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[Q] AT&T or T-mobile Variant?

I'm torn between purchasing an AT&T Note 3 or a T-Mobile one. I know the AT&T Note 3 bootloader will be locked and I will most likely have to wait for it to be unlocked and rooted if that is even possible since there is no one who has tried yet. The T-Mobile Note 3 will most likely have an unlocked bootloader but I've been reading around the forums and people are saying that you can not purchase the device with out a plan from T-Mobile even if you do pay for the device out right can I get some clarification on that? So which one would be best for my needs? I'm on AT&T currently and would like to stay with them but I do want root and an unlocked bootloader. What do you guys think? I know I posted this on the AT&T sub-forum but do you have any regrets of not pre-ordering a T-Mobile Note 3 instead? Thanks for your help and input!

GallardosEggrollShop said:
I'm torn between purchasing an AT&T Note 3 or a T-Mobile one. I know the AT&T Note 3 bootloader will be locked and I will most likely have to wait for it to be unlocked and rooted if that is even possible since there is no one who has tried yet. The T-Mobile Note 3 will most likely have an unlocked bootloader but I've been reading around the forums and people are saying that you can not purchase the device with out a plan from T-Mobile even if you do pay for the device out right can I get some clarification on that? So which one would be best for my needs? I'm on AT&T currently and would like to stay with them but I do want root and an unlocked bootloader. What do you guys think? I know I posted this on the AT&T sub-forum but do you have any regrets of not pre-ordering a T-Mobile Note 3 instead? Thanks for your help and input!
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I'm in the same boat
What I did was use my upgrade to get a GN3, I am going to sell that then for about 700 and buy and unlocked Tmobile GN3 from Negrielectronics.com so I'm spending around 400 dollars on a GN3 for Tmobile that has an unlocked bootloader and can use ATT's LTE.

Not a bad suggestion. Appreciate the input
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Pikezer1337 said:
I'm in the same boat
What I did was use my upgrade to get a GN3, I am going to sell that then for about 700 and buy and unlocked Tmobile GN3 from Negrielectronics.com so I'm spending around 400 dollars on a GN3 for Tmobile that has an unlocked bootloader and can use ATT's LTE.
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It doesn't seem very promising the idea that T-Mobile's Note 3 has an unlocked bootloader...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456617
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TEKHD said:
It doesn't seem very promising the idea that T-Mobile's Note 3 has an unlocked bootloader...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456617
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From the screen shots, it does not look like the bootloader is locked.. Its something to do with either flashing or the files used...
Bootloader is definitely unlocked or else we wont be seeing the commands that appear

Yeah I saw that as well. I'm gonna wait until there's proof that it is locked or unlocked. Hoping for the best lol.

GallardosEggrollShop said:
Yeah I saw that as well. I'm gonna wait until there's proof that it is locked or unlocked. Hoping for the best lol.
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Chainfire has released CF auto root for the tmobile variant. It uses the recovery method to root.

I have access to an att demo unit, but am unable to take it out of the store. How would I check the bootloader status in store?
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neubauej said:
I have access to an att demo unit, but am unable to take it out of the store. How would I check the bootloader status in store?
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The AT&T boot loader is locked. No need to check.

neubauej said:
I have access to an att demo unit, but am unable to take it out of the store. How would I check the bootloader status in store?
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You can't. Once the stock firmware has been released for the AT&T version(which it hasn't) a dev like chainfire will modify the recovery from it. If it flashes successfully then it is unlocked. If it fails then it is locked. It is very risky to test flash something without the stock firmware.

ATT version = locked boot loader
T-Mobile version = wireless charging disabled.

Acaibowl said:
T-Mobile version = wireless charging disabled.
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I haven't seen any reports of that yet on the Note 3. The Note 2 did have one of the pins not connected.

mircury said:
Chainfire has released CF auto root for the tmobile variant. It uses the recovery method to root.
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YAY! That's awesome, would I be able to buy it from T-Mobile out right and then get it unlocked using a third party service? Then use it on AT&T?

Acaibowl said:
ATT version = locked boot loader
T-Mobile version = wireless charging disabled.
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I was afraid of that ,
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GallardosEggrollShop said:
YAY! That's awesome, would I be able to buy it from T-Mobile out right and then get it unlocked using a third party service? Then use it on AT&T?
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Some people have said they were able to by the phone without service and some have not. Yes you can get it unlocked from a third party like cellunlocker.net. If you have a friend on Tmobile you might take them to lunch or something and stop by Tmobile. The phone doesn't have to be used on their account. I just think some store's are requiring an active account to buy it outright. I bought mine from Negri already unlocked. Still hasn't shipped yet though. For no tax I can wait.

Thanks for the advice! I just went to my local T-mobile and purchased one no questions asked. Granted it was 739$ before taxes and now I'm just waiting for my unlock code to be emailed to me by cellunlocker.net. overall very happy with my purchase.
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GallardosEggrollShop said:
Thanks for the advice! I just went to my local T-mobile and purchased one no questions asked. Granted it was 739$ before taxes and now I'm just waiting for my unlock code to be emailed to me by cellunlocker.net. overall very happy with my purchase.
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Did you have to buy a plan? I went in to a store they said $708 for device plus have to get a plan. And they only had black. I want white!
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Did you have to buy a plan? I went in to a store they said $708 for device plus have to get a plan. And they only had black. I want white!
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I didn't have to buy a plan all I said was I wanted to buy a Note 3 for full retail. She rang my purchase out and I had the box in my hands. It ended up being 739$ plus tax instead of the normal 708$ but it was worth it. The sales associate didn't hassle me or anything about a plan. It's a mixed bag I guess some people on the forums had to get a plan but I was lucky enough not to.

GallardosEggrollShop said:
Thanks for the advice! I just went to my local T-mobile and purchased one no questions asked. Granted it was 739$ before taxes and now I'm just waiting for my unlock code to be emailed to me by cellunlocker.net. overall very happy with my purchase.
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Was it a dealer or corporate store?

It was a corporate store they had one black one left and I took it . Also an update on the unlock. It took about 2 hours but my Note 3 is now unlocked and using AT&T's LTE network. Getting about the same speeds as I was when using my iPhone 5. Extremely happy with my purchase!
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When will we have AOSP Roms?

As the title states, just wondering what the holdup is on us getting AOSP Roms seeing as how we currently have root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance to any who attempt to answer this question!

Ghstudent said:
As the title states, just wondering what the holdup is on us getting AOSP Roms seeing as how we currently have root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance to any who attempt to answer this question!
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Well our bootloader is locked. You need custom Kernals for anything other than TouchWiz ROMS.
I have seen some pretty close to AOSP roms with the right dev but we will NEVER have AOSP roms on this phone.
Only if Samsung had it like HTC's website for the M8. They have the option to unlock their bootloaders. SMH
Samsung, Verizon, and At&t are losing customers / sells due to this BS

LuckyColdJohnson said:
Well our bootloader is locked. You need custom Kernals for anything other than TouchWiz ROMS.
I have seen some pretty close to AOSP roms with the right dev but we will NEVER have AOSP roms on this phone.
Only if Samsung had it like HTC's website for the M8. They have the option to unlock their bootloaders. SMH
Samsung, Verizon, and At&t are losing customers / sells due to this BS
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Don't we always have this problem with carrier branded phones and the developers always find a way around it? I recall having issues like this all the way back to the S2, but I eventually got AOSP ROMs on it.

Ghstudent said:
Don't we always have this problem with carrier branded phones and the developers always find a way around it? I recall having issues like this all the way back to the S2, but I eventually got AOSP ROMs on it.
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Times have changed. Its sucks I know. Started with the Note 3 for me.

LuckyColdJohnson said:
Times have changed. Its sucks I know. Started with the Note 3 for me.
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So there is absolutely no way that AT&T will unlock the boot loader?

Ghstudent said:
So there is absolutely no way that AT&T will unlock the boot loader?
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I doubt it bro. I was waiting for it to happen with the Note 3 and it never did.
Note 2 > Awesome. Miss it
Note 3 > GPS issues and Locked bootloader.
S 5 > Laggy, Slow, Locked Bootloader.
S 5 Active > Awesome. Locked Bootloader.
I want the M8 to try out now. HTC is actually making money and sells are going up. HTC is on to something
Samsung, SMH. Starting to disappoint me now. From the Note 3 to this phone has been sucky.
This Active is my last Samsung device on At&t.

LuckyColdJohnson said:
I doubt it bro. I was waiting for it to happen with the Note 3 and it never did.
Note 2 > Awesome. Miss it
Note 3 > GPS issues and Locked bootloader.
S 5 > Laggy, Slow, Locked Bootloader.
S 5 Active > Awesome. Locked Bootloader.
I want the M8 to try out now. HTC is actually making money and sells are going up. HTC is on to something
Samsung, SMH. Starting to disappoint me now. From the Note 3 to this phone has been sucky.
This Active is my last Samsung device on At&t.
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If your interested I have started an online petition to get the bootloader unlocked. Maybe, maybe not. But I think it's worth a shot. Petition is linked to att c.e.o. Randall stephenson. Here's a link
https://www.change.org/petitions/att-give-us-the-freedom-to-modify-and-build-unlock-our-bootloaders
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GDofWR420 said:
If your interested I have started an online petition to get the bootloader unlocked. Maybe, maybe not. But I think it's worth a shot. Petition is linked to att c.e.o. Randall stephenson. Here's a link
https://www.change.org/petitions/att-give-us-the-freedom-to-modify-and-build-unlock-our-bootloaders
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Thanks. We did one for the Note 3 too and got it up really high. Thousands of people helped out.

LuckyColdJohnson said:
Thanks. We did one for the Note 3 too and got it up really high. Thousands of people helped out.
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Hopefully persistence will pay off
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[Q] will vzw nexus 6 have locked bootloader?

With big red's habit of keeping their users from actually customizing their devices, would it be safe to assume that they are going to lock the bootloader on the nexus 6 just like they did with my gorgeous - but bone stock - GS5? (SM-G900V)
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To be honest, I am scared of Verizons evil deeds, but I can see Google putting up a fight for too much carrier customization. At worst, maybe sim locked and a Verizon logo. Same thing as ATT did, but that's why u get the unlocked version from the Play store, Motorola, Sprint, or T-Mobile.

but that's why u get the unlocked version from the Play store, Motorola, Sprint, or T-Mobile.
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- TRUE
Of course, I'm on a federal vzw plan at work, which means unlimited data, (which i ain't about to give up) and means vzw retail devices, straight from big red..... Doh!

Bone stock galaxy s5? A bit of an oxymoron.
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illushinz said:
With big red's habit of keeping their users from actually customizing their devices, would it be safe to assume that they are going to lock the bootloader on the nexus 6 just like they did with my gorgeous - but bone stock - GS5? (SM-G900V)
Thx!
~illushinz
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No. If the bootloader couldn't easily be unlocked, it wouldn't be a Nexus. It would be a Droid Turdo.

illushinz said:
With big red's habit of keeping their users from actually customizing their devices, would it be safe to assume that they are going to lock the bootloader on the nexus 6 just like they did with my gorgeous - but bone stock - GS5? (SM-G900V)
Thx!
~illushinz
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But there has been no word that they will really get one...and if so not soon

akellar said:
Bone stock galaxy s5? A bit of an oxymoron.
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Lol, quite true
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I too am beginning to wonder if they are going to even get it.

illushinz said:
With big red's habit of keeping their users from actually customizing their devices, would it be safe to assume that they are going to lock the bootloader on the nexus 6 just like they did with my gorgeous - but bone stock - GS5? (SM-G900V)
Thx!
~illushinz
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Yes, they most certainly will lock the bootloader

mikaeldalc said:
To be honest, I am scared of Verizons evil deeds, but I can see Google putting up a fight for too much carrier customization. At worst, maybe sim locked and a Verizon logo. Same thing as ATT did, but that's why u get the unlocked version from the Play store, Motorola, Sprint, or T-Mobile.
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VZW doesn't SIM lock devices anymore.
They will, however, encrypt bootloaders.

Not a snowball's chance in hell that the bootloader will be locked.
Mark this post and come back and thank it when you see I'm right. I'll donate money to charity if I'm wrong.

aes512 said:
Yes, they most certainly will lock the bootloader
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But it will be unlockable easily.

Ordered from moto. Popped in Sim from Verizon. Unlocked and rooted. F big red

bmwh0r3 said:
Ordered from moto. Popped in Sim from Verizon. Unlocked and rooted. F big red
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Got mine from best buy. Same thing - Sim in and away I went.
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Man I wish I wasn't locked into big red......
~illushinz
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It's hopeless
Mark MY words and come back to it and if I'm wrong I will donate to charity. The Nexus 6 will NOT be coming to Verizon. They will release a very very similar phone all marked up with Verizon labels with some type of "Droid" branding called the super duper turbo that will indeed have a locked bootloader and all sorts of bloat ware crap strung throughout the Motorola skinned app drawer... sorry I'm just a bitter Verizon customer stuck in a harsh reality!

If you can afford it, buy from google or Motorola. Slap in a nano Sim card from Verizon. It works. Got my nexus Thursday and swapped the Sim out of my moto x. Been using it since. Sold my moto x along with my note 3. Downloaded youmail and unsubscribed from Verizon visual voicemail.

I don't see why it would be locked. The Galaxy Nexus wasn't. I'm so glad my Galaxy Nexus SIM card works on the nsix. Lol with a serious trimming down...

illushinz said:
Man I wish I wasn't locked into big red......
~illushinz
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you can't buy it on your own from moto or play? i did and dropped my VZW sim from the moto x in it and it works great !

illushinz said:
Man I wish I wasn't locked into big red......
~illushinz
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I got my N6 directly from Moto and popped in my VZW sim without a hitch.
I'll say this... I used my OnePlus on TMobile for 6 months and their network is TRASH in comparison. This was after a summer of traveling around the U.S., traveling for work, and a few driving getaways. If TMo works in your neighborhood and you never leave it, then more power to you. If not, I'm here to tell you, VZW may be a-holes when it comes to devices but their network is no joke. Don't suffer from "the grass-is-greener" syndrome.

Verizon version owners

Is there anyone else who will get their Nexus 6 from Verizon? I will give it a try for a couple of weeks assuming I can easily root and install a custom recovery.

Nope. Got mine months ago and am already using it on Verizon.

I know I am wayyy late but there must be a person or two who will buy it.

ronaldheld said:
I know I am wayyy late but there must be a person or two who will buy it.
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Safe to say multiple people will buy it. Not sure what the point of this is?

I just changed my mind about getting this phone and wondered how many on Verizon will be doing the same.

ronaldheld said:
I just changed my mind about getting this phone and wondered how many on Verizon will be doing the same.
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4,568

I will be getting it. I doubt it will be locked down as bad as their Samsung devices.
Since it is a Nexus device we won't have to worry about kernels and locked bootloaders.

johnciaccio said:
I will be getting it. I doubt it will be locked down as bad as their Samsung devices.
Since it is a Nexus device we won't have to worry
Anyone see this, as it concerns me: http://rootzwiki.com/news/verizon-might-allow-unlock-nexus-6-bootloader-just-crazy/
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ronaldheld said:
johnciaccio said:
I will be getting it. I doubt it will be locked down as bad as their Samsung devices.
Since it is a Nexus device we won't have to worry
Anyone see this, as it concerns me: http://rootzwiki.com/news/verizon-might-allow-unlock-nexus-6-bootloader-just-crazy/
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4 month old opinion article on a dead website.
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akellar said:
ronaldheld said:
4 month old opinion article on a dead website.
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This is true, but we know how Verizon likes to lock up their phones. I am more optimistic than a few hours ago.
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i dont like verizon, so ill never be on verizon, but fastboot oem unlock IS a nexus feature, introduced to us through the nexus one and every nexus after. while verizons version can be sim locked, all nexus come with an unlockable bootloader, even if the provider doesnt like it. and im pretty sure that this fact wont change. heck, im pretty sure the att version would have had a locked bootloader, if they were allowed to add that in.

simms22 said:
i dont like verizon, so ill never be on verizon, but fastboot oem unlock IS a nexus feature, introduced to us through the nexus one and every nexus after. while verizons version can be sim locked, all nexus come with an unlockable bootloader, even if the provider doesnt like it. and im pretty sure that this fact wont change. heck, im pretty sure the att version would have had a locked bootloader, if they were allowed to add that in.[/QUOTEI am only slightly concerned.
Verizon tends to be pretty good about upgrades and such which is why I am with them.
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Except for the locked phones I am reasonable satisfied with Verizon.

Question about buying a new Nexus 6

Hi guys. Question, I am about to purchase an "unlocked" New 6. Seller says it is ATT and he will include an unlock code. Doesn't every nexus come unlocked? I thought if I simply factory reset without a sim in it it will just default to an unlocked phone... Any help on this would be appreciated. Reason is I can buy it with the factory stickers and screen cover still on it for $200. I think that's a great deal.

AT&T Nexus 6 is locked. You will need that unlock code.
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alphahere said:
AT&T Nexus 6 is locked. You will need that unlock code.
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Once I get that unlock code, will it have any bloat from ATT or be held back by att as far as updates if I stick my tmobile sim card in it?

boot up the first time without your att sim in it, just wifi, then it wont have any att bloat.

simms22 said:
boot up the first time without your att sim in it, just wifi, then it wont have any att bloat.
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Thanks guys!