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I have recently upgraded my note to official JellyBean via kies and after tht i am having horrible battery problems.
And if i use builtin internet application, the screen starts to flicker and then phone shuts down.
No matter whts the battery at the time of using, after crash battery always shows 1%.
Also when charging it gets charged 10% in 5mins, 20% in 15mins and if i unplug then it automatically gains power like frm 20% to 22% suddenly.
Have done factory reset, cleared cahce, calibrated battery but nothings working.
Do i have to reinstall fresh JB frm external usb OR battery is dying
JB version: DDLSC
Could be that the battery is dying... I had to change my battery about a month ago as I had the same symptoms... The battery should last about a year before it starts showing these problems.
Yup, buying new battery.
Have checked everywhere today, but Samsung itself doesn't have stocks of battery and its almost impossible to procure one from any shops/distributors.
Some guy off ebay is claiming genuine battery costing USD12 but in OEM loose packing and has Samsung logo of authenticity sticker, wonder if I should go with it... BTW, retail pack battries in my country is USD 24.
How to differentiate between fake and genuine batteries ?
craige said:
Yup, buying new battery.
Have checked everywhere today, but Samsung itself doesn't have stocks of battery and its almost impossible to procure one from any shops/distributors.
Some guy off ebay is claiming genuine battery costing USD12 but in OEM loose packing and has Samsung logo of authenticity sticker, wonder if I should go with it... BTW, retail pack battries in my country is USD 24.
How to differentiate between fake and genuine batteries ?
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I got the same problem with me. Its of no probs with JB but with your battery. Seems now is the right time for all those you bought their note during the initial launch of the product.
I bought an extended battery today and it is good from ebay and looks fine. Be wary there is no warranty but based on the previous purchasers feedback I opt for it and I don't regret.
http://www.ebay.in/itm/SAMSUNG-GALA...ies&hash=item4166738a39&_uhb=1#ht_2752wt_1139
PS : I do not promote/linked by any means either with this product or seller. Just I got a good battery doesn't mean you will also get one. But the seller seems genuine and takes seller 1 month replacement in my case.
hello dr!!!the new battery solved the problem that you were facing????????
coz i m facing the same problem too!
I can confirm it's the battery issue. Same symptom as described in the OP.
Back to normal when changed a new battery. No more flickering or sudden drop of battery.
Attached picture is the old battery. It swelled at the center. You can see the gap on the edges.
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sean_siew said:
I can confirm it's the battery issue. Same symptom as described in the OP.
Back to normal when changed a new battery. No more flickering or sudden drop of battery.
Attached picture is the old battery. It swelled at the center. You can see the gap on the edges.
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Had same issue and the swelling of my battery was horrible. The back cover wouldn't fit.
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Hey guys,
Title says it all! I am sold on the Z1 (Z2 too expensive) but the self-cracking issue got me worried hard...its the ONLY reason I'm not getting this right now, how prevalent is it really? Thanks!
I have never heard of it, don't even know what you mean.
And don't worry, I have already asked the mods to move your question to the Q and A section
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I have never heard of it, don't even know what you mean.
And don't worry, I have already asked the mods to move your question to the Q and A section
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Oh my apologies! Thanks
Has anyone experienced this?
I can double the fact that I never heard about this. What is it?
He mean that the Z1 cracking the glass, front or back, by itself. Still unclear how, but someone said it happen on they phones.
Probably a chick that wears skin tight jeans and keeps the phone in their back pocket said it then wonders how the screen cracked lol.
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It happens. Look at sony support forums. They say it was no hit then crack or it just cracked by itself.. Sony addressed the issue i think? I mean, they responded. I forgot their response though just look through the sony support forum.
mahalkosijoy said:
It happens. Look at sony support forums. They say it was no hit then crack or it just cracked by itself.. Sony addressed the issue i think? I mean, they responded. I forgot their response though just look through the sony support forum.
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Yea thats the issue. I just don't know how prevalent it is and who wants to deal with customer support all the time you know? It seems like they denied the issue at first but then they replace it in some cases.
All phones have problems but if its prevalent I'd stay away from the Z1, thats why I asked Phone looks amazing though!
My z1s cracked itself.
Went to sleep and when I woke up the back had cracked.
It doesn't affect usage so no big deal to me.
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Yea thats the issue. I just don't know how prevalent it is and who wants to deal with customer support all the time you know? It seems like they denied the issue at first but then they replace it in some cases.
All phones have problems but if its prevalent I'd stay away from the Z1, thats why I asked Phone looks amazing though!
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Hmm. maybe its a problem for a given batch of z1? Maybe they fixed or solved the problem in other batches, like productiob batches. Like cars. Sometimes they call a specific batch back to get fixed because of problems, then the other batches are ok?
Possibly referring to overcharging the device, the battery swelling , the phone bending and the glass cracking, if this is the case then I can tell you that if you don't overcharge your device (excessively anyway) you won't have this issue, the phone itself is glass but is relatively sturdy and a few knocks here and there won't give you any problems, a drop from height and you might have an issue.
Hope this helps.
What do you mean by excessively charging? Too many times or too much time per charge? Or both? Thx in advance.
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Possibly referring to overcharging the device, the battery swelling , the phone bending and the glass cracking, if this is the case then I can tell you that if you don't overcharge your device (excessively anyway) you won't have this issue, the phone itself is glass but is relatively sturdy and a few knocks here and there won't give you any problems, a drop from height and you might have an issue.
Hope this helps.
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Rubbish. My handset is almost permanently on charge either on my bedside table (from the moment I get in as it provides my Hotspot), my desk at work (I don't carry it around as I'll break it) or in the van providing handsfree and GPS. Most of this time it's got the screen ON and is being charged with a 2500mAh charger.
If one was too overcharge it would be mine and it never has.
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Rubbish. My handset is almost permanently on charge either on my bedside table (from the moment I get in as it provides my Hotspot), my desk at work (I don't carry it around as I'll break it) or in the van providing handsfree and GPS. Most of this time it's got the screen ON and is being charged with a 2500mAh charger.
If one was too overcharge it would be mine and it never has.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Xperia-Z1-frame-bending-for-no-reason-claim-users_id51383
Rubbish? Really? Well explain this then? This is due to excessive heat and overcharge and a bloated battery.
When the battery bloats it has no where to go, i've seen this many times on devices, namely the kit used to diagnose problems on BMW and mercedes cars uses a blue battery and i've seen them triple in size when overcharged and eventually the screws, the sides of the device split, So no not rubbish at all, do your home work.
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albertmed98 said:
What do you mean by excessively charging? Too many times or too much time per charge? Or both? Thx in advance.
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excessive as in overcharging constantly, especially with a charger which outputs too much power. the battery will eventually bloat, this can't be good for the components inside, whether or not that this device in the article is due to that or not is anyones guess, but i've seen devices split from a battery which has bloated beyond its limits. This is usually due to a few factors, excessive heat, charge or water damage.
I don't know why but it happens, galaxy devices see this issue more than others.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Xperia-Z1-frame-bending-for-no-reason-claim-users_id51383
Rubbish? Really? Well explain this then? This is due to excessive heat and overcharge and a bloated battery.
When the battery bloats it has no where to go, i've seen this many times on devices, namely the kit used to diagnose problems on BMW and mercedes cars uses a blue bag type battery and i've seen them triple in size when overcharged and eventually the screws, the sides of the device split, So no not rubbish at all, do your home work.
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The article says 'possibly'. It's not confirmed. One of the the things I was asked when my old handset went in for repair was 'is it bent?'. Obviously I said no and asked why, Sony's comment, on the phone, was that the bending people had experienced was due to people sitting on their handsets or putting them in trouser pockets and the pressure combined with heat was causing them to bend.
More to the point. The battery is towards the bottom of the handset. The pictures of bent handsets show the bends to be at the top, nearer the processor.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Battery_life
Read the battery life, conditioning and multi cell device sections
This describes the misconceptions surrounding Li-ion batteries (That are in our Z1's) including the fact that the software in the phone prevents overcharging and will also lead the battery to discharge whilst still plugged in order to give the battery max performance/life.
If a battery in our mobile phones is getting overcharged that will be a symptom of another fault, namely something wrong with the phone software. Our batteries will look after themselves, there is no need to worry
Here is another point about not completely discharging Li-ion batteries
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-tips-for-extending-lithium-ion-battery-life/
gregbradley said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Battery_life
Read the battery life, conditioning and multi cell device sections
This describes the misconceptions surrounding Li-ion batteries (That are in our Z1's) including the fact that the software in the phone prevents overcharging and will also lead the battery to discharge whilst still plugged in order to give the battery max performance/life.
If a battery in our mobile phones is getting overcharged that will be a symptom of another fault, namely something wrong with the phone software. Our batteries will look after themselves, there is no need to worry
Here is another point about not completely discharging Li-ion batteries
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-tips-for-extending-lithium-ion-battery-life/
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Ok so the Li ion battery found in the device i was referring to bloated, it was plugged in all of the time, in a different dealer the same machine was cared for by not being over charged, and didn't experience the bloat? reports from several other garages of the same thing.
How do you explain that?
I am not trying to explain anything
Just pointing out some articles, from what I read in them the OS will look after the battery more than us, and that it is OK to leave it on charge without waiting until it is completely discharged. Then, about once a month you should completely discharge it and fully charge to calibrate the software
Maybe the chargemon file in our phones looks after the battery more than the software in those machines you are talking of, its the OS that looks after the battery
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I am not trying to explain anything
Just pointing out some articles, from what I read in them the OS will look after the battery more than us, and that it is OK to leave it on charge without waiting until it is completely discharged. Then, about once a month you should completely discharge it and fully charge to calibrate the software
Maybe the chargemon file in our phones looks after the battery more than the software in those machines you are talking of, its the OS that looks after the battery
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Not sure m8, all i know is that if phones are left to charge all the time they experience anomalies, any phone that's been left in a shop for a period of time will experience the issues, I know there are fail safes in place but issues still occur on all devices, primarily and the most noticeable is sporadic touch screen issues although the newer handsets have been able to erradicate this somewhat, but the bloating battery from overcharging is very real, if i'd not seen it with my own eyes then i would be sceptical too.
Whether this phone bending phenomenon is solely due to overcharging or not i''m not sure but i'd say it's definitely a factor.
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The article says 'possibly'. It's not confirmed. One of the the things I was asked when my old handset went in for repair was 'is it bent?'. Obviously I said no and asked why, Sony's comment, on the phone, was that the bending people had experienced was due to people sitting on their handsets or putting them in trouser pockets and the pressure combined with heat was causing them to bend.
More to the point. The battery is towards the bottom of the handset. The pictures of bent handsets show the bends to be at the top, nearer the processor.
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excessive heat and sitting on the phone? I'd have thought that the glass would have broken way before that it bent, and the battery isn't on the bottom, it's from the bottom all the way up to three quarters of the phone. So it's actually a plausible theory that battery bloating could have caused it to bend.
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Not sure m8, all i know is that if phones are left to charge all the time they experience anomalies, any phone that's been left in a shop for a period of time will experience the issues, I know there are fail safes in place but issues still occur on all devices, primarily and the most noticeable is sporadic touch screen issues although the newer handsets have been able to erradicate this somewhat, but the bloating battery from overcharging is very real, if i'd not seen it with my own eyes then i would be sceptical too.
Whether this phone bending phenomenon is solely due to overcharging or not i''m not sure but i'd say it's definitely a factor.
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excessive heat and sitting on the phone? I'd have thought that the glass would have broken way before that it bent, and the battery isn't on the bottom, it's from the bottom all the way up to three quarters of the phone. So it's actually a plausible theory that battery bloating could have caused it to bend.
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Then I took mine apart it seemed the battery was more towards the bottom than the top. But it is plausible the battery could cause bending. Seems odd though as the heat would be greater in the centre of the battery, not one corner.
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Hi,
Yesterday i buy new battery for my old lg g2, but i'm not sure is it original.
My New battery is non stepped like this http://tanstartrade.ca/images/LG%20BL-T7.jpg
Do you think that it could be authentic?
Thanks in advance for your help.
I just got replaced battery in service - they told me that they use original LG parts. When I checked it under the cover, it shows manufactured date 6th of January 2016. It is not allowed by antena strips and curved back cover to have thicker battery and thinner would have less capacity. You could probably try but I don't see any benefits in that.
EDIT: After few days of usage I had to get my battery replaced by the old one. May be bad luck with not properly working battery but more probably faik one (runs for 0-10 mins, weird force charging in no OS mode). When they showed me the "new" battery in service it is thinner than the original, does not have the stepped back and thus makes gap between back cover and battery itself - 2mm of medium hard press. So it was like yours - flat design - no additional stepped part. The service was not authorised service but looked legit and had plenty of good reviews. So it's my experience of flat lg battery replacement stated as original.
Be noticed that all of below information are not yet confirmed.
I discovered the difference between original and fake since searching trough forums and own experience. :victory:
Design od LG BL-T7 battery has not changed ever since. Still the only one with the stepped back side. Should look like the battery on right side of these pictures, otherwise it is nor factory replacement (aka fake):
http://i.imgur.com/2Yt8cvDh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hkVpceYh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XtEH5AQh.jpg
The main difference is in litle bulk under printing "BL-T7", arrows under the NOM icon and next right is noticeable differnce in T in that symbol, fonts differ and last letter of chineese behind the manufactured day,...
There is a believe that non-original batteries are not that bad at all, only they have poor wiring and connection port which often makes them behave unexpectedly.
How to calibrate battery after replacement or when needed here.
I replaced my battery recently, they told me that it's not the original one, its a Chinese made but works well. So far, no issue.
Where did you get that one?
iubjaved said:
I replaced my battery recently, they told me that it's not the original one, its a Chinese made but works well. So far, no issue.
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tiguy99 said:
Where did you get that one?
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From Ebay. Bought it from a trusted seller.
Sorry for the late reply, i wasn't around for long.
Thanks. When possible, please pm me the sellers info.
Gonna buy one asap
iubjaved said:
From Ebay. Bought it from a trusted seller.
Sorry for the late reply, i wasn't around for long.
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tiguy99 said:
Thanks. When possible, please pm me the sellers info.
Gonna buy one asap
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-LG-...781964?hash=item51cfceb70c:g:oOEAAOSwv0tVNo12
Note that if you face any issue regarding charging since these batteries are years old, then feel free to contact the seller and you will get a replacement.
I bought that same battery. It had no glue residue and the year was rubbed off.
It looks genuine but I won't be able to tell until my replacement screen arrives and I can install them both at the same time.
I bought a 3950mah high capacity battery from aliexpress (so clearly not geniune but for the money I decided to give it a shot). it works fine, got my Screen on time from 2-3h to 5h or more. However, when charging, it will charge up to 95-99% and then, while still plugged in, go down to 83% and stay there. Then when I unplug it and start using it, it first goes back up to 90-95% before going back down like normal. Has anyone experienced something like this and/or know a way to fix it? I tried some battery calibration methods but no luck. Also, since the phone rarely reaches 100% (indicated) it doesnt always reset the screen on timer properly... this makes it difficult to keep accurate track of its performance. when it does work 5h seems to be the usual value.
That one sounds weird.
Definitely not normal.
Only solution is to buy another and test it or return the one you haveDefinitely and try another one
kili3981 said:
I bought a 3950mah high capacity battery from aliexpress (so clearly not geniune but for the money I decided to give it a shot). it works fine, got my Screen on time from 2-3h to 5h or more. However, when charging, it will charge up to 95-99% and then, while still plugged in, go down to 83% and stay there. Then when I unplug it and start using it, it first goes back up to 90-95% before going back down like normal. Has anyone experienced something like this and/or know a way to fix it? I tried some battery calibration methods but no luck. Also, since the phone rarely reaches 100% (indicated) it doesnt always reset the screen on timer properly... this makes it difficult to keep accurate track of its performance. when it does work 5h seems to be the usual value.
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tiguy99 said:
That one sounds weird.
Definitely not normal.
Only solution is to buy another and test it or return the one you haveDefinitely and try another one
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I have contacted the seller but so far they are not replying... I tried the Ampere and 3C Battery monitor the check the voltages and currents while charging. At first, I thought the phone showed the wrong percentage as it was not calibrated for the high capacity (so 80% was actually 120% relative to the standard battery capacity) but it showed that the phone was actually discharging once it reached full charge. Also, my assumption of it being 120% was wrong since the percentage probably comes from the cell voltage. So, next I checked the cell voltage using both ampere and 3C but the values were all over the place, jumping from 4.36 to 4.2 and back. this made no sense. The battery has a top voltage of 4.37 when fully charged so maybe the battery monitoring software of the phone is confused by this?
In any case I will wait for the seller to get back to me and if the problem becomes worse I will get a new battery to test out.
Thanks for the update.
Keep us posted on how it goes.
kili3981 said:
I have contacted the seller but so far they are not replying... I tried the Ampere and 3C Battery monitor the check the voltages and currents while charging. At first, I thought the phone showed the wrong percentage as it was not calibrated for the high capacity (so 80% was actually 120% relative to the standard battery capacity) but it showed that the phone was actually discharging once it reached full charge. Also, my assumption of it being 120% was wrong since the percentage probably comes from the cell voltage. So, next I checked the cell voltage using both ampere and 3C but the values were all over the place, jumping from 4.36 to 4.2 and back. this made no sense. The battery has a top voltage of 4.37 when fully charged so maybe the battery monitoring software of the phone is confused by this?
In any case I will wait for the seller to get back to me and if the problem becomes worse I will get a new battery to test out.
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Hello guys, I am looking to buy new battery for my 2 and half years old g2. So here are my options:
1) Pollarcell - they says it's great battery, but still kinda expensive for a non-oem battery. It would cost me about 25e.
2) OEM LG battery - in LG official service, I have to check it they still got them, price was about 30e if I recall correctly.
3) Some random battery - I guess this is lottery.I can get good or I can get bad battery. There are many brands, and their price is from 8-9 to 15e.
OEM is best choice for sure, but I don't feel like investing 1/3 of phone price in battery, especially cause I don't know how long I will keep that phone. Dunno what to do
Edit: Did anyone tried this battery? It has quite high rating
https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32572840069.html#autostay
Beware of Pollarcell batteries I have read cases of burning
Bought my new battery at PhonTrading24 ,
Battery is class and from new production 12/2016 .
fake or original?
I also changed my battery after 3 years at LG service however I have some questions in my mind whether battery is fake or original one. Although new battery has same capacity like old one but it doesn not last like new one ( it lasts almost a day ) Pictures are attached new and old one. What do you think guys?
benveq said:
I also changed my battery after 3 years at LG service however I have some questions in my mind whether battery is fake or original one. Although new battery has same capacity like old one but it doesn not last like new one ( it lasts almost a day ) Pictures are attached new and old one. What do you think guys?
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It looks like the original one and it might well be. But that also means it is not new, as the production of original batteries have stopped several years back. So what you have is probably an unused but ageing battery.
Batteries start degrading the moment they are produced, just that it degrades at a slower rate being unused (depending on temperature it's stored etc), compared to it being actively used everyday.
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It looks like the original one and it might well be. But that also means it is not new, as the production of original batteries have stopped several years back. So what you have is probably an unused but ageing battery.
Batteries start degrading the moment they are produced, just that it degrades at a slower rate being unused (depending on temperature it's stored etc), compared to it being actively used everyday.
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thanks a lot for the comment. I have been using this battery for a month now and the battery ends after completing one day. As and old production not bad as you said.
Dimensions of original battery BL-T7, taken off from LG G2 : 55.4mm x 66.4 mm x 5.6 mm (thickness in the middle), Weight: 45 G.
I've been experiencing random power-off events when the battery indicator shows roughly 35% or lower. Seemingly random percentage, and it doesn't do it all the time, Sometimes I can run it down to 5% and it's fine. This seems to be a well documented phenomenon here on XDA with many people coming to the conclusion that it's a software problem, so I've just been living with it. If I don't use the crap out of my phone it will only happen once every couple weeks.
But today, oh boy. I've never seen or read about anything like this. I've attached a screenshot of my battery history today and I'll describe my phone usage to help make sense out of the battery history graph.
Phone = XT1095 Pure Edition/Unlocked/MotoMaker, 32GB, Stock Android 6.0, rooted, TWRP, no battery optimizer/conditioner programs. I use a wireless charging adapter under a TPU cover to charge on a Qi charging base at night and an Anker car charger for emergencies like today. The wireless charging adapter charges the phone slowly and seems to make the random power-off problems less bad.
Taken off the charger at 10am and used normally until 3pm (A to B). From 3:15pm to 3:50pm I streamed mp3 music stored on the phone to my bluetooth headset while running MapMyRide (B to C). MapMyRide pounds the crap out of GPS because it precisely and continuously tracks your movement. I also had intermittent cell signal which causes high battery usage. After I finished my ride I opened the camera app with a twist to take a picture and the phone shut off. I powered it back on and it said 50% battery. I opened the camera app again with a twist and again it shut off. I powered it back on once more and it said 5% battery and put itself into battery saver mode (D). I gave up on the picture and put the phone on my car charger and drove to my friends' house. When I arrived it was somewhere between 25-30% (E). I hung out for two hours and didn't use my phone at all (except to check the time) and DID NOT charge it during that time, yet the battery graph goes UP during those two hours. When I got back in my car I plugged the phone back into the car charger and it jumped up to 60% immediately (F). I drove home with it on the car charger and unplugged it (G). Almost no usage the rest of the night until now (H). The camera app works fine, I just tested it.
If anyone has any idea what's wrong here, bad battery, bad charging circuit, software problem, phone with one foot in the grave, please chime in. I don't want to spend money on a new battery (and also on a new battery cover of course because I want a wooden one) just to still have the same problem, or worse problems if I unwittingly buy a piece of crap Chinese knockoff battery.
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DrvLikHell said:
If anyone has any idea what's wrong here, bad battery, bad charging circuit, software problem, phone with one foot in the grave, please chime in. I don't want to spend money on a new battery (and also on a new battery cover of course because I want a wooden one) just to still have the same problem, or worse problems if I unwittingly buy a piece of crap Chinese knockoff battery.
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You're describing what happened to me. Replaced new stock battery and problem was solved.
I'm guessing you're having the same problem.
renzs said:
You're describing what happened to me. Replaced new stock battery and problem was solved.
I'm guessing you're having the same problem.
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I was thinking possibly the battery too. So many other people said their problem was in software so I wasn't sure, but they also didn't have the bizarreness I described.
Where did you get a new battery for yours?
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Where did you get a new battery for yours?
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Got it from ebay from a seller in Spain. There are some in the US but wouldn't ship to my country.
All's good now.
Oh, btw, quickchargers and turbochargers will cause & worsen the problem. I'm now only using stock charger.
renzs said:
Got it from ebay from a seller in Spain. There are some in the US but wouldn't ship to my country.
All's good now.
Oh, btw, quickchargers and turbochargers will cause & worsen the problem. I'm now only using stock charger.
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Indeed it was the battery. I did the same exact thing that caused the issues before, using the same exact apps for the same amount of time and all was well. I got a used oem Motorola battery because all of the new batteries listed look like fakes. Out of 50 or so listings, there were only three or four different serial numbers. The place I got my replacement from uses a Cadex battery tester to ensure the health of the battery, and I've had good results buying Motorola parts from them before.
If it is a battery problem and not a software problem, then I can confirm that the ones on eBay are probably fake. I'm on my third battery in this phone and the one I'm on now consistently dies at 26 ish % and has done so since a week after I installed it. Let me know if you have success and I might try a fourth battery.
Was it cold out when it died? I believe the root cause is a low voltage shutoff built into the hardware of this phone. Very rarely do I see the " phone shutting down" screen, it just dies.
Even though our phones may have plenty of capacity, its the slight weakness in cold weather or running the CPU too hard that causes a low voltage shutdown. If someone has a good source of batteries for this phone let us know.
At this point I just know when it gets to 40% I need to be prepared for it to die. Looking at a replacement soon.
shawndak said:
Was it cold out when it died? I believe the root cause is a low voltage shutoff built into the hardware of this phone. Very rarely do I see the " phone shutting down" screen, it just dies.
Even though our phones may have plenty of capacity, its the slight weakness in cold weather or running the CPU too hard that causes a low voltage shutdown. If someone has a good source of batteries for this phone let us know.
At this point I just know when it gets to 40% I need to be prepared for it to die. Looking at a replacement soon.
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It was in the 20's today. Mine shutdown at 50 percent when I went into the browser, Firefox Nightly. I can restart it but if I try to go into the browser, shuts off without warning again.
It's certainly a battery issue not software. It happens on stock or custom ROMs. After replacing my battery with a new one bought from eBay,it solved all those early shutting down issues.
Someone tried using this battery?
https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/328...1-80c1-9f1182245f48&rmStoreLevelAB=5#autostay
Im experiencing same problemy and looking for a new battery.
huatz84 said:
It's certainly a battery issue not software. It happens on stock or custom ROMs. After replacing my battery with a new one bought from eBay,it solved all those early shutting down issues.
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I'm surprised with how bad my battery has gotten, the battery hasn't expanded yet (judging by the back cover gaps or lack there of).
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
I'm surprised with how bad my battery has gotten, the battery hasn't expanded yet (judging by the back cover gaps or lack there of).
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I wonder what makes our battery broken. I saw a lot of issues on battery. I bought my X2 in used condition. So,I don't know what cause all these issues coz the battery was bad at the beginning.
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I wonder what makes our battery broken. I saw a lot of issues on battery. I bought my X2 in used condition. So,I don't know what cause all these issues coz the battery was bad at the beginning.
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Normal wear and tear imo. These phones at the oldest are 3 years old. It's just that the software or sensors or combo can't pick up the reduced capacity, causing the random shut downs. Cold weather certainly doesn't help.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
Normal wear and tear imo. These phones at the oldest are 3 years old. It's just that the software or sensors or combo can't pick up the reduced capacity, causing the random shut downs. Cold weather certainly doesn't help.
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My Moto G is 4 years old and the battery life is still great. No random shutdowns and it can even stand on 1%.
I've been looking into this more and am discovering that it shuts down around 3.0v. The thing is at 30% the battery pack is like 3.4-3.6v. If you launch a power hungry app or go out into the cold, it easily drops below 3. I lowered the maximum CPU to 2ghz and has seemed to help. Shut downs happen at 20% instead of 30-40%. I'm going to lower the cpu even more to see if there's a sweet spot.
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It's certainly a battery issue not software. It happens on stock or custom ROMs. After replacing my battery with a new one bought from eBay,it solved all those early shutting down issues.
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What seller did you buy it from? Are they still selling? How long ago did you install it? I've tried batteries from two different sellers with no improvements. I would love for this problem to have a solution.
Also I think I remember reading somewhere that the reason for these issues is that the battery is right up against the processor and the heat from the processor causes the battery to wear differently.
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I've been looking into this more and am discovering that it shuts down around 3.0v. The thing is at 30% the battery pack is like 3.4-3.6v. If you launch a power hungry app or go out into the cold, it easily drops below 3. I lowered the maximum CPU to 2ghz and has seemed to help. Shut downs happen at 20% instead of 30-40%. I'm going to lower the cpu even more to see if there's a sweet spot.
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I think victara clock speed is too high. By lowering the cpu speed,maybe it can fix all these issues. Nice trick,btw.
jryx said:
What seller did you buy it from? Are they still selling? How long ago did you install it? I've tried batteries from two different sellers with no improvements. I would love for this problem to have a solution.
Also I think I remember reading somewhere that the reason for these issues is that the battery is right up against the processor and the heat from the processor causes the battery to wear differently.
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I don't know the seller's name. My friend bought it for me. I installed it three months ago. And it's still working fine till today.
Mic43 said:
Someone tried using this battery?
Im experiencing same problemy and looking for a new battery.
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Never seen that one. I read a lot about changing batteries and many people said that if you do not use an original OEM Motorola battery that it will not fit right and it can cause problems putting the phone back together, as well as a problem with the speaker. It's because aftermarket batteries are very slightly thicker and they don't have the proper curve, or any curve, and so they don't fit right.
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It's certainly a battery issue not software. It happens on stock or custom ROMs. After replacing my battery with a new one bought from eBay,it solved all those early shutting down issues.
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Well, it's not entirely a battery issue. My replacement battery fixed the problem that I was having where my phone would shut off if I used the GPS heavily. But Today I experienced an early battery shut down issue again.
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I've been looking into this more and am discovering that it shuts down around 3.0v. The thing is at 30% the battery pack is like 3.4-3.6v. If you launch a power hungry app or go out into the cold, it easily drops below 3. I lowered the maximum CPU to 2ghz and has seemed to help. Shut downs happen at 20% instead of 30-40%. I'm going to lower the cpu even more to see if there's a sweet spot.
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I didn't think of this, silly me. Apple was busted last week for secretly underclocking their iPhone's CPUs when the system detected the battery degraded. To prevent this exact issue of random shutdowns.
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I think victara clock speed is too high. By lowering the cpu speed,maybe it can fix all these issues. Nice trick,btw.
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Yep too high for the degraded battery. When the batteries were healthy it was fine.
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A user on the Nexus 6 section is experiencing the same issue. For those not aware the Nexus 6 is like a big brother to the 2014 Moto X, same design. I found this post interesting about replacement batteries, as again this is the same issue with replacement batteries for the 2014 Moto X.
LaGgY_42o said:
Yep, bad battery, had to replace mine at the start of the year, if it's at 30-40% don't expect much more out of it, the battery can't put out the required voltage the system needs to hit clock speeds. Could limit clock speeds for a very temp fix if desperate lol.
Far as the battery goes, my advice is get one that's already bent into shape / curved. I made the mistake of getting a flat one and had to curve it myself which is basically impossible. Turns out the funny thing with the Nexus 6 is the shape of the battery fully dictates the shape of the midframe, if it's not perfect then the midframe bends to match the battery not the other way around, and you can imagine what this does to the entire phone since having a warped midframe + battery will make the entire device to fit the same form. Sitting mine on a level surface it is clear it is no longer straight. I've tried to redo it many times but repeatedly bending a battery is not very advisable :-/ lol.
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As I type this I am at 10%! I think this is confirmed CPU draws too many amps for a slightly degraded battery!! Right now I'm using kernal auditor and it applies settings after boot. You guys are much smarter than me though, is there a way to flash CPU settings so it applies even when booting??
Current settings are 300mhz min, 1500 input and 2000max, zero lag with Facebook, youtube, camera, ect. 2500mgh is too high!
My Note 8 has been great, I bought it last year brand spankers. But, since one week, after it drops to 15 percent, it just turns off. I have been using a genuine charger and rarely charge beyond 91-95... sometimes to a 100.
I know this issue has been addressed before but I have tried a cache wipe, a battery caliberation and a system wipe. it keeps doing this. I don't want to have a battery replacement since it would void warranty... anything I am missing out?
any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks everyone.
the biggest damage to batteries occurs precisely when going very low or completely depleted, not when going up to 100%
Have you tried taking your device to a Samsung Service Centre?
iceepyon said:
Have you tried taking your device to a Samsung Service Centre?
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Not exactly. I am at a different location where they're not entertaining my request. I spoke to them regarding this
winol said:
the biggest damage to batteries occurs precisely when going very low or completely depleted, not when going up to 100%
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But that does not answer my question.
jafferkhan said:
My Note 8 has been great, I bought it last year brand spankers. But, since one week, after it drops to 15 percent, it just turns off.
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Your battery is dead.
Get a new one at a Samsung Service Center or change it by yourself (Void Warranty).
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But that does not answer my question.
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the answer is implied, you tried to take care of your battery by not charging to 100%, but in fact you neglected the real reason why batteries fail prematurely, which is deep discharging or worst, totally depleting it, so the answer is, no way to fix your "battery drain" , only way to go is a new battery