Locked, No Root backup.? - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there an app. to back up all my apps. with locked bootloader & non Rooted.?
I have Titanium Backup Pro, used for a few years now, but having trouble unlocking my Moto X XT1095 PE..
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XT1064 Moto G (2nd Gen.)
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Why doing a backup if you're not going to change rom?
Worst case you have to redownload apps. Documents etc can be easly saved on pc

michyall said:
Why doing a backup if you're not going to change rom?
Worst case you have to redownload apps. Documents etc can be easly saved on pc
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Thanks for your reply..

Don't know if your answer is ironic but i simply can't understand why backup is needed if you're not going to change rom.
If you are going to unlock bootloader and rooting you have to re-download apps and if you have tons of apps my answer is: i don't know if there is a way to backup. My brother told me about helium app but he tried once with no happy results.

NWKENT said:
Is there an app. to back up all my apps. with locked bootloader & non Rooted.?
I have Titanium Backup Pro, used for a few years now, but having trouble unlocking my Moto X XT1095 PE..
sent by my:
4.4.4_21.11.17.titan
XT1064 Moto G (2nd Gen.)
http://waynekent.com/page6.html
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For me this is the best after titanium https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup

michyall said:
Don't know if your answer is ironic but i simply can't understand why backup is needed if you're not going to change rom.
If you are going to unlock bootloader and rooting you have to re-download apps and if you have tons of apps my answer is: i don't know if there is a way to backup. My brother told me about helium app but he tried once with no happy results.
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Why does it matter so much to you? He wants to back his stuff up, who cares what the reason is?

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Getting Started on Moto X

Background: Just received my Moto X yesterday (Ebony back, black front, silver trim, SEXY!!!). I'm coming from a Droid 4 (tired of waiting on Droid 5) and I'm hoping you guys can help point me in the right direction by answering a few general questions for me. I've browsed through some of the forums already but since the Moto X has been out a little while now there is a LOT to wade through. So....
1. What is the current state of root on the Moto X? The last I saw there is not an easy root method for Moto X on KitKat. Is that still true?
2. On my D4 we did not really have options when it come to recoveries. It was safestrap, which is great, but that was it. I think I saw a safestrap for Moto X thread somewhere but are there other recoveries like TWRP or CWM available?
3. Probably a stupid questions but what is the difference between the "Moto X Android Development" forum and the "Moto X Original Android Development" forum?
Really love the XDA community and looking forward to getting started with my Moto X and finding ways to contribute. Thanks!
Read through the dev sections ....and all will be revealed.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
kj2112 said:
Read through the dev sections ....and all will be revealed.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Not afraid of a little reading. Just trying to figure out where to start. Can you at least clarify what the difference is between the "Android Development" and "Original Android Development" sections?
kj2112 said:
Read through the dev sections ....and all will be revealed.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Read the sticky explaining the differences in the original android development section.
sent from Moto X
Jizzylax said:
Read the sticky explaining the differences in the original android development section.
sent from Moto X
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Totally missed the sticky. Thanks for the heads up.
kj2112 said:
Read through the dev sections ....and all will be revealed.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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OK, So I have read through a whole bunch of stuff now and I think I have root figured out. What I cannot seem to figure it out is the recovery situation. All the recoveries I see are for "Recovery Unlocked" or "Unlocked Bootloader" devices. I just have a plain old non-dev edition Moto X. Are there no compatible recoveries for regular non-dev edition Moto Xs?
kwyrt said:
OK, So I have read through a whole bunch of stuff now and I think I have root figured out. What I cannot seem to figure it out is the recovery situation. All the recoveries I see are for "Recovery Unlocked" or "Unlocked Bootloader" devices. I just have a plain old non-dev edition Moto X. Are there no compatible recoveries for regular non-dev edition Moto Xs?
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You need an unlocked bootloader to use custom recoveries. But it isn't just dev edition that can be unlocked.
If you can't or don't want to unlock your bootloader (which voids your warranty), then you can't use a custom recovery.
You can still root....but no custom recovery. Which means no flashing from recovery...since stock doesn't flash.
Again....this is all in the dev section....and Google can help you find this stuff too.
I can't help further, I'm not an expert at the unlocked bootloader root stuff, as I unlocked my bootloader on day one.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
kj2112 said:
You need an unlocked bootloader to use custom recoveries. But it isn't just dev edition that can be unlocked.
If you can't or don't want to unlock your bootloader (which voids your warranty), then you can't use a custom recovery.
You can still root....but no custom recovery. Which means no flashing from recovery...since stock doesn't flash.
Again....this is all in the dev section....and Google can help you find this stuff too.
I can't help further, I'm not an expert at the unlocked bootloader root stuff, as I unlocked my bootloader on day one.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Thanks. I didn't see any threads related to unlocking the bootloader but I'll keep looking. Thanks again for the information.
kwyrt said:
Thanks. I didn't see any threads related to unlocking the bootloader but I'll keep looking. Thanks again for the information.
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You have to unlock the boot loader at Motorola's website. That way they know and your warranty is void. Lol
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kj2112 said:
You have to unlock the boot loader at Motorola's website. That way they know and your warranty is void. Lol
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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Well poop. Looks like the normal VZ version is not supported by Moto's bootloader unlock program.
kwyrt said:
Well poop. Looks like the normal VZ version is not supported by Moto's bootloader unlock program.
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Well...you're familiar with safestrap already....that's a positive.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
kj2112 said:
Well...you're familiar with safestrap already....that's a positive.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Yep. There's that at least. LOL
Makes things simple. Root, install safestrap, and enjoy!
kwyrt said:
Background: Just received my Moto X yesterday (Ebony back, black front, silver trim, SEXY!!!). I'm coming from a Droid 4 (tired of waiting on Droid 5) and I'm hoping you guys can help point me in the right direction by answering a few general questions for me. I've browsed through some of the forums already but since the Moto X has been out a little while now there is a LOT to wade through. So....
1. What is the current state of root on the Moto X? The last I saw there is not an easy root method for Moto X on KitKat. Is that still true?
2. On my D4 we did not really have options when it come to recoveries. It was safestrap, which is great, but that was it. I think I saw a safestrap for Moto X thread somewhere but are there other recoveries like TWRP or CWM available?
3. Probably a stupid questions but what is the difference between the "Moto X Android Development" forum and the "Moto X Original Android Development" forum?
Really love the XDA community and looking forward to getting started with my Moto X and finding ways to contribute. Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49260947#post49260947

root question

so i have a xt1060 verizon moto x, and was gonna unlock the bootloader with sunshine, but how would i go about rooting it? i assume just installing superSU is not enough, also is there any restrictions i should know about? i sure have lots of phones i have rooted but Motorola has always been weird.
Trozzul said:
so i have a xt1060 verizon moto x, and was gonna unlock the bootloader with sunshine, but how would i go about rooting it? i assume just installing superSU is not enough, also is there any restrictions i should know about? i sure have lots of phones i have rooted but Motorola has always been weird.
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Sir..once the bootloader is unlocked, you'll need to install a custom recovery, TWRP or CWM..the stock recovery will be of no use..then with a custom recovery, you would gain Root by installing SuperSU from the custom recovery..no other restrictions that I can think of..
KEEP IN MIND..during the bootloader unlock process..your device storage will be erased, you will loose personal data..back up your data FIRST..
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Jaocagomez Debloated ROM
4.4.4_21.11.21 (Unlocked)
XT1080M Droid Maxx #2
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NWKENT said:
Sir..once the bootloader is unlocked, you'll need to install a custom recovery, TWRP or CWM..the stock recovery will be of no use..then with a custom recovery, you would gain Root by installing SuperSU from the custom recovery..no other restrictions that I can think of..
KEEP IN MIND..during the bootloader unlock process..your device storage will be erased, you will loose personal data..back up your data FIRST..
Sent from my:
Jaocagomez Debloated ROM
4.4.4_21.11.21 (Unlocked)
XT1080M Droid Maxx #2
http://waynekent.com/page6.html
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Sounds cool man, thank you very much! its so stupid of me that i wouldnt remember that, soooo i should only flash xt1060 roms right? i know theres a xt1060 Offical CYANOGENMOD rom on their website but they think that we are only able to unlock our bootloaders if we have a dev edition, would it be safe to flash that? also where would i get CWM for this new booloader unlock method, or would it be the same as all others?
Trozzul said:
Sounds cool man, thank you very much! its so stupid of me that i wouldnt remember that, soooo i should only flash xt1060 roms right? i know theres a xt1060 Offical CYANOGENMOD rom on their website but they think that we are only able to unlock our bootloaders if we have a dev edition, would it be safe to flash that? also where would i get CWM for this new booloader unlock method, or would it be the same as all others?
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I use stock ROM's only..maybe Debloated..but mostly stock..don't have the time to fool with all the "crap" with a custom ROM..anyhow..if the ROM is for a XT1060..then I would certainly think you'd be OK..but as I said..stock for me only, I use to flash a lot of ROM's but was always battling some function that didn't function..and realized, I was not enjoying my devices..So I swore OFF custom ROM's..now I do mostly testing for Dev's and so on..
BTW..I own a XT1060 Moto X Developer Edition..but if your bootloader is unlocked, then your device would be likened to a DEV Edition, except for the logo and white back shell (back panel)..
I use TWRP only..If CWM is a must for you, then their site should have what you need, or here in XDA..BE SURE the custom recovery version is for the Moto X "ghost"..no other will install/work properly..the code name for Moto X is "ghost"..so any recovery MUST be developed for your " ghost" device..there are TWRP versions that is developed for the Moto X "ghost" and the "obake" Droid Maxx and Ultra..same version works with all three code names..DON'T KNOW about CWM..
Sent from my:
Jaocagomez Debloated ROM
4.4.4_21.11.21 (Unlocked)
XT1080M Droid Maxx #2
http://waynekent.com/page6.html
"Praise Jah" YOU people.!
NWKENT said:
I use stock ROM's only..maybe Debloated..but mostly stock..don't have the time to fool with all the "crap" with a custom ROM..anyhow..if the ROM is for a XT1060..then I would certainly think you'd be OK..but as I said..stock for me only, I use to flash a lot of ROM's but was always battling some function that didn't function..and realized, I was not enjoying my devices..So I swore OFF custom ROM's..now I do mostly testing for Dev's and so on..
BTW..I own a XT1060 Moto X Developer Edition..but if your bootloader is unlocked, then your device would be likened to a DEV Edition, except for the logo and white back shell (back panel)..
I use TWRP only..If CWM is a must for you, then their site should have what you need, or here in XDA..BE SURE the custom recovery version is for the Moto X "ghost"..no other will install/work properly..the code name for Moto X is "ghost"..so any recovery MUST be developed for your " ghost" device..there are TWRP versions that is developed for the Moto X "ghost" and the "obake" Droid Maxx and Ultra..same version works with all three code names..DON'T KNOW about CWM..
Sent from my:
Jaocagomez Debloated ROM
4.4.4_21.11.21 (Unlocked)
XT1080M Droid Maxx #2
http://waynekent.com/page6.html
"Praise Jah" YOU people.!
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Thank you very much! that should be all i need!
Always start with the stickies...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2826159 ?
KJ said:
Always start with the stickies...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2826159 ?
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i infact did look at that like 5 times before each time i get excited about moto x news, its really not updated and what i mean is it only says people on 4.4.4 with locked bootloaders cant unlock their bootloader and root the devices, sure theres a link for CWM but it also does not say how to install it.
Trozzul said:
i infact did look at that like 5 times before each time i get excited about moto x news, its really not updated and what i mean is it only says people on 4.4.4 with locked bootloaders cant unlock their bootloader and root the devices, sure theres a link for CWM but it also does not say how to install it.
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People on 4.4.4 can't root with a locked boot loader is what it says. And that remains true. It doesn't say you can't unlock the boot loader though. No where does it say that. It's a thread with a collection of root methods....it's not about unlocking.
And cmw is also not mentioned, it may be in a thread that is linked to in the one stop shop, but not in the root thread itself.
Just wanted to be clear, as far as rooting goes....it's completely up to date. Read it a little more carefully. ?
If anything changes with root methods, it will be updated. A link to a Sunshine guide will be included as well, if there is one made. If there already is, I've missed it. A member said he was making one, but I haven't seen it yet.
And if anything that thread links to is out of date, the maintainer of those threads should be notified. ?
KJ said:
People on 4.4.4 can't root with a locked boot loader is what it says. And that remains true. It doesn't say you can't unlock the boot loader though. No where does it say that. It's a thread with a collection of root methods....it's not about unlocking.
And cmw is also not mentioned, it may be in a thread that is linked to in the one stop shop, but not in the root thread itself.
Just wanted to be clear, as far as rooting goes....it's completely up to date. Read it a little more carefully. ?
If anything changes with root methods, it will be updated. A link to a Sunshine guide will be included as well, if there is one made. If there already is, I've missed it. A member said he was making one, but I haven't seen it yet.
And if anything that thread links to is out of date, the maintainer of those threads should be notified. ?
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this here is what i was talking about with unlocking the bootloader on 4.4.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471 even on devices that cant be (i think that includes Verizon and AT&T including the droid maxx and moto g on verizon), it was released a few days ago and you are able to buy it now.
Trozzul said:
this here is what i was talking about with unlocking the bootloader on 4.4.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471 even on devices that cant be (i think that includes Verizon and AT&T including the droid maxx and moto g on verizon), it was released a few days ago and you are able to buy it now.
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Yes. I know all about that.
But you said the one stop shop root thread is out dated.....and my friend, it is not.
Once your boot loader is unlocked, it's no different than any unlocked X...which is covered in the first section of the One Stop Shop.
How you unlock is irrelevant to the rooting thread I thought we were discussing.
Someone said he was making a Sunshine tutorial thread. If that ever happens, I will mention it in the Root thread. ?
Until then, it's not in there cause there is no clear, straight forward thread on it.
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And again...all the One Stop Shop says about Rooting 4.4.4 is that you can't with a locked bootloader, and again...that is 100% accurate. ?
KJ said:
Yes. I know all about that.
But you said the one stop shop root thread is out dated.....and my friend, it is not.
Once your boot loader is unlocked, it's no different than any unlocked X...which is covered in the first section of the One Stop Shop.
How you unlock is irrelevant to the rooting thread I thought we were discussing.
Someone said he was making a Sunshine tutorial thread. If that ever happens, I will mention it in the Root thread. ?
Until then, it's not in there cause there is no clear, straight forward thread on it.
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And again...all the One Stop Shop says about Rooting 4.4.4 is that you can't with a locked bootloader, and again...that is 100% accurate. ?
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ah my bad man, im pretty damn stupid when i bring multiple things into a conversation and mix them up and stuff. thanks for the link.
Trozzul said:
ah my bad man, im pretty damn stupid when i bring multiple things into a conversation and mix them up and stuff. thanks for the link.
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Was just making sure you didn't see something I missed really. ??

[Q] moto g and Lollipop

I have updated my wife's phone to Lollipop well a few days ago and she HATES IT how do i drop back to the 4.4 i think she was on is it as simple as a wipe / format to manufacturers original.?? will that return it to the original version?? and how do stop google from syncing contacts the phone was set to not sync yet it has......
She had a HTC Desire before this phone and loved it she hates this moto g..... LOL
radicaldoc said:
I have updated my wife's phone to Lollipop well a few days ago and she HATES IT how do i drop back to the 4.4 i think she was on is it as simple as a wipe / format to manufacturers original.?? will that return it to the original version?? and how do stop google from syncing contacts the phone was set to not sync yet it has......
She had a HTC Desire before this phone and loved it she hates this moto g..... LOL
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There's a tool for that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...dows-tool-moto-g-2014-xt1064-restore-t2957167
Duck86 said:
There's a tool for that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...dows-tool-moto-g-2014-xt1064-restore-t2957167
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Thanks for that but her's is a XT1032.. that appears to be for other models..
radicaldoc said:
Thanks for that but her's is a XT1032.. that appears to be for other models..
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This is the Moto G 2nd gen area, it would probably be best to ask in the Moto G threads. Take a look at the various threads in the below forum if you haven't already. There are quite a few on flashing 4.4.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development
And a thread about restoring stock firmware in the first thread of the General area.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general
Tel864 said:
This is the Moto G 2nd gen area, it would probably be best to ask in the Moto G threads. Take a look at the various threads in the below forum if you haven't already. There are quite a few on flashing 4.4.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development
And a thread about restoring stock firmware in the first thread of the General area.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general
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Sorry i thought this was the right place Moto G 2014
radicaldoc said:
Sorry i thought this was the right place Moto G 2014
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XT1032 is the first gen Moto G, this is the forum for the second gen
radicaldoc said:
Sorry i thought this was the right place Moto G 2014
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LOL it is. But the G 2014 is the 2nd gen and you said she had a XT1032 which is the original Moto G 2013.
Tel864 said:
LOL it is. But the G 2014 is the 2nd gen and you said she had a XT1032 which is the original Moto G 2013.
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Ah ok thanks..

Some thing to look in to devs

New root method found for 2014 moto x for at. Maybe it can be modified to work with droid turbo and get us wp off?!
Same method as mofo --- no wp-off
No bueno
At least its free tho
Someone could make a free version of mofo if they wanted. Personally, I wouldn't, purely out of respect.
Someone care to post the link for root on the x2 2014?
All I find is the lollipop root achieved but that is for an unlocked boot only.
aviwdoowks said:
Someone care to post the link for root on the x2 2014?
All I find is the lollipop root achieved but that is for an unlocked boot only.
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I accidentally missed the fact that it was for the 2013 model(s), not the 2014, but here you go anyways.
EDIT: Could've sworn I added a link. Was super tired.
r3pwn said:
I accidentally missed the fact that it was for the 2013 model(s), not the 2014, but here you go anyways.
EDIT: Could've sworn I added a link. Was super tired.
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Right crashxxl original moto x

Root app for moto x pure 2nd gen MM (HELP)

Hi new to moto x forums, just got my moto x pure 2nd gen and updated to MM now i need to root it but i dont have PC. Is there anyway i can root my phone using root app or is there a root app for moto x 2nd gen pure MM? Thanks sorry for my bad english.
t0per666 said:
Hi new to moto x forums, just got my moto x pure 2nd gen and updated to MM now i need to root it but i dont have PC. Is there anyway i can root my phone using root app or is there a root app for moto x 2nd gen pure MM? Thanks sorry for my bad english.
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Not that I heard of any.
You first have to unlock the bootloader (offical way from motorola website) and then flash through twrp supersu..
There are one click root apps but they don't support our device (heard on 5.1 it is but anything on 6.0). You can give a shot to Kingroot.
OrenGazala said:
Not that I heard of any.
You first have to unlock the bootloader (offical way from motorola website) and then flash through twrp supersu..
There are one click root apps but they don't support our device (heard on 5.1 it is but anything on 6.0). You can give a shot to Kingroot.
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I wont try kingroot but thanks anyway i dont want to brick my device cos i dont have pc to unbrick if it goes bad.
Never try king ! It will brick your device.
t0per666 said:
I wont try kingroot but thanks anyway i dont want to brick my device cos i dont have pc to unbrick if it goes bad.
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Just wait when you'll be near a computer and that's it..
OrenGazala said:
Just wait when you'll be near a computer and that's it..
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Yep i go to my brothers house and borrow his pc, im in CM ROM MM right now im on 6/3 build. Unlocked bootloader and TWRP flashed so far so good no issues.
t0per666 said:
Yep i go to my brothers house and borrow his pc, im in CM ROM MM right now im on 6/3 build. Unlocked bootloader and TWRP flashed so far so good no issues.
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Excellent!!
Update us how it's going.

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