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I returned my Nook and got a new one and was amazed at how much better the screen is. Mine had a slight bleed at the bottom I wasn't sure if that was all of them or not.
Anyways aside from the bleed gone, the screen is much more vibrant and clear. Just an fyi if anyone has a weird screen don't settle!
Cool, mine has a dead pixel that appeared only 2 days after I purchased it - I've been debating whether or not it's worth the time to reflash back to stock, etc... etc... and exchange it. I think I will.
My first nook had white splotches on the screen. I took it back to the store and the guy wouldn't exchange it. As soon as I told him I wanted my money back he changed his mind and gave me another one. He was a ****.
Then, after a week, the nook started creaking and squeaking all around the bezel. I called to get it exchanged. They said I had to go into the store. I went into the store. They said I had to do it online or on the phone. I called on the phone and argued with some lady for 30 minutes after which she told me that if I sent my current nook back and they didn't think anything was wrong with it, they'd charge me $250. I hung up and called right back and got a woman who was ok and told me the other lady was an idiot. Thanks guys.
I received my third nook in the mail. The A/C charger jack was broken. I couldn't put the jack in. So i called to get this replaced and argued with some guys in India for an hour and finally got a replacement.
I'm on my 4th nook. Barnes and Noble sucks and I will never buy another electronic device from them again.
Yeah I was not impressed with their phone support either. All these companies not only outsourcing to India but only allowing the support person to use scripted conversation is even worse.
I called to deregister a device since I forgot to deregister before returning a NC and the lady was an idiot reading from a script she didn't even understand.
Roku is another horrible company for India scripted phone support.
Unfortunaley India gets beat up a lot by Americans for this when it might not be so bad if the scripts were taken away and they just hired smarter people.
I got mine at best buy, and getting it replaced for the phantom ghost tap issue was easy as pie. The new one works great. The girl at the counter was kinda cute too, so it was like win-win!
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I got mine at best buy, and getting it replaced for the phantom ghost tap issue was easy as pie. The new one works great. The girl at the counter was kinda cute too, so it was like win-win!
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is the return policy at best buy 14 days too?
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Yeah I was not impressed with their phone support either. All these companies not only outsourcing to India but only allowing the support person to use scripted conversation is even worse.
I called to deregister a device since I forgot to deregister before returning a NC and the lady was an idiot reading from a script she didn't even understand.
Roku is another horrible company for India scripted phone support.
Unfortunaley India gets beat up a lot by Americans for this when it might not be so bad if the scripts were taken away and they just hired smarter people.
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When I called BN phone support, they were not in India.
t3rabyte said:
tldr..
I'm on my 4th nook. Barnes and Noble sucks and I will never buy another electronic device from them again.
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My wife and I both got a NC, same store, about a month apart. Both of ours work perfectly.
Don't assume because you had 2 problematic NC's doesn't mean everyone has, or that overall quality is bad. (Yes, I said 2.)
The only issue with my screen is some binding/pinching where the bezel meets the LCD which causes slight bright spots at the bottom edge. I've seen this same issue with lower quality LCD monitors. Otherwise pleased with screen quality. Having worked in electronics manufacturing, I came to learn how variable quality control can be with some manufacturers.
Best Buy has one month reuturns but after that your screwed unless u buy insurance. my 1st NC ate an 8 gig microUSB and started bleeding by the vol. B&N took sent another straight away with postage paid for the return. NO PROB and they do have a vibrant screen from all angles.
a case would keep your nook safe from most screen probs, and be shure to line up your mcards.
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is the return policy at best buy 14 days too?
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Technically yes, but they will help with warrenty issues after that date to some degree as well.
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Best Buy has one month reuturns but after that your screwed unless u buy insurance.
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I did buy the insurance, but didn't have to use it even though it was something like 45 days or more after I bought it. I brought it in planning to use the insurance (which is a one time shot apparently), but she told me they could just do it as a warranty exchange since it was so new. I'm not really sure how long they extend it for, but I was happy.
khaytsus said:
tldr...
Don't assume because you had 2 problematic NC's doesn't mean everyone has, or that overall quality is bad. (Yes, I said 2.)
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Wow, yeah, my post was just soooo long.
If you read it, it said I had three bad nooks (Yes, I said 3). I never said everyone has bad ones. I said I won't buy from them again because their support sucks and their products are defective.
Maybe next time you comment on a post, read it first.
My first NC was defective. It had a bad accelerometer and/or a bad power button. Essentially, if you set it down occasionally it would act as if you pressed and held the power button and then tapped OK to shut down the tablet.
Here's a vid I took of it to convince the BN store staff I wasn't going nuts:
YOUTUBE DOT COM/watch?v=Zfit4oG4WaA
I'd bought the extended warranty but this happened within the first week of ownership. I talked to the manager of the store where I bought it and she swapped it for a new one and applied the warranty to NC #2. I'd heard the phone support was horrible, so made it a point to buy it locally. I'm glad I did.
I'm loving my new one. I'm going to Hawaii in a week and, for the first time in my life, will be travelling without a laptop. All I'm taking is my NC and a BT keyboard for it.
Are you sure you had a problem? Because khaytsus bought one for himself and his wife and didn't have any issues LOL
Wow, good thing the store owner was helpful. The guy on staff at my local BN refused to do anything and said all returns or exchanges definitely needed to go through the website.
I'm still not happy with my current Nook. The panel below the "N" button is depressed on both sides. But I'm sticking with it for now.
Backlight bleeding is pretty much the norm for any LCD screen. I've seen it on desktop monitors, TVs, laptops, tablets...etc. It will exist on even on the top of the line models and "best" brands.
If you just have only some slight backlight bleeding, I would discourage you from trying to exchange it. You're likely to get something worse like dead pixels.
I spent half an hour one the support line a second ago because my USB cable fried. The lady tried to have me enter my credit card number for some reason so I could buy "NOOKBooks". I argued with her for about 5 minutes and then she told me all I need to enter is my shipping address. She said that they would mail the replacement cable free of charge in 24 to 48 hours.
I didn't spend anytime on hold even though the automated message said that they are flooded with tech support calls.
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it might not be so bad if the scripts were taken away and they just hired smarter people.
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Smarter people ask for a lot of money (if they are paying more money then whats the point of outsourcing) even in India only those who can't really find another job for themselves take up job's in call center's.
well I just returned my nook with a transformer incoming... i sure hope it has as good of a screen or ill prob end up another nook. lol
Got a call from Gamestop today to come pick up my Nexus 7, originally I was schedule to receive it on the third wave around Aug 8th.
I let the dude know I didn't want to pick it up due to all the problems I'd been reading about and was wanting to wait it out for the second & third waves.
My question is this: Are these second and third waves going to be any different from a manufacturing standpoint? Or can we expect to endure the same problems most first wave users are being plagued with? Google's aware of all these problems, but are they doing anything different to amend them? I'm reeeeally not trying to risk picking up a defective device and have to go through the whole defective unit return.
I am extremely interested in any professional opinions on this too (quotes from employees?)
Mine is currently reserved at gamestop, waiting for that call/text.
One more thing... I was told by the Gamestop employees that any defective exchanges would be done from the stock in-store (wouldn't this just be more of the same wave of defective tablets?) and can only be done within 30 days and after that you will have to go through the manufacturer.... Would this be Asus or Google? And are we better off purchasing through the Google Play store themselves? In the unfortunate case of the unit going bad after the 30 day grace period is up from Gamestop.
From the conversation I had with the representative when I was doing warranty exchange on mine, anything after the initial wave of devices should not have the screen creek issue. They are making sure all the screens are secured properly now. The other reason I was returning mine was because of the terrible screen flicker, he did not touch on that and said, "he has only heard about a few cases of the screen flicker."
So it looks like the screen creek should be fixed for sure but I am not sure about the other issues.
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From the conversation I had with the representative when I was doing warranty exchange on mine, anything after the initial wave of devices should not have the screen creek issue. They are making sure all the screens are secured properly now. The other reason I was returning mine was because of the terrible screen flicker, he did not touch on that and said, "he has only heard about a few cases of the screen flicker."
So it looks like the screen creek should be fixed for sure but I am not sure about the other issues.
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Yeah, the guy at my Gamestop was completely clueless to any of these device problems. I'm pretty worried about dead pixels, even if they're not showing up right away, but down the road. I'm seriously considering getting back my deposit and waiting for Google to address these issues and let us know they've been fixed. Because at this point, I feel that it's almost like playing russian roulette with these early units. :/
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Yeah, the guy at my Gamestop was completely clueless to any of these device problems. I'm pretty worried about dead pixels, even if they're not showing up right away, but down the road. I'm seriously considering getting back my deposit and waiting for Google to address these issues and let us know they've been fixed. Because at this point, I feel that it's almost like playing russian roulette with these early units. :/
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Just go get the damn thing, if there's a problem then take it back or call Google, it's got a one year warranty for that stuff. Everyone still waiting on theirs from Google, and you won't go pick yours up now wtf, I got mine from GameStop a week and a half ago and it's fine. Stop being a vagina and go get it and have fun with it.
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First, you must keep in mind that more people are going to a forum to complain than compliment. That's just human nature.
I believe the screen flicker has more to do with your wifi connection than the device.
I pre ordered mine through Google so I guess that would make it first wave and it's a near perfect as a tablet can be.
The most popular issue is screen lifting on the left portrait side. Other complaints are nowhere near as common.
After I returned my 16 with screen separation to Sam's, I called Google CS twice this weekend to find out what's being done about this, in order to make a better informed decision about buying another one. Both reps I spoke with were aware of the issue but said that it was very rare, a bad batch.
Although I knew that they were understating the frequency of this problem, I did decide to order the 8. My experience with the first one was overwhelmingly positive, and I missed having it. Mostly it was the rationalization that if I order from the Play store I can exchange it as many times as I need to.
If I was aware of the information that would be posted Monday, I probably would have waited.
In case you missed it, someone disassembled theirs with a heat gun and gave us the current working theory for why this is happening.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29194958&postcount=372
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29202762&postcount=391
You really should read his analysis, but I'll summarize. There is a ledge around the inside of the frame. It is covered with double-sided tape. The display rests on this ledge and relies on its adhesion to stay seated. The ledges for the top and bottom sides of the device are the widest (12 and 16 mm), and the right ledge is 6.5 millimeters.
The left ledge is the only side that isn't a constant width. The top and bottom portions of the left ledge are 3 mm, but there is a middle portion that is even narrower to make room for the touchscreen input cable. It's only 1.5 mm wide.
Since this is the common point of separation, it seems likely that the adhesive on the left ledge is not strong enough to fasten the display to such a narrow contact area.
Full credit to Simon Haddow (nexus7dude) for this information and these images.
If he's right, the cause of left side screen lifting is present in all units. The obvious possible solutions are to either redesign the frame, which would be disastrous, or to increase the strength of the adhesive being used on this ledge.
Some people are being told by CS that it was a gluing problem. If that's true, new units should have a stronger bond, at least along the left ledge.
My order will be delivered tomorrow. I'm not optimistic that they've already made these changes to outgoing units.
But at the same time, as long as Google honors its role in Play store warranties, I expect to be happy with this purchase.
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The most common issue is screen lifting on the left portrait side. Other complaints are nowhere near as common.
After I returned my 16 with screen separation to Sam's, I called Google CS twice this weekend to find out what's being done about this, in order to make a better informed decision about buying another one. Both reps I spoke with were aware of the issue but said that it was very rare, a bad batch.
Although I knew that they were misrepresenting the frequency of this problem, I did decide to order the 8. My experience with the first unit was overwhelmingly positive, and I missed it. Mostly it was the rationalization that I can exchange it as many times as I need to.
If I was aware of the information that would be posted Monday, I probably would have waited.
In case you missed it, someone disassembled theirs with a heat gun and gave us the current working theory for why this is happening.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29194958&postcount=372
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29202762&postcount=391
You really should read his analysis, but I'll summarize. There is a ledge around the inside of the frame. It is covered with double-sided tape. The display rests on this ledge and relies on its adhesion to stay seated. The ledges for the top and bottom sides of the device are the widest (12 and 16 mm), and the right ledge is 6.5 millimeters.
The left ledge is the only side that isn't a constant width. The top and bottom portions of the left ledge are 3 mm, but there is a middle portion that is even narrower to make room for the touchscreen input cable. It's only 1.5 mm wide.
Since this is the most common point of separation, it seems likely that the adhesive on the left ledge is not strong enough to fasten the display to such a narrow contact area.
Full credit to Simon Haddow (nexus7dude) for this information and these images.
If he's right, the cause of left side screen lifting is present in all units. The obvious possible solutions are to either redesign the frame, which would be disastrous, or to increase the strength of the adhesive being used on this ledge. Some people are being told by CS that it's a gluing problem. If that's true, they should be correcting units by using a stronger bond, at least along the left ledge.
My order will be delivered tomorrow. I'm not optimistic.
But at the same time, as long as Google honors its role in Play store warranties, I expect to be happy with this purchase.
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Good info. Ill be keeping an eye on mines down the road. If it eventually lifts in the area shown, then ill just send it in to get stronger bond applied. I ordered through playstore and haven't noticed anything. But that's what warranties are for. This is something that will easily be covered of it does happen. I can see why some units are having this happen. Based on your summary and the pics.
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Just go get the damn thing, if there's a problem then take it back or call Google, it's got a one year warranty for that stuff. Everyone still waiting on theirs from Google, and you won't go pick yours up now wtf, I got mine from GameStop a week and a half ago and it's fine. Stop being a vagina and go get it and have fun with it.
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Agree 100%. People complain about the problems. They don't complain about fine units. I'm sure many many more people have good units than bad ones. And if you happen to get unlucky... return it! Some people....
Just talked to a Google rep. We have a 15 day "grace period" where we can get facilitated exchanges through Google. After that we hhave to deal with Asus.
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ikn0wagh0st said:
Just talked to a Google rep. We have a 15 day "grace period" where we can get facilitated exchanges through Google. After that we hhave to deal with Asus.
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Haven't they been telling people that warranties for Play store purchases will be handled by Google for the first year?
I hope you're trolling.
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773057
There's an entire thread about it.
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Haven't they been telling people that warranties for Play store purchases will be handled by Google for the first year?
I hope you're trolling.
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Believe me, I wish I was trolling. I'm sure every rep is saying something different. Try calling, the wait time is under a minute.
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Ya I've returned 3 here in canada (2 staples, 1 best buy) all had glass separation issue
im terrified to go buy another one, but i dont know how long to wait, not sure if 2nd batches have been shipped to canada, if they have been fixed even; no idea, im just gonna wait as long as i possibly can
I just picked up my N7 at FutureShop this morning and everything seems to be fine.. been watching the transformer movie to kill the batttery and nothing blew or anything..
Of course I do too have the same problem with the screen being slightly lifted.
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Believe me, I wish I was trolling. I'm sure every rep is saying something different. Try calling, the wait time is under a minute.
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Just got off the phone. He reassured me that this was absolutely not the case and that Play store orders will be handled by Google for 12-month warranty claims.
I asked him if there was any documentation of this, and he said that he would send me something.
E-mail from Google said:
The Nexus 7 is manufactured by ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Please contact Google
customer support for service on the ASUS limited 12 month warranty for the
Nexus 7 if purchased from Google Play, and refer to the warranty card in
the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS
limited warranty.
If your Nexus 7 wasn't purchased from Google Play, please contact ASUS
directly for warranty service by using one of the contact options at
www.asus.com
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I haven't found the warranty on ASUS website yet, but I did find the Nexus 7 warranty on a Google support page. It looks disturbingly like an edited version of the above.
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2662734
Google Play said:
The Nexus 7 is manufactured by ASUSTeK Computer Inc. ASUS provides a limited 12 month warranty for the Nexus 7. Please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or ASUS for details on the ASUS limited warranty.
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SS2006 said:
Ya I've returned 3 here in canada (2 staples, 1 best buy) all had glass separation issue
im terrified to go buy another one, but i dont know how long to wait, not sure if 2nd batches have been shipped to canada, if they have been fixed even; no idea, im just gonna wait as long as i possibly can
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Exactly my point in all this.
Sighx said:
I just picked up my N7 at FutureShop this morning and everything seems to be fine.. been watching the transformer movie to kill the batttery and nothing blew or anything..
Of course I do too have the same problem with the screen being slightly lifted.
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How is everything fine, yet your screen is being lifted? Lol. That's unacceptable.
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Big key words are "if purchased from Google Play". So for everwhere else selling it, Asus handles the warranties after the 30 day "grace period" ie: Gamestop? Which is what I was originally told by the employee. Wonder how well they are with this whole scenario. Might just grab my deposit back and hold out a month or so and re-order from the Play Store when they've had a chance to work out these kinks. If anything, I feel like re-sellers won't be getting these newly fixed units as quick as well as the guarantee of the 12 month warranty from Google themselves, rather than try to deal with ASUS.
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Ya I've returned 3 here in canada (2 staples, 1 best buy) all had glass separation issue
im terrified to go buy another one, but i dont know how long to wait, not sure if 2nd batches have been shipped to canada, if they have been fixed even; no idea, im just gonna wait as long as i possibly can
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Same here,
I've bought 2, 1 from staples and 1 from Future Shop. Mainly it is the screen flicker problem. If ONLY google would smarten up and RELEASE A ****ING STATEMENT and let us KNOW if some of these issues could or will be fixed in a future patch!
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Same here,
I've bought 2, 1 from staples and 1 from Future Shop. Mainly it is the screen flicker problem. If ONLY google would smarten up and RELEASE A ****ING STATEMENT and let us KNOW if some of these issues could or will be fixed in a future patch!
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+1 Exactly.
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Yeah, the guy at my Gamestop was completely clueless to any of these device problems. I'm pretty worried about dead pixels, even if they're not showing up right away, but down the road. I'm seriously considering getting back my deposit and waiting for Google to address these issues and let us know they've been fixed. Because at this point, I feel that it's almost like playing russian roulette with these early units. :/
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Wtf is wrong with you? So a couple of people come to a forum to cry about a device issue, while others stay off the forums and love the device, and that makes you want to not buy the N7? Toughen up buttercup.
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Warning galaxy s5 and s5 actives have a defect I'm the touch screen, caused by heat the phone produces however samsung denies it. What happens is that the screen gets hot from the battery and then it cracks then samsung support either says that Is an unknown issue or you can warranty the phone which you'll pay shipping to Texas both ways and then they will email you telling you that the phone has physical damage and physical/liquid damage voids there warranty where you will be forced to pay 100 and some odd dollars so they can repair it. This happened to me and since I have found 2 people I know that this has happened to, all only owning the phone for less than 1 week. Plus if you Google it you can find at least 6 other instances of this same incident. Oh and att says it was probably drooped and tells you to **** off, then they say that this is common that they get hot and Crack, aknowledgeing that it happens and that it was heat because the Crack is on the inside and not the outside. Then they say they don't warranty phones that were dropped and they just told me it was heat.
Moral of the story avoid the s5 and s5 active as well as ATT
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Warning galaxy s5 and s5 actives have a defect I'm the touch screen, caused by heat the phone produces however samsung denies it. What happens is that the screen gets hot from the battery and then it cracks then samsung support either says that Is an unknown issue or you can warranty the phone which you'll pay shipping to Texas both ways and then they will email you telling you that the phone has physical damage and physical/liquid damage voids there warranty where you will be forced to pay 100 and some odd dollars so they can repair it. This happened to me and since I have found 2 people I know that this has happened to, all only owning the phone for less than 1 week. Plus if you Google it you can find at least 6 other instances of this same incident. Oh and att says it was probably drooped and tells you to **** off, then they say that this is common that they get hot and Crack, aknowledgeing that it happens and that it was heat because the Crack is on the inside and not the outside. Then they say they don't warranty phones that were dropped and they just told me it was heat.
Moral of the story avoid the s5 and s5 active as well as ATT
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6 or 7 out of 10 or 20 million... Yep, a good reason for avoiding the the whole thing. :silly: Sorry for your trouble, but the heat really has to be extreme to crack the digitizer. AT&T didn't make the phone, and didn't hold a gun to your head and force you to buy it. But Samsung could have treated you better.
It's not just that but att has a 28 day phone replacement or return with a 35$ restocking fee that they wouldn't honor because it was physical damage even though they told me it was from the phone.
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It's not just that but att has a 28 day phone replacement or return with a 35$ restocking fee that they wouldn't honor because it was physical damage even though they told me it was from the phone.
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That is they know that Samsung is too cheap to refund them the money. It's all about the "bottom line" they have to protect it. But I guess I will see for myself when my S5 comes tomorrow. I am not a big fan of Samsung after getting 5 bad S3's when I was with US Cellular. But 95% (Made up figure) of what I heard of the S5 is positive. So I bought a used one for $350 (Sold my HTC One M8 for $341, so I had the money to try it out) I still have a M8 I am using, some how when trading phones, I wound up with 2 of the M8.
I love my broken s5 it's a great phone but there is a lot of cases of this defect I have found a lot and to personally know 2 other people with the same issues with in the first week of owning the phone makes you wonder how many of them are not posted online
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I love my broken s5 it's a great phone but there is a lot of cases of this defect I have found a lot and to personally know 2 other people with the same issues with in the first week of owning the phone makes you wonder how many of them are not posted online
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Or how many think that they caused it. Samsung isn't on my good side, I had 5 bad S3's when I was US Cellular. My Note 3 was good, just didn't like the size.
Doesn't sound common enough to worry, besides if they try that **** on me then I'll sure as **** raise hell, and besides that's pretty illegal for them to let a defect like that go unnoticed, and then deny to repair a crack caused by there ignorance, so weirdly I don't think this has much truth to it but, idk maybe it does, but that's my opinion.:cyclops:
Those of you experiencing issues with the screen display being garbled, it finally became listed as a known issue for Sprint. This is good for those of you having it! You should be able to get into a store and get the phone replaced for free even without insurence. It will say in the "known issues" area for techs to waive the exchange fee if thats the reason its being replaced.
I had the issue and the reps said it's a known issue. Seems to be related to a certain batch of phones and the latest update. They tried replacing the screen first and it didn't fix it then he went to the spring employee forum and then he seen its a widespread issue and they replaced my phone for me. Hope this helps
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I just started to notice this today in some apps where the screen will split in two then have just snow in certain portions. Is that what you all are seeing?
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I just started to notice this today in some apps where the screen will split in two then have just snow in certain portions. Is that what you all are seeing?
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Yes. That is the exact issue. I did a factory reset on mine. I dont have the issue as much. Only when it gets warm. But i am going to get it replaced
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Yeah, where it it displays Snow on half the screen. We just got an offical email about it today to say that its now listed as a "known issue" for the device with an exchange waiver. So hopefully any of you with the issue can go in and get it fixed. You should be able to do so even without insurence. If they argue you that you need to pay tell them to check the site...it will say "waive fee"
I haven't gotton the chance to check since I've been off today.
Thank you for this I had to argue with the Sprint Tech support last night about this and they came up with a deal to pay my insurance for a month to swap the phone out and are sending me a new one. I reset my phone as well and haven't messed with the DPI and I have even heated it up a few times and don't seem to have the issue. I also quite running Google Now launcher and don't seem to have any problems today. Odd. Almost feel like it don't need to swap the phone but maybe I'll do the Xposed mod on this one as a test and still swap it when the other one comes....
Well it looks like they went back on the known issue and won't replace for free till LG admits its an issue. I replaced out a screen and the issue persisted for a person. Makes me wonder if it's motherboard issue. I'll keep you guys posted once it becomes official.
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soulysephiroth said:
Well it looks like they went back on the known issue and won't replace for free till LG admits its an issue. I replaced out a screen and the issue persisted for a person. Makes me wonder if it's motherboard issue. I'll keep you guys posted once it becomes official.
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Are there any current known issues that they will replace the phone? I am having random reboots which is very infuriating. However, I was stupid and bought from Best Buy so I am not even sure a Sprint store could help me as they can't even activate my old phone! I have to go into Best Buy for them... I don't think I am technically a Sprint customer anymore but a Best Buy one with this weird plan they got me on that "saved" me money. $5 a month is not worth it for all this craziness I am now gong through!
Anyway, sorry to hijack this thread but I don't know if the screen issue relates to the random reboots people have been having but it seems that the first batch may have faulty CPUs according to another post. I really don't want to claim insurance because I want to be positive I don't get another phone that is the bad batch. I heard LG have been sending some people new phones so maybe I will try to go that route as the likely hood of them still having stock from the bad batch is less likely then Sprint or Best Buy.
This is the worst electronics purchase I have ever made!
It's not a listed known issue so sprint won't replace it unless you have TEP. If you do just take into a repair center and have then do all their tech crap and once they see its still rebooting randomly theyll replace it. My ATT one never did any of these stuff that sprint ones seems to be having issues with.. Makes me wonder about model numbers lol
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wilsonch1551 said:
Thank you for this I had to argue with the Sprint Tech support last night about this and they came up with a deal to pay my insurance for a month to swap the phone out and are sending me a new one. I reset my phone as well and haven't messed with the DPI and I have even heated it up a few times and don't seem to have the issue. I also quite running Google Now launcher and don't seem to have any problems today. Odd. Almost feel like it don't need to swap the phone but maybe I'll do the Xposed mod on this one as a test and still swap it when the other one comes....
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So it started again this weekend and I think it is tied to the phone being hot. If I am running intense video play back or high graphics games it will happen. I have left everything stock just to test it out and it has returned. As long as the phone is cool then it doesn't happen but the minute it starts to warm up from prolonged screen use then the problem returns. FYI.... Hopefully the new one gets here today and doesn't have the same problem.
Newest Update. I have been discussing this issue on Facebook on the Sprint page because they don't seem to understand the difference between "Warranty" and "Insurance". They are seeing it my way but does bring to light the BS they are shoveling that you have to buy insurance on your devices for things that should be covered by a Warranty. They need to review their policies on this and make things easier on folks who have defective merchandise and aren't just clumsy with phones.
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/440497.html
Oh so now I am told that the LG G4 from Sprint is on back order.....
soulysephiroth said:
Well it looks like they went back on the known issue and won't replace for free till LG admits its an issue. I replaced out a screen and the issue persisted for a person. Makes me wonder if it's motherboard issue. I'll keep you guys posted once it becomes official.
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Wait I thought EVERYONE was having this issue. If you get the patch of visual "snow" on your screen occasionally, you're saying the phone should be replaced completely?
My phone also gets REALLY hot sometimes. Pretty annoying. Obviously tanks the battery
send device into LG
I had the same issue where the screen would get garbled, show different colors (pink/purple/blue/green etc..) all screwed up. The camera app would crash when I would constantly switch from front facing to rear facing camera. My device got really slow had to reset/reformat it a few times. I thought it was due to rooting it or whatnot. I don't think that was it. I think it was a bad batch. I sent it in to LG two weeks ago and got it back today. Their message back on the paper was replaced flash/memory.
They actually sent me a completely new device. I think the touch screen issues are gone as well as the original issue. This feels like a brand new device not part of a bad batch. I'm glad I sent it in. You should do the same. It's probably part of the same problem posted in this thread. I'm a happy camper now.
Warranty is covered by LG. Thus you go to LG after 14 days you need insurance to get sprint to replace it normally. There's no issue that's just how it works and the termology backs it.
Devices get it everyone in a while, the thing is when half the screen us garbled and it happens frequently
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Difference between Warranty and Insurance
soulysephiroth said:
Warranty is covered by LG. Thus you go to LG after 14 days you need insurance to get sprint to replace it normally. There's no issue that's just how it works and the termology backs it.
Devices get it everyone in a while, the thing is when half the screen us garbled and it happens frequently
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The issue I have is that I shouldn't have to pay insurance for a company to warranty something they sold me. If I didn't break the device then they should be the one to handle it for me with the manufacturer that they represent. I shouldn't have to go back to the manufacturer because they didn't sell me the device. If I had dunked it or broken it I agree I should have to pay out of pocket but that's not what happened.
This answer explains it and since I am already paying Sprint for cell service I shouldn't have to be inconvenienced as the customer to get a warranty item taken care of.
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/440497.html
A Google answers thread isn't policy. Sprint guaranteed the phone to work in the first 14 as per policy. The warranty you're claiming is a manufacturing one, not sprints warranty. It's lgs warranty for a year.
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Here's a straight answer to your issue with warranty vs insurance.
THE WARRANTY IS THROUGH LG. They are the only ones who guarantee the phone to work for a year.
Sprint Asurion insurance: Will cover your phone for 2 repairs/replacements for free in a year, after that 25 dollars a repair or replacement, and if you have a lost, stolen, water damaged, or cracked display over an inch will be a deductible.
If you don't have TEP, then after 14 days Sprint will not cover replacements for your device UNLESS its a KNOWN ISSUE. As of right now, Sprint doesn't have anything officially listed as known issue till LG admits they have a problem and work out a deal with sprint to pay for the replacements.
You're arguing that Sprint has to honor LG's warranty, which is simple not the case. If that was the case Sprint wouldn't offer insurance at all.
I appreciate your take on things and having been with other more expensive carriers the question of insurance is a matter of perspective. With At&t within the first year they will just swap the phone out. Now this may be because they charge you more for their service and as they see it they would rather reduce the hassle and take care of the device with the manufacturer. With Sprint they have chosen to try and compete on a price model that requires that they charge for insurance as they don't have the money built into the plans to cover these sorts of issues. They may never admit that openly but in seeing how the two companies have addressed similar issues that would be the appearance of it.
Either way I now know that if it want to have anything close to the device coverage I had with At&t then I have to pay for Sprint "Insurance" so be it.
I am having the vertical split screen issue as well...it's just started happening and I am up to 1 month of ownership. Where is the best place to go to inquire about an LG warranty replacement?
So I was sitting at the bar and saw a piece of something on my screen, so I went to wipe it off with a bit of force and now my screen has a bleeding black dot right in the middle and a line all the way up to the top of the screen. My phone has only experienced one drop and that was about two months ago.
Called Verizon and they gave me the biggest bull**** response of "We cover the Moto Maxx and the Droid Turbo 2, but the shatter shield warranty on the Z Force is different so pay your $200 deductable". Called Motorola and they are sending me a new phone and I can return mine after I receive the new one in the mail. Only thing they did was put a $250 hold on my card till they receive my broken phone then they refund the hold amount.
Just thought I'd share. Looks like Moto covers LCD damage on the Z Force and I was super happy about being sent a replacement before I send mine in.
EDIT: Guess I should say LED panel since it's an OLED display.
Did Motorola tell you about the $25 service fee and the tax in the $250 that they will also charge on your card? They tried to put that all on my card, total about $309 and my card stopped the charge. I argued with Motorola to no end..... Just wondered.
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So I was sitting at the bar and saw a piece of something on my screen, so I went to wipe it off with a bit of force and now my screen has a bleeding black dot right in the middle and a line all the way up to the top of the screen. My phone has only experienced one drop and that was about two months ago.
Called Verizon and they gave me the biggest bull**** response of "We cover the Moto Maxx and the Droid Turbo 2, but the shatter shield warranty on the Z Force is different so pay your $200 deductable". Called Motorola and they are sending me a new phone and I can return mine after I receive the new one in the mail. Only thing they did was put a $250 hold on my card till they receive my broken phone then they refund the hold amount.
Just thought I'd share. Looks like Moto covers LCD damage on the Z Force and I was super happy about being sent a replacement before I send mine in.
EDIT: Guess I should say LED panel since it's an OLED display.
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Had the same issue with mine. It happened about a week after I got the phone. Since it was under the 14 days, I was able to return it to the store for a new device. What shocked me was I barely touched it and it caused that to happen.
I had a similar issue a few months back with my MZF. Went straight thru Motorola and used the Advanced Exchange Program. Had a new phone a day or two later and sent in the defective one. The End.
This is good information to have. And it just reinforces that Verzion really does not have OUR best interests in mind.