i noticed my nexus6 only has 23 gb of the supposed 32gb is this normal?
Yes, the OS and any other files you add take up space. Most seem to have a bit over 24gb out of the box.
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if i would have known this i would have gotten the 64 gb.
maddoggin said:
if i would have known this i would have gotten the 64 gb.
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...you have never noticed that in all the years of computing that blank drive space advertised and formatted usable space in an OS are two entirely different things across all platforms?
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...you have never noticed that in all the years of computing that blank drive space advertised and formatted usable space in an OS are two entirely different things across all platforms?
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lol of course i did! but not by 9gb! 3 or 4 was what it was on my nexus 5 with kitkat but a 9gb difference is huge! plus i guess i never used twrp before eaither and those backups take up to 3 gb after like 4 or 5 different backups and a few videos i ran out of space. never had that happen to me before on my nexus 5
Actually you should have 25.98GBs. You need to format cache and user data to regain it. Might as well just flash all to a clean slate.
maddoggin said:
lol of course i did! but not by 9gb! 3 or 4 was what it was on my nexus 5 with kitkat but a 9gb difference is huge! plus i guess i never used twrp before eaither and those backups take up to 3 gb after like 4 or 5 different backups and a few videos i ran out of space. never had that happen to me before on my nexus 5
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Formatting any device usually consumes 10% of the rated unformatted space. Been like that forever. This is a proportion not a set value
Beyond that ART cache takes up twice the space that Calvin does in exchange for higher speed. Been known since ART was available to play with on KK
ldkud50 said:
Actually you should have 25.98GBs. You need to format cache and user data to regain it. Might as well just flash all to a clean slate.
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the flash-all.sh doesnt work on lollipop, at least not for me. unless you know of a fix i dont! ive had to manually flash all images
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Formatting any device usually consumes 10% of the rated unformatted space. Been like that forever. This is a proportion not a set value
Beyond that ART cache takes up twice the space that Calvin does in exchange for higher speed. Been known since ART was available to play with on KK
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never used art on kitkat and if i did i didnt notice the difference in storage. as ive said tho i have never had the issue of running out of space on my n5. or my n4 or my galaxy nexus
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the flash-all.sh doesnt work on lollipop, at least not for me. unless you know of a fix i dont! ive had to manually flash all images
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That's actually what I meant. Just have the latest Fastboot and flash each *.img.
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That's actually what I meant. Just have the latest Fastboot and flash each *.img.
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yeah i did that and ended up with 23 gb, did you fastboot format system and data first? i didnt, i just fastboot flashed all images including userdata.img and cache.img and after i went to all the login stuff i went straight to settings and checked storgae. 23gb
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yeah i did that and ended up with 23 gb, did you fastboot format system and data first? i didnt, i just fastboot flashed all images including userdata.img and cache.img and after i went to all the login stuff i went straight to settings and checked storgae. 23gb
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I just formatted cache and userdata when I had 23GBs, but I've also flashed all other partitions since. For whatever reason it's some weird glitch. I would just wipe cache and userdata and check it out. I know it a big pain to keep having to download everything over and over.
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I just formatted cache and userdata when I had 23GBs, but I've also flashed all other partitions since. For whatever reason it's some weird glitch. I would just wipe cache and userdata and check it out. I know it a big pain to keep having to download everything over and over.
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you think formatting data and cache on twrp will work?
maddoggin said:
you think formatting data and cache on twrp will work?
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Not sure, you got nothing to lose. Either way your restoring stuff.
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Is it possible to flash Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions and then flash a Nand backup instead of flashing the rom and starting from scratch???
I'm thinking of using Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions but i dont want to go through the hassle of reinstalling all my apps and restoring all my setting to what they currently are.
I'm running aospCMod 2.3.3 GB (3/26/'11) on CDMA Hero
thanks for any help and responses!
Restoring your nand backup with standard partitions won't work after creating firerat's custom partitions. I don't think they will, anyway. You can try it. More than likely the nandroid restore won't work (might tell you there's not enough space in one of the partitions) or it won't fully boot, and you'll have to start from scratch.
Titanium Backup makes this process pretty painless, minus the clicking install, install, install... it even saves app settings and preserves Market links.
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Is it possible to flash Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions and then flash a Nand backup instead of flashing the rom and starting from scratch???
I'm thinking of using Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions but i dont want to go through the hassle of reinstalling all my apps and restoring all my setting to what they currently are.
I'm running aospCMod 2.3.3 GB (3/26/'11) on CDMA Hero
thanks for any help and responses!
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You can restore a nand backup if the new partitions have enough space. I will do this if I'm shrinking my system partition to accommodate a smaller ROM that I had already flashed. I haven't noticed any issue when doing it. Just follow the steps, and make sure your partitions are in line with what you need.
thanks for your reply!
I'll wait till a new realease of aospCMod is out then i'll try it out.
illdourmum said:
thanks for your reply!
I'll wait till a new realease of aospCMod is out then i'll try it out.
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No problem. I'm running aospCMod. I had my partitions set at 130 10. I set them a bit conservative to allow for all the updates that were coming out. Since we haven't gotten an update since 3/26, and I was suffering serious flash withdrawals, I nanded my 3/26 install, then reflashed new partitions of 90 4, then restored my back up. 90 4 is still a bit conservative, and you can probably go to 72 2 depending on the size of the GAAPs and tweaks you flash with the rom.
Enjoy the mod, the increased data size is incredible.
illdourmum said:
Is it possible to flash Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions and then flash a Nand backup instead of flashing the rom and starting from scratch???
I'm thinking of using Firerat's Custom MTD Partitions but i dont want to go through the hassle of reinstalling all my apps and restoring all my setting to what they currently are.
I'm running aospCMod 2.3.3 GB (3/26/'11) on CDMA Hero
thanks for any help and responses!
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And just a word of warning make sure you have atleast a class 6 sd card. Someone told me itll work with any class (i had a class 2) and eventually re flashing the MTD boot killed my sd card. Soooo just throwing my 2 cents out there. Its a great method though =]
Sounds like a bad SD card or something, mod has (or shouldn't..) absolutely no effect on your card at all.
stayclean said:
Sounds like a bad SD card or something, mod has (or shouldn't..) absolutely no effect on your card at all.
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Really now? Cause i heard it could effect that.
Which doesnt make sense cause it uses internel space. I guess Partioting would effect it but thats different. Perhaps youre right. Ill look into it =]
The OP of the Firerat thread explains what it does even. Doesn't do anything to the sd card. Or shouldn't. Have used it many times since the summer with absolutely no ill effect.
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The OP of the Firerat thread explains what it does even. Doesn't do anything to the sd card. Or shouldn't. Have used it many times since the summer with absolutely no ill effect.
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Ill give you a thanks on your meter man, i appreciate taking the time for noobs =]
808Bill said:
No problem. I'm running aospCMod. I had my partitions set at 130 10. I set them a bit conservative to allow for all the updates that were coming out. Since we haven't gotten an update since 3/26, and I was suffering serious flash withdrawals, I nanded my 3/26 install, then reflashed new partitions of 90 4, then restored my back up. 90 4 is still a bit conservative, and you can probably go to 72 2 depending on the size of the GAAPs and tweaks you flash with the rom.
Enjoy the mod, the increased data size is incredible.
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What do the numbers in the text file mean? mine is set to the OP settings of "102 2".
illdourmum said:
What do the numbers in the text file mean? mine is set to the OP settings of "102 2".
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The first number specifies the size (in MB) to make the system partition. The second number specifies the size (in MB) to make the cache partition. Taking into account the size of all other partitions (bootloader, boot, recovery, misc), any leftover space after that is pushed into the data partition.
So your resulting data partition will be (The default size of the data partition + the size shrunk from the system partition + the size shrunk from the cache partition).
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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So I made a Nand Backup, Flashed FR's Mod 1.5.3 set to 105 5, then restored the Nand and flashed the FR_boot.zip and it WORKED!!!
this is AMAZING... now i have a total of 368MB of internal memory (233MB free)
Thanks for the help guys!!!!
I just joined the firerat bandwagon, it's kinda cool
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The first number specifies the size (in MB) to make the system partition. The second number specifies the size (in MB) to make the cache partition. Taking into account the size of all other partitions (bootloader, boot, recovery, misc), any leftover space after that is pushed into the data partition.
So your resulting data partition will be (The default size of the data partition + the size shrunk from the system partition + the size shrunk from the cache partition).
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In your opinion should i leave those number as they are, or isthere a benefit by changing them. Especially if i dont know exactly what changing those numbers would do haha
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In your opinion should i leave those number as they are, or isthere a benefit by changing them. Especially if i dont know exactly what changing those numbers would do haha
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what i did to determine the numbers was check the size of /system in my latest Nand backup and gave it some extra head room.
i may change it again to a larger number as i feel that i didnt provide enough of this "head room" for /system
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what i did to determine the numbers was check the size of /system in my latest Nand backup and gave it some extra head room.
i may change it again to a larger number as i feel that i didnt provide enough of this "head room" for /system
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cool man, ill probably fiddle with it myself. If you come to good Partioning size, please do tell. id be curious to know what you use =]
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cool man, ill probably fiddle with it myself. If you come to good Partioning size, please do tell. id be curious to know what you use =]
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once i get home from school, i'll be playing around with the settings some more. i'll let you know what happens. but i would suggest you take a second opinion as i'm just a novice at this and just jumped on the FireRat's Mod bandwagon myself.
Oh of course. ive been using for about a month maybe? i just like everyones views and different experiences
wipe cache THEN make backup. profit!
YMMV depends on how many apps you have installed. universal; no reason this wouldn't save space on any given other phone.
Honestly brilliant. Lol
no need to use precious space when your phone will generate the data in a minute :cyclops:
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no need to use precious space when your phone will generate the data in a minute :cyclops:
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Yea, but you still lose app cache data so you may have to redo certain things
I have a 64gb SD, so space isn't an issue. I rather have the extra 150mb taken up and have my system restored exactly to the point it was backed up as
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eyecon82 said:
Yea, but you still lose app cache data so you may have to redo certain things
I have a 64gb SD, so space isn't an issue. I rather have the extra 150mb taken up and have my system restored exactly to the point it was backed up as
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incorrect
/cache doesn't store any settings / preferences / saves. that's all done in /data and /sdcard
Sterist said:
wipe cache THEN make backup. profit!
YMMV depends on how many apps you have installed. universal; no reason this wouldn't save space on any given other phone.
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That is a seriously helpful tip. I have a 32 GB card and I only have 8 GB left from all the NANDROID backups and ROMs.
Learn something everyday. Thanks!
Hello Everyone
I rooted and already have my phone the way I want it but I've noticed that when you do the full wipe
theres like 7 gigs of space missing. I was wondering if anyone was able to at least get most of their space back when they wipe the phone
if so how can i do it?
I currently running the Rage Rom thinking of going back to Ecliptic ONE
and i have TWRP recovery
any ideas will be appretiated thanks
Have you made any backups?
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Have you made any backups?
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I made a back up but i deleted it unless theres another back up am missing somewhere?
how much space you supposed to have after the full wipe?
I recently did a full wipe and it was like 6.x gigs right off the bat. It boggles the mind, considering there are phones out there that have only that much total capacity.
Wtf htc.
Does anyone know how much space AOSP roms take? I'm switching once the installer comes out.
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I recently did a full wipe and it was like 6.x gigs right off the bat. It boggles the mind, considering there are phones out there that have only that much total capacity.
Wtf htc.
Does anyone know how much space AOSP roms take? I'm switching once the installer comes out.
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AOSP ROMs are typically around 120-150 Megs zipped, sense ROM go.from 700 to a little over 900 MB's zipped.
https://vzwsupport.jive-mobile.com/#jive-discussion?content=/api/core/v2/discussions/804286
It's only 25 GB available left. :-[
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AOSP ROMs are typically around 120-150 Megs zipped, sense ROM go.from 700 to a little over 900 MB's zipped.
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Right, but I'm asking for how much CM takes after installation and clean wipe. I'm not sure how compression works, so this may be wrong, but if I set up a proportion (I'm almost sure you can't do that), CM comes to 1.5 gigs installed (205meg for 10.2 zipped), which seems more reasonable.
It really sucks that I have to keep clearing out stuff because I start with only like 25 gigs of space rather than 31.5.
Can somebody who has 10.2 installed comment?
if its off a fresh boot, it's because of all the apps that prolly installed to the internal sd got erased, thats why you had more space, and still have your files and stuff
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if its off a fresh boot, it's because of all the apps that prolly installed to the internal sd got erased, thats why you had more space, and still have your files and stuff
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I (tried to) delete ALL data from my phone and it was still 7 gigs.
Got this explanation from another site.
The 32GB are in 1000Byte = 1KB Logic, and the 25GB should be in Binary Logic, so 1024Byte = 1KB. which gives at first a "loss" of about 2GB: 32GB = 29,8023GiB
the rest of the space is mostly the android system, reserved space for cache etc... one small part will be the journal of the ext file sytstem which is used instead of yaffs. So arround 200-400MB i think will be covered by the ext journal.
you have the same problem with harddisks too. The firms write it in decimal logic but the operating system does it in binary. Some Operating Systems nowadays also write the correct GiB or MiB or KiB but not all...[\quote]
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use a file explorer and go back as far as you can. Check /data/media. if you've ever flashed a 4.2 rom it moves all your files around and it gets confusing.
If that doesn't find it, download Diskusage. it could help you out.
I was clearing up stuff on my phone the other day and I noticed that my other storage is just under 15GB, which is almost half of my total capacity and leaves me with just about no space left.
(as I can't post pictures)
it's 1.25GB apps, 6.04GB music, 2.63GB pictures, 3.34GB Downloads, 14.70GB Other, leaving me with only 4.04GB left to spare.
I used the SD Card Analysis in ES File Explorer and it doesn't help me find the problem.
I'm running ViperOne 7.0.1, with the ElementalX kernal, and I'm on Sense 6.0
Can anyone help me find out what's actually causing 15GB to be used up? As I want to put like another few gigs of music on but I can't.
Thanks in advance.
ByKAyy said:
I was clearing up stuff on my phone the other day and I noticed that my other storage is just under 15GB, which is almost half of my total capacity and leaves me with just about no space left.
(as I can't post pictures)
it's 1.25GB apps, 6.04GB music, 2.63GB pictures, 3.34GB Downloads, 14.70GB Other, leaving me with only 4.04GB left to spare.
I used the SD Card Analysis in ES File Explorer and it doesn't help me find the problem.
I'm running ViperOne 7.0.1, with the ElementalX kernal, and I'm on Sense 6.0
Can anyone help me find out what's actually causing 15GB to be used up? As I want to put like another few gigs of music on but I can't.
Thanks in advance.
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maybe some nandroid backups stored on your phone?
alray said:
maybe some nandroid backups stored on your phone?
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I don't have any of them.
ByKAyy said:
I don't have any of them.
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is formatting your device and starting over with a fresh install an option? You could just wipe everything + format data then push and flash viper + elementalX again.
alray said:
is formatting your device and starting over with a fresh install an option? You could just wipe everything + format data then push and flash viper + elementalX again.
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I did a factory wipe this morning and was on stock even on stock it was at 15GB
ByKAyy said:
I did a factory wipe this morning and was on stock even on stock it was at 15GB
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Custom recovery > partitions > wipe data partition... ?
^^^ like SaHiLzZ said, format data
ByKAyy said:
I did a factory wipe this morning and was on stock even on stock it was at 15GB
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factory reset only wipe user data while format data will erase everything on /data partition.
Hi, I flashed a CM12 nightly and it seems my storage is somewhat messed up. I've wiped everything and yet my total space still reads 24.22gb. I know I won't have all of the space, but I would think CM would leave me more total storage space. Help please?
PieceofSlice said:
Hi, I flashed a CM12 nightly and it seems my storage is somewhat messed up. I've wiped everything and yet my total space still reads 24.22gb. I know I won't have all of the space, but I would think CM would leave me more total storage space. Help please?
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Nah about 6-7gb is reserved for the system. You're fine.
Hmm, I knew that goes for TW but I didn't think CM. Does it just not display the 'system' in storage settings? What are the 6-7gb for?
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Hmm, I knew that goes for TW but I didn't think CM. Does it just not display the 'system' in storage settings? What are the 6-7gb for?
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Yes that's correct it's not shown in cm.
The system partition size can't be changed unless you format and repartition your phone. The 6-7gb is the default amount of space set aside for the system partition in all note 4s.
It's somewhat self explanatory, but it's where your system files & rom are held
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Yes that's correct it's not shown in cm.
The system partition size can't be changed unless you format and repartition your phone. The 6-7gb is the default amount of space set aside for the system partition in all note 4s.
It's somewhat self explanatory, but it's where your system files & rom are held
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Alright thanks, that makes cents. So then basically there will always be the 6-7gb of system storage no matter what? I don't think my Note 3 had this big of a system partition on CM12, though I may be wrong. Just wondering, do all ROMs use the 6-7gb of system? What if I tried an unofficial CM build?
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Alright thanks, that makes cents. So then basically there will always be the 6-7gb of system storage no matter what? I don't think my Note 3 had this big of a system partition on CM12, though I may be wrong. Just wondering, do all ROMs use the 6-7gb of system? What if I tried an unofficial CM build?
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Yeah you can't change the size unfortunately, but no most roms do not take up the entire 6+gb. My note 2 only has something like 4gb system partition. I think because these are bigger devices and the stock roms have more features, the note 4 required a bigger system partition. Now, while zipped, most roms are between 700mb-1.5gb, but once extracted into the system partition they take up quite a bit more space.
Cm roms do take up less space, but you can't really use the remaining system partition space for anything else.
However, it's nice to have extra space on the system partition so you can flash mods and whatnot
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Yes that's correct it's not shown in cm.
The system partition size can't be changed unless you format and repartition your phone. The 6-7gb is the default amount of space set aside for the system partition in all note 4s.
It's somewhat self explanatory, but it's where your system files & rom are held
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Yeah you can't change the size unfortunately, but no most roms do not take up the entire 6+gb. My note 2 only has something like 4gb system partition. I think because these are bigger devices and the stock roms have more features, the note 4 required a bigger system partition. Now, while zipped, most roms are between 700mb-1.5gb, but once extracted into the system partition they take up quite a bit more space.
Cm roms do take up less space, but you can't really use the remaining system partition space for anything else.
However, it's nice to have extra space on the system partition so you can flash mods and whatnot
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Okay, thank you. Really appreciate the detail Just checked my Note 3 and it has 25.64gb of 'Total Space' on CM12. I guess I just never realized it on then. So pretty much all Note 4s, no matter what, have about 6-7gb of reserved space...