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Everything I read says that there are only 2 variants of the Nexus 6 - US and international, but then why do I see different ROMs per carrier? Can any update (not ROM) be flashed to an existing ROM ( I doubt this) - for example:
5.1.1 is rolling out. The TMO update that is available takes LMY47M to LYZ28E . LMY47M is not listed on the Google Dev site. Also, android sites show LMY47Z will bring 5.1.1 to Sprint (in a few days) - again no 5.1.1 variants are listed on Google dev site yet.
I have a Verizon branded 6 (dont ask why, but that is what i have) and it shipped with LMY47I.
So will all these 5.1.1 variants be posted? I would have thought that the latest version (highest number) would be best, but the Sprint line seems to be taking a different path.
Can anyone with more Nexus knowledge enlighten a Nexus noob? I am using this device on AT&T - if I put a Tmo SIM in, will i be on the TMO update train? Currently I am running without a SIM and using the Moto MAXX as my daily driver... I love the Moto Display better then the Google ambient display.
There are only 2 hardware versions, however some carriers are approving their own updates.. They actually seem to be based on what sim card you have in.
However, like you mentioned, updates look for a specific version to be installed on top of.
The carrier versions don't seem to come as factory images
you dont see any roms, per carrier, on any nexus device. open your eyes, read the rom ops.
also, this first update is only for the M 5.1 build to update to the new E build. other otas will f
follow in the coming weeks. and google will eventually post it to their factory image site.
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There are only 2 hardware versions, however some carriers are approving their own updates.. They actually seem to be based on what sim card you have in.
However, like you mentioned, updates look for a specific version to be installed on top of.
The carrier versions don't seem to come as factory images
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So LMY47I isn`t a carrier specific build but for all unbranded devices?
rootSU said:
There are only 2 hardware versions, however some carriers are approving their own updates.. They actually seem to be based on what sim card you have in.
However, like you mentioned, updates look for a specific version to be installed on top of.
The carrier versions don't seem to come as factory images
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I wonder how the phone would behave for users switching between a traditional CDMA and GSM carrier then... If you pull out your T-mo SIM and put in a Sprint SIM?
Looking forward to the day when there is a common technology like LTE...... in the US at least. when software specific to a carrier is not needed or wanted.
Thanks all for the replies.
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So LMY47I isn`t a carrier specific build but for all unbranded devices?
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Yes, the "I" and "D" builds were both universal. "E" was the version that shipped on Verizon bought models and "M" (no factory image) was a T-Mobile OTA. But all builds and radios will work on any N6. I was running "I" on Sprint with 95r radio in the USA.
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So LMY47I isn`t a carrier specific build but for all unbranded devices?
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I don't know which builds are carrier specific.. But the original TMO update applied to unbranded stock if you had a TMO connection.
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I wonder how the phone would behave for users switching between a traditional CDMA and GSM carrier then... If you pull out your T-mo SIM and put in a Sprint SIM?
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OTA looks for a specific build to update on top of.. If you update to TMO build, no unbranded OTA or other carrier OTA will be looking for your build because its TMO specific.
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Looking forward to the day when there is a common technology like LTE...... in the US at least. when software specific to a carrier is not needed or wanted.
Thanks all for the replies.
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The original TMO build didn't have anything specific in it.. The latest ones I think may allow wifi calling.. Verizon I think needed something to allow VoLTE with data simultaneously.
Ultimately, you can flash any stock image on any nexus 6 and it will work. With those 2 carriers, you may miss some functionality though.
A while ago I visited the moto maker website, and bought the xt1095 t mobile pure edition. I am currently using it on a Canadian carrier named Fido. I still haven't receive the 5.1 update and I am getting anxious, since 5.0 runs fairly slowly on the moto x, and I really look forward to the speed boost offered by 5.1. But will there be a delay for updates because I am in Canada? And also a lot of people have got the 5.1 update already, is it still in a soak test process? Please let me know, I literally checks the update every hour lol.
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A while ago I visited the moto maker website, and bought the xt1095 t mobile pure edition. I am currently using it on a Canadian carrier named Fido. I still haven't receive the 5.1 update and I am getting anxious, since 5.0 runs fairly slowly on the moto x, and I really look forward to the speed boost offered by 5.1. But will there be a delay for updates because I am in Canada? And also a lot of people have got the 5.1 update already, is it still in a soak test process? Please let me know, I literally checks the update every hour lol.
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Still on a soak test the second one actually for our 1095..... Things have slowed down considerably.....
Sure wish google would have kept Motorola It could have been like Nokia and windows, rock solid Nexus like phones lol.
I got the update to 5.1.1 on my "generic" nexus 6 on Verizon the first day it came it out....I've seen others have had problems getting theirs to update, I didn't have to do anything to get it to update. Anyway, the battery life seems like total garbage compared to 5.1. I'm nearly 100% sure it's the radio that came with this update. Is anyone else on Verizon using the international Nexus 6 experiencing this problem? I would assume it would affect everyone on Verizon.
Verizon has not pushed the 5.1.1 update yet AFAIK. See the OTA updates thread, they are still waiting. What build number do you show (LM something)? Also do you really mean international version (xt1100) or do mean it's an XT1103 (north American) purchased from Google or moto?
I received an OTA from Verizon 2 weeks ago. I was on sort of a combination of E and I. The OTA came down, but I didnt apply it since I knew it would fail anyways and figured I would wait for the Full file to be made available on the Google Factory site. I got impatient this weekend and flashed E clean to see if it would get the OTA and nada, nothing, zilch. I even put the update file back into the cache folder and still nothing.
I still have the file if anyone wants to take a look.
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I received an OTA from Verizon 2 weeks ago. I was on sort of a combination of E and I. The OTA came down, but I didnt apply it since I knew it would fail anyways and figured I would wait for the Full file to be made available on the Google Factory site. I got impatient this weekend and flashed E clean to see if it would get the OTA and nada, nothing, zilch. I even put the update file back into the cache folder and still nothing.
I still have the file if anyone wants to take a look.
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Yes! Please post info about the OTA file with details about your carrier, what build you were on, etc in the OTA ref thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2906493
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stevexyz0 said:
Yes! Please post info about the OTA file with details about your carrier, what build you were on, etc in the OTA ref thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2906493
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will do in a few minutes...
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Verizon has not pushed the 5.1.1 update yet AFAIK. See the OTA updates thread, they are still waiting. What build number do you show (LM something)? Also do you really mean international version (xt1100) or do mean it's an XT1103 (north American) purchased from Google or moto?
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I meant the north American version, sorry. Build number LMY47Z was pushed to my phone the same day it was released. I have a Verizon sim but the phone was bought directly from Motorola. I'm just wondering if anyone else has had this pushed and if the radio sucks for them like it does for me.
Any way to edit the thread title to correct the version of the phone I have?
Ryno77 said:
I meant the north American version, sorry. Build number LMY47Z was pushed to my phone the same day it was released. I have a Verizon sim but the phone was bought directly from Motorola. I'm just wondering if anyone else has had this pushed and if the radio sucks for them like it does for me.
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If you are rooted, you can flash the 47D(98r which was released with the VZW Nexus). http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-modem-collection-t2969380
Thats what I did with my Moto purchased 64GB Nexus 6. I updated mine to 5.1.1 prior to putting in my VZW SIM then rolled back the radio.
UPDATE: I only had the 47Z radio installed for a couple of hrs. I could get VoLTE to work with it so I reverted back to the 47D radio and it worked instantly. So I really cant comment on the quality of the radio.
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I got the update to 5.1.1 on my "generic" nexus 6 on Verizon the first day it came it out....I've seen others have had problems getting theirs to update, I didn't have to do anything to get it to update. Anyway, the battery life seems like total garbage compared to 5.1. I'm nearly 100% sure it's the radio that came with this update. Is anyone else on Verizon using the international Nexus 6 experiencing this problem? I would assume it would affect everyone on Verizon.
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I got the XT1103 from Amazon and have a Verizon SIM -- I'm on 5.1.1 build number LMY47Z.
My battery life has been total garbage as well but I've noticed it's only when I have WiFi on. I've lost up to 30% of charge overnight when connected to WiFi (with or without Mobile Data turned on). Last night I left Mobile Data 'ON' and WiFi 'OFF' and I lost just 4%. The process 'Cell Standby' going rogue has been the reason for this battery drain and I've looked everywhere for a solution without much luck. A few people have reported that toggling VoLTE ON/OFF, turning it OFF and then rebooting has fixed the issue for them. I can't comment on that yet but will test it out when I get home this Thursday (I travel for work).
@mademan420, @Ryno77, @jaymattt
I was wondering if you guys could confirm your XT1103 UNLOCKED purchases were recent. Google Play Store seems to have the XT1103 for a good deal right now, but I'm concerned about activating on Verizon since Verizon is excluded from the Google support page:
Compatible with a variety of carriers, including those listed below. Availability and timing varies by carrier and retailer. Check with your carrier for details.
North America:
T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T, USC, Bell, Rogers, Telus, Telcel
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syserr said:
@mademan420, @Ryno77, @jaymattt
I was wondering if you guys could confirm your XT1103 UNLOCKED purchases were recent. Google Play Store seems to have the XT1103 for a good deal right now, but I'm concerned about activating on Verizon since Verizon is excluded from the Google support page:
Thanks!
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I purchased mine from Amazon two weeks back with same day delivery (which was free for some odd reason). I got the 64GB unlocked version (XT1103) for $150 off and an additional $120 off ($50 gift card + $70 gift card when you sign up for Amazon Rewards Credit Card).
I didn't have a nano-SIM so I went in to a local Verizon store and asked them for one. The rep assigned to my case said they couldn't do it for the Nexus 6 and I disagreed -- twice. The rep's supervisor was standing near by and he told the guy to try activating it and it worked without a hitch. I was in and out in 5 minutes.
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@mademan420, @Ryno77, @jaymattt
I was wondering if you guys could confirm your XT1103 UNLOCKED purchases were recent. Google Play Store seems to have the XT1103 for a good deal right now, but I'm concerned about activating on Verizon since Verizon is excluded from the Google support page:
Thanks!
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Ordered mine from directly from Moto on the 14th of June and received it on the 19th. I already had a nano SIM so I just popped it into the Nexus and away I went.
Found this thread following a search regarding terrible battery life.
Got my Nexus 6 just five days ago. Ordered it directly from Motorola, took all the OTA updates up to 5.1.1 (build number LMY47Z). Then I unlocked, rooted, and added some Xposed mods (not running a custom ROM). I just popped my VZW sim in and away I went. My battery life has been worse than terrible, but the idea that it could have something to do with being on Verizon never occurred to me. I'm actually contemplating returning the phone. I seriously can't get through the day with moderate usage without needing to charge around lunch time.
If anyone has some suggestions, I'm all ears.
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Found this thread following a search regarding terrible battery life.
Got my Nexus 6 just five days ago. Ordered it directly from Motorola, took all the OTA updates up to 5.1.1 (build number LMY47Z). Then I unlocked, rooted, and added some Xposed mods (not running a custom ROM). I just popped my VZW sim in and away I went. My battery life has been worse than terrible, but the idea that it could have something to do with being on Verizon never occurred to me. I'm actually contemplating returning the phone. I seriously can't get through the day with moderate usage without needing to charge around lunch time.
If anyone has some suggestions, I'm all ears.
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I'm on tmibile, and have wonderful battery life, not doing anything for battery except keeping my brightness down, and running oc'd at 3033mgz/35mhz. i see about 5.5-6h sot daily. BTW, this is what I wanted to share http://blog.laptopmag.com/tmobile-phones-longer-battery-life
Rodeojones said:
Found this thread following a search regarding terrible battery life.
Got my Nexus 6 just five days ago. Ordered it directly from Motorola, took all the OTA updates up to 5.1.1 (build number LMY47Z). Then I unlocked, rooted, and added some Xposed mods (not running a custom ROM). I just popped my VZW sim in and away I went. My battery life has been worse than terrible, but the idea that it could have something to do with being on Verizon never occurred to me. I'm actually contemplating returning the phone. I seriously can't get through the day with moderate usage without needing to charge around lunch time.
If anyone has some suggestions, I'm all ears.
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I'd try a few different things... Some sound dumb/obvious. Do some tests with Mobile Data off vs on. This could tell you for sure if it has anything to do with VZW or the radio firmware. The smoking gun would be if your battery drains very quickly with mobile data turned off. Also airplane mode on vs off. Then, Id reflash either the official firmware or some custom flavor ROM. Also, I'd revert modem firmware if none of that fixed anything. (I do not have this phone yet, so I'm assuming you get good control over which modem firmware you can install.)
Rodeojones said:
Found this thread following a search regarding terrible battery life.
Got my Nexus 6 just five days ago. Ordered it directly from Motorola, took all the OTA updates up to 5.1.1 (build number LMY47Z). Then I unlocked, rooted, and added some Xposed mods (not running a custom ROM). I just popped my VZW sim in and away I went. My battery life has been worse than terrible, but the idea that it could have something to do with being on Verizon never occurred to me. I'm actually contemplating returning the phone. I seriously can't get through the day with moderate usage without needing to charge around lunch time.
If anyone has some suggestions, I'm all ears.
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If you're rooted you might as well try the radio from 5.1.......either the verizon version or just the generic 5.1 radio. I don't remember having random battery issues like this when I was on 5.1. It seems like the phone is just having a hard time connecting to the network. If you do try another radio can you post back with results? I have not rooted or unlocked the bootloader but I'm getting close.
Flash it back to stock, go one step at a time.....slowly. I suspect an xposed module is eating it up.
Just ordered the International 6GB version this morning and I had a question about updates.
I've read that different versions can get their updates at different times., and that sometimes a particular version might be well behind the others. I'm wondering if I should flash the U.S. firmware when I get the phone or if it's better to leave it with the one it comes with.
I'm on Straight Talk (using AT&T towers), so I'm not getting any of the VoLTE service in any regard, so the only reason to do this would be to get a firmware that has timely updates.
Any thought from those who've had the phone for a while?
I would leave it as is unless your compelled to change it. I'm on the H9493 TW version and still on February's patch. Some regions have moved to March already. It will come in the next few weeks.
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I would leave it as is unless your compelled to change it. I'm on the H9493 TW version and still on February's patch. Some regions have moved to March already. It will come in the next few weeks.
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Thanks for the reply. I had heard that the H9493 was a bit behind in other regions, but if it's only by a few weeks or so then I'm not too concerned. If it was more like a couple of months behind, then I would maybe look at flashing another region's firmware.
Looking forward to getting the phone. Was really tempted to last year, but the price kept me away. Now though, I picked up a brand new one on Amazon for only $629, which I believe is still cheaper than the U.S. model, surprisingly!).
I flashed the US firmware when I received mine (mainly for the T-Mobile VoLTE) and it gets updated pretty quickly. It has been a week or more since the March update came. Other than somewhat faster updates, I'm not sure if there will be any benefits for you though.
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I flashed the US firmware when I received mine (mainly for the T-Mobile VoLTE) and it gets updated pretty quickly. It has been a week or more since the March update came. Other than somewhat faster updates, I'm not sure if there will be any benefits for you though.
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Yeah, I'm thinking I'll just hold off, since it sounds like the updates come fairly quickly, even if not at exactly the same time.
Well, we're a week into May and I'm still on the February patch.
Got to say, I'm not too impressed with Sony's update policy, at least for this version of the phone. Here's hoping something comes through sooner rather than later.
H9493 TW is already on the April patch
52.0.A.8.25
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H9493 TW is already on the April patch
52.0.A.8.25
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My phone still shows me on 52.0.A.3.202 with no updates available.
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My phone still shows me on 52.0.A.3.202 with no updates available.
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If it's the TW H9493 then something is up.
I received 52.0.A.8.14 on April 10 and 52.0.A.8.25 on April 30, both OTA
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If it's the TW H9493 then something is up.
I received 52.0.A.8.14 on April 10 and 52.0.A.8.25 on April 30, both OTA
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Yes, it's the H9493. I haven't received any updates since the initial one when I first got the phone.
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Yes, it's the H9493. I haven't received any updates since the initial one when I first got the phone.
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You must have the HK variant
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You must have the HK variant
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Which, I take it, operates on a different update schedule than the rest of the H9693 models?
What a mess. If I didn't already have the phone set up the way I'd like, I'd just install a different regions firmware. Still may have to think about doing that as it doesn't look like I'll get any updates anytime soon.
They are all over the place with them because some get held up based on region. I had a few HK variants over the years and they did eventually catch up. The OEM updates frequently but the methodology is fractured.
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They are all over the place with them because some get held up based on region. I had a few HK variants over the years and they did eventually catch up. The OEM updates frequently but the methodology is fractured.
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Thanks for the info. I still may flash a different regional firmware if I have time this weekend. While it's a pain, it might be the best thing in order to get timely updates. I'll have to research the method to do it (I believe you can do it using Sony's own software), and whether this will wipe the microSD card as well as the phone data.
Sony software will only flash same regional software. You will need to use Newflasher. Read the instructions, it's not difficult..
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Sony software will only flash same regional software. You will need to use Newflasher. Read the instructions, it's not difficult..
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Thanks, I'll look into it.
Been seeing stories that the October security update was pushed by Samsung for the S20 FE. I've got the USA unlocked model and haven't seen any updates yet. Have they pushed it in the USA yet? Have any of the big carriers pushed it yet?
I haven't got it either. I think sometimes it has something to do with your sim card, even on the unlocked model. I use Visible, so I'm probably not getting it for a while lol.
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I haven't got it either. I think sometimes it has something to do with your sim card, even on the unlocked model. I use Visible, so I'm probably not getting it for a while lol.
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I don't think that's the issue. The only country the update is being pushed out to at the moment is Germany from what I read on another web site. Hopefully we will be getting it stateside soon. If you have an unlocked like myself then your carrier does not have anything to do with firmware updates.
get the FW manually and force it on the phone with Odin
October update finally arrived this morning for US unlocked. No notification. Just tried a manual update check and there it was.
Youdoofus said:
get the FW manually and force it on the phone with Odin
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Do you know where the FW is available?
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Do you know where the FW is available?
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cant find the U1 firmware yet, but here is the G781B fw https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s20-fe/firmware/#SM-G781B
very likely need patched Odin to flash it. Buyer beware tho, if the U1 FW isnt out yet and you successfully flash any of these, you cant go back until the FW is released
I received ATJ5 update earlier when I manually checked for updates. Seems stable. Touchscreen issues seem much much better so far.
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October update finally arrived this morning for US unlocked. No notification. Just tried a manual update check and there it was.
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NOT for me. I'm on USA unlocked and just checked. Nothing.
Nothing yet on my USA T-mobile version
Been using my unlocked S20 FE (G781U1) for about a week now, that I got directly from Samsung, and still no updates. Stuck on the September security update.
Coming from an unlocked Pixel 3 that I used for 2 years, this is really weird! I always thought unlocked versions were the first to get the updates.
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Been using my unlocked S20 FE (G781U1) for about a week now, that I got directly from Samsung, and still no updates. Stuck on the September security update.
Coming from an unlocked Pixel 3 that I used for 2 years, this is really weird! I always thought unlocked versions were the first to get the updates.
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So, I've noticed that for some reason Samsung unlocked devices seem to get their updates pushed immediately AFTER the big 3 carriers have pushed their updates for some reason.
I'm using the Unlocked version on ATT, and I received the October security update on the 24th. Touch issues do seem improved, no complaints so far.
I've been following this on Reddit and Facebook. Nobody I know or have seen post that has an Unlocked model on T-Mobile is getting the update. If you swap the SIM out for a non-T-Mobile SIM, it will allow it to update. I actually tried an AT&T SIM today, saw it allowed an update, swapped my T-Mobile SIM back in, then it said no updates available (on September patch).
This makes no sense why T-Mobile is not sending the updates to UNLOCKED phones. I have submitted tickets to both Samsung and T-Mobile regarding this delay. No major response except for: "we're working on it". Unacceptable.
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I've been following this on Reddit and Facebook. Nobody I know or have seen post that has an Unlocked model on T-Mobile is getting the update. If you swap the SIM out for a non-T-Mobile SIM, it will allow it to update. I actually tried an AT&T SIM today, saw it allowed an update, swapped my T-Mobile SIM back in, then it said no updates available (on September patch).
This makes no sense why T-Mobile is not sending the updates to UNLOCKED phones. I have submitted tickets to both Samsung and T-Mobile regarding this delay. No major response except for: "we're working on it". Unacceptable.
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That's both crazy and annoying, but having been with T-Mobile for a few years I can't say I'm surprised. They've been last to the party more often than not when it comes to updates. Do you know if T-Mobile has pushed the October update to the T-Mobile (non-unlocked) variant of this device?? I bet they haven't yet.
I just successfully forced the update, see my new thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20-fe/help/successfully-forced-october-update-t4183325