre-compiles. This takes up more space on your device and takes longer to initially install when compared to Dalvik. However, apps launch quicker and are arguably faster when run using ART rather than Dalvik. What’s more, since less time is required to run apps, your processor doesn’t get worked as hard and your battery life may benefit as a result.
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Do note that the above is from Kit Kat's ART which can be different from Lollipop's ART (improved and more finalized)
This isn't much difference to the 32gb Nexus 5 which has 26gb.
That's weird -did you get a carrier model vs an unlocked one from the playstore?
People were posting 25GB free last week for the 32GB....
I have 54 GB free "total space" on mine.
I got the the 32GB
Pilz said:
I have 54 GB free "total space" on mine.
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You have a 64gb. System overhead seems to be about the same as OP's.
OP, were any carrier apps loaded on during setup? If so, remove and get that space back.
RW-1 said:
OP, were any carrier apps loaded on during setup? If so, remove and get that space back.
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For this phone, only AT&T gets carrier apps pre-loaded. To be honest, a lot of the Google Applications are bloatware.
Bloatware examples are: Fit, Earth, Books, Movies, Google+, etc.
zephiK said:
For this phone, only AT&T gets carrier apps pre-loaded. To be honest, a lot of the Google Applications are bloatware.
Bloatware examples are: Fit, Earth, Books, Movies, Google+, etc.
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I agree with you, but to the OP's issue, he may regain some of his space by removing them, it's been said that you can remove those said carrier apps. As to the others, they may be removable, or one may need root if they are loaded just in /system. Thing is the OP hasn't stated if he got a GP or moto phone, or one from a carrier to begin with.
Initially I was disappointed with the seemingly low space, but you have to keep in mind that a good chunk of that 32GB is lost to formatting (I'd estimate around 10%-15%). The rest is used by the operating system. So 24GB of free space is very plausible on a 32GB device.
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You have a 64gb. System overhead seems to be about the same as OP's.
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Correct I was posting that as a comparison seeing that mine has about the same amount of space taken up.

Case with sd card slot?

Are there any cases with a micro sd card slot for the Note 5. I know Incipio and Mophie has them for the S6.
why do you need a case with a Micro SD Card slot? The note 5 doers not use a memory card
gmfirebird said:
why do you need a case with a Micro SD Card slot? The note 5 doers not use a memory card
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It would act like a OTG and you can upload or download files from it.
gmfirebird said:
why do you need a case with a Micro SD Card slot? The note 5 doers not use a memory card
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That's the whole point. The case provides a missing feature.
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s6-case-doubles-battery-and-adds-sd-card-support
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That's the whole point. The case provides a missing feature.
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s6-case-doubles-battery-and-adds-sd-card-support
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That was never made for the Note 5.. :crying:
ok I misunderstood what you were looking for. Looking at the one in the link it looks pretty cool. I myself have the 64gb model and have never come close to filling it up ( even though I have a bunch of movies \ringtones\ Pictures\etc... so I dont miss the sd card but I do also make use of cloud storage to make up for it. I have accounts with Google drive (1tb of storage that I get with school tuition) and Microsoft One Drive (also 1tb) and any files I need I just download them as I need them
gmfirebird said:
ok I misunderstood what you were looking for. Looking at the one in the link it looks pretty cool. I myself have the 64gb model and have never come close to filling it up ( even though I have a bunch of movies \ringtones\ Pictures\etc... so I dont miss the sd card but I do also make use of cloud storage to make up for it. I have accounts with Google drive (1tb of storage that I get with school tuition) and Microsoft One Drive (also 1tb) and any files I need I just download them as I need them
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Alas, that d/l and u/l is got to be on WiFi, I also have the 64GB version and if I loaded my music on it, I could fill it up quick. But with limited data plans (Mines 6GB a month) using data to listen to music is a bad idea.. Movies use up even more.. I use to have a OTG reader, but lost it... It's a shame the N5 was short lived and more couldn't be done for it. Now that the N7 is kaput, the N5 is as close of a Note phone you will get to it..
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Alas, that d/l and u/l is got to be on WiFi, I also have the 64GB version and if I loaded my music on it, I could fill it up quick. But with limited data plans (Mines 6GB a month) using data to listen to music is a bad idea.. Movies use up even more.. I use to have a OTG reader, but lost it... It's a shame the N5 was short lived and more couldn't be done for it. Now that the N7 is kaput, the N5 is as close of a Note phone you will get to it..
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I dont have alot of songs or ringtones on my N5 (about 100 total combined ) but I do have about 35 movies and tv shows stored on it that I rotate on and off periodically. I own them on digital downloads or DVD and then upload them to my laptop where I convert them to AVI or MKV files (higher compression rates and less storage space a 2 hour movie is about 700mb) so I can store more in less space, this way I always have them and dont need to download them when ever I want to
I can run my own radio station with the music I have stored. Only about 5 or 6 movies. I don't load up unless I go on a trip. Then I delete them when I get home. Still would have liked a extended battery case with the sd card slot built in... :good:
What I've found to be useful for media consumption on the go is using a micro usb drive. I have a 64GB that I slap on when I go to the gym and listen to my music.
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Sailor Gerry said:
What I've found to be useful for media consumption on the go is using a micro usb drive. I have a 64GB that I slap on when I go to the gym and listen to my music.
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I've had them and lost it. But if I'm going to play a radio or music player, I will need my Powerbank. LoL
Did find this https://i-blades.com/products/galaxy-note-5-battery-case-battery-life-memory
I-blades.com, has a smart case for the note 5. The case itself gives you the ability to monitor air quality, and add on other sensors in the future. I bought the case with memory blade, the blade has 32GB built in storage, a micro sd slot, and extra battery! The blades are inter changeable with t he other cases they make for other models so you could use one blade with say an iPhone, annd you're Notre 5. They're also supposed to be stackable so you could add two or more memory blades on top of each other! I preordered the case and blade, but they're not set to ship until the end of the month!

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