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hey everyone! I've been looking to buy a nexus 7 but the lack of expandable memory is making it hard to justify buying and the fact that the biggest option is 16GB of internal storage (13GB available).
Now I'm still going to buy it just because i cant resist but does anyone think there is a way I could actually replace the internal SD card with my own larger one? i ask this because I have seen in a few phones that the internal storage is nothing more than a regular SD card.
anyways it would be great if anyone has any ideas or if you really think cloud storage is just fine let me know

Being totally unqualified to comment (but that has never stopped me),
you would be silly buying a Nexus 7 with the idea of replacing the internal SD card yourself.
Maybe a teardown will reveal a standard SD card socket - but I highly doubt it.
Sockets cost a lot more than a surface mount device, and you really don't want to go there. Even if you are able to replace the SD card, the boot rom is likely to have an idea as to the size and format of the SD - and you can't change that.

tomdroid3 said:
hey everyone! I've been looking to buy a nexus 7 but the lack of expandable memory is making it hard to justify buying and the fact that the biggest option is 16GB of internal storage (13GB available).
Now I'm still going to buy it just because i cant resist but does anyone think there is a way I could actually replace the internal SD card with my own larger one? i ask this because I have seen in a few phones that the internal storage is nothing more than a regular SD card.
anyways it would be great if anyone has any ideas or if you really think cloud storage is just fine let me know
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Not many people can answer your question now since not many have them. We will have to wait for IFixIt to break one down. There are stories on people replacing the sdcard chip with a larger one via soldering but we won't know for sure until someone opens one up.
At it's current infant stage, best storage option is to use an OTG cable & sdcard.
Also, need to wait to see if dev's are able to improve anything.
Can't comment on cloud storage because you need to tell us what type of user you are: gamer, video watcher, etc....
I'm a gamer & the best way for me to to backup Android folder & remove game files that I'm currently not playing. When I do play that game, I transfer back the game files to Android folder.
Basically you have to manage your storage space. Also need to factor in storage for nandroids.
I'll say 16gb is enough if you manage your space: backup files & transferring them back when needed, etc.

Transcend storejet cloud 64gb wireless ssd hard drive is $99.00 on amazon. Small enough for put in your pocket, 5-6 hrs battery. I can put link here, cause i'm newbie lol.
or
Kingston Wi-Drive: short battery, it's exspensive.
or
Maxell AirStash flash drive: good battery, but it's very exspensive.

^ Following the previous posters answers, I would recommend a Seagate GoFlex Satellite & mod it to 1TB. credit goes to the folks in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740395&page=4

>anyways it would be great if anyone has any ideas or if you really think cloud storage is just fine let me know
Cloud only works for multimedia. It doesn't work for games/apps that take up space. Games (non-casual) can get pretty big. Ditto for some apps, eg Google Maps offline caching. One solution,
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>anyways it would be great if anyone has any ideas or if you really think cloud storage is just fine let me know
Cloud only works for multimedia. It doesn't work for games/apps that take up space. Games (non-casual) can get pretty big. Ditto for some apps, eg Google Maps offline caching. One solution,
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pm me the name of that magical micro USB card reader plz!

Top of the line SanDisk Extreme Pro® microSDHC™ UHS-I

SanDisk Extreme Pro.
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-Featuring Class 10 for "3D" and Full HD† video (1080p)
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Does anyone have it?

If you don't plan to transfer content to that card with a usb-3 connection and a reader connected directly to the computer, it doesn't have sense to buy it.
The note it is limited to about 15mb transfer rate, so you will be throwing money out of the window.

kersh said:
If you don't plan to transfer content to that card with a usb-3 connection and a reader connected directly to the computer, it doesn't have sense to buy it.
The note it is limited to about 15mb transfer rate, so you will be throwing money out of the window.
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Do you have a reference for that info? I plan to pickup a note 2 upon US release and was debating on waiting for the new Samsung high speed micro sd cards or going with Sandisk Ultra.
Daniel

You really won't see much of a difference between the Gold and Ultra cards. The important aspect of those cards are the read speeds and it's absolutely overboard for a phone. Save yourself some money and just get the Ultra w/30mb read and you'll be set. No need for anything faster.
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Yeah, just spend that money on the 64GB version of the Note II. I bet the flash chips they use in the note are just as fast, without the bottleneck of MicroSD connections.

yumcax said:
Yeah, just spend that money on the 64GB version of the Note II. I bet the flash chips they use in the note are just as fast, without the bottleneck of MicroSD connections.
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I agree that the internal memory would be superior. The problem is that it is very unlikely 32GB and 64GB models will be available upon US release or even within a few months.
Daniel

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agreed. The Ultra card (30mb/sec) is the absolute fastest card you will need for a phone. You won't even take full advantage of its speed but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than the Gold.
The only thing that will take advantage of write speeds when using the phone is how fast you take pictures and transfer files to the card from a computer. THAT'S IT. And technically even with that you will be limited to around the same speeds as the average USB 2.0 speed which is normally between 10mb-25mb/sec.
Don't waste your money.

The problem is many people just see whats stated on the package, and don't realize that to obtain the stated speed, you need the unit to support UHS I, and at present no phones support it, so the max speed for the card is read 25mb/s and write 24mb/s, which is the standard for micro sdhc and micro sdxc noted as the class 2, 4, 6 and 10.

Got the 64gb uhs I class 10 works fine write 11MB read 38MB second.

Where can I get a good deal on the Ultra 32 or 64. I know they can be much cheaper online instead of in stores.
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rydehard86 said:
Where can I get a good deal on the Ultra 32 or 64. I know they can be much cheaper online instead of in stores.
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I payed 59.99 a few days ago on eBay for a new 64gb ultra class 10.
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Wherever you buy from make sure its an authorized dealer, if not no warranty and you are likely to get a counterfeit which won't have the specified performance. I like buying from amazon, but make sure amazon.com is the seller.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-micro...350601208&sr=1-1&keywords=micro+sd+ultra+64gb
Daniel

At the time of this posting amazon.com was sold out of the sandisk 64gb ultra. Ordered one from newegg(authorized reseller) for $62.

Excellent deal here on the 64GB
Here's a good deal on the 64GB Ultra on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSDXC-Memory-Adapter-SDSDQU-064G-AFFP-A/dp/B009QZH6JS/ref=lh_ni_t

kersh said:
If you don't plan to transfer content to that card with a usb-3 connection and a reader connected directly to the computer, it doesn't have sense to buy it.
The note it is limited to about 15mb transfer rate, so you will be throwing money out of the window.
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you can use Class 10 cards in Note as the support reffered to me

Kaiser Chief said:
Got the 64gb uhs I class 10 works fine write 11MB read 38MB second.
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Yesterday I bought this micro sd, and had a great problem. On next Monday I will send to the shop.

Your problem may be the fact that it isn't formatted correctly out of the box for your phone.
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I ordered the 64 gb one that is linked above. Anyone have problems with the phone formatting it when inserted? I am running a custom ROM, and have seen a few posts on the forums with people having trouble getting it recognized and formatted correctly. Was hoping someone knew a good way to format it ahead of time in preparation of installing into the phone. Like a third party pc tool for example maybe?
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Gack69 said:
I ordered the 64 gb one that is linked above. Anyone have problems with the phone formatting it when inserted? I am running a custom ROM, and have seen a few posts on the forums with people having trouble getting it recognized and formatted correctly. Was hoping someone knew a good way to format it ahead of time in preparation of installing into the phone. Like a third party pc tool for example maybe?
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Your problem is the custom rom. Same thing happened to me. I wasn't able to format it until I went stock. To avoid having to go to stock, format it with a PC.
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How much memory are you using????

Since everyone complaining about the nexus 4 only offering 16gb as its max.
Name your current phone,
If your using a micro sd card in conjunction with your internal memory how much is it????
How much space you have available in your internal and external (if your using an SD card)
And in a few words what are you using your memory for (remember you do not have go into details just the bare minimum)
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S 2
SD card: 8GB
Internal: 3.92
External: 4.57
I have about 700mb worth of apps, app data...etc, 1.17gb worth of pictures and 3.80gb of music and SD is an complete copy of internal just in case of anything

On my Xperia Play where most of my data is (cuz my backflip sucks):
/data: 111MB/380MB used
/system: 144MB/312MB used
SD card: 11.2GB/29.47GB used
SDext: 210MB/228MB used

I am running duel boot on my s3. Have about 3 rom zips on here. All my pictures and about 170 apps and still 6gb left.
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S3
External SD 8gb (0 left)
Internal 16gb (4gb left)
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Xperia Play
32gb memory card. Literally jam packed full now. To be fair, most of that is junk...

Xperia arc 16GB external SD Card, 10GB Free, 2GB worth of Pics & Vids, rest are mixed stuff
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S3
External SD 64gb (29 left)
Internal 16gb (8gb left)
But I am uploading all my songs to google music + gonna use more cloud service. Data won't be problem cause I am getting T-mobile unlimited but little bit worried about the battery life when 4G will be on most of the time.

32GB SD Card - Full
However because I'm in the UK and we're getting Play Music I will be using GiffGaffs £10 (Soon to be £12) Goody Bag for unlimited data and using their (Googles) Cloud services. Play Music, Play Movies, YouTube etc This will free up about 20GBs of Video and Music.

Galaxy s3
16gb internal memory (500mb left)
32gb micro sd card (4gb left)
But as google music is coming to the UK soon and I have truly unlimited internet, 9/10gb of my music on my sd card will be streamed from google music instead.

Inspire 4G
Internal 4 GB w/ 180 MB left.
SD Card 32 GB w/ 9GB left.
I love the Nexus 4 but the max storage being 16GB makes it impossible to use. Very disappointed in their decision to limit it, especially in 2012-2013. This is the digital age after all, and cloud storage will rape your wallet when you're phone bill comes in if your not always in range of WiFi
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HTC Evo 3D
Internal Storage:
873 MB/1.15 GB
Card:
6.76 GB/9.83 GB
it's a 16 GB card but partitioned for apps and such.
so yeah. plenty of space. 16 GB Nexus 4 should do just fine for me.

I've got 23 available on my GS2 with 16 internal and 32 card, so I'm using about 25GB.

I think a lot of complaints are coming from people new to the Nexus line. I had the same concerns when I switched from my Vibrant to the Nexus S two years ago which actually had less than 16GB because of the partitions with system/internal storage. Currently I have a 16GB Galaxy Nexus with about 1GB left. About 2GB are music files I want to have on the phone in case there are connection issues. Pictures and Video take up another 3GB and most of that stuff needs to be sorted through and moved onto my main pictures/videos folder on my computer. Games and other applications take up the lion's share of space on my phone.
It did take a little getting used to at first, but you can easilly manage on just 16. I've been doing it for two years now. A friend of mine was going off about it not having a SD slot and how that was bad, then he said he had a 16GB in his phone because the phone itself only had 500MB internal storage. I lol'd so hard.

System: 1.12g total 769 available
Completely BS "Internal Storage" 1.4g total, 450mb available
MicroSD card, 59.46g total (64g card formatted of course) 6.28g available.
So no, 16g doesn't cut it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139193
That's a 16g microsd card, for $10. And they sell it for $50.

I have 587MB free on my internal storage out of 8XXMB. I'm only using a little over 5GB on my SD card. I have pretty much migrated everything to the cloud so a 16GB Nexus 4 is perfect. I'd go with the 8GB version but that would cut it close.
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Cirkustanz said:
System: 1.12g total 769 available
Completely BS "Internal Storage" 1.4g total, 450mb available
MicroSD card, 59.46g total (64g card formatted of course) 6.28g available.
So no, 16g doesn't cut it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139193
That's a 16g microsd card, for $10. And they sell it for $50.
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Yeah, 16gb won't cut it for me either.
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I can guarantee that most people don't use 75% of what they have stored on their phones. I am using about 3gb for apps and I don't use most of them and never will. A bunch of Amazon apps of the day or games I don't ever play. If you just got organized you could make 16gb work and it would be well worth it.
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Phone: Desire Z
Internal: 479.3MB/1.1GB
SD Card: 6.6GB/14.4GB
Don't really know what's on my SD Card, but I know for a fact that I won't need more than the 8GB model. I don't really get the complaint for more storage space.
Want movies/tv shows? Store 2-3 at a time, it's not like you can watch them all at once.
Music? I have 40GB of music, and that's being conservative as I haven't retrieved all my songs from my old computer which would bring it to over 100GB. Short of a iPod Classic, I'm not carrying all my music anyways. Why not sync a few playlists/albums at a time, again you can't listen to them all the time.
Apps? How many apps do you really use? Same with games. Your phone can still fit a few large games and have space left. Although I have a Nexus 7 for games, so I have less to complain about.
All and all, 8GB is enough for me. I can see why people would rather opt for the 16GB, and I would have preferred a 32GB for myself, but really it seems like people are just searching for a reason not to buy this amazing phone.

[Q] Is the 16Gb enough?

I guess that's a returning question.. but in relation to the Moto X 2014:
- how much space is available on the 16Gb version of the new X in it's stock state?
- all of you having the 16Gb version already, how do you deal with the situation? Is it enough, it is horribly short on space or something in between?
thanks a lot..
ps. dang, can't edit the title.. sorry about the phrasing.

The stock delivered moto x 2014 has about 9.5GB of free space. (XT1092)

pbg_87 said:
The stock delivered moto x 2014 has about 9.5GB of free space. (XT1092)
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Weird, my XT1092 arrived with 10.06 GB available.
It's pretty cramped, I take a lot of pictures and videos.
I got an 64GB OTG USB stick, where I move some of my files periodically.
When I decide to root, that's where I'll put my backups and firmwares.
I use Microsofts OneDrive to auto-upload photos and videos just to make sure
Because I use Windows 8.1 and OneDrive is integrated really nicely, I get access to my stuff as if it's a folder when I get home.
If anyone knows of a gallery app that allows you to browse online files as if they were on-device, that would be great.
My old HTC One had that built into the gallery, was pretty neat.

Sorry i've forgotten to mention that i used the migrate app to sync my call protocols and messages + Whatsapp Backup.
Could be that 10.06 minus 09.50 = 506 Megabytes make the difference

Did the same thing like the guy above me. Got an USB OTG stick and thats fine for music and media files etc.. I dont mind the lack of storage, but a bit more is nice.

Coming from a 32GB HTC One, it was a scary step back (the 32GB Moto X is not available in Europe), but I think it might be enough.
I have a generous data plan and I use Google Play Music so I stream everything from the cloud. Conversely, all my pictures are instantly uploaded to Dropbox so I can periodically delete most of them from my phone. This basically eliminates the need for extensive media storage. What's left is apps and caching. I don't play a lot of games on my phone anymore so 16GB goes a long way.

I came from a Galaxy S4 with 16 gb storage and 32 gb sd card. Truth be told, the only thing I used the sd card for was music and backups. I now have the 16 gb version motox and with the apps less music I still have over 7gb free. So unless I get real stupid and download a lot of apps I don't see this being a problem. It is kind of like having a big hard drive in your computer, if you don't need to delete files you probably never will but that doesn't mean you actually use them. I keep all my music on dropbox and just stream it.... wifi is free.

I don't want to hijack the thread but does an OTG USB stick mount without root?

Robrecht said:
Coming from a 32GB HTC One, it was a scary step back (the 32GB Moto X is not available in Europe), but I think it might be enough.
I have a generous data plan and I use Google Play Music so I stream everything from the cloud. Conversely, all my pictures are instantly uploaded to Dropbox so I can periodically delete most of them from my phone. This basically eliminates the need for extensive media storage. What's left is apps and caching. I don't play a lot of games on my phone anymore so 16GB goes a long way.
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annoyingly the 32GB model is available in Germany, UK and France. I ordered mine through phonehouse.de

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10.06 GB. I'm a heavy user, however all of my music and photos are stored in the cloud (spotify and google+)

I never purchase aything but 16gb versions (unless of course the smallest is 32gb). I have never had an issue with space. I don't store music/movies/absurd amounts of pictures or apps on my devices. I have computers and the cloud for that and never saw the fun in seeing how many useless apps I could install.
If your the type that likes to keep your life collections of pictures, or loves keeping all your videos of your kids/pets/etc on your phone, or you are one of the people that think you need to have your music library on your phone, then do not get the 16gb.

godutch said:
annoyingly the 32GB model is available in Germany, UK and France. I ordered mine through phonehouse.de
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Not gonna lie, part of me wishes I'd known that before I ordered mine. :silly: But I still think with everything in the cloud nowadays my 16GB will be enough.

G4 Man2 said:
I don't want to hijack the thread but does an OTG USB stick mount without root?
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Yup, works without you needing to do anything.
You have to go to settings and dismount manually, otherwise it'll complain when putting it back in and I believe it runs a checkdisk command, as it takes way longer.
There's no drop down menu, go to settings and storage, and it's there in the very bottom.

Case with sd card slot?

Are there any cases with a micro sd card slot for the Note 5. I know Incipio and Mophie has them for the S6.

why do you need a case with a Micro SD Card slot? The note 5 doers not use a memory card

gmfirebird said:
why do you need a case with a Micro SD Card slot? The note 5 doers not use a memory card
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It would act like a OTG and you can upload or download files from it.

gmfirebird said:
why do you need a case with a Micro SD Card slot? The note 5 doers not use a memory card
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That's the whole point. The case provides a missing feature.
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s6-case-doubles-battery-and-adds-sd-card-support

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That's the whole point. The case provides a missing feature.
http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s6-case-doubles-battery-and-adds-sd-card-support
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That was never made for the Note 5.. :crying:

ok I misunderstood what you were looking for. Looking at the one in the link it looks pretty cool. I myself have the 64gb model and have never come close to filling it up ( even though I have a bunch of movies \ringtones\ Pictures\etc... so I dont miss the sd card but I do also make use of cloud storage to make up for it. I have accounts with Google drive (1tb of storage that I get with school tuition) and Microsoft One Drive (also 1tb) and any files I need I just download them as I need them

gmfirebird said:
ok I misunderstood what you were looking for. Looking at the one in the link it looks pretty cool. I myself have the 64gb model and have never come close to filling it up ( even though I have a bunch of movies \ringtones\ Pictures\etc... so I dont miss the sd card but I do also make use of cloud storage to make up for it. I have accounts with Google drive (1tb of storage that I get with school tuition) and Microsoft One Drive (also 1tb) and any files I need I just download them as I need them
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Alas, that d/l and u/l is got to be on WiFi, I also have the 64GB version and if I loaded my music on it, I could fill it up quick. But with limited data plans (Mines 6GB a month) using data to listen to music is a bad idea.. Movies use up even more.. I use to have a OTG reader, but lost it... It's a shame the N5 was short lived and more couldn't be done for it. Now that the N7 is kaput, the N5 is as close of a Note phone you will get to it..

Oditius said:
Alas, that d/l and u/l is got to be on WiFi, I also have the 64GB version and if I loaded my music on it, I could fill it up quick. But with limited data plans (Mines 6GB a month) using data to listen to music is a bad idea.. Movies use up even more.. I use to have a OTG reader, but lost it... It's a shame the N5 was short lived and more couldn't be done for it. Now that the N7 is kaput, the N5 is as close of a Note phone you will get to it..
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I dont have alot of songs or ringtones on my N5 (about 100 total combined ) but I do have about 35 movies and tv shows stored on it that I rotate on and off periodically. I own them on digital downloads or DVD and then upload them to my laptop where I convert them to AVI or MKV files (higher compression rates and less storage space a 2 hour movie is about 700mb) so I can store more in less space, this way I always have them and dont need to download them when ever I want to

I can run my own radio station with the music I have stored. Only about 5 or 6 movies. I don't load up unless I go on a trip. Then I delete them when I get home. Still would have liked a extended battery case with the sd card slot built in... :good:

What I've found to be useful for media consumption on the go is using a micro usb drive. I have a 64GB that I slap on when I go to the gym and listen to my music.
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Sailor Gerry said:
What I've found to be useful for media consumption on the go is using a micro usb drive. I have a 64GB that I slap on when I go to the gym and listen to my music.
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I've had them and lost it. But if I'm going to play a radio or music player, I will need my Powerbank. LoL

Did find this https://i-blades.com/products/galaxy-note-5-battery-case-battery-life-memory

I-blades.com, has a smart case for the note 5. The case itself gives you the ability to monitor air quality, and add on other sensors in the future. I bought the case with memory blade, the blade has 32GB built in storage, a micro sd slot, and extra battery! The blades are inter changeable with t he other cases they make for other models so you could use one blade with say an iPhone, annd you're Notre 5. They're also supposed to be stackable so you could add two or more memory blades on top of each other! I preordered the case and blade, but they're not set to ship until the end of the month!