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Z Or Honami?

hey all ^_^
i was about 2 buy Xperia z when i heard that Sony will release smart phone which called honami with 20MP camera and xenon flash and 2700m battery and 5 inch display with snapdragon 800 clocked at 2.3GH
as i read it will be launched in japan in july and the universal version will be in august or september
Is that true?shall i wait 4 it?or thats just fake news?
Thanks in advance

Dude, 20MP is not possible for 2013! they made step from 8MP - 13MP after 2 or 3 years, no one will move forward to such a high resolution in so small time. Think twice...

droidhd said:
Dude, 20MP is not possible for 2013! they made step from 8MP - 13MP after 2 or 3 years, no one will move forward to such a high resolution in so small time. Think twice...
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see this http://www.phonearena.com/news/One-...20-MP-Cyber-shot-quality-Honami-phone_id41413

Good luck in waiting then, if you think so . I dont belive there will be 20MP phone soon, since even not so many DSLR doesn't have that amount of pixels

droidhd said:
Dude, 20MP is not possible for 2013! they made step from 8MP - 13MP after 2 or 3 years, no one will move forward to such a high resolution in so small time. Think twice...
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pretty sure its been out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiuxILBquRs
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abokorayem said:
hey all ^_^
i was about 2 buy Xperia z when i heard that Sony will release smart phone which called honami with 20MP camera and xenon flash and 2700m battery and 5 inch display with snapdragon 800 clocked at 2.3GH
as i read it will be launched in japan in july and the universal version will be in august or september
Is that true?shall i wait 4 it?or thats just fake news?
Thanks in advance
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are you a photographer?

G1_enthusiast said:
pretty sure its been out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiuxILBquRs
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are you a photographer?
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actually i dont rly care about the 20MP camera....what i care about the the Xenon flash as the xperia z flash isnt that good

abokorayem said:
actually i dont rly care about the 20MP camera....what i care about the the Xenon flash as the xperia z flash isnt that good
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...well thats a strange way to choose your phone but if thats what your after then look at Samsung or Nokia, my S3 is like a mini flash light...ridiculously bright.

u didnt get my point....Ofcourse i care about the camera but what i think is that 13mp or 20mp not that difference 2 me as iam not a photographer...but what will make a differenceis the good flash....dont forget the 2700-3000m battery and 2.3 snapdragon processor

droidhd said:
Dude, 20MP is not possible for 2013! they made step from 8MP - 13MP after 2 or 3 years, no one will move forward to such a high resolution in so small time. Think twice...
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If Nokia can bring out a 40+ mp phone why can't Sony bring out a 20mp phone? In the end the mp doesn't mean that much.

abokorayem said:
u didnt get my point....Ofcourse i care about the camera but what i think is that 13mp or 20mp not that difference 2 me as iam not a photographer...but what will make a differenceis the good flash....dont forget the 2700-3000m battery and 2.3 snapdragon processor
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well sounds like the Note II is good for u then...battery huge and the camera same as S3, the processor is a marketing gimmick, duo core S4 pro processor can run pretty much everything and anything.
P.S I got the 7000mah battery for my S3 and it last me 2 day with heavy usage and no wifi but if you have your heart set on that phone then by all mean, i'm just giving you the option that is already available.

On the end you guys will say I was correct . Android phones, long time won't see 20MP. Nokia made it in 2012, in that time was really popular 8MP on Android, am I right? XS was exception with 12mp. None of the high phones was better in mp.
Dsteppa, I agree, mps doesn't mean nothing .
P.S.: The point is, Xperia Z forums are the only one, who talks more about other phones than XZ. I never saw something like that for example in DHD forums. But nvm, I will ignore this kind of topics in future

droidhd said:
On the end you guys will say I was correct . Android phones, long time won't see 20MP. Nokia made it in 2012, in that time was really popular 8MP on Android, am I right? XS was exception with 12mp. None of the high phones was better in mp.
Dsteppa, I agree, mps doesn't mean nothing .
P.S.: The point is, Xperia Z forums are the only one, who talks more about other phones than XZ. I never saw something like that for example in DHD forums. But nvm, I will ignore this kind of topics in future
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Depends on what you are using MP's for, creates damn good crops of photos due to the lack of zooming capability
The key here with the Honami is having a decent and most likely faster lens to benefit from more MP's
Sony need to proove themselves first by fixing the XZ photo quality, less noise suppression. Otherwise I am sure too many people will be put off.

droidhd said:
On the end you guys will say I was correct . Android phones, long time won't see 20MP. Nokia made it in 2012, in that time was really popular 8MP on Android, am I right? XS was exception with 12mp. None of the high phones was better in mp.
Dsteppa, I agree, mps doesn't mean nothing .
P.S.: The point is, Xperia Z forums are the only one, who talks more about other phones than XZ. I never saw something like that for example in DHD forums. But nvm, I will ignore this kind of topics in future
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...dude I dont know what the heck you talking about, no one says your right. matter of fact I proved you wrong there is a phone above 20 even 30 MP and matter or not is up to the user. That Nokia 808 has the best glass even for photographer standard. Its a Carl Zeiss lens with an aperture of f2.4 most DSLR kit lens come at F3.5-5.6
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/23/3113109/nokia-808-pureview-sample-photos

G1_enthusiast said:
...dude I dont know what the heck you talking about, no one says your right. matter of fact I proved you wrong there is a phone above 20 even 30 MP and matter or not is up to the user. That Nokia 808 has the best glass even for photographer standard. Its a Carl Zeiss lens with an aperture of f2.4 most DSLR kit lens come at F3.5-5.6
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/23/3113109/nokia-808-pureview-sample-photos
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Nicely put, and right on the money.
And as I said you can use any part of that photo to make a fantastic crop due to lack of zoom, and still be much better image quality than any phone out there.
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abokorayem said:
actually i dont rly care about the 20MP camera....what i care about the the Xenon flash as the xperia z flash isnt that good
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Really, that has got to be one of the most strange justifications I have heard. Just buy a Xenon flash light, Point and shoot, even better a point and shoot with a hotshoe, or a DSLR.
At the end of the day this is a Phone, and a bonus of the camera

You guys seem to be missing the point
In case of Honami it's not MP count but camera sensor size. It has a bigger sized camera sensor than Nokia N8 and close to Pureview808 size. That is 3 times bigger sensor than Xperia Z

randomuseresato said:
You guys seem to be missing the point
In case of Honami it's not MP count but camera sensor size. It has a bigger sized camera sensor than Nokia N8 and close to Pureview808 size. That is 3 times bigger sensor than Xperia Z
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And a decent lens

randomuseresato said:
You guys seem to be missing the point
In case of Honami it's not MP count but camera sensor size. It has a bigger sized camera sensor than Nokia N8 and close to Pureview808 size. That is 3 times bigger sensor than Xperia Z
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He is not real clear on what he want, first he say he want a better phone with a list of specific like camera, processor and etc. then he change his mind and say he wanted better flash and battery, which i offer him the choice of Samsung Note II, it offer all those things except for processor, which is negligent for a phone. I'm afraid he either a little confuse or just another Sony employee trying to advertise upcoming phone which I suspect is most of the user in this thread.

More megapixels = more noise = more processing = lesser details. The z is better for me.
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Simply put: go for Z. You can wait few months for Honami and don't even like it once it's out. Get XZ, and then when Honami gets out, you can sell XZ and get it instead if you'll think it's worth the change.

There will always be a next phone.

[Q] Moto x 2013 camera

There seems to be some problem with my moto x camera!
The pictures are little blurred or noisy, I compared the pictures with nexus 5 and it they are not even close.
I can't find much settings here to adjust focus or exposure. Can some help.
Attached some random clicks from my camera.

The moto x has never been known for its camera.

Travisdroidx2 said:
The moto x has never been known for its camera.
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I totally agree!! But the pictures were more clear in the beginning or for some pictures at least .
Is there any settings update or app that could overcome this issue.
Seriously the pictures are worse than a regular 5MP lumia mobile.

Narendra varma said:
I totally agree!! But the pictures were more clear in the beginning or for some pictures at least .
Is there any settings update or app that could overcome this issue.
Seriously the pictures are worse than a regular 5MP lumia mobile.
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I get best results with HDR and outdoors. I also use auto flash and auto HDR inside. That is a hit or miss. Not saying I don't ever get good shots. But coming from a note and a s4 there is no comparison.
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Another option. Has advanced features.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/how-to-unlock-advanced-camera-settings-t2884035

Travisdroidx2 said:
I get best results with HDR and outdoors. I also use auto flash and auto HDR inside. That is a hit or miss. Not saying I don't ever get good shots. But coming from a note and a s4 there is no comparison.
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Another option. Has advanced features.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/how-to-unlock-advanced-camera-settings-t2884035
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Thank you., I already tried that,
But the problem started after installing the app., unlocking advanced options.
The pictures were not at all clear. I might have tampered with unnecessary options.

Narendra varma said:
Thank you., I already tried that,
But the problem started after installing the app., unlocking advanced options.
The pictures were not at all clear. I might have tampered with unnecessary options.
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Maybe try to clear the data on just the stock camera app. That should restore all the default settings.

You could try to turn on control focus and exposure, it allows you to drag a box over the area you want focused. It helps in certain scenarios. Like others have already said, cameras have never been a strong suit for Moto
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Clean the lens

This ^^^
The phone won't just take worse pictures with time.
You might have micro scratches too.

Please check this screenshot!
May be there are some scratches!
I observed one more disturbance when I open my camera,
Seeing some vertical lines while I was trying to take a picture!
Seems like magnetic disturbance! Is this expected?
Attached a pic for reference,
And the images are fine from close distance but the more distant the object is its get blurred, which is not the case for 8mp nexus 5.

I compared the camera's of my mobile moto x and moto g second gen, seriously my photos were out of focus and missing clarity.
As well the vertical lines observed in my phone are not there in moto g.
Will restore to factory settings and check it, anything else I can do?

[Q] Moto X camera question

Hi All,
I've got my Moto X and I really love it. I previously had a Nexus 5 which I liked, but doesn't have much character compared to the X. The only issue I've got is camera quality. It seems insanely poor (and the N5 wasn't exactly great). One thing I've been doing though is using Google's stock camera app rather than Moto's. Is that a mistake? Is there software optimisation in the Moto camera app which gives better results?
Any other tips and getting the best pics? It's not even just low light. I took a pic on a bright day and the picture was totally washed out (my friend took the same pic on his iphone and it was just another league). All pics just seem to have bad light metering and are very noisy. I've never had this in a phone camera before...
Thanks in advance...

tifosi256 said:
Hi All,
I've got my Moto X and I really love it. I previously had a Nexus 5 which I liked, but doesn't have much character compared to the X. The only issue I've got is camera quality. It seems insanely poor (and the N5 wasn't exactly great). One thing I've been doing though is using Google's stock camera app rather than Moto's. Is that a mistake? Is there software optimisation in the Moto camera app which gives better results?
Any other tips and getting the best pics? It's not even just low light. I took a pic on a bright day and the picture was totally washed out (my friend took the same pic on his iphone and it was just another league). All pics just seem to have bad light metering and are very noisy. I've never had this in a phone camera before...
Thanks in advance...
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I don't have any answers but I'm hoping there are some fixes released soon, either by motonovo themselves or some industrious xda mods

I don't think any software mods are going to improve the camera much on our Moto X 2014's. Seems Motorola used an oldish camera sensor in this device. Some people are even saying this camera shouldn't have been used in a 2014 flagship. So we have 2 choices - Put up with it or get a phone with a better camera.

Diesel779 said:
I don't think any software mods are going to improve the camera much on our Moto X 2014's. Seems Motorola used an oldish camera sensor in this device. Some people are even saying this camera shouldn't have been used in a 2014 flagship. So we have 2 choices - Put up with it or get a phone with a better camera.
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Wow, that's really depressing to hear :crying:
I knew before buying that it wasn't the best camera, but it seems to be the worst I've had since the nexus 4. Seems Motorola like to clear inventory of old stock (see the moto 360 hardware)

tifosi256 said:
Wow, that's really depressing to hear :crying:
I knew before buying that it wasn't the best camera, but it seems to be the worst I've had since the nexus 4. Seems Motorola like to clear inventory of old stock (see the moto 360 hardware)
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Yeah, I expected more from a 13mp camera. I'm considering switching to a Nexus 6, but I really like my Moto X apart from the camera.

Diesel779 said:
I don't think any software mods are going to improve the camera much on our Moto X 2014's. Seems Motorola used an oldish camera sensor in this device. Some people are even saying this camera shouldn't have been used in a 2014 flagship. So we have 2 choices - Put up with it or get a phone with a better camera.
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It's the same sensor as the g3..

robstunner said:
It's the same sensor as the g3..
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If that's the case, it must be the lens or software. The G3 has a very nice camera.

robstunner said:
It's the same sensor as the g3..
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The Moto X 2014 is the same sensor as the G3? Are you sure? But, even if that is true, the G3 has OIS and laser auto focus and other improvements. But I'm pretty sure the G3 uses a slightly newer sensor. The pics on my G3 weren't bad, not great but ok. However, they were a LOT better than on my Moto X 2014, this camera is a joke.
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tifosi256 said:
If that's the case, it must be the lens or software. The G3 has a very nice camera.
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I'm almost certain they use different sensors, I could be wrong. The G3 has OIS and laser auto focus. The camera on the G3 is significantly better than the Moto X 2014, I've owned both. There seems to be a lot of people complaining about the camera o the Moto X, but no one doing the same for the G3. If they used the same cameras I wouldn't expect that to be the case.
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robstunner said:
It's the same sensor as the g3..
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Have you got any links that state the Moto X 2014 uses the same camera as the G3? The G3 could just be better because of it's extra hardware i.e OIS and laser autofocus, but I'd still be interested in seeing a link stating these devices have the exact same camera.

Right in the middle there.
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Yes this camera blows. I had a S5 then a Note Edge. I love this phone way more than either of those but omg this thing has a crap camera

Both camera's (g3/moto x) have the same Sony IMX135, only the g2/3 (both the same sensor) have OIS and apparently better software. Compared to the lg g2 the moto x sucks donkey balls.
It does help to use other camera apps.

robstunner said:
Right in the middle there.
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Just goes to show how much difference OIS and laser auto focus make, because the camera on the Moto X 2014 performs nowhere near as good as the G3. I'm just going to stick with this phone now until the HTC M9 is released. I loved my M8 but the camera and how tall and skinny it was led me to sell it. I'll definitely be switching to the M9 though if HTC use a better camera.

Diesel779 said:
Just goes to show how much difference OIS and laser auto focus make, because the camera on the Moto X 2014 performs nowhere near as good as the G3. I'm just going to stick with this phone now until the HTC M9 is released. I loved my M8 but the camera and how tall and skinny it was led me to sell it. I'll definitely be switching to the M9 though if HTC use a better camera.
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more like software and optics, but ya i agree. I think the m8 camera holds it's own against the moto x, especially in low light.

robstunner said:
more like software and optics, but ya i agree. I think the m8 camera holds it's own against the moto x, especially in low light.
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I'm just looking at an M8, I think I'd be stupid to get another M8 now though with the M9 around the corner. OIS has to help with the G3 camera and that laser auto focus is good. My G3 just kept overheating though, and after a google search it seemed to be a pretty common problem so I got rid of it. I was considering the Nexus 6, but like I say - I think I'll just stick with the Moto X 2014 until the M9 is released.
Edit to add: With the huge difference in picture quality from the Moto X 2014 and the G3 its more than just software that's creating the difference.

Taken inside an olive garden.... I feel like my note 2 was twice as good.

Yeah, that's pretty typical of a Moto X shot indoors
Well, someone has suggested the camera app might make a difference so I'll use the moto one for a bit and see. The focussing seems OK, so the lack of laser focussing isn't doing this. It has to be optics or software.
When looking at this phone, I kept hearing how Moto had listened to users and improved since the first X, so I assumed that would mean it would be OK. But they either lied, or the old X had a horrifically bad camera

tifosi256 said:
Hi All,
I've got my Moto X and I really love it. I previously had a Nexus 5 which I liked, but doesn't have much character compared to the X. The only issue I've got is camera quality. It seems insanely poor (and the N5 wasn't exactly great). One thing I've been doing though is using Google's stock camera app rather than Moto's. Is that a mistake? Is there software optimisation in the Moto camera app which gives better results?
Any other tips and getting the best pics? It's not even just low light. I took a pic on a bright day and the picture was totally washed out (my friend took the same pic on his iphone and it was just another league). All pics just seem to have bad light metering and are very noisy. I've never had this in a phone camera before...
Thanks in advance...
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What are you on about? I find the Moto x rear camera quite decent. The front camera is pathetic in low light conditions, can barely refresh the view finder once a second. But the rear camera is quite good to be honest. Here's a couple of samples I took with it.

manrock said:
What are you on about? I find the Moto x rear camera quite decent. The front camera is pathetic in low light conditions, can barely refresh the view finder once a second. But the rear camera is quite good to be honest. Here's a couple of samples I took with it.
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These two shots were taken within seconds of each other. This is a horrible camera. I love this phone, but this honestly might be a deal breaker for me. Kinda hurts to say that because I fell in love with the device immediately. My only option is a Oneplus and I really don’t want to deal with their dumb ordering process.

TigerDNA said:
These two shots were taken within seconds of each other. This is a horrible camera. I love this phone, but this honestly might be a deal breaker for me. Kinda hurts to say that because I fell in love with the device immediately. My only option is a Oneplus and I really don’t want to deal with their dumb ordering process.
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Maybe installing this will help.. This is a modded version of the stock camera app called Camera+. Loaded with advanced settings. Slide open the settings and click the ladybug icon to access them.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wxa1xu00onp4mwv/MotCamera+_3.3.20.8.apk
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manrock said:
Maybe installing this will help.. This is a modded version of the stock camera app called Camera+. Loaded with advanced settings. Slide open the settings and click the ladybug icon to access them.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wxa1xu00onp4mwv/MotCamera+_3.3.20.8.apk
Happy tinkering
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Well, you've piqued my interest. Is this the thread you grabbed the link from?

Camera sensor is sony??

I read some infos in google but dont know whats sensor comes with turbo/maxx, anyone confirms anything?

Think its the same sony sensor from xperia z3.

prking07 said:
Think its the same sony sensor from xperia z3.
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I think that too but no ones from. Motooola confirmes nothing

matheus_sc said:
I think that too but no ones from. Motooola confirmes nothing
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It is 100% for certain a Sony sensor. It is the same as the Z2 and Z3. Sony has different optics and better camera drivers/software.

The Z2 and Z3 don't have the same sensor.....

thegrants82 said:
The Z2 and Z3 don't have the same sensor.....
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Yes they do and if we want to go further with it, so does the Z1. They differ in optics. Reading material for you:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-review-1135p8.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor
http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-camera-samples-from-the-Motorola-DROID-Turbo_id62258
IMX220
Sony Xperia Z1
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact
Sony Xperia Z2
Sony Xperia Z3
Sony Xperia Z3 Compact
Meizu MX4
Fun fact: The Z3V is the same sensor and optics setup as the Z2.

I'm personally glad it's sony hardware without sony's software post processing

zed011 said:
I'm personally glad it's sony hardware without sony's software post processing
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I'm not, because without that software, photos are still mediocre comparing to those who can get the Z series with the same sensor.
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I read some infos in google but dont know whats sensor comes with turbo/maxx, anyone confirms anything?
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Think its the same sony sensor from xperia z3.
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I think that too but no ones from. Motooola confirmes nothing
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Indeed I was researcing the same some months ago before purchasing the Maxx, and although no one can confirm it, it was obvious for me after I spend a lot of time looking for some information.
First place, the resolution is not so common, so there are no many sensors on the market with it. Second, actual resolution it is 20.7M and not 21M. Often, most of companies just round the numbers up to keep it simple. Third and final one, this camera has no OIS, so for elimination and conclusion, the only sensor that fulfill this specs it is the IMX220.
The other possible option was the IMX230, but it is not released yet as far as I know.
I think there is still plenty of room for improvement, but we have to take in mind that Motorola is really young in image processing software.
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Galaxo60 said:
I'm not, because without that software, photos are still mediocre comparing to those who can get the Z series with the same sensor.
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Are you sure about this? Sony has not been praised for their post processing because it is noisy and grainy.Also the colours are a little washed out compared to the competition and is colder in colour temperature. The ISO is pumped up absurdly high for night shots as well creating noise and artifacts. I have always felt sony's post processing especially in their auto mode is what is holding them back. This doesn't mean nobody can get good shots but when put into perspective by using a competitor's camera side by side it is hard to argue for sony. The shots look good when not being compared to another camera.
Also someone was upset enough to create a petition for them to fix their software.
https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobile-fix-the-camera-software-sony
Sony handheld cameras are great but their mobile division is a different story. I don't think they even work together that's how disjointed that company is.

zed011 said:
Are you sure about this? Sony has not been praised for their post processing because it is noisy and grainy.Also the colours are a little washed out compared to the competition and is colder in colour temperature. The ISO is pumped up absurdly high for night shots as well creating noise and artifacts. I have always felt sony's post processing especially in their auto mode is what is holding them back. This doesn't mean nobody can get good shots but when put into perspective by using a competitor's camera side by side it is hard to argue for sony. The shots look good when not being compared to another camera.
Also someone was upset enough to create a petition for them to fix their software.
https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobile-fix-the-camera-software-sony
Sony handheld cameras are great but their mobile division is a different story. I don't think they even work together that's how disjointed that company is.
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I know 2 persons who had Z series and the pictures were really nice, I mean, I'm not saying that Maxx's camera is bad, but I have seen many times that for a "top" sensor, I'm not getting the quality I should; many times I feel that my Nexus 5 take better pictures.
Also I don't know if this is regarding the resolution I use, because I'm not using the full resolution, I'm using 15.5M (16:9) resolution. Would be nice to know if quality is also determined by this factor.

Have you compared pictures against the Nexus 5?
Like I said for sony and many other phones with good cameras, the pictures look good by themselves. When you really compare and examine the details by taking the same picture and cropping to compare do you really see the differences that you cannot see at a glance as easily.
I have G3 which I will compare it against soon. I have taken a few shots against my 2013 Moto X and without a doubt it is far better in detail and lighting as well as white balance.

Galaxo60 said:
I'm not, because without that software, photos are still mediocre comparing to those who can get the Z series with the same sensor.
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Indeed I was researcing the same some months ago before purchasing the Maxx, and although no one can confirm it, it was obvious for me after I spend a lot of time looking for some information.
First place, the resolution is not so common, so there are no many sensors on the market with it. Second, actual resolution it is 20.7M and not 21M. Often, most of companies just round the numbers up to keep it simple. Third and final one, this camera has no OIS, so for elimination and conclusion, the only sensor that fulfill this specs it is the IMX220.
The other possible option was the IMX230, but it is not released yet as far as I know.
I think there is still plenty of room for improvement, but we have to take in mind that Motorola is really young in image processing software.
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So...the software isn't what makes the camera perform well. It is the sensor, optics and the driver. The sensor and optics aren't our issue, neither is the software. Its the driver. Unfortunately, this isn't a strong field for Motorola and never has been.
Oh and it *is* the 220, same as the Z1,Z2,Z3. There is no question about it.

That was what I meant when saying "software"; sometimes I don't know the precise words.
Anyway, does someone can confirm or deny that changing the resolution from 4:3 to 16:9 would reduce drastically the quality of the photo?.
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Galaxo60 said:
That was what I meant when saying "software"; sometimes I don't know the precise words.
Anyway, does someone can confirm or deny that changing the resolution from 4:3 to 16:9 would reduce drastically the quality of the photo?.
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Not enough to matter IMO.

I can confirm that changing the resolution does not affect the quality of the picture the 16/9 it's just a 4/3 photo cropped
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All is 5248 x 3936 - so most likely it is‼

I dont think câmera is mediocre, here https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157649533856771/

matheus_sc said:
I dont think câmera is mediocre, here https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157649533856771/
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It isn't. The driver is.

Galaxo60 said:
I Third and final one, this camera has no OIS, so for elimination and conclusion, the only sensor that fulfill this specs it is the IMX220.
I think there is still plenty of room for improvement, but we have to take in mind that Motorola is really young in image processing software.
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Google made Motorola put in OIS for the Motorola Nexus 6, since the LG Nexus 5 (based on the excellent LG phones) had it.
I know that's only a 13 MP camera, but I would gladly trade the pixels for OIS. The lack of OIS keeps this phone from being perfect.
My goodness -- 5.2" 1440p/Snapdragon 805/3GB RAM/turbo charging (also like the Nexus 6)/Qi wireless charging (like the Nexus 6, but very important to me as my Nexus 5 had it) . I'm pretty sure the 5.2" Shamu protoype had the 13MP OIS rear camera. Shame Motorola did not keep that.

adrynalyne said:
It isn't. The driver is.
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Not the driver, the post processing.
The camera is great but we don't have any kind of settings to take advantage of it.
Even with third part app the configurations are limited.
I have hope in Lollipop with manual camera. (or i'll sell my Maxx and buy an Xperia again)

VCS forum LG G8 and G8s camera review

G8 and G8s have the highest score in VCS benchmarks. It's a different result than DXO benchmarks.
https://vcx-forum.org/

Yep. Also theirs camera test is explained and it seems more professional than dxomark... Also this explains why my lg v50 took better pics when compared it side by side with iphone 11 pro max, note 10 plus and p 30 pro.
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Its intresting to see the image comparison between 2 phones by dragging the image point area to diffrent locations, at the bottom of page.
https://vcx-forum.org/score/mobiles/lg-v50-thinq
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https://vcx-forum.org/standard/test-environment

Inerent said:
Yep. Also theirs camera test is explained and it seems more professional than dxomark... Also this explains why my lg v50 took better pics when compared it side by side with iphone 11 pro max, note 10 plus and p 30 pro.
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Its intresting to see the image comparison between 2 phones by dragging the image point area to diffrent locations, at the bottom of page.
https://vcx-forum.org/score/mobiles/lg-v50-thinq
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Which camera do you use?

antintin said:
Which camera do you use?
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I have the LG V50 ThinQ...

Inerent said:
I have the LG V50 ThinQ...
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He mostlikelly means the apk, ether stock or gcam

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He mostlikelly means the apk, ether stock or gcam
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I always use stock. Stock lg camera is what 1 millions filmic pros for iPhone are. Best Pro Grade Software. I'm more and more using manual camera for photos and videos. Locking white balancing, setting the ISo to 61-100 when shooting 4k60fps and many many tricks. By far focus peeking is the best feature ever.
I've installed gcam only to play with the marvels ar stickers.

I've been a log-time LG user and I just bought a G8S, following on from my G7. I also bought a Huawei P30 for my daughter, so I've been able to compare the phones side-by-side.
There's a lot to like about the G8S; gorgeous display (although notch is a little large), good size, premium feel, good battery life. Having used the camera on the P30 I realise that LG's cameras leave a lot to be desired, so it was interesting to see how highly the LGs are rated by VCS.
For me the biggest problem with the LGs is colour saturation and white balance. I like nice bright colours, but the colours from the LGs are far too saturated and the white balance (and hence saturation) varies far too much as you change the framing. The same applies to the G7 and the G8S. I noting this outside with fluorescent-looking grass, but it's particularly bad indoors where everything looks too red. I know I can use manual mode, or use different filters, but this isn't necessary with the P30. The camera app the P30 is generally much better than LG's, being more responsive and with better auto mode.
-Mark.

Mark RS said:
I've been a log-time LG user and I just bought a G8S, following on from my G7. I also bought a Huawei P30 for my daughter, so I've been able to compare the phones side-by-side.
There's a lot to like about the G8S; gorgeous display (although notch is a little large), good size, premium feel, good battery life. Having used the camera on the P30 I realise that LG's cameras leave a lot to be desired, so it was interesting to see how highly the LGs are rated by VCS.
For me the biggest problem with the LGs is colour saturation and white balance. I like nice bright colours, but the colours from the LGs are far too saturated and the white balance (and hence saturation) varies far too much as you change the framing. The same applies to the G7 and the G8S. I noting this outside with fluorescent-looking grass, but it's particularly bad indoors where everything looks too red. I know I can use manual mode, or use different filters, but this isn't necessary with the P30. The camera app the P30 is generally much better than LG's, being more responsive and with better auto mode.
-Mark.
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VCS just use a static test with manual mode, good to compare overall lenses and sensor quality, but not camera experience in general!
It's not the best way to test a camera., for example Mi9 has great scores but it lacks OIS...that makes real life night shots a mess.

Hi, Could you guys who have this phone tell me if it supports "Cine video" for all lenses or just for the main one?

Achaemen said:
Hi, Could you guys who have this phone tell me if it supports "Cine video" for all lenses or just for the main one?
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Only with the main lens...G8s
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