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[REQUEST] $200+ in donations for working TV out w/CM.

In the quest for the ultimate device, CM gets pretty close. A bunch of people on the CM forums are chiming in with donations for working TV-out for the Incredible, and I wanted to cross-post it here to hopefully garner some more attention and interest.
The goal here is to have working TV out without compromising any other main functionality (like Bluetooth on Sense ROMs).
Not sure if it's possible at all, but if I can attach my phone to my TV and play SNES with my kids using Wiimotes, I will chip in my $20 bucks, and a bunch of other people will too.
The donation count was up to 160 bucks on CM forums as of the time of this post, and I have 3 friends that will chip in as well.

If it happened, I'd donate. CM already deserves donations, but this would up the amount for sure.

Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol

i'd chip in if that happens (and before i jump ship and get an Incredible HD lol), absolutely

Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
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I'm pretty sure tv out works on other (sense-less) roms, it's just a cyanogenmod issue. Use a different rom & it should work. I know nothing about video game systems past the ps1, so does the xbox 360 have bluetooth controllers? If it does, there should be an app on the market for it.

ACD168 said:
Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
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The Xbox 360 controllers work via radio, not bluetooth. Just an FYI.

ACD168 said:
Dude thats sick you can get SNES games on the Incredible than (if) this gets fixed hook it to the TV and play it on the TV using wiimotes... can you use xbox remotes instead, you say that it can be done on sense but you loose bluetooth, so can I hook it to the tv on sense and use a wiimote? or xbox remote if works cos thats what i have lol
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Why not just get SNES9x for PC and hook up your pc to the tv via HDMI, use a bluetooth dongle to connect the wiimote to the pc for a controller and there you go. Thats what I do

g00s3y said:
Why not just get SNES9x for PC and hook up your pc to the tv via HDMI, use a bluetooth dongle to connect the wiimote to the pc for a controller and there you go. Thats what I do
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thats what i do too, the bluetooth dongle was $2 on amazon and everything else was already in place for me.

I would also chip in $20! It is the only thing that I really miss of HTC Sense.

Bluetooth is required to connect the Wiimote to the phone. The Bluetooth stack on sense roms is a piece of crap and doesn't allow modern protocols.
As for the computer thing, I want to be able to do this in the car, at a friends, or anywhere that doesn't involve lugging around a computer. That's why I have a smartphone.
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From what I read they had to reverse engineer the entire HDMI stack to get HDMI working on the EVO -- I'm guessing they'd have to do the same to get TV-OUT working on the the DInc? Heh... or we could all save up cuz the DInc HD is alleged to be "revealed" on Jan 6th. A device that basically looks like a VzW EVO. ;P
But seriously... I'd give it a go and even help if we had source code. But I don't think you get source code when you reverse engineer...

+1 on this. There's got to be some way to get both bluetooth and TV out functioning on the same rom. The wiimote+tv out idea is pretty much the reason I got the incredible when it came out, only to discover that its now been nearly a year with no solution to this!

I may have to buy a TV-out cable and see if I can get some extra money! LOL!

Go for it!!! (connect 4!!)

I will throw $50 into the pot for whoever gets this working. I know Netflix is not here yet, but I got the DInc so that once it did, I could stream to my TVs, specifically the one in my car.

ericlmccormick said:
I will throw $50 into the pot for whoever gets this working. I know Netflix is not here yet, but I got the DInc so that once it did, I could stream to my TVs, specifically the one in my car.
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AND ericlmccormick, FROM THE AUDIENCE, WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!!

This donation to make a rom/tweak **** is getting insane. As far as Netflix, they say Android is too insecure of a platform, however a new phone that was just showcased had a NetFlix app icon on the homescreen. Hmmmm.....

joe3681 said:
This donation to make a rom/tweak **** is getting insane. As far as Netflix, they say Android is too insecure of a platform, however a new phone that was just showcased had a NetFlix app icon on the homescreen. Hmmmm.....
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I dunno if it's insane so much as it is a small minority of people realizing what it's gonna take to motivate those with the skill to solve the issue. Realistically, I'd bet thousands of people have an incredible in their pockets and don't even know it can do TV out, and will never try even if you told them. Verizon certainly doesn't make much noise about the feature!
And even those of us that are savvy enough to know, might never use it enough to care. How many of us are running CM6.1 right now without feeling any loss of function? Dare I say, enough people that the entire process of making CM run on an incredible went through to the point of being called "stable" without even a hint of that feature being available. I know Im running it....even though I want TV out real bad.
Theres so little steam for this, that unless we can literally "fund" the R&D to make it happen ourselves, it might just disappear as newer phones come out and development stops on the older ones. I remember in april last year being amazed that I had a phone that ran @ 1GHz. I mean, seriously. One [email protected]#$^$& gigahertz. And now, we're *****ing about the thunderbolt because it doesn't have dual cores in it! I can't recall a single year in phones where these kinds of leaps and bounds have been so constant.
The whole world of software is a strange parallel to the music industry, wherein it used to be a giant divide between "local band" and "warner bros gold record". Then we had the internet, and an entire underground revolution took place where artists on the ground level could again get their music to the masses, and since most of the middlemen were removed, it again became possible for the idea of a "modest" living on music to be made. The 10 bucks that someone pays for a vynal is going mostly to the artist, where the 25 you'd spend on a major CD might reach the artist as only 2 dollars. The artist wins, the listeners win, and the same kids who were "sticking it to the man" by downloading major releases turn around and trumpet the virtues of "support your favorite bands!!"
This whole world of phone tweaking is almost like that - for years we were lucky if a company made an app for something, and if they didn't, well, a lot of times it didn't get made. Sure, some people developed for WM, but based strictly on popularity of the platform, I couldn't do half of what I can with my android, even though there isn't a huge difference in hardware. It was also much more difficult to find the guys who made these programs - some of them were made in the 90's and just stayed part of the WM continuum for years after they should have been replaced.
Now we have a whole community based on this android os, and it feels like a lot of the middleman has been cut out of the equation - the "audience" can directly reach the "artist", and through that direct connection, can much more easily justify paying for the efforts made. It's hard to pay 60 bucks for a windows mobile app for GPS, for example, knowing that the developer at the end will see only a few cents of that. But when the price on the google market is only 5 bucks for an app, and you know a large percentage of that is going directly to the guy who put in his time and effort to make the program, it's much easier to swallow that.
When someone writes a program, Torque is a great example, that helps me, I'm willing to give the DEV some funding for it, just like I'm willing to pay for tickets to see a local show.
It's a sort of "golden age of software" that I think many have been waiting for, almost as if we get the virtues of "mom and pop shop" service, with the Walmart pricing we've come to depend on as a society.
Hell, I paid 15 bucks for the cable to make TV out function. After what I've paid for accessories for this phone, and considering I intend to keep it till t breaks, I'm certainly willing to contribute to the guy who finally gets the TV out running like it should. If I was a capable software dev, I'd do it myself. But, I'm not. I am however a mechanic, computer systems admin, musician, live sound engineer, and multitude of other things. And when someone asks for me to solve an issue in one of those areas, well, it's certainly nice to make a little scratch on it!
Sorry about the long rant, I'm drunk. And feverishly hoping someone makes this happen! Last trip I took was 12k miles of driving with no real map, in an overheating van, forgot the CD book at home, with a bunch of guys in the back begging for internet access, and we never ever had a hotel lined up before arriving at a destination. And my phone helped solve 100% of these problems, over and over again. Now if only I could get street fighter on the hotel TV from my phone (and hand a wii controller to my opponent), I could die a happy man!

Nothing but real talk man ^

Count me in for 20

Netflix pissing me off. Nintendo 3DS, sure. Xoom? Nope

Netflix now has an app for the Nintendo 3DS, yet we can't get one for these Tetra 2 powerhouses. Hell, it works on my Nook!
Its really annoying. I cancelled my account.
If you have an account, please call and ask about it. The more people complain, the more likely they are to make the fix.
Ill restart my subscription if they get it going, but for now, Netflix has lost a customer.
Has anyone heard if/when they are going to step up?
I have to admit that I am surprised that nvidia isn't screaming at them.

i just got my own account the other day, i've been piggybacking off of others for like a year and a half. I can't wait to have it on my xoom so I can just plug it into my living room TV instead of lugging one of my consoles out there, but I can wait.

I couldnt help but to laugh when I first saw a youtube video on 3Ds...I mean it was a big slap in the face to all xoom users.

youtube video?

patass said:
youtube video?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMVlB-eYZOs

yeah, we get it, netflix is on the 3ds. this WAS announced from the start you know.

And its not like the doesn't work on the zoom, they just disabled the streaming portion. It took them almost a year after the HTC evolution came to even release an android client, no telling how long for a tablet version.

Yeah no kidding Netflix should be a given on such power full tablets I just don't get it
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Haha I do have Netflix on my 3DS right now!
But for my Xoom, nah not possible yet, I hear ya OP. But the 3DS is Nintendo. The Wii is one of the consoles that Netflix fully supports, and if you look at the 3DS version, it's basically the same app ported over from the Wii to the smaller portable 3DS screen.
Nintendo and Netflix have a console+steaming service relationship. They will always officially support each other, no matter what. This is not the case with Android. Not fully and completely supported, not just yet anyways.
We will see full Android support for Netflix in due time. Maybe when Ice cream sandwich makes its debut, who knows. All new tablets and phones will run the same exact OS, making it pretty easy to fully support all devices without a problem. That's what I believe they are looking to do. Makes perfect sense.

The is one of the worst consoles ever. My kids wont even play it, thed rather play angry birds on my phone/tablet. Just email netflix ever day about the xoom...bug the crap out of them

Romp said:
Netflix pissing me off. Nintendo 3DS, sure. Xoom? Nope
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Yeah, me too. US, sure. Europe? Nope

mulletcutter said:
Just email netflix ever day about the xoom...bug the crap out of them
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Doing this.
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mulletcutter said:
Just email netflix ever day about the xoom...bug the crap out of them
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That would be nice, if they listed an email address or had a form to submit. Their customer service contact page only shows a phone number. But, I did just call and had a refreshingly frank discussion with the rep who answered my call. He said they were actively working on it and the issue was related to meeting studios' requirements for DRM in Honeycomb tablets. He was aware of the discussions here and on the other Xoom forum and he even said that some users had been able to change settings to make it work (he wasn't specific, but I presume he meant the build.prop device ID or something like that). I'm still running stock, so I told him this wasn't an option but I thanked him for his candor. He said it was definitely in development, but was unable to provide a timeframe.
I have to admit that his knowledge of the issue and his apparent honesty have me satisfied for the moment and willing to wait a while longer.
Ross in Flagstaff

Splashtop HD yo:
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poisike said:
Yeah, me too. US, sure. Europe? Nope
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That's because we have different licencees for different countries instead of one single licence for all of EU...
We won't get away from that in a loong time.

guys guys, and girls, get playon for android and stream hulu and netflix and everything else from it to your acer or xoom.

This whole thing with neflix cracked me up. I always thought their streaming selection was pretty weak, I only wanted the dvd's as the last rental place in my town went out of business. So I dropped the streaming part, kept the dvd's and saved $2 bucks. To add to that, I always end up using www.crackle.com as it's free and has lots of good movies and shows. It'll also work on the Xoom browser and on my ps3. Netflix screwed up, greedy company is greedy!

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This whole thing with neflix cracked me up. I always thought their streaming selection was pretty weak, I only wanted the dvd's as the last rental place in my town went out of business. So I dropped the streaming part, kept the dvd's and saved $2 bucks. To add to that, I always end up using www.crackle.com as it's free and has lots of good movies and shows. It'll also work on the Xoom browser and on my ps3. Netflix screwed up, greedy company is greedy!
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Crackle looks interesting but I can't use it without an almost immediate FC on my stock browser. And keeping a pc running at home while I travel, just so I can run a third party streamer, seems unnecessary. I, for 1, am willing to wait a bit longer... (at least until I find something better)

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Crackle looks interesting but I can't use it without an almost immediate FC on my stock browser. And keeping a pc running at home while I travel, just so I can run a third party streamer, seems unnecessary. I, for 1, am willing to wait a bit longer... (at least until I find something better)
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Leaving a desktop on all day uses about $2 in electricity per month, lol
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wolf1306 said:
guys guys, and girls, get playon for android and stream hulu and netflix and everything else from it to your acer or xoom.
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Playon has to be the biggest piece of crap, you can't even rewind with that or skip forward while playing Netflix, also if viewing Netflix thru playon it wont remember your position if you stop and resume later, splashtop is way better. I've paid for playon for a whole year and am so upset with their product
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HDC Galaxy Note N7000/i9220 Android Dualsim Phone

After some messing about on-line I was intrigued to find this video review of something that "looked" similar to the Galaxy note.
Obviously its not the real thing as you and I are well aware but it prompted me to do some more researching.
After a few nights of checking out the different versions of the "clone" I decided to bite the bullet and buy one to play about with.
Now I don't know much about Android phones and was hoping someone might be able to give me some advice as to exactly what this phone is capable of in terms of using the android marketplace and installing generic android apps.
I am a little unsure of some of the screens. It shows that it has Android Version 4.0.3 - Does that mean it has ICS already installed?
The other thing I was wondering is whether or not there are any custom roms that will do away with some of the China/Far East apps/languages that this thing will be able to run?
I have attached some pics and also the pics that I was sent in .rar files from the supplier..
**I understand that this is not the real deal so anyone who feels like having a nice flaming session then rant away. My questions are genuine in the hope to learn something..
Cheers

It's probably the cheapest hardware around in that. Don't expect any smoothness and it's on the completely opposite end of the phone spectrum from the Note. Doubt there are any custom ROM for it as well, but it probably runs many apps from Play.
I don't know why you would waste money on it, unless you try to look cool by pretending you have a genuine Note. It's a bit like walking around with a fake Rolex.
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Yea for sure I know what you're saying. I know someone with a fake rolex. He has had it for many many years. It still even tells the right time
I in no way purchased it to "pretend" to have the real deal. I have an iphone already and this was more something to play around with.
I like the "open source" side to it and with my Linux background and Programming and coding firmware for Satellite TV Receivers It took my fancy as its not locked down as badly as an I-Phone.
I guess from reading a bit more I would have do dump the firmware that is already on the phone and decompile it and figure out how to edit it to my own needs and then re-flash.
Hell, for £130 if it keeps me amused and out of mischief for a few months then its money well spent.
I would rather learn on something that costs a LOAD less. Once I am familiar with the whole system structure, Tools, Terms, Apps, etc etc I will probably buy the real deal.
Take Care..

I was thinking of buying one. Are they good? Where did you buy yours? The white one looks nice.

KonnyLo said:
I was thinking of buying one. Are they good? Where did you buy yours? The white one looks nice.
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hi mate, when it arrives I will let you know!

still beats the dell streak lol
not bad for a fake phone imo, anyone who wants a big screen on a budget could use it.

Hey I woudn't mind using this over my (screen-plagued issues) Gnote..
This phone easily beats the features of the real mccoy.
I wonder how would Sammy feel that a run of the mill cheapo phone like this has their branded logo emblazoned on it?
Watching the video mesmerized me on the myriad capabilities this knockoff can offer.
Also great music, it 'tranced' me while watching the phone's features...
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Does it run real ICS ?
There are fake Chinese 'iFones' in the market which certainly don't have IOS.

He says in the video it runs Gingerbread which would also explain the GB in the build number.
For 130 pounds I guess it's a pretty decent phone. It has a pretty slow single core CPU and a relatively low resolution for such a big screen but in the end you get what you pay for. I'm sure it's a nice toy to play around with and for a first Android experience you could do a lot worse but since I first used my Note I'll never settle for anything less anymore
Because these types of phones are never meant for international sales I doubt there will be any viable custom roms anytime soon and I think you can forget about official updates but even stock Gingerbread is a very decent OS. You'll miss out on a big part of the 'openness' of Android though.
Once you decide to get the real deal you'll be amazed at what the real Note is actually capable of.

I guess it has 800x480 res which gives you pixels like golf balls with a 5.3" screen. That's so extremely far from the Note hi res experience...
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Zamboney said:
I guess it has 800x480 res which gives you pixels like golf balls with a 5.3" screen. That's so extremely far from the Note hi res experience...
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screen is 5"

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screen is 5"
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In the movie the guy says "it's got a 5.3 inch 5-point multi-touch screen".
That's another difference from the real Note, only being able to detect a maximum of 5 touch points. The Note detects at least 10. Nothing to be concerned about I think, I've never used more than 3 fingers at the same time.

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In the movie the guy says "it's got a 5.3 inch 5-point multi-touch screen".
That's another difference from the real Note, only being able to detect a maximum of 5 touch points. The Note detects at least 10. Nothing to be concerned about I think, I've never used more than 3 fingers at the same time.
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Ah okay cool cool. I think in the vid he says 5.3 but on his blog, he later corrects it.
Good that you mention about the 5 touch points. I wondered what he was doing when he touched the screen like that.
How and why would you use more then 5 fingers at one time anyway? Still pretty cool that the "real" note can do 10.
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He says in the video it runs Gingerbread which would also explain the GB in the build number.
For 130 pounds I guess it's a pretty decent phone. It has a pretty slow single core CPU and a relatively low resolution for such a big screen but in the end you get what you pay for. I'm sure it's a nice toy to play around with and for a first Android experience you could do a lot worse but since I first used my Note I'll never settle for anything less anymore
Because these types of phones are never meant for international sales I doubt there will be any viable custom roms anytime soon and I think you can forget about official updates but even stock Gingerbread is a very decent OS. You'll miss out on a big part of the 'openness' of Android though.
Once you decide to get the real deal you'll be amazed at what the real Note is actually capable of.
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Ah okay. I am already mooching about for legit ones and there seems to be a good deal on the Real Note from amazon.de for about £350
I am actually quite looking forward for the fake one to arrive to see what its like. When I spoke to the seller, he said it came with some Legit Sammy software so who knows what that's for..
Looks like it Left Guangzhou on Friday so I expect it to be here sometime before the end of this week.

I think spythedude is aware of the fact this phone doesn't come anywhere near the specifications of the real Note. Everything about the phone screams FAKE!!! But still, for 130 pounds I think it's a pretty decent device given it's large capacitive screen. I can't think of any Android phone getting anywhere near such screen size for 130 pounds. It won't be the fastest phone around but there used to be Android phones with even worse hardware that still gave a good user experience.
@spythedude >> If you want, please let us know what you think of the device when you receive it, I'm really curious about it.

Arobase40 said:
Then I mostly emphasized about Colonel Zap reviewer and Fastcardtech fraud, as this is indeed a real fraud when mixing up Samsung product images during unboxing with this so called clone.
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Hi
I didn't mix up any pictures, I'm showing in my video exactly what I received when I ordered it. I have the FEELING (and I don't know this) that the box it came in might actually be an original box but of course it could be a fake as well. The phone definitely is NOT made by Samsung and whatever specs I mention in the video, I did so to the best of my knowledge.
I'm not trying too "fool" anyone, I'm just reporting about a phone, trying to show people how a device like this operates, that's it!

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@spythedude >> If you want, please let us know what you think of the device when you receive it, I'm really curious about it.
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Hi mate, yea for sure. I'll try and do my best to give an accurate feedback and as much info as possible.

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I don't know what the laws say about such a "promotion" in your own country,
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I'm not promoting or selling anything. I just make videos of the phones and tablets that I order from China, giving who ever might be interested in these devices "the heads up" what the devices are all about.
I couldn't care less if some likes a particular device or not and/or orders one of them from whatever online store
I've been reviewing phone and tables for years now, some are "fakes", some are not and so far my videos have been very much appreciated by the majority of my viewers
If you don't like my videos, don't watch them. If you don't like the device, don't buy it But please don't accuse me of mixing things up to fool anyone, I've never done that and I never will.

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I'm not promoting or selling anything. I just make videos of the phones and tablets that I order from China, giving who ever might be interested in these devices "the heads up" what the devices are all about.
I couldn't care less if some likes a particular device or not and/or orders one of them from whatever online store
I've been reviewing phone and tables for years now, some are "fakes", some are not and so far my videos have been very much appreciated by the majority of my viewers
If you don't like my videos, don't watch them. If you don't like the device, don't buy it But please don't accuse me of mixing things up to fool anyone, I've never done that and I never will.
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ColonelZap, don't worry buddy. When people sit on a high horse its difficult to see things properly or for what it is.
I appreciate and really enjoy your site for checking things out and I am sure others do too.. You will always get a small percentage of people who like to cry about things they don't agree with or understand.
Take Care

I have been looking into this because my phone is a blackberry and is not really working out for me... so when you get the phone, woud you mind making a video showing how fast is temple run and other such games, also please do a camera video test

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I have been looking into this because my phone is a blackberry and is not really working out for me... so when you get the phone, woud you mind making a video showing how fast is temple run and other such games, also please do a camera video test
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Oh okay cool.. I'll do my best. I don't really play games but I'll have a go

Hotspot not so unlimited with root. - T-Mobile USA LTE

Got cut off today while finishing the Dragon Ball series. I have LTE enabled and was streaming with it. I still love t-mo though, coming from Sprint their speeds are to die for.
Didn't see a thread about this.
Edit: not to say they ever implied it was unlimited in the first place, but it would seem so with root.
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which plan are you on?

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which plan are you on?
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Unlimited 4G with 500MB hotspot. Took Sprint 2.5 years to catch me tethering without paying with hot spot hack on sph-d700 (epic 4g)
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Well the hotspot of all their plans it technically only 500mb then you have to pay an extra $10 for another 1gb. Using data on the phone is unlimited. They probably saw your user agent string and noticed it was for a computer rather than your phone. Still you got a lot more than 500mb of hotspot out of it, so not too bad a deal.
Edit: beat me to it
They probably noticed quickly because it was so much data in a short period of time. If you spread out the tethering more (maybe less video), they probably wouldn't notice. I'm on the $30 prepaid plan and tether around 5gb a month but I spread it out over a couple days (maybe 500-2gb a day) and haven't been caught yet.

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Well the hotspot of all their plans it technically only 500mb then you have to pay an extra $10 for another 1gb. Using data on the phone is unlimited. They probably saw your user agent string and noticed it was for a computer rather than your phone. Still you got a lot more than 500mb of hotspot out of it, so not too bad a deal.
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Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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you can spoof it on your computer i guess but im not so sure that's the problem

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you can spoof it on your computer i guess but im not so sure that's the problem
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Smasung series 3 Chromebook? If not it's cool. Guess I gotta wait till I can wait to get a PC and patience for anime episodes lol
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
Yeah but compared to Sprint, T-mo is really keeping an eye out for the tether'ers. Glad I got as far as I did though lol. Any way around the user agent string?
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Yeah you can spoof it by changing your browser setting. Depending on your browser you can look it up: http://www.howtogeek.com/113439/how...user-agent-without-installing-any-extensions/
It's a feature built into basically all browsers.
It decreases your chances of being detected but it really depends on how tmobile detects tethering. The user agent way is the simpliest and quickest but they can also do it by TTL (time to live) of the packets your computer requests as you for example watch videos or browse. They can also detect it other ways but those are 2 of the more common ones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734138 Post 8 explains the TTL method a bit more
Basically changing your user agent is the quickest method that my help a bit (depending on if they favor that detection method). Using a vpn on your computer might further and better prevent detection. (I've never tried this myself but in theory it might help more than a simple user agent change. You can find guides of other methods people use to try and get around it. I haven't heavily investigated any other methods aside from the vpn and user agent since I've never been cut off so I don't really know of of any specific ones.
I personally think the thing that really tips them off is a huge spike in usage for a short time period.
If you tether over bluetooth or USB, you basically never get caught in my experience as well as several others I know who do the same. So I would try that. It's a bit slower but not bad.
I'd suggest bluetooth or usb tethering next time and see if that prolongs your hotspot usage. But as I mentioned, I really think it is the massive usage spike in a short time that tips them off so you may still get caught. When I use bluetooth and usb tethering, I still try not to go to heavy on usage over short periods.
I suspect that the TTL method may be more commonly used since it's not easily avoidable so you are best off slowing your usage when you are tethered. It would be very easy for them to see a spike in usage and check the TTL of your packets, realize you're tethering, then cut it off. It's more reliable than user agents.

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It's funny though that I can go to G+, FB, and G-Mail but not uanime.com or any forums, whether USB or wireless tethering now. Guess I'll try spoofing.
Edit: Override the user agent in the browser on ChromeOS to resemble a GNex and it works, thanks. Although some web pages are now literally half the size they used to be, it doesn't effect full screen videos.
I could kiss you lazer155 haha thank you so much, I wish I could thank your post multiple times
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They blocked all the user agents I used to be able to use. They certainly are beefing up their detection abilities.
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tdoglablarezigzaguno.1.3.13 said:
It's funny though that I can go to G+, FB, and G-Mail but not uanime.com or any forums, whether USB or wireless tethering now. Guess I'll try spoofing.
Edit: Override the user agent in the browser on ChromeOS to resemble a GNex and it works, thanks. Although some web pages are now literally half the size they used to be, it doesn't effect full screen videos.
I could kiss you lazer155 haha thank you so much, I wish I could thank your post multiple times
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Lol no problem, glad it works for you now. :highfive: Yeah that is the downside I forgot to mention. You can try to fix that problem by experimenting with making your browser look like other desktop browsers (for example maybe tmobile doesn't block some of the more obscure desktop browsers like opera etc.) or copying your phone's desktop style user agent in chrome. That might result in desktop style pages but tmobile will think you are a phone requesting desktop. (the user agent actually shows your operating system too so if you spoof that part to android you should be able to get desktop style while still staying hidden) You'd have to look up the android chrome desktop user agent though. I don't know what it is.
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They blocked all the user agents I used to be able to use. They certainly are beefing up their detection abilities.
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Yeah they do seem to figure out the user agent trick eventually if you use it several times. That's happened to other people I know. I think if you keep using a lot of data when tethering eventually they review your usage more carefully with their other methods like the TTL check.

Absolutely no less than 90% of this has been used while connected via native wifi tethering, and this usage is over the course of only 2 weeks. I have unlimited 4g (prepaid) and no tethering plan at all.
I've gotten a page that says I'm either not authorized to tether or over my limit two or three times in the last 3 days, but I just disable/re-enable tethering and reload the page....that's solved it every time.
just in case anyone is wondering, I'm using native wifi/usb tether on official PA (always the latest build) and franco M3 kernel....I've also got the chrome user agent switcher installed on my phone and set to desktop. I'm sure that doesn't matter, but I thought I should mention it. I'm also using chrome on my ubuntu PC with no user agent switcher installed.
I'm curious how much data everyone else who has had a problem tethering have used. I'm pretty sure my usage is way heavier than probably 99% of their customers...even those of us here

You guys have me all kinds of curious about tethering now.
Are any of you using mostly LTE?
If so, what's the battery life?
Stability of tethering?

CrashTestDroid said:
You guys have me all kinds of curious about tethering now.
Are any of you using mostly LTE?
If so, what's the battery life?
Stability of tethering?
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I stay on LTE, no serious difference in battery lifeand I'm usually plugged in while I tether, so battery life doesn't matter much there. Perfectly stable until T-Mo discovers you're over the limit.
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I wonder if whether or not T-mobile can measure how much data you've used for tethering without using their hotspot app (what they use on T-mobile branded phones to meter tethering usage) depends on the APN you're connected through?
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Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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I don't think that has anything to do with chromecast. You streamed a ton of high res media. That uses data. Don't you have WiFi where your TV is?
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duce102 said:
Update wow, I got my Chromecast today and viewed The Hunger Games and a few episode of Breaking Bad through Netflix and it really sky rocketed my data usage. I guess it'll take some time for T-Mo to catch on to Chromecast tethering. Someone let me know if I should delete this post in case T-Mo is watching.
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So is the Chromecast connected via Wi-Fi to your home router or to your phone (acting as a hot spot)?
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pwc realtor said:
So is the Chromecast connected via Wi-Fi to your home router or to your phone (acting as a hot spot)?
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Phone, I don't see much point in paying two different companies for the same service lol
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I don't think that has anything to do with chromecast. You streamed a ton of high res media. That uses data. Don't you have WiFi where your TV is?
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No, I know it's not the Chromecast at fault, just stating I was using that to stream though. I'm surprised at how well its working and I've never streamed 1080p before so the jump in data usage caught me off guard a bit.

Chromecast apps besides netflix, youtube,play music,

Why cant mobile tab cast yet? I hardly ever usemky clunky laptop. Inprefer not to.
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Because?
It's in beta, what do you expect?

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Because?
It's in beta, what do you expect?
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You know what, my check that paid for my Chromecast was in Beta. Sorry if it doesn't work!

aiiee said:
You know what, my check that paid for my Chromecast was in Beta. Sorry if it doesn't work!
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Wow, I didn't realize people were so ignorant about beta products / early adopters.
If you don't want to be a guinea pig, don't buy a first gen product.

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Wow, I didn't realize people were so ignorant about beta products / early adopters.
If you don't want to be a guinea pig, don't buy a first gen product.
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You know what, my check that paid for my Chromecast was in Beta. Sorry if it doesn't work!
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lol, I actually thought his comment was funny and should be taken less seriously. "Lighten up Francis".
Personally, I don't mind $35 for this device in its current state, but I can understand others' frustration. It's not free like many beta programs AND it's intentionally crippled (I understand why, not that I fully agree, but that's just my opinion).
YouTube... eh...
Netflix... seems like everything I like isn't available on streaming
Google Music... inefficient; other easier, simpler ways to play music on speakers, lol.
Personal movie collection and family videos... would be nice... patiently waiting...

My chromecast is on its way. My living room is already a media paradise though. Ps3 and Xbox and bluray player can all stream personal videos and downloads and Netflix. Being in Canada it cost me like $75 when all was said and done to get my chromecast which is way less functional than anything I already have. I can stream any music I want through my surround sound from my nexus 7 or 4 even my chromebook or PC with Bluetooth. And of all that fails for some reason the HDMI cable coming from my PC can do all of that media stuff very efficiently. So why did I spend all that money on a chromecast, well I don't know. But I can't wait to find out what this thing will be able to do eventually after the nerds get SDK accessibility. The future is bright my friends. Let's just hope its not a flop like Google TV. But I think they learned a valuable lesson there.
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I too am looking forward to when it can do more. Wonder what challenges they are facing to get the SDK finalized etc.
For someone living in a smaller space like myself its great to have the combo of all access and the ability to control your music in the living room from the bed room. The best part about this over google tv...this was only $35, minimal investment.

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Wow, I didn't realize people were so ignorant about beta products / early adopters.
If you don't want to be a guinea pig, don't buy a first gen product.
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Amen.

I feel the real issue isn't that it's beta/1st gen, we aren't talking about "bugs" here. The issue is this, if the SDK is still in beta, and we can't know its capabilities until that's done, then don't issue an "update" breaking it's current capabilities. Everyone was happy with what it could do while the SDK was still in beta, but then they "updated" it to remove nearly all of its functionality, while still not providing the final SDK and capabilities. This is akin to buying a 1st gen car, then the dealer says "we are going to release new ECU software that will change the way is works soon, but for now, we are going to make it only go 15MPH until we can release that software.

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I feel the real issue isn't that it's beta/1st gen, we aren't talking about "bugs" here. The issue is this, if the SDK is still in beta, and we can't know its capabilities until that's done, then don't issue an "update" breaking it's current capabilities. Everyone was happy with what it could do while the SDK was still in beta, but then they "updated" it to remove nearly all of its functionality, while still not providing the final SDK and capabilities. This is akin to buying a 1st gen car, then the dealer says "we are going to release new ECU software that will change the way is works soon, but for now, we are going to make it only go 15MPH until we can release that software.
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Google is trying to get more media providers to sign on. No one wants to sign on for a payed service on a "hackable" device. I don't see this device being "open" for a while yet, but with the popularity of the device we can only hope media providers sign on and add content and functionality to the device the right way before it gets all hacked up and no companies want to touch it
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Cuzz1369 said:
Google is trying to get more media providers to sign on. No one wants to sign on for a payed service on a "hackable" device. I don't see this device being "open" for a while yet, but with the popularity of the device we can only hope media providers sign on and add content and functionality to the device the right way before it gets all hacked up and no companies want to touch it
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Didn't make sense to me.
The Chromecast simply receives the command from your device of PC to play whatever you have access to from that said device. It's not like having the Chromecast will allow you to watch fee Netflix. Many companies have already said that Chromecast support is in the world.

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Didn't make sense to me.
The Chromecast simply receives the command from your device of PC to play whatever you have access to from that said device. It's not like having the Chromecast will allow you to watch fee Netflix. Many companies have already said that Chromecast support is in the world.
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Living in Canada it is very easy to get american Netflix on my PC yet it is blocked on my chromecast.
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TabGuy said:
Amen.
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It was a joke, you speedbumps.