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Ok so I love android and all of it's openness and mods. I like to modify all electronics that I have. But the only problem I have with it is that it isn't smooth. I have had an iPhone in the past and it was smooth. It just confuses me how 1ghz can lag on a mobile os. I guess this rant is to ask how do I smooth the edges. I've tried many roms and some were better than others. One major thing I want is when I unlock it, when I slide homescreen, and when I open the app drawer to be smooth. Any ideas settings roms?
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Read through a lot of threads, and understand that there isn't what you're looking for. You might try MIUI, people report it as smooth - never tried it personally. Also, for launcher use LauncherPro, it's smooth.
About the gigahertz stuff: CPU speed doesn't matter as much as SW does. And there is no "smoothness support" yet.
Android isn't smooth. It's powerful, though. Personally, I like the trade off.
jakeneal22 said:
Ok so I love android and all of it's openness and mods. I like to modify all electronics that I have. But the only problem I have with it is that it isn't smooth. I have had an iPhone in the past and it was smooth. It just confuses me how 1ghz can lag on a mobile os. I guess this rant is to ask how do I smooth the edges. I've tried many roms and some were better than others. One major thing I want is when I unlock it, when I slide homescreen, and when I open the app drawer to be smooth. Any ideas settings roms?
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delete all your apps, turn off all services, and it will run just like the iphone. kill every app after you use it. - that's what the iphone does.
You can tweak the internal task killer to speed up your phone. It takes some work and testing. This thread has the directions and explanations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
Geo411m's ROM has these tweaks built in and they work really well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7008637&highlight=internal+task+killer#post7008637
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You can tweak the internal task killer to speed up your phone. It takes some work and testing. This thread has the directions and explanations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
Geo411m's ROM has these tweaks built in and they work really well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7008637&highlight=internal+task+killer#post7008637
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This has been useless since Froyo. As I once researched and posted, Froyo kills the processes much earlier than Eclair (OOM=12 instead of 16) and considering the amount of memory on Nexus - you never get anywhere below 100MB free unless you run a super-heavy app, and those never stay in background.
Now these tweaks don't do a thing.
does power mean smoothness? I just don't get the concept of having a fast processor and not being smooth. I mean it is almost the same speed as my netbook... on a phone. It seems like that should be smooth. Maybe I'm asking for to much. But another thing I have seen videos of people on cyanogen and it is running smoothly with a live wallpaper. I have never got cyanogen to run smoothly for me even with a still wallpaper. Is there some magical setting everyone but me knows about?
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Read through a lot of threads, and understand that there isn't what you're looking for. You might try MIUI, people report it as smooth - never tried it personally. Also, for launcher use LauncherPro, it's smooth.
About the gigahertz stuff: CPU speed doesn't matter as much as SW does. And there is no "smoothness support" yet.
Android isn't smooth. It's powerful, though. Personally, I like the trade off.
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Power = ability to do things. Not CPU power, OS power.
Smoothness = frame rate of transitions between screens in UI. By most part, it's a result of heavy GPU utilization (which Android doesn't do stock) and programming that puts graphics as top priority (which isn't the case with Android). When CPU is made busy making beautiful graphics, it makes beautiful graphics. When it's not the main concern - it makes what it makes.
Again, you seem to be complaining about the launcher - otherwise you wouldn't bring this live wallpaper thing. So go download LauncherPro.
Folks go on about miui being smooth but personally I found it quite choppy at times, and this was most evident using the miui default launcher and comparing to say an iPhone 4, it looks very stuttery. Its better with launcherpro, but then you've lost half the reason for using it.
I am using cm6 and a theme (minimal matte fwiw ) and its very smooth and nice looking (and believe me I am very sensitive to, and loathe slow performance on a latest Gen phone).
Best compromise I've found yet on android.
I use the latest CM6 nightlies with Launcher Pro Plus and have a lot of widgets on my homescreen, smooth as butter.
I do remember the homescreen being a bit choppy when I ran 2.1 on my N1 though...
Have you messed with the performance settings? I hear that switching the performance setting to 24 instead of 34 helps. I'm not on cyanogen right now so I don't remember the exact setting but it is cyan settings then performance.
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I use the latest CM6 nightlies with Launcher Pro Plus and have a lot of widgets on my homescreen, smooth as butter.
I do remember the homescreen being a bit choppy when I ran 2.1 on my N1 though...
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Truth of the matter is, is that Android running as SMOOTH as an iPhone would be difficult, simply because the IOS operating system doesnt allow any applications to run in the background. Android has TONS of apps that run in the background, and its still smooth as hell if your running the right ROM.
In all honestly, as much as I LOVE enomther and cyan ROMS, MIUI is hands down the smoothest and fastest ROM I have ever used. Give it a shot. I promise that if you can get past the iPhonish look, you will LOVE the speed and fluidness of the ROM. I cant recommend it enough.
I have used the miui roms and they are awesome. But honestly I just feel like a sell out while running them.
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I have used the miui roms and they are awesome. But honestly I just feel like a sell out while running them.
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Lol. Why? Because it's iPhone-like? That's a pretty bad reason to not use a great rom...
Possibly I don't know. Do you suggest a bundle or do you suggest the original with langauge packs
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Possibly I don't know. Do you suggest a bundle or do you suggest the original with langauge packs
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The reason why even iPhone 3G's can feel "smoother" than Android phones at most times: hardware acceleration.
Ever since the 2G they've had a dedicated GPU which was used to its fullest in basic UI interactions. We see phones like the SGS with freak GPUs but Android doesn't allow full use of them.
Phandroid made that article on a supposed "Gingerbread" leak. They claim it will introduce hardware acceleration. Hopefully thats true and we'll never hear complaints about a laggy UI again!
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The reason why even iPhone 3G's can feel "smoother" than Android phones at most times: hardware acceleration.
Ever since the 2G they've had a dedicated GPU which was used to its fullest in basic UI interactions. We see phones like the SGS with freak GPUs but Android doesn't allow full use of them.
Phandroid made that article on a supposed "Gingerbread" leak. They claim it will introduce hardware acceleration. Hopefully thats true and we'll never hear complaints about a laggy UI again!
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Yup, most of the smoothness complaints is just hardware acceleration complaints. After gingerbread if it has hardware acceleration, we won't hear the laggy UI issue, we'll just hear the bandwagon "Fragmentation!"
I've finally got a smooth handset. I'm on latest cyanogen with intersect raven kernel overclocked to 1333. I'm very impressed and I'm finally enjoying this phone. Btw I'm using launcher pro to
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Hi guys,
My girlfriend has a 1 year old HTC Desire and its really pi**ing me off that it is faster than my brand new dual core O2X...
Her Desire is stock rom.... full of crap because she never deletes apps yet its still noticeably smooth and faster than my phone which regularly slows down / hangs...
How can 2 processors be faster than one? Is the LG software really that bad that they can make something that should be twice as fast, actually 5 times slower....
BTW I have had my O2X as stock and as MCR FR12... no difference, they are both SLLLOOOOWWWW (not knocking Paul or MCR one bit though, appreciate all the work he does...)
Simple answer? Yes
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My guess would be LG fail at software, I suspect it will be totally different with CM.
I have a Desire and can confirm that.
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gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
My girlfriend has a 1 year old HTC Desire and its really pi**ing me off that it is faster than my brand new dual core O2X...
Her Desire is stock rom.... full of crap because she never deletes apps yet its still noticeably smooth and faster than my phone which regularly slows down / hangs...
How can 2 processors be faster than one? Is the LG software really that bad that they can make something that should be twice as fast, actually 5 times slower....
BTW I have had my O2X as stock and as MCR FR12... no difference, they are both SLLLOOOOWWWW (not knocking Paul or MCR one bit though, appreciate all the work he does...)
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What exactly is faster? Sense vs. LG Home?
Internet browsing?
Games?
Sense on the desire series is lightning fast and smooth, HTC has been working a long time to tune it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but i read some parts of android are more optimized for the qualcomm processors (vs. any other cpu).
LG made some adjustments in the caching of apps to speed up boot times (and making the rest of the experience slower) , but paul's rom 'fixed' this.
I did a side by side comparison between the desire HD and the o2x and for now the dhd feels a lot more mature; untill you start up a game and I hope newer roms (actually read cyanogenmod here; in time don't think the first few nightlies will be much difference) can make this device as fast as it should be.
Installing another launcher like launcherpro or adw will help a lot, but will not magically fix lg's software flaws. Custom rom is the way to go
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Wait for the gingerbread update which should come within the next month - and lets hope LG made a better job building that rom
I consider the current froyo rom as only temporary - which is also why I still havent bothered with custom roms
Basically the roms now are all based on the poor rom from LG, and new roms needs to be made when the gingerbread update comes anyhow.
gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
My girlfriend has a 1 year old HTC Desire and its really pi**ing me off that it is faster than my brand new dual core O2X...
Her Desire is stock rom.... full of crap because she never deletes apps yet its still noticeably smooth and faster than my phone which regularly slows down / hangs...
How can 2 processors be faster than one? Is the LG software really that bad that they can make something that should be twice as fast, actually 5 times slower....
BTW I have had my O2X as stock and as MCR FR12... no difference, they are both SLLLOOOOWWWW (not knocking Paul or MCR one bit though, appreciate all the work he does...)
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Well then you have a problem on your O2X...
We had 2 * HTC Desires S (still one kept for the wife) and those are a lot slower lol in everything We compared both with the two O2X.
When I have to do something for my wife on the old HTC Desire S well it scares now the heck out of me lol that slow
Amazing one year back I found it fast
I have 2 HTC Desire also - and they arent faster than the O2x by any means - but the rom is smoother. It doesnt have the slowdowns and lags you experience with the O2x, for instanse when installing apps in the market application. But open the gallery or the video list and you will see how much faster the O2x is, or play a game etc.
The O2x definetely are alot faster than the Desire, but the rom just needs optimisation in a few areas
rQvsnaps said:
Installing another launcher like launcherpro or adw will help a lot, but will not magically fix lg's software flaws. Custom rom is the way to go
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Sorry forgot to mention I am already using Launcher Pro....
Not sure how people can say "the rom is smoother on Desire but it isn't faster"?!?!
Ok so the O2X might benchmark faster than the Desire, but who cares if the phone is unusable whilst installing something from the market... i'm talking "real world" here...
I came from HTC Desire too, and initially when I got the O2X, it was definitely not as smooth or fast as the Desire - especially when I ran it with GingerBread on the LauncherPro UI. Then I rooted the O2X and flashed MCR which improved things, but still felt laggy. Lately I have been using other custom ROMs (all based on MCR Fr12) and the latest versions are really very smooth and fast. Better than Desire?Not sure anymore; but I am definitely much happier with my O2X now with custom ROMs. I am now waiting for CM7 to come to O2X; that would really make the O2X show its true colors!
HTC desire is way slower than LG 2X by hardware
It is just that the newest HTC Sense for Desire is so much better than the LG stock roms.
So far all of the custom roms are based on the original LG rom, and even with the fix and optimization, it isn't getting us anywhere so far.
Im having this issue as well..
My incredible s is way faster for internet browsing...
Opening an app is fast on incredible s...
The screen display,games and videos that made me keep this 2x...
Still i wait for the next update and decide...
fantastic phone for sure..
gk141054 said:
Sorry forgot to mention I am already using Launcher Pro....
Not sure how people can say "the rom is smoother on Desire but it isn't faster"?!?!
Ok so the O2X might benchmark faster than the Desire, but who cares if the phone is unusable whilst installing something from the market... i'm talking "real world" here...
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Simple - theres only 2 places where the Desire are "faster" or smoother if you please. On the standard launcher swyping between the homescreens and when multitasking during app installation. These two issues tend to make people "beleive" the Desire is faster - its not, even if the launcher seems smoother when swyping.
The swyping is only an issue of the standard LG launcher - installing any other thirdparty launcher and swyping will be just as smooth/fast or even faster if you configure it to be under settings, than the Desire launcher.
The Multitasking lag during app installation is a bug on the LG, still not fixed - so this is still an issue. But its one single litle bug - this is hardly an issue to call the Desire faster overall and its not like you are constantly installing apps causing the phone to lag. Its a few seconds then you can move back to normal operation again.
But in any other operation of the phone the LG are much faster than the Desire, basically because the hardware is faster. Open a webpage and it loads faster, open the marked and the application listing loads alot faster, open the gallery and the thumbnails are updated much faster, swype between pictures are much smoother, open the video list and the thumbnails loads instantly, play a video is much smoother and allow much higher quality video, open any application and it loads faster, play any game and it plays smoother with better graphics (some of these games wont even be playable at all on the Desire), open any application that loads any type of content, like "pulse" and the content is loaded faster, Youtube loads and operates alot faster, videotrailer software etc. etc. etc.
In short the software on the LG are still a litle immature - propably because it was rushed by LG to be first on market with a dual core mobile. The HTC Desire's sense UI has been developed on for almost 2 years by HTC (before Desire on Legend for instance), so this is and feels less immature - it doesnt mean the Desire is faster.
My gf's Desire isn't as fast as my O2x, even with CM7 on it.
The hardware of the o2x is definitely faster, so it can only be the stock rom which subjective makes the mobile slower.
Keep in mind that LG focused to be the first company publishing a dual core mobile, mainly for PR.
The ROM probably played a minor role for the marketing guys ...
Hopefully they make it better with ginger bread. Otherwise, there's CM7 which will work for sure a lot better and smoother than the current stock-ROM
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It's just the UI that's faster on the Desire; the hardware itself is much slower, and outclassed even by same-generation devices (Nexus One, SGS). Any benchmarking tool will tell you that and show you in a nice little graph;
(don't mind me, I just love showing off my e-peen score )
unfnknblvbl said:
It's just the UI that's faster on the Desire; the hardware itself is much slower, and outclassed even by same-generation devices (Nexus One, SGS). Any benchmarking tool will tell you that and show you in a nice little graph;
(don't mind me, I just love showing off my e-peen score )
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Wow , thats what I call a big e-peen
My mate has a desire HD and had to do some surfing to get him to a webpage and I can tell you that it is sOOOOOooooooo much slower than my O2X (with stock rom,rooted with pauls patches.tweaks). It took a LOT longer to render webpages, Especially if they had flash on them than my O2X.
unfnknblvbl said:
It's just the UI that's faster on the Desire; the hardware itself is much slower, and outclassed even by same-generation devices (Nexus One, SGS). Any benchmarking tool will tell you that and show you in a nice little graph;
(don't mind me, I just love showing off my e-peen score )
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thing is, what do you use/want more: a snappy UI or more horse power in benchmarks? I might sounds like an apple fanboy now but I use the UI 99% more then a benchmark so for me the UI is more important. I'm back to my cm7 powered powerhouse that i call the desire HD for now; the lag in the UI is mostly part of that choice. Although I do agree that high demanding tasks like a 3D game are a lot smoother on an o2x
Since Project Butter was announced as groundbreaking for Android devices, it would be good to know what the community thinks about it as the official JB ROMs have launched.
Please provide your input as a casual user and your day-to-day experience, and also as a more techie user or a developer.
The intent is to provide Samsung, if they still lurk on XDA, feedback on how they can improve future development to make Android really smooth, even though the UI is not treated with priority, as it is on iOS.
As far as I am concerned, I didn't notice any difference from ICS to JB on a stock ROM; essentially, Project Butter doesn't exist for my device. The device still stutters where it did on ICS.
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As far as I am concerned, I didn't notice any difference from ICS to JB on a stock ROM; essentially, Project Butter doesn't exist for my device. The device still stutters where it did on ICS.
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I would agree with your assessment. I think that the stock JB is very stable, however there is no noticeable difference in speed compared with, say, LRQ.
When I press "contacts" or "phone" button, there is still a lag. My understanding of project butter (rightly or wrongly) was that these kind of lags are supposed to be almost eliminated.
Interestingly, when my wife's galaxy S was running slimbean 3.0, it was close to what I expected "project butter" to deliver. However I reverted her SGS back to ICS due to stability issues.
edit- I'm on LM5
edit 2 - Interesting that 90 people have viewed this thread so far, and nobody has disagreed with Incisivekeith's review. Perhaps we can conclude that "project butter" is not included in LSZ or LM5.
To my mind, Project Butter means an entirely GPU accelerated UI. That is what explain this "buttery" feeling when you drag down the notification bar, when you scroll in the browser, etc..
It is certainly activated in our JB roms, because if it was not the case, the rom would be much more laggier, and touch wiz would be the pain it has ever been since the Galaxy S.
However, I'm sure our PB is a far less efficient one than used in the nexii phones. You can easily tell, there are still some lag in the appearance of the notification bar (when opening an app, laoding something..), and the whole feeling is absolutely not like any Apple device (that I despise, of course ).
I have none of the technical skills to give a more detailed answer, but I remain amazed by the fact our devices are not free of any lag, in spite of their double core, big GPU, 1gb RAM etc...
To realize project butter you need a high speed camera. If you running heavily skinned OS has TW you will tend to see some lags. Remember Our note is almost year and half old....
Project Butter and How it Works
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To realize project butter you need a high speed camera. If you running heavily skinned OS has TW you will tend to see some lags. Remember Our note is almost year and half old....
Project Butter and How it Works
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Thanks for the link !
But we don't have the choice, i don't think any android AOSP/AOKP rom includes project butter, am I wrong ? These roms feel more laggy than any touchwiz rom, though they also feel lighter. And it's a shame (I blame samsung) because they are innovative and functionnal.
AW: Is Project Butter effective on the Galaxy Note?
As far as I understand, pb is not an acceleration for the hole system, but an acceleration for gui: no micro-lags in launcher, scrolling in Browser and apps. And it does really better, than ics for me. Just compare xda app on both systems and you'll understand what I mean
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crash-petard said:
Thanks for the link !
But we don't have the choice, i don't think any android AOSP/AOKP rom includes project butter, am I wrong ? These roms feel more laggy than any touchwiz rom, though they also feel lighter. And it's a shame (I blame samsung) because they are innovative and functionnal.
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I tend to disagree on the part which states that these AOSP/AOKP ROMs feel more laggy than TW ROMs. As of today, I run Asylum ROM 25/02 which includes major improvements concerning the overall UI experience. It is snappy and smooth. I do explicitly avoid the term "buttery smooth" as it is misleading.
They are not finished products, that's for sure-but being heavily developed. :thumbup:
Any TW ROM running 4.1.2 won't be "buttery smooth" neither, whereas the leaked 4.2.1 ROM for the S3 already showed improvement and thus where helpful to update the Mali blobs for CM10.1, which are successfully implemented. They do work nicely!
If permitted to ask: when did you last try out an AOSP/CM ROM?
Side note: if you blame Samsung, you're always right! I fully agree.
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I'd like to step in here, and this is entirely wrong: Project Butter was not included in jb for viewing in high speed cameras: it was mainly to reduce lag and stutteriness in Android to make the experience amazing for common, general public. Not for professional photographers.
Personally, when my one v is over clocked to 1.5 GHz and above ( and using a jelly bean ROM), the effect is mind blowing. I'd say the device comes near smooth as an iOS device, if not smoother. There are absolutely no lags and waits, and the device performs like a breeze.
Have you ever used a nexus device? That's the best implementation of a device blessed with project butter combined with the blessing of great developers of Google. I have not seen a nexus 4 lag ever. EVER.
Personally, I don't get what's it with galaxy note. I can't understand what's wrong with it to lag so much, I mean, sometimes it lags more than my one v which is a 1ghz single core processor ( I'm not talking about over clocking here).
I think only a professional dev can put light on this.
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AA1973 said:
I tend to disagree on the part which states that these AOSP/AOKP ROMs feel more laggy than TW ROMs. As of today, I run Asylum ROM 25/02 which includes major improvements concerning the overall UI experience. It is snappy and smooth. I do explicitly avoid the term "buttery smooth" as it is misleading.
They are not finished products, that's for sure-but being heavily developed. :thumbup:
Any TW ROM running 4.1.2 won't be "buttery smooth" neither, whereas the leaked 4.2.1 ROM already showed improvement and thus where helpful to update the Mali blobs for CM10.1, which are successfully implemented. They do work nicely!
If permitted to ask: when did you last try out an AOSP/CM ROM?
Side note: if you blame Samsung, you're always right! I fully agree.
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I totally agree with you, and the fact that an incredible amount of great work is put in AOSP roms remains undeniable. As I said, I blame Samsung, and my respect for developers is unbounded.
My last try was for beerbong's paranoid android v2.99, and I've tried almost any rom in the original dev section. Still, it's been a long time since I have tried, so i'll have a look ! Of course, there are other things that make me stick to stock, SPen integration mostly (looks like there is still no way to use palm rejection in CM roms).
Anyway, I'm glad to see JB leaks help CM developers, I thought the only workaround required kernel sources.
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I see I'm not the only one wondering what could prevent the note from being smooth...
For me, JB is very smooth. Don't forget, that our GNote has just that little Mali GPU which has to drive this huge 1280x800px (Macbooks of 2011 have this resolution ) screen. Based on that fact, JB is buttery smooth.
I suggest to set all animation times in the developer options of your phone to 0.5 (don't forget to reboot, to get the new speeds everywhere in the OS). It makes the Note feel much quicker and more responsive.
When you are there, also try "Force GPU rendering". Every app compiled with the 2.3 SDK has the GPU rendering flag set to off, this option forces it on. I haven't found any apps that don't like this setting and crash. Also, when you google for this, you won't find any apps neither that refuse to work.
I'm very happy with JB. It's smooth and the CPU doesn't have to render anything anymore. Nice!
As I'm thorough, I tried Asylum ROM, as advised. :silly: One thing immediately stroke me : the notification bar is not smooth. It just isn't, there's a discomfort that should not be as if it was still CPU run. And I don't think I'm picky, it's a raw feeling. The rest of the rom is, indeed, pretty snappy (the browser appear much much lighter), but I really need this element of my UI to be impeccable as it come to smoothness, just like the home screens transitions.
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For me, JB is very smooth. Don't forget, that our GNote has just that little Adreno GPU which has to drive this huge 1280x800px (Macbooks of 2011 have this resolution ) screen. Based on that fact, JB is buttery smooth.
I suggest to set all animation times in the developer options of your phone to 0.5 (don't forget to reboot, to get the new speeds everywhere in the OS). It makes the Note feel much quicker and more responsive.
When you are there, also try "Force GPU rendering". Every app compiled with the 2.3 SDK has the GPU rendering flag set to off, this option forces it on. I haven't found any apps that don't like this setting and crash. Also, when you google for this, you won't find any apps neither that refuse to work.
I'm very happy with JB. It's smooth and the CPU doesn't have to render anything anymore. Nice!
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I was not aware that the Note uses Adreno? I thought it was Mali
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As I'm thorough, I tried Asylum ROM, as advised. :silly: One thing immediately stroke me : the notification bar is not smooth. It just isn't, there's a discomfort that should not be as if it was still CPU run. And I don't think I'm picky, it's a raw feeling. The rest of the rom is, indeed, pretty snappy (the browser appear much much lighter), but I really need this element of my UI to be impeccable as it come to smoothness, just like the home screens transitions.
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+1 couldnt agree more.
Ive always had nit picks with my android devices (mainly samsung, some HTC's in the past) and have always experienced some sort of lag, with stock and custom ROMs.
But, correct me if im wrong, I believe this is down to the overlay put on by these companies, they cram the devices with ridiculous amounts of bloatware and eye candy and I feel that has an effect on the overall smoothness.
Ive yet to own a pure AOSP device (such as the nexus's) but i cant recall many people complaining about them.
But I prefer the looks of TW / Sense over AOSP (and ive tried lots of AOSP ROMs) so I accept that bit of lag for the overall look and functionality of things.
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I was not aware that the Note uses Adreno? I thought it was Mali
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Oops. I will change that. Nevertheless: That GPU just isn't the fastest anymore.
And that AOSP is faster, is just normal when you don't unbloat your phone. It's the same with every other Android phone out there. Also AOSP doesn't offer multiwindow, I bet many people aren't really aware of the technical difficulties this brings with it. And therefore this phone is very smooth.
Also try tinkering with the build.prop a little.
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec
persist.sys.use_dithering
persist.sys.use_16bpp_alpha
can help a lot with the "lag".
But I don't have any lag, so I'm not changing anything. Another thing to maybe consider: Do you have a corrupt install?
The point of this thread is to discuss whether Project Butter is effective on the Note or not, WITHOUT any modifications.
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It isn't since AFAIK Samsung doesn't release source code for Exynos.
If those on a TW JB ROM could download and install "Epic Citadel"(preferred via WiFi as it is a 150mb package) and play the demo. I bet it won't get beyond the 40fps in high quality..
I didn't advise to install Asylum and don't quite get the point of the notification bar. As long as Samsung fails to deliver "proper+sources" we won't get the real "butter" experience.
Apparently the leaked S3 ROM based on 4.2.1 went into a better direction as some Mali blobs could be used, but close to nothing from the 4.1.2 ROMs...
@incisivekeith It may be "project better", but not project butter.
All we need is the official source code and then everyone will be happy n_n
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soham_sss said:
I'd like to step in here, and this is entirely wrong: Project Butter was not included in jb for viewing in high speed cameras: it was mainly to reduce lag and stutteriness in Android to make the experience amazing for common, general public. Not for professional photographers.
Personally, when my one v is over clocked to 1.5 GHz and above ( and using a jelly bean ROM), the effect is mind blowing. I'd say the device comes near smooth as an iOS device, if not smoother. There are absolutely no lags and waits, and the device performs like a breeze.
Have you ever used a nexus device? That's the best implementation of a device blessed with project butter combined with the blessing of great developers of Google. I have not seen a nexus 4 lag ever. EVER.
Personally, I don't get what's it with galaxy note. I can't understand what's wrong with it to lag so much, I mean, sometimes it lags more than my one v which is a 1ghz single core processor ( I'm not talking about over clocking here).
I think only a professional dev can put light on this.
Sent from my One V
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First of all this is not one v thread or an iOS speed competition. Different devices get different sources to work with. So it doesnt mean that one v is superior. I am happy that at least cm team is giving us nice smooth, fast and daily ROM. TW is for noobs. I don't care about other devices or bull**** until I choose them personally. High speed camera was just for fun...
Cheers from Hell.... :sly:
once you remove bloatedstuff, like automated test, and about 30 others, own risk, reboot, flush cache/dalvik, you will notice considerable improvement, most of the time, but yeah it still stutters sometime.
damn endless tweaking, dont forget some to disable some triggers on boot fo apps you only need on demand.
all own risk buddies
I've noticed that alot of people report Bugs from it and battery drain issues so should I wait or go for it?
battery has never been better XD
Some people is correct. For me the battery is so much better than it was on v 20A, not sure how it compares to ICS tho, but definitely better than stock JB.
Overall I really love the stock ANDROID look and feel rather than a skin like Optimus UI or Touchwiz, don't get me wrong Optimus UI is pretty good and functional but I still like google's android look a lot better.
it's just a matter of preference.
Performance wise, its on par with the stock JB rom, cept maybe a bit more lag in the UI since it is an early version. Camera tho is a ton better and unlike LG, CM post updates every night, hence the rom name...Nightly.
I found no critical bugs when using the default kernel. Eternity project kernel gave me some issues. Gaming is slightly worse but as the ROM improves and eternity project completes his kernel its going to be great!
Sent from my rooted P880
You should flash !
Over the time, my stock HTC One has become laggy and bettery life has been pretty bad. (I am on stock 5.0.2)
I, now, am looking to root my One and want a stable, butter smooth and battery efficient Sense 7 ROM. I came across many Sense 7 ROMs in development section - InsertCoin, ViperOne, SDv6, Artmod and others. Can someone suggest which one is the best in terms of the parameters I am looking for?
Thanks
I can only recommend Insertcoin, as I haven't tried the others.
If you combine this with the elementalX kernel you can achieve a pretty nice battery life.
Install X-posed and greenify for an even better battery
From all the roms I have flashed, I have found Sense 7 roms offer the worst for battery life. Kitkat Sense 6 roms seem to be the best for performance and battery life, but then that's just my experience. Each to their own.
Best Battery Live ever
try
1) [ROM] Android Revolution HD 92.0 with
2) Elementrix Kernel
3) Greenefy and
4) Xposed and the MobleActiveRadioFix (to fix Lollipop Bug)
5) (optional) if you like, change launcher to launcher ex - sense is very battery intensiv
maritimesbob said:
From all the roms I have flashed, I have found Sense 7 roms offer the worst for battery life. Kitkat Sense 6 roms seem to be the best for performance and battery life, but then that's just my experience. Each to their own.
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what rom do you use ?