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Stumbled across this nice little app called "Itching Thumb" (Link goes to android zoom for overview http://tinyurl.com/29p9g8x)
It is a task manager that looks like the "card view" that some maybe familiar with from Palm.
It looks nice, runs smooth. been installed for a couple hours, no FC's. Thought others would like to know of this.
I tried this and really liked it. The one thing I couldn't stand was when you hit home from any app, it would take an extra second or two and show a black screen in order to create the screenshot for Itching Thumb. Annoying.
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I tried this and really liked it. The one thing I couldn't stand was when you hit home from any app, it would take an extra second or two and show a black screen in order to create the screenshot for Itching Thumb. Annoying.
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ya i saw this last night and decided to give it a try. it has a LOT of potential, but im gonna wait for it to be a little bit more polished. i also wish you could get it to work by long pressing home somehow so if you have it, it actually does replace the stock one. (unless i was missing something and you can long press home with it somehow)
Wish it had the flick to end apps like on webOS though. I'm sticking with powerstrip app. It was money well spent
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igbo_scouser said:
Wish it had the flick to end apps like on webOS though. I'm sticking with powerstrip app. It was money well spent
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This actually does the flick to end.
It would be nice to have it hit on a long press. All who use should msg the developer to see that added in a further build. Once more bugs are ironed out, I would totally pay for this. Its pretty solid so far. just minor kinks
Many people, including me, were trying to use pie control (LMT) with no soft keys. You can turn off the soft keys by putting this line at the bottom of your build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
But if you tried to use LMT the menu and back button did not work. BUT if you use the new faux kernel both will work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509655
Download for LMT:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
Now you can enjoy full screen!
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JPOKeefe said:
Many people, including me, were trying to use pie control (LMT) with no soft keys. You can turn off the soft keys by putting this line at the bottom of your build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
But if you tried to use LMT the menu and back button did not work. BUT if you use the new faux kernel both will work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509655
Download for LMT:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
Now you can enjoy full screen!
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Fyi: I also posted now a test version (v2.0 RC4) in the lmt thread which is compatible with Android 4.4/stock kernel.
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I guess I'm crazy but I like the onscreen navigation buttons. Glad to see there are solutions in the works for those that don't, though; gotta love Nexus.
Glad there is a way to get rid of the on screen buttons...I cant stand them taking up space on the screen.
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i think PIE controls are a lot more valuable in a tablet setting, in that you're not constantly receiving notifications for stuff and the extra real estate is nice. however, i don't know how much i'll actually be using it on the phone, especially given kit kat's new abilities to go full screen already in a lot of apps, and the often transparent menus anyway. also, the N5 is tall enough already, i don't feel like the navigation bar takes up all that much space, especially when compared to a tablet in landscape where it runs across the entire bottom
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i think PIE controls are a lot more valuable in a tablet setting, in that you're not constantly receiving notifications for stuff and the extra real estate is nice. however, i don't know how much i'll actually be using it on the phone, especially given kit kat's new abilities to go full screen already in a lot of apps, and the often transparent menus anyway. also, the N5 is tall enough already, i don't feel like the navigation bar takes up all that much space, especially when compared to a tablet in landscape where it runs across the entire bottom
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What apps can go full screen exactly ?
It won't go full screen in games as far as I know and that's when I need a full screen the most.
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What apps can go full screen exactly ?
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not a lot yet, but i imagine a lot more apps will do something to similar to google now with the clear nav/notification bars allowing you to see content full screen
yahoo weather hides the notification bar, they could update to clear out the nav bar instead of black
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i think PIE controls are a lot more valuable in a tablet setting, in that you're not constantly receiving notifications for stuff and the extra real estate is nice. however, i don't know how much i'll actually be using it on the phone, especially given kit kat's new abilities to go full screen already in a lot of apps, and the often transparent menus anyway. also, the N5 is tall enough already, i don't feel like the navigation bar takes up all that much space, especially when compared to a tablet in landscape where it runs across the entire bottom
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For me, I enjoy using Tab UI on my phone (coming from a N4). It gives a lot of screen real estate back while still retaining functionality and ease of use. I can't wait for a rom to have Tab UI. Honestly, I'm still using my N4 because of this. I have to agree though, I can't stand PIE on my phone either. There's too much going on and swipes often do something you don't want them to do. I always feel like I want to see time or batt % too. I might do PIE just so I can get rid of the stupid phone nav bar though. Almost an inch of vertical space is gone for no reason.
Thank you for sharing !
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i think PIE controls are a lot more valuable in a tablet setting, in that you're not constantly receiving notifications for stuff and the extra real estate is nice. however, i don't know how much i'll actually be using it on the phone, especially given kit kat's new abilities to go full screen already in a lot of apps, and the often transparent menus anyway. also, the N5 is tall enough already, i don't feel like the navigation bar takes up all that much space, especially when compared to a tablet in landscape where it runs across the entire bottom
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This is such a great solution, enjoying my true 1080p in full glory. I've been using this since getting Nexus 4. The new KitKat feature to go 'immersive' has to be supported by newer versions of apps. And even then it requires more swipes & taps to use. PIE LMT navigation is 1 swipe and system wide. I just reduce the activation area so it doesn't trigger on accidental edge swipes, and it has to be from edge towards center direction (an important feature other similar implementations miss). Here's a direct link to the post for the LMT Pie v2 that works on Nexus 5 KitKat.
Coming from the Nexus 4, which I loved and Jelly Bean, I just received my Nexus 5 yesterday and have some disappointments. Let me know if you guys agree and if I'm overlooking anything and can fix.
1 FIXED - Ok, Google sucks at making home screen launchers, apparently. I have to use an aftermarket app for my home screen) I LOVE Google Now. I used it quite a bit on my Nexus 4 by holding the home button and swiping up. Now they made it so Google Now is locked on the left side. WTF? I loved having my "home" screen in the middle, with two screens on the left and two on the right. I had a Trip It widget and Keep widget on the left, each on their own screen. I had some other often used apps on the right and my Calendar widget each on their own on the right. No screen was more than two swipes away. Now I have to swipe 4 screens to the right to get to my last one. That sucks. I can turn Google Now off to get my screens back, but then I don't have Google Now at all. This sucks, Google. What are you thinking?
2) I thought it made total sense to have the Play Store link right above the apps in the app drawer. When someone would ask, "do you have XXXX app?" I'd look and if I didn't, I could touch right there to enter the Play Store and download. Now, I have to scroll to find the Play Store app icon. Or put it on one of my screens. This seems like they're going backward here. Why remove that? To make it prettier? Aesthetics over functionality.
3 FIXED!) I love talking to my phone and used voice to text quite often. Now when I go to text someone, I can't see the mic anywhere on the keyboard. Really? Why did they rearrange the keyboard and remove this? Oh, now I get all these cute smiley faces and crap I'll NEVER use, but the mic is gone. Why?
4) Speaking of rearranged keyboard layouts, why change it up? I was pretty used to my Jelly Bean keyboard. Now they rearranged the exclamation point to the other side. And maybe others. I can't recall exactly until I start texting and hit a wrong key, pressing something which used to be another symbol. I'll eventually get used to that, but why change it? It was fine as it was.
5) HUGE icons. Why? To look my iPhone(ish)? Jelly Bean had 5 rows of 5. Now we get huge icons and 5 rows of 4. Not a huge deal, but if you have a bunch of apps, it takes longer to scroll through them all and you can't fit as many of your most used on one screen.
6) I love the home screen rotate on my Nexus 7. Google never thought to add this to the Nexus 4. And now it's not on the Nexus 5 either. I've used an app called "Rotate" to perform this and loved it, but now that Kit Kat extends the background to show behind the toolbars (which I love the look of, by the way), when I use "Rotate" to flip the home screen when I hold the phone horizontally, that black bar shows on the right. Again, not a huge problem here and maybe Rotate will update to a Kit Kat compatible version, but why doesn't Google add this functionality out of the box for its Nexus phones when they do it for the Nexus 7?
7) The notification sounds seem even quieter than the Nexus 4, which wasn't the loudest ever. I always turn vibrate on text OFF so when I'm texting back and forth, it's not unnecessarily wasting battery. But in doing so, I could most times hear my Nexus 4 chime when in my pocket. Not with the 5. I find myself pulling it out of my pocket every 15 mins to see if I missed any calls, emails or texts. I guess I'll have to turn on the notification vibration and sacrifice battery life, but that's lame.
If I'm overlooking anything which fixes any of these, please advise!
Oh well.
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I have similar disappointments. Mainly the lack of the store in the top of the app drawer.
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3) I love talking to my phone and used voice to text quite often. Now when I go to text someone, I can't see the mic anywhere on the keyboard. Really? Why did they rearrange the keyboard and remove this? Oh, now I get all these cute smiley faces and crap I'll NEVER use, but the mic is gone. Why?
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The mic is there, I've just double checked on my nexus 5.
Are you sure you didn't disable it yourself in input settings ?
It seems like people are just trying to find things to complain about now.
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That's what I was hoping I did by accident, but I can't see where I would have. In settings > language & input > google keyboard settings, I have the
"voice input key" checked. I assumed that's what I need. I unchecked it, looked and the mic wasn't there. I re-checked it, looked and the mic isn't there. What am I overlooking?
jodvova said:
The mic is there, I've just double checked on my nexus 5.
Are you sure you didn't disable it yourself in input settings ?
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jodvova said:
The mic is there, I've just double checked on my nexus 5.
Are you sure you didn't disable it yourself in input settings ?
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Yep, it's there. Make sure "Google voice typing" is checked under language and input
EDIT: Don't click on Google keyboard, look down a few and check Google voice typing
I seriously don't want to man. I loved the Nexus 4 and was SO excited with this. But when you're used to things and they change for the worse (my opinion, things that are USEFUL to me), it's more than annoying, it's a real issue. 1, 2, 3 and 7 are all big deals to me. 1 - It makes the phone less simple. Most actions needed to get to what I use. 2 - same as 1, more steps needed to get to the Play Store. 3 - hopefully I'm overlooking something, but speaking my texts to my phone saved me A LOT of texting time. 7 - a ****ty speaker means I can't hear maps directions and have to look down at my phone more. That's not something I'm just trying to find an issue with, it's a real issue.
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It seems like people are just trying to find things to complain about now.
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Hell yeah. Thanks bro. I don't know how I overlooked that. Ok, that's one problem down! Fixes for the others, guys?
P.S. - This 5 minute between posts thing for new users blows. Verify me, mods.
Synyster06Gates said:
Yep, it's there. Make sure "Google voice typing" is checked under language and input
EDIT: Don't click on Google keyboard, look down a few and check Google voice typing
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torranceeric said:
Hell yeah. Thanks bro. I don't know how I overlooked that. Ok, that's one problem down! Fixes for the others, guys?
P.S. - This 5 minute between posts thing for new users blows. Verify me, mods.
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As for the speaker - I'm not sure what the complaints are about. It blows away my S3's and every other phone I've had...
Another one of these threads....#2 really? This is something to complain about.
I don't use Samsung products because I hate Touch Wiz and all the other bloatware on it. Yeah, I know it can be unlocked and modded, but I don't get into all of that. I came from an EVO 4G and liked it a lot, but once I got my Nexus 4, I could never go back to a phone with HTC Sense. The speaker was far better on the EVO though than the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 5, to me, seems even quieter.
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As for the speaker - I'm not sure what the complaints are about. It blows away my S3's and every other phone I've had...
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torranceeric said:
Hell yeah. Thanks bro. I don't know how I overlooked that. Ok, that's one problem down! Fixes for the others, guys?
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I kinda do agree with you on 1). I felt uncomfortable when first started to use Nexus 5 because I had a similar screens setup to yours on S4.
But I've changed my habits pretty quickly. Although I'm only using Calendar widget that occupies whole screen and one more screen (apart from home) for apps.
Why can't you just change your launcher and swipe up to open Google now.
These complaints are seriously getting out of control. Android is about options. If you don't like the way something acts, use something else. If you don't like the keyboard, use another one!
Yep. It's going backward in features. That was useful as hell. If you never used it, ok, but give me something to make things easier, I get used to it and dig it. Take it away and I'm annoyed. Why take it away? It reminds me of the "new" Google Maps. They took away a few features that I LOVED.
I'm tied into Google. I use a lot of their offerings. But I'm not going to blindly defend everything they throw out, I'm going to honestly say what I like and dislike.
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Another one of these threads....#2 really? This is something to complain about.
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[email protected] said:
Why can't you just change your launcher and swipe up to open Google now.
These complaints are seriously getting out of control. Android is about options. If you don't like the way something acts, use something else. If you don't like the keyboard, use another one!
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This. FFS stop complaining. Before long people are gonna start saying you're apple fan boys posting to start drama.
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Can I have your Nexus 5 then?
Cool, suggest something for me, please. I don't like screwing with things too much, I like vanilla Android as Google intended. But I liked Jelly Bean Android. Kit Kat feels less intuitive. I know Android is all about the ability to be free and have different choices, but the reason I got rid of my HTC EVO was because I hate skins and crap on my Android. I just want it plain and yummy. If there's an alternative launcher that looks just like Jelly Bean, sweet, I'm all in. I just don't want it to give completely different functionality in other ways.
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Why can't you just change your launcher and swipe up to open Google now.
These complaints are seriously getting out of control. Android is about options. If you don't like the way something acts, use something else.
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Cool, suggest something for me, please. I don't like screwing with things too much, I like vanilla Android as Google intended. But I liked Jelly Bean Android. Kit Kat feels less intuitive. I know Android is all about the ability to be free and have different choices, but the reason I got rid of my HTC EVO was because I hate skins and crap on my Android. I just want it plain and yummy. If there's an alternative launcher that looks just like Jelly Bean, sweet, I'm all in. I just don't want it to give completely different functionality in other ways.
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Nova Launcher
I'm actually considering going back to my Nexus 4 and selling this. Obviously, I won't be jumping to Kit Kat when it's available on the N4.
But this is why I post - maybe there are fixes.
And guys, aren't these forums about helping? No, I don't use Apple products. Nothing against 'em, but I'm tied into Google and don't care to switch. I just loved most everything about my Nexus 4 and was hoping to love the 5 even more.
M4dRefluX said:
Can I have your Nexus 5 then?
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Hey folks,
I thought it would be interesting to see whether the Glass Home launcher and its companion apps would work on the Gear - FYI the APKs I'm playing with are the XE7 ones at zhuowei's github site, although I note that Google have now posted the XE11 image at developers.google.com/glass/tools-downloads/system
I was pleasantly surprised to find that the launcher loaded up, recognised my "ok glass" voice command, and managed to go off and do the right thing when I asked it to "google how tall is the eiffel tower?"
However it seems to be unhappy about a few things (lots of FCs) - in particular the lack of WiFi on the Gear, believing that the device is offline even when it's actually tethered to my phone via Bluetooth, and the camera didn't work for me.
Anyone else got "Glass on Gear" experiences to share?
Cheers,
Martin
Good idea. Will be interesting to find out what needs to done
I do however feel my watch is a lot more useful than Glass (apart from lack of gps/wifi)
Provide some links I want to see this launcher etc.
Sorry, I'm a newbie so my ability to post links is somewhat limited. Let's see if this works... github.com/zhuowei/Xenologer
I think it's going to be a great way of getting a forward look at what to expect with Glass - and the Nexus watch And heck, we may well have the proper Glass SDK before Samsung release one for the Gear...
The UI is reasonably navigable using voice and swiping the touch screen. The Glass fonts work well on the small screen size, unlike say stock Android apps running under Nova or the Google Experience Launcher. Glass Home doesn't know about your non-Glass apps, though, which is understandable if a little disappointing.
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I think it's going to be a great way of getting a forward look at what to expect with Glass - and the Nexus watch And heck, we may well have the proper Glass SDK before Samsung release one for the Gear...
The UI is reasonably navigable using voice and swiping the touch screen. The Glass fonts work well on the small screen size, unlike say stock Android apps running under Nova or the Google Experience Launcher. Glass Home doesn't know about your non-Glass apps, though, which is understandable if a little disappointing.
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Quite interesting.. Im interested mainly in the contacts app.. Going to give it a whirl.
EDIT: Sadly didnt work as I hoped, no launcher icon.. when I manually run the intent just crashes.. BOO !
The launcher on the otherhand could be interesting.,,
Contact handling on glass is weird. You need contacts in your gmail account, then need to add individual contact to glass manually via app/website
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Contact handling on glass is weird. You need contacts in your gmail account, then need to add individual contact to glass manually via app/website
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Oh.. Yikes.
Staying away from that !
I'm working on poking through the Glass launcher and companion files to see if I can find anything. I tried to change the DPI so all of the text fits on the display because it cuts off most of the text, but it doesn't seem to cooperate.
Video demo of Glass on Gear
And here's a nice little video (1 minute) that I made demonstrating the Glass launcher on the Gear:
You can also read a bit more about my experiences hacking around on the Galaxy Gear on my blog at martinh dot net.
Happy hacking!
That is awesome.
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And here's a nice little video (1 minute) that I made demonstrating the Glass launcher on the Gear:
You can also read a bit more about my experiences hacking around on the Galaxy Gear on my blog at martinh dot net.
Happy hacking!
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263 views 2 likes? How is this not blowing up?
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263 views 2 likes? How is this not blowing up?
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The idea is excellent, although there's other factors to consider.. tethering always being active is going to be a battery drainer, along with the launcher constantly listening for commands..
Interesting thread... Looking forward to more updates on this... If I can get Google Now to work on this device paired without rooting the phone, Google Glass sounds pretty darn cool
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It's also a bit clunky in that you have to swipe down to go back to the "ok glass" prompt, unless there is a voice shortcut that I've missed. It would be great to go totally handsfree with this, but shaking your wrist doesn't have an analogous effect to nodding your head when wearing Glass.
Oh, and the Bluetooth tethering is a bit flaky and tends to come unstuck after you have done three or four searches - going to look into the automatic reconnection thread when I get a few spare cycles
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Interesting thread... Looking forward to more updates on this... If I can get Google Now to work on this device paired without rooting the phone, Google Glass sounds pretty darn cool
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You can run the Google Experience Launcher from Kit-Kat, which will give you the "leftmost home screen is Google Now" feature. If you choose US language and download the offline speech recognition pack then you should find that the mic is permanently active too
Does that still allow me to get notifications pushed to the watch?
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I am going to be testing glass with a bare bones rom now. Hopefully it will be nice
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Cant get it to work at all
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Nice work!
The only way to go back using glass is to swipe down
Sounds like motion sensors are handled differently on each device (possibly Samsung propriety on the gear?)
What settings are shown in the settings screen? Is it only 'google' phrase that works? I think take picture and record are default on glass without need for app. Contact related stuff requires adding manually via app
I have read people disregarding the need for Lollipop to provide a built in one handed operation, because the market already has 1 hand operation apps.
The only ones I found were from 2012 on Google Play, and they had terrrrible ratings.
Does anyone have suggestions for getting one handed operation for most apps ?
I heard LG G3 and Samsung Note 4 and S5 have similar apps. Is there a port of these features ?
Thanks,
Gary
It depends on what are you looking to accomplish. Typing? There are keyboards out there that can be resized, like Swiftkey for example. Very recently updated and has great ratings. There are other keyboards that likely have this option as well, I flip between Google and Swiftkey normally myself so I can't really say much about others.
There are apps that have floating options, which kind of allow for a multiwindow sort of thing, but the floating window can be resized and placed somewhere, like a corner making for easier one handed use. I think the only one of these I have used was Viral Popup, which is a youtube player. I can't really comment on how good or bad any of the others would be.
There may be tricks to doing other things easier with one hand as well. For example, on my Nexus 7 I have Nova Launcher setup to allow gestures. Swipe down it pulls down my notification panel.
If you are just asking for a general system wide one handed operation app, then no. I guess with a custom ROM or root there could be something, or at least more options.
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I have read people disregarding the need for Lollipop to provide a built in one handed operation, because the market already has 1 hand operation apps.
The only ones I found were from 2012 on Google Play, and they had terrrrible ratings.
Does anyone have suggestions for getting one handed operation for most apps ?
I heard LG G3 and Samsung Note 4 and S5 have similar apps. Is there a port of these features ?
Thanks,
Gary
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PIE helps me a lot.
Pie and Swiftkey. Ok, when I get home, I am going to try these on my 2012 Nexus 7.
I am thinking about the Nexus 6 seriously to replace my Nexus 4, but the size and operation seem daunting.
Thanks guys!